Watch Deadline: White House Highlights: July 12

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>> 4 IS THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT BEEN THESE UNIFIED AROUND A GOVERNING AGENDA. OBVIOUSLY, PRESIDENT TRUMP, OUR MOVEMENT MOVEMENT STANDARD-BEARER IS GOING TO MAKE THE DECISIONS ON WHAT THOSE POLICY PRIORITIES ARE, WHO THE PEOPLE ARE. HIS ADMINISTRATION. THIS PROJECT IS IN SERVICE TO HIM INTO FUTURE CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT. >> THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION'S NAME IS KEVIN ROBERTS AND THE SUPPORT PROJECT 2025 HAS FROM EVERYONE ON THE RIGHT. BUT ESPECIALLY DONALD TRUMP. WE'RE BACK WITH ISAAC MARK JOHN AND BY THE VINE FI. THIS IS SO INEXTRICABLY LINKED TO TRUMP, BUT WE I GUESS ALREADY KNOW HE STARTED TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM IT BECAUSE IT IS NOT POPULAR WITH A LOT OF VOTERS. >> READY. HE IS MADE THE CASE THAT HE DOESN'T KNOW WHO THE ORGANIZATION IS OR WHAT THE DOCUMENT SAYS. AND I DO NOT KNOW WHETHER DONALD TRUMP HAS READ THE 900 PAGES OR NOT, BUT WE KNOW THAT. OF COURSE, HE DOES KNOW THE KEY ARCHITECTS OF PROJECT 2025. HE SPOKE AT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION DINNER IN 2022. FOR SHADOWING THEIR WORK FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES. GOOD NUMBER OF THESE FOLKS COULD BE VERY MUCH AT THE HEART OF EVEN HIS ADMINISTRATION LIKE THIS LIKES OF STEPHEN MILLER WHO CONTINUES TO SERVE AS AN ADVISER TO HIM AS WELL AS PROJECT 2025. AT THE SAME TIME, DONALD TRUMP WOULD BE THE PRESIDENT AND STATES AND HE COULD USE WHATEVER HE WANTED OUT OF PROJECT 2025 OR AMERICA FIRST POLICY INSTITUTE, THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND OTHER POLICIES AND THEY'RE COMING UP WITH THAT GROUP. ALSO CONSISTS OF LOT OF FORMER ALLIES. BUT FOR EACH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, THEY UNDERSTAND THE DONALD TRUMP CAN VERY MUCH BE A TOOL FOR THEM TO ULTIMATELY EXECUTE ON THE POLICIES THAT THEY HAVE LONG SOUGHT TO HAVE BE IMPLEMENTED. AND SO FOR DONALD TRUMP, THERE'S AND SEPARATION. BUT I THINK THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING THROUGH THIS NEW REPORT HERE, IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT THE ORGANIZATIONS OF EVERY INTENTION, A BEING A AFFECTED IN 2025 IN A WAY THEY'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY WERE INEFFECTIVE IN 2017 2018 OUT OF THE GATE IN COMING UP WITH POLICIES AND EVEN PERSONNEL TO HOLY BE ABLE TO OPERATE THE ADMINISTRATION IN AN EFFICIENT WAY FOR 4 YEARS. >> TIME HOW MEN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, IT'S FASCINATING BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY BEING LED FROM CULTURAL ICONS AND CULTURAL FIGURES MORE THAN FROM POLITICAL ACTORS TRY TO BE HENSON MENTIONED 2025. THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST GOOGLED POLITICAL SEARCH TERMS IS A CASE. IT CASE MUST BE PROSECUTED. AND FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE OPPOSED TO EVERYTHING ON EVERY ONE OF THESE 900 PAGES. >> WELL, THAT'S FOR SURE. AND I I I RARELY EVER WANT TO TAKE EXCEPTION. I THINK BOB HILLIARD SAYS, BUT I WILL SAY THAT I WILL BET EVERY DOLLAR IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, NICOLE, THAT DONALD TRUMP DOES NOT READ 900 PAGES OF THIS REPORT. I DO NOT MEAN TO SAY THAT DONALD TRUMP IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH ITS AIMS OR DOES NOT ENDORSE IT OR THAT HIS PEOPLE HAVE NOT WORKED ON IT FOR THAT. IT'S NOT WAS DESIGNED TO