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professor if you were acting as the congressman's attorney what's the advice that you learn in law school what do you tell them to do or not do say or not say don't go on tucker carlson and say dumb stuff he went on tucker carlston and one of the things he said brian was that his family members were being asked about some kind of scheme about pay to play that doesn't sound like sex or prostitution that sounds like some other form of public corruption and often once the feds start looking at you they don't stop because they start finding other stuff so i would tell on mr gates he's making the right decision to lawyer up he needs to start to stop talking and to um again let his lawyers handle these extremely serious charges for what i would call mama's boy i could tell from the minute i met him and when he came back houston he seemed kind of like a shell of himself testimony today from george floyd's girlfriend courtney ross describing floyd's grief after losing his mother ross also described how they both struggled with opioid addiction we both suffered from chronic pain mine was in my neck and his was in his back we got addicted and and tried really hard to break that addiction many times derek smith one of the first paramedics responded to the scene testified that when he arrived three officers were on top of george floyd he was also asked about george floyd's condition i did not help you to pulse when you say palpate is that you didn't feel or detectable did not detect and what did his condition appear to be to you overall in late terms i thought he was dead as i mentioned the esteemed lawyer paul butler has agreed to stay with us to take some questions in this segment paul how strong a witness was george floyd's girlfriend and let me go ahead and mention this opioid addiction may have been a show stopper in a trial 30 years ago in 2021 i don't think it's possible to find an american family if not with a direct condition connection than a tangential connection to this scourge every american has dealt with at some point absolutely right brian so shelvin's defense is literally that he did not kill george floyd the claim is that floyd died of a drug overdose and his pre-existing medical conditions so the testimony of miss ross allowed the jury first to hear from the prosecution about floyd's struggle with addiction so when the defense makes a big deal about this it won't seem like a bad fact that the prosecution was hiding and as you know miss ross really put a human face on the opiate addiction struggle that she and mr floyd share with many americans and she also established that floyd had a high tolerance for drugs which prosecutors will use to rebut the defense theory that he overdosed um i want to play for you a supervising sergeant which is somewhat redundant testified today about the use of force let me play that exchange paul we'll talk about it on the other side sir based on your review of the body worn camera footage do you have an opinion as to when the restraint of mr floyd should have ended in this encounter yes what is it when mr floyd was no longer offering up any resistance to the officers they could have entered the restraint and that was after he was handcuffed and on the ground and no longer resistant correct how how paul how important was that that moment that exchange from today it was vital for the prosecution shaven's use of force after mr floyd was in handcuffs violated department policy ryan for two minutes after shelvin knew that floyd did not have a pulse he kept his knee on mr floyd's neck it will be hard for the defense to make the case that's reasonable force the supervisor also testified that chauvin didn't originally tell him that he had put his knee on floyd's neck and when he did admit it he didn't say how long so lawyers call that consciousness of guilt and finally he testified that officers are trained that it's dangerous to leave a suspect on his back or stomach for a long time it can cause what the sergeant called positional asphaxia that compromises breathing so prosecutors are going to use that testimony to advance their claim that sheldon's acts were the cause of floyd's death and also to demonstrate the recklessness that's required to convict chauvin of third degree murder and good evening once again day 72 of the biden administration and there is new bombshell reporting about florida republican congressman and trump acolyte matt gates this week the new york times broke the story that the justice department was investigating gates for sex trafficking involving a 17 year old girl well tonight the times is back on the board with a new report that quote a justice department investigation into representative gates and an indicted florida politician is focusing on their involvement with multiple women who were recruited online for sex and receive cash payments investigators believe joel greenberg the former tax collector in seminole county florida who was indicted last year on a federal sex trafficking charge and other crimes initially met the women through websites mr greenberg introduced the women to mr gates who also had sex with them mr gates denied ever paying a woman for sex katie benner you have no less a task of explaining this story especially this update to our viewers tonight do i read it correctly that the allegation is and someone has indeed seen the receipts that young women were paid via cash app and apple pay that's correct we've seen receipts of payments to two different women by congressman gates and his friend joel greenberg so what i believe what the men would say is that the payments would be something for other than sex the women would say that in fact the payments were for a second they had sexual relations with both men now how does this all come together this story started out the initial headline that people might have seen was an investigation into the congressman for allegations of sex trafficking the