ALLOW HIM TO CARRY OUT HIS VISION. BUT I WOULD BET AGAIN DOLLARS TO DOUGHNUTS THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS A RED 900 PAGES IN TOTAL OF HIS ENTIRE LIFE THAT THEY MIGHT NOT A BRIT 90 PAGES UNTIL IT IS ENTIRE LIFE. THAT SAID IT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THAT ON THE CULTURAL SIDE ON THE POLITICAL SIDE ON EVERY SIDE WHEN SOMEBODY LAYS OUT A VISION FOR GOVERNMENT, THAT'S THIS CLEAR. AND THIS DISTURBING IN THIS FAR OUTSIDE THE MAINSTREAM OF WHAT AMERICAN VOTERS WANT, IT'S IMPERATIVE ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE ON TEAM DEMOCRACY. AND AND I WOULD SAY MORE NEARLY IN THE CONTEXT OF PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN ON THE PART OF OF THE OF THE OF THE BIDEN REELECTION CAMPAIGN, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE, EVERY EVERY PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC AND PROGRESSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE MODERATE RESEARCH, NOT JUST THE PROGRESSIVE ONES TO TRY TO RAISE THE PROFILE OF WHAT IS IN THESE THESE DOCUMENTS AND PIN THEM TO THEIR OWNER. AND THAT OWNER, DESPITE I'M SURE NOT EVEN READ THAT ARE PAGES, THEIR OWNERS, DONALD TRUMP. AND I THINK IT'S IT'S ONE OF THE PARAMOUNT STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES FOR ALL OF THE ALLIED OPPONENTS OF THE TRUMP AGENDA TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE IN AMERICA ON ELECTION DAY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT PROJECT 2025 IS AND DOESN'T KNOW WHO IS PAPA IS. >> PAPA. I LOVE THAT. SOMEONE SAID PAPA AND THAT'S NOT EVEN 4.30, ON FRIDAY. WELL, I HAVE AN IDEA. IT'S DANGEROUS, RIGHT? WHEN YOU THINK IT'S SOMETHING I LIVE TV. BUT LET'S JUST DO THIS. MARC ELIAS, THERE'S A STORY IN THE NEW YORK TIMES SAYING THAT SOME DONORS HAVE POP I'S THEIR SIZABLE MULTIMILLION-DOLLAR DONATIONS. WHY NOT START AN APP FOR TO EDUCATE THE COUNTRY ABOUT PROJECT 2025 PARK THE MONEY? THEY'RE MEAN THAT IT DOESN'T. THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANY SORT OF ANYTHING ELSE ON THE OTHER SIDE AND IT IT FEELS LIKE WE HAVE FOR TRUMP SOMETHING WE DIDN'T HAVE AN 16 OR 20. WE HAVE DETAILED PLANS OF THE MONSTROUS POLICY AGENDA HE INTENDS. >> YEAH. I THINK WE NEED TO DIVIDE THAT POLICY AGENDA INTO 2 PIECES. THERE IS THE SUBSTANTIVE POLICIES WHICH HONESTLY I DON'T THINK DONALD TRUMP CARES ABOUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I SUSPECT HE'S NOT EVEN FAMILIAR OR IS HE MAY AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THEM AND THEN THERE ARE THE PROCESS POLICIES AND THAT'S WHERE DONALD TRUMP SAYS THE ACTION BECAUSE THE PROCESS PIECES ARE WHAT ALLOWS HIM TO EFFECTUATE THIS DESIRE TO BE A DICTATOR, NOT FOR TODAY, NOT FOR A WEEK TO BE AN AUTHORITARIAN RULER THAT HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS AND HE CAN RUN GOVERNMENT WITH HIS CRONIES IN CHARGE AND AND HAVE EVERYONE IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AT HIS BECK AND CALL AND HE WILL GO AFTER HIS ENEMIES. HE WILL SEEK VENGEANCE. HE WILL UNLEASH NOT JUST THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, BUT, YOU KNOW, TO CALL IT WILL BE THE IRS, YOU KNOW, THE DHS, YOU KNOW, BE PERMITTING. AND HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL GOVERNMENT TO BE AT HIS AS A TOOL OF HIS CORRUPT VISION OF AMERICA. AND SO SHOULD PEOPLE BE PUTTING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO EDUCATING THE POPULATION ABOUT PROJECT 2025? I'D SAY NO. THEY SHOULD BE PUTTING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO EDUCATING THE WOW AROUND 2025, THE FACT IS WE ARE FACING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS OF DEMOCRACY AND THERE IS NOT THE THE THE ORGANIZED, COORDINATED, WELL-FUNDED, SERIOUS EFFORT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE OTHER SIDE, YEAH, PLAYING A GAME OF PROPAGANDA. THEY ARE PLAYING FOR KEEPS AND THEIR IDEA OF PEEPS IS TO UNDERMINE DEMOCRACY FOR A GENERATIONAL. >> IF REELECTED, HE WILL BE A DICTATOR ON DAY ONE AND I QUOTE, TERMINATES THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. LET US BE VERY CLEAR. SOMEONE WHO SUGGEST WE SHOULD, QUOTE, TERMINATE OUR CONSTITUTION SHOULD NEVER AGAIN HAVE THE CHANCE TO STAND BEHIND. >> PROSECUTORS IN THE HOUSE AND NO ONE CAN DELIVER A READ ON A CRIMINAL LIKE AN X PROSECUTORS. THAT WAS VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS AT A CAMPAIGN STOP IN GREENSBORO, NORTH CAROLINA YESTERDAY HIGHLIGHTING THE FUNDAMENTAL THREAT POSED TO ALL AMERICANS. I SECOND TRUMP TERM. IT COMES AS ALLIES OF KAMALA HARRIS HAVE LAUNCHED AN EFFORT TO BOOST THE VICE PRESIDENT AND DEFEND HER AGAINST MORE VICIOUS ATTACKS. AND DONALD TRUMP AS UNCERTAINTY CONTINUES TO SWIRL AT SOME LEVELS IN SOME PARTS OF THE PARTY ABOUT WHETHER JOE BIDEN WILL REMAIN AT THE TOP OF THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET. TURNING OUR COVERAGE, NBC NEWS WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT AND A COLLEAGUE MICHELLE CENTER TO HOW THAT IS HERE. I MEAN, WE SHOULD BE IN KAMALA HARRIS. THIS IS THE POINT IN THE CALENDAR. WE SHOULD SAY WHERE THE VICE PRESIDENT TURNS UP THE HEAT ON THEIR ATTACKS ON AN INCUMBENT PRESIDENT IS RUNNING FOR REELECTION. THIS IS THE POINT WHERE MORE MEDIA START TRAVELING WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT. IT IS OFTEN THE VICE PRESIDENT'S JOB TO BE THE POLITICAL SURROGATE SO THAT A PRESIDENT CAN STILL PRESIDENT. AND BUT THIS YEAR IS ANYTHING BUT NORMAL. TELL ME WHAT IT HAS BEEN LIKE FOR HER ON THE TRAIL. >> WELL, SHE'S REALLY BEEN PUT IN THIS AWKWARD POSITION, BUT IT'S ALSO PROMINENT POSITION TO REALLY BE THE LEAD DEFENDER OF PRESIDENT BIDEN IN THIS MOMENT WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING WHETHER OR NOT HE SHOULD STAY IN THIS RACE. AND FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF WHAT WAS REALLY BEEN A SORT OF DISMAL FEW DAYS FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN, SHE WAS THERE SORT OF REALLY OUTLINING THE TALKING POINTS THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE USED NOW SINCE THAT DEBATE. SO IN THE MOMENTS AFTER THE DEBATE, I WAS TOLD BY A NUMBER OF SOURCES THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE TALKING POINTS. THERE WASN'T SORT OF A ROAD MAP FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH THE PRESIDENT'S WAR DEBATE PERFORMANCE AND SHE WENT ON AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, HE SHOULD BE JUDGED FOR THE LAST 90 SECONDS. HE SHOULD BE JUDGED FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS. AND IT'S THAT THESIS THAT YOU ARTICULATED AS A PROSECUTOR REALLY PROSECUTED THE CASE AGAIN, FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP POINTING OUT THAT YOU'VE GOT TO THE WIRE IN THE BIGGEST THREAT TO DEMOCRACY, THAT'S WHERE THE FOCUS SHOULD BE. THAT HAS BEEN FUNDING THAT THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF HAS REPEATED, BUT ALSO THAT SHE IS REPEATED FIELDS HAVE BEEN TRAVELING TO A NUMBER OF STATES ABOUT 6 STATES, INCLUDING TWICE TO NEVADA JUST IN THE LAST FEW WEEK HERE. AND