congressman countered with an elaborate story about his father wearing a wire an extortion attempt now you and mr schmidt come in tonight with this further detail about what may be the congressman's private life and where it might intertwine with ethics considerations if not the law so i think that we need to separate the extortion allegations from this investigation i think there's a possibility that two things can be true you can be both the victim of the crime and you can both be the subject of an investigation into a possible crime so putting aside the extortion for a moment which is a it's something that began only last month this is a months-long investigation it began under attorney general barron under the trump administration people were looking at joel greenberg for a variety of infractions and one of the things that investigators found is it was very likely that he had had sex with a 17 year old girl now when they executed the search warrant first possessions they also found evidence that showed that congressman gates was if not involved certainly aware and they continued to dig it led them to congressman gates it led them to information about these arrangements that had been initiated by mr greenberg on websites where he would reach out to women and meet them and then he would introduce them to the congressman as a part of those arrangements the two men would have sex with these women the women would get paid the women say that the payments were for sex they have spoken with the fbi about this about these encounters and one of the big issues when you look at legal liability is whether or not a congressman also slept with a woman excuse me with a girl who was 17 at the time uh professor over to you a couple of points everyone's innocent until proven guilty at the same time none of this looks good uh the congressman is one of the most bombastic members of the house of representatives the congressman is engaged to be married but to you the question becomes what is the legal jeopardy on how many fronts that he is facing soliciting sex workers is typically a state not a federal crime so if it's just that gates has on its own solicited people for sex in exchange for money that's not a crime that federal prosecutors would be interested in it's a case for the florida district attorney but as katie has reported gates has reportedly being investigated for violating federal sexual trafficking laws in a case involving a 17 year old that is a serious federal crime and there may be a separate investigation of someone who is allegedly trying to extort gates in his family to make the justice department investigation go away even if that's true brian it doesn't shield gates from criminal liability it can be the perpetrator of one crime and the victim of another but gates really has to be worried about this third investigation of joel greenberg that's the florida official and good friend of gates who's already been indicted for child sex trafficking and the reason for green burps uh is a problem for gates is because he's violated his bail so he's locked up in jail in florida pending his trial he's got a lot of incentive to cooperate in an investigation of gates the feds have already probably come calling to mr greenberg in his florida jail sale to see what he knows about gates and if he wants to make a deal ashley parker with thanks for your patience over to you while your beat is the white house and not the house you have been known to cover all of washington with ease so here's the question what will this mean for gates standing in the house at least short term what does it mean for house leadership kevin mccarthy and the party overall so geeks was someone who did not have a ton of allies in congress to begin with even among republicans he was as you pointed out a bombastic and a very vocal trump ally um so he did have allies and support in that sort of mega world but what you're seeing now is there's not that many people rushing to his defense uh there's very few people in fact proactively defending him you know this is someone when you mentioned leadership who flew to wyoming to participate in a rally against liz cheney because she had voted to impeach president trump and you saw mccarthy in an awkward situation where he basically said he was not going to strip gates of his committee assignments yet he's waiting to see what happens but he basically said the allegations were very troubling and if any of it proves to be true he absolutely gates absolutely would be stripped so it's not the sort of circling of the wagons and vociferous defense you want from members of your own party and this is at the beginning and it looks like at least according to katie and mike's fantastic reporting that it is going to get worse for gates not better and katie over to you other than people uh refreshing your byline on the new york times website what is supposed to happen next in this case according to your understanding of the investigation i think the investigators are going to continue to try to reach out to as many of the women involved as possible of course they're also going to look at other allegations including the fact that witnesses have told them that they used drugs when they would have these sexual encounters with men because that could also complicate legal questions for the congressman i do feel like it's fair though as part of this segment to read matt gates entire denial and fall he says his office says matt gates has never paid for sex matt gates refutes all the disgusting allegations completely matt gates has never ever been on any such websites whatsoever and matt gates cherishes the relationships in his past and looks forward to marrying the love of his life so i do want to say put in his full denial because he very very much adamantly pushes against these allegations we just know that these are things that the fbi has learned from witnesses

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Published: Fri Apr 02 2021