SHE'S REALLY BEEN GOING OUT CALLING PEOPLE CALLING ELECTED OFFICIALS, CALLING DONORS, CALLING CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVISTS REALLY MAKING THE CASE OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SHOULD STILL REMAIN THE TOP OF THE TICKET. >> AND HE'S DOING THIS AS SHE'S STARTING TO GET MORE INTENSE SUPPORT FOR PEOPLE TO SAY, WOW, YOU KNOW, IF JOE BIDEN DOES STEP DOWN, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THAT YOU COME. BUT KAMALA HARRIS AND THEIR NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BLACK DEMOCRATS IN PARTICULAR. BUT I SAY DONORS THAT WAS ON THE PHONE WITH A BIG DONOR GROUP. THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WATCHING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BOTH DURING HER IN THIS MOMENT AND LOOKING AT RESEARCH AND DOING POLLS IN JUST THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF ON HER PARTICULAR TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT SHE IS FOCUSING AND HAS A SORT OF ABILITY TO MOBILIZE YOUNG VOTERS AND VOTERS OF COLOR IN PARTICULAR. BUT THE K HIVE IS GETTING STARTED, RIGHT? YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE SORT OF BUZZING ABOUT HER. BUT ALSO SHE'S STILL SAYING, LOOK, I WANT TO UNDERMINE THE PRESIDENT. I WANT TO BE LOYAL. IF YOU WANT THE STATE, I'M GOING TO STAY THERE WITH THEM. SO WHILE SHE'S BALANCING ALL OF THAT, IT'S BEEN SORT OF A REALLY I THINK WHILE A POINT OF POINT FOR HER. BUT IT'S ALSO BEEN A POINT WHERE SHE STEPPED UP AND REALLY SHOWN STRENGTH AND CONVINCES SOME SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY CRITICAL FOR REALLY QUESTIONING WHETHER IT ACTUALLY CAN BE THE PRESIDENT OR OR HE COULD BE EVEN IN TWENTY-TWENTY SOMEONE THE PARTY COULD LOOK TO. A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE QUIETED DOWN AND SAY, YEAH, WE SEE IN HER A STRENGTH THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE PRESIDENCY. >> YEAH. I MEAN, THE SHE IS VERY GOOD AT THIS. AND I I REMEMBER COVERING SOME OF HER EVENTS AND I REMEMBER THINKING SHE WAS GOOD AT IT FOR YEARS AGO AS WELL. BUT TRUMP HAS DONE SO MANY MORE TERRIBLE THINGS. HE'S NOW A CONVICTED FELON. AND SHE IS IT SOUNDS LIKE AN SOMEONE SAYS CRAFTING SOME OF THE ATTACKS AND THEY ARE LANDING. AND I THOUGHT I WATCHED THE EVENTS FROM THE SPEECHES TO THE ROPE LINE. THEY'RE CONNECTING AND WHATEVER HAPPENS. BUT EVER HAPPENS. WHATEVER HAPPENS IN THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, SHE IS DELIVERING THE KINDS OF ATTACKS AGAINST DONALD TRUMP THAT ARE NOT JUST HELPFUL BUT URGENTLY NEEDED. IF THERE IS ANY CHANCE THAT THE TICKET CLOSES THE NATTY ON GAP AND SOME OF THE BATTLEGROUNDS, WHAT IS WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR HOW TO DEPLOY HER? >> WHILE THE PLAN RIGHT NOW FOR HOW THE PLAYERS TO KEEP HAVING HER GO OUT INTO THE COUNTRY AND TALK TO VOTERS DIRECTLY HAVE THE THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN AS WELL AS PEOPLE WHO ARE SORT OF BOLSTERING IN SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY, MAKING SURE THAT SHE SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO HAVE PROTECTION FROM ALL OF THE INCOMING ATTACKS, THE INCREASING THE FACT THEY SHOULD SAY BY REPUBLICANS ARE REALLY STARTING TO PUT A TARGET ON HER BACK AS THEY SEE HER GET STRONGER. THE PLAN IS TO REALLY HELP PROTECT HER AND AND HELP REALLY EXPLAIN TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WHO SHE IS, HER BACKGROUND, HER HISTORY OF THE PROSECUTOR, HER HISTORY AS A TRAILBLAZER BECAUSE OF COURSE SHE'S SUCH AS THIS IS THE FIRST BLACK VICE PRESIDENT. BUT ALSO SHE WAS THE FIRST STATEWIDE BLACK ATTORNEY GENERAL IN CALIFORNIA TO LEAVE THE SECOND WOMAN FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT TO SERVE IN THE U.S. SAID IT. SO SHE REALLY HAVE A LOT OF BACKGROUND, A PROFILE THAT THIS CAMPAIGN REALLY WANTS EXPLAIN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THEN IT PROBABLY THAT SHE'S ALSO A RELATIONSHIP PERSON, SAYS SHE IS DEALING WITH THE INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS HERE WHEN DEMOCRATS ARE WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN GET BEHIND JOE BIDEN A LOT OF THOSE TIME. SHE'S CALLING HER FORMER COLLEAGUES BECAUSE HE SERVED IN CONGRESS TO SAY, HEY, HE WE SHOULD STICK WITH HIM. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE SAYING MAYBE I SHOULD STEP IN, BUT I'M SOMEONE WAS GOING TO RIDE WITH THE PRESIDENT HERE. SO SHE'S REALLY SOMETHING I THINK THE DEW POINT, BOTH FOR THE FOR VOTERS, BUT ALSO FOR FOR DONORS AND FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE OPENLY QUESTIONING BECAUSE HE'S ALSO DONE A NUMBER OF FUNDRAISERS IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS HERE. BUT I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING IS YOU TALK ABOUT SORT OF THE MESSAGING HERE. I READ A STORY ABOUT HER JUST A FEW DAYS AFTER THE DEBATE AND SHE WAS IN EITHER AT A CAMPAIGN RALLY IN. SHE SAID THE ONE THING THAT'S TRUE BEFORE THE DEBATE AFTER THE DEBATE IS OUR VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS'S WORDS. SHE SAID DONALD TRUMP IS STILL A LIAR. SO THAT MESSAGING THEN REALLY GOING AFTER DONALD TRUMP. SHE SAID HE IS STILL A LIAR, SOMETHING FOCUS ON HIM AND IT SORT OF UNDERSCORES WHERE HER FOCUS IS IN HER MESSAGING. IT'S HERE. >> THE GENTLEMAN, AN INCUMBENT PRESIDENT ALWAYS HAS A HARD TIME THAT RUNNING FOR REELECTION AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. IT'S IT IS A CHOICE, RIGHT? IT HAS TO BE A REFERENDUM ON THE INADEQUACY OF THE ALTERNATIVE. SHE IS EXECUTING THAT AS THOUGH THAT IS SORT OF HER POLITICAL THEORY OF THE CASE. >> YEAH, I WELL, YES OUT. I DO. I THINK OF THAT ALWAYS IS THE OPPOSITE WAY. BECAUSE LIKE YOU YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT FROM BEING A REFERENDUM ON YOU AND YOUR PERFORMANCE UP OR DOWN. VOTE TO MAKE YOU. YEAH, YEAH. HE'S IN THIS CASE. YOU'RE TRYING TO SORT OF TURN INTO A REFERENDUM ON DONALD TRUMP. AND YES, I MEAN, LOOK, THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE, SHE SHE YOU, I KNOW YOU AND I WATCH DRIVE. I NOTICE INSIDE WHAT A NIGHT IN SAN FRANCISCO AND IN THE LATE 1990'S WHEN SHE WAS ON THE RISE THERE AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IMPRESSED AND OF A SHOW, IS THAT A HUGE FUTURE? SHE'S SHE'S OBVIOUSLY IT, YOU KNOW, NAVIGATED SOME THE DIFFICULTIES THAT EVERY VICE PRESIDENT OF IT EVERY ADMINISTRATION EVER COVERED. IT, FRANKLY, ALWAYS HAS NAVIGATED. SHE'S COME THROUGH ON THE OTHER SIDE AS A HAS REALLY GROWN INTO THE INTO THE INTO THE OFFICE. SHE'S AND SHE'S OBVIOUSLY THAT HELPED IRONICALLY BY THE FACT THAT THE COUNTRY WAS HURT BY DOGGED FIGHT BY FIGHT, MAKING THAT CATCH YOU IN DEMOCRATIC POLITICS. SHE HAD SHE WAS A SMART MOVE FOR FOR JOE BIDEN WAS TO ASSIGN HER THAT ISSUE. SO IT'S GIVEN HER A HUGE AMOUNT OF VISIBILITY. IT'S GETTING VERY HUGE AMOUNT OF PROFILE THAT THAT VICE PRESIDENTS NORMALLY DON'T GET. AND SHE'S RISEN TO THAT. AND AND WHEN PEOPLE THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO SAY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW AROUND THE WAY PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT, OKAY, BIDEN WERE TO STEP ASIDE, WHO WOULD BE A SUCCESSOR? THERE'S THESE QUESTIONS AROUND, YOU KNOW, DOES SHE DESERVE IT JUST BECAUSE SHE'S HIS VICE PRESIDENT? SURE, THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THERE. BUT IF YOU PUT THAT ASIDE AND JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT ASSETS SHE BRINGS HAS THE SAME ASSETS AS A VICE PRESIDENT IN THIS CASE, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, HE WILL BE THE SAME ASSETS IF SHE WOULD HAVE TO REPLACE JOE BIDEN, WHICH IS TO SAY ALL OF THOSE OTHER VERY TALENTED DEMOCRATS WE TALKED ABOUT, NONE OF THEM COME WITH SOMETHING IS CLEAR AS THE FRAMING THAT SHE BRINGS IN TO EITHER OFFICE. HE EITHER POSITION ON THE TICKET WHICH IS YEAH, I'M A PROSECUTOR. SHE'S A PROSECUTOR. HE'S A CRIMINAL. YOU CAN LOVE GRETCHEN WHITMER. YOU CAN LOVE STEVE BESHEAR. YOU CAN LOVE. GAVIN NEWSOM CAN LOVE ALL OF THEM. BUT IF YOU HAD TO REPLACE JOE BIDEN THE TOP OF THE TICKET, YOU WOULD NEED TO MOVE FAST. AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WOULD NOT HAVE FOR ANY OF THEM WOULD BE THE KIND OF CLEAR FRAME THAT YOU HAVE WITH HER PROSECUTOR CRIMINAL AND SHE COULD FILL THAT ROLE IN A HEARTBEAT. >> IT IS A CLAIM THAT IS BREATHTAKING IN BOTH ITS AUDACITY AND ITS DANGER FROM SOME OF THE VERY SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP DONALD TRUMP TEAR DOWN THE VERY PILLARS OF OUR DEMOCRACY. SHOULD HE PREVAIL IN NOVEMBER? >> RETURN TO THE WHITE HOUSE ALLIES OF THE EX PRESIDENT, MANY AFFILIATED WITH THE RIGHT WING HERITAGE FOUNDATION ARE NOW CLAIMING THAT THE CANDIDATE WHO WILL DISRUPT THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER WILL BE THE REPEAT OFFENDER DONALD TRUMP. NO, AND THEY'RE TELLING AND THEIR DELUSIONS AND WHAT AMOUNTS TO AN EPIC CASE, A PROJECTION. THEY'RE ACCUSING THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN OF DOING SO STUNNING NEW REPORTING FROM THE WASHINGTON POST AND A DISCUSSION OF SUPPOSE AND THREATS TO THE 2024 ELECTION. TRUMP ALLIES REVEALS THIS QUOTE, THE PRESENTATION DELIVERED AT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION'S WASHINGTON HEADQUARTERS STATED AS A GIVEN THAT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WAS ALREADY ENGAGED IN A SWEEPING CONSPIRACY TO USE MULTIPLE FORMS OF FEDERAL POWER TO INFLUENCE THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. IT DID NOT SUPPLY ANY EVIDENCE, QUOTE AS THINGS STAND RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A 0% CHANCE OF A FREE AND FAIR ELECTION. THAT WAS MIKE HOWELL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HERITAGE IS OVERSIGHT PROJECT. QUOTE, I'M FORMALLY ACCUSING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION OF CREATING THE CONDITIONS THAT MOST REASONABLE POLICY MAKERS AND OFFICIALS CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIOUS CERTIFY AN ELECTION. ONLY ONE CANDIDATE AND HIS SUPPORTERS HAVE DONE THAT HAVE REFUSED TO SAY IF THEY WILL ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THE 2024 ELECTION AND IT IS NOT PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN OR ANY DEMOCRAT. >> I WITHDRAW. THE QUESTION WAS WILL YOU ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION? REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS? YES OR NO, PLEASE. IF IT'S A FAIR AND LEGAL AND GOOD ELECTION, ABSOLUTELY. WILL YOU ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THE 2024 ELECTION? NO MATTER WHO WINS? YEAH, ALEX HAVE BEEN BUT I THINK YOU KNOW THE THERE'S NO MASSIVE CHEATING. SENATOR. WILL YOU COMMIT TO ACCEPTING THE ELECTION RESULT OF 2024? BOTTOM LINE AT THE END OF THE DAY. >> THE 47TH PRESIDENT UNITED STATES MOVIE FAST AND ALSO EXCITED TO GET BACK TO LOW INFLATION. >> LOW UNEMPLOYMENT A WAY TO HONOR YES OR NO. YES OR NO. WILL YOU ACCEPT THE ELECTION RESULT OF 2024, NO MATTER WHO WINS. >> THAT IS MY STATEMENT. WILL YOU COMMIT TO ACCEPTING THE RESULTS OF THIS YEAR'S ELECTION? BUT AND I TOTALLY PLAN TO ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF 2024, I THINK THE DONALD TRUMP WITH A VICTORY IF IT'S A FREE AND FAIR ELECTION, DANA. >> I THINK EVERY REPUBLICAN WILL ENTHUSIASTICALLY ACCEPT THE RESULTS ON ABOUT HOW THE CITY FOR ABOUT 2024, WE WILL SEE IF THIS IS A LEGAL AND VALID ELECTION. >> STOP RIGHT HERE FOR A SECOND. A LIFELONG REPUBLICAN CHRIS KREBS DESCRIBE THE TWENTY-TWENTY ELECTION AS THE QUOTE MOST SECURE IN AMERICA'S HISTORY. BILL BARR, BILL BARR SAID THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF FRAUD. SO IT TO THINK OF THIS DELUSIONAL AND DESPERATE BEEN VERY STRATEGIC ATTEMPT TO SOMEHOW RHETORICALLY TURN THE TABLES ON THE DEMOCRATS TO DEPICT THEM AS A REAL THREAT TO DEMOCRACY AS PART OF BIG LIE. 2 POINT. AND IT'S THE FIRST ITERATION OF THE BIG LIE WAS USED TO JUSTIFY EVERYTHING FROM BASELESS LAWSUITS TO THE DEADLY VIOLENCE THAT WE SAW ON JANUARY 6. THIS NEW VERSION IS NO DIFFERENT BUT PERHAPS MORE DANGEROUS. WASHINGTON POST REPORTS THAT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION STAFFER SAID THIS, QUOTE, THE EXERCISE WOULD LEAD HERITAGE TO FILE MORE LITIGATION OVER ELECTION PROCEDURES. HE ALSO SAID IT SHOULD HELP THE PUBLIC RESIST, QUOTE, PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS. HE CLAIM ARE BEING USED IN 2020 AND ARE BEING USED AGAIN. HE DIDN'T SAY WHO SUPPOSEDLY RAN THE OPERATIONS. QUOTE, THE UPSHOT IS THAT WE WILL SEE A CONTESTED ELECTION, THE LIKES OF WHICH WE'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH A PROFESSOR WHO HELPED LEAD THE SIMULATION. QUOTE, IF WE SEE THE KIND OF MANIPULATIONS WE SAW IN 2020, I WONDER IF AVERAGE AMERICANS WHO ARE SUPPORTERS, DONALD TRUMP WILL SWALLOW THAT SO EASILY AS THEY DID IN 2020. THE IDEA THAT TRUMP SUPPORTERS SWALLOWED ANYTHING OR TOOK THE 2020 ELECTION RESULTS FOR WHAT THEY WERE LYING DOWN IS ABSURD. WE ALL SAW WHAT THEY DID. WE ALL SAW WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY SEX. A MOB OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS SENT BY DONALD TRUMP STORMED THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL, INJURED, MAIMED AND LED TO THE DEATHS OF POLICE. OFFICERS CAME INCREDIBLY CLOSE TO HARMING VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE AND HIS FAMILY AS TRUMP SUPPORTERS AND MEMBERS OF THE MOB CALLED FOR HIM TO BE HANGED ON SITE. IN RESPONSE TO THIS SO-CALLED WAR GAME PRESENTED AT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION, THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN RESPONDED THIS WAY. QUOTE, THIS DOCUMENT IS NOTHING MORE THAN AN ATTEMPT TO JUSTIFY THEIR EFFORTS TO SUPPRESS THE VOTE TO UNDERMINE THE ELECTION. AND ULTIMATELY ANOTHER JANUARY SEX ATTEMPTS TO SOW DOUBT ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE 2024 ELECTION MONTHS AHEAD OF ELECTION DAY BY TRUMP'S ALLIES GAINING STEAM IS WHERE WE BEGIN TODAY WITH SOME OF OUR MOST TRUSTED OUR PARTNERS AND FRIENDS. NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER FOR THE WASHINGTON POST. ISAAC ONSTAR IS PACKAGED BY LINE ON THAT REPORTING IN THE WASHINGTON POST. WE LEAD WITH HELLO TO SOMEONE'S DOG. ALSO JOINING US VOTING RIGHTS ATTORNEY, FOUNDER OF THE SITE A MOCK RECEIVED CUT. MARK ELIAS IS BACK. CHIEF POLITICAL COLUMNIST AND HOST OF THE PODCAST IN POLITIC FOR POC MSNBC NATIONAL AFFAIRS ANALYST ON HOW THIS HERE FOR THE HOUR, MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, NBC NEWS CORRESPONDENT BOB HILLIARD IS HERE. ISAAC, SINCE THIS IS YOUR REPORTING THAT INSPIRED THE WAY WE ARE STARTING TODAY. TAKE ME THROUGH WHAT YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE REPORTING. >> OH, YEAH, IT WAS ALL A LITTLE BIT OF A WEIRD THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. DIDN'T TONY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT WITH THIS TRANSITION INTEGRITY PROJECT WHICH WAS THEY DESCRIBED AS LIKE A SIMULATION LIKE A ROLE PLAYING GAME WHEN THEY HAD DIFFERENT PEOPLE ASSIGNED TO DIFFERENT PARTS TO TO TRY TO GAIN BACK OUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE ELECTION. BOTH PART OF WHAT WAS SO STUNNING ABOUT IT WAS THEY REACHED THIS CONCLUSION. THEY REACH 2 FROM THAT WAS THAT THE SITTING PRESIDENT AS THEY DESCRIBE THEIR FINDING, THE SITTING PRESIDENT IS THE BIGGEST DANGER TO THE PEACEFUL TRANSITION OF POWER. BUT THAT WAS AS IF TRUMP'S EFFORTS TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION HAD NEVER HAPPENED. AND INSTEAD THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ACT AS A GIVEN THAT IT WAS ALREADY THE CASE. NEVER MIND WHAT THEY WERE PREDICTING ARE IMAGINING. BUT ALREADY THE CASE THAT SOMEHOW THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WAS ENGAGED AND USING THE SMALL BUSINESS ASSOCIATION AND THE BORDER PATROL AND ALL THE LEVERS OF FEDERAL POWER, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SOMEHOW TO TO INFLUENCE THE UPCOMING ELECTION. ALTHOUGH THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THE THE EVIDENCE THAT THEY PROVIDED FOR THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS THAT THEY HAD SENT A CAMERA CREW TO A HOUSING COMPLEX IN THE CITY, THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA. AND WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE THERE IF THEY WERE SAYS IT IS AND IF THEY REGISTER TO VOTE AND THEY SAID THAT SOME NUMBER OF PEOPLE SAID YES, BUT THEY NEVER FOLLOWED UP TO ACTUALLY SEE IF THOSE WERE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY REGISTERED TO VOTE. AND AND THEY WERE PRESENTING THAT AS AS PROOF OF FRAUD. >> YOU KNOW, JUST HOW MANY THERE SOMETHING SO INSANE ABOUT THIS THAT THAT THAT WE SOMETIMES BRESCIA THE SITE, WE DECIDED TO LEAVE WITH IT BECAUSE THEY DO WANT TO SHAVE OFF THE INSANITY IF YOU KNOW, I'M HEADING HERE. SO THIS IS FROM THE POST'S REPORTING. BARBER STARTS AND KIDNAPPED BY HAMAS AND TEACH A BLACK LIVES MATTER. BLACK LIVES MATTER. PROTESTERS TAKING OVER MIGRANT DETENTION FACILITY. THE FBI ARRESTING DONALD TRUMP 2 DAYS AFTER WINNING THE ELECTION. THESE ARE AMONG THE FARFETCHED SCENARIOS IMAGINED BY A SIMULATION OF THREATS TO THE 2024 ELECTION SHOWCASED ON THURSDAY BY THE RIGHT WING HERITAGE FOUNDATION AND THE 2024 PROJECT AT HERITAGE, PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS PLAYED BY FORMER SENATOR ROBERT TOURIST TO OUR SALLY. THOSE WAR GAMES INCLUDED CONTEMPLATING SURPRISE EMERGENCIES SUCH AS THE BARBRA STREISAND KIDNAPPING. WE HAVE SPENDS 9 YEARS, I THINK MAYBE LOOKING AWAY FROM SOME OF THE MOST INSANE THINGS THAT ARE PLANNED. >> AND THIS IS A PLAN THAT'S ON PAPER. THIS IS A GROUP THAT IS INEXTRICABLY LINKED WITH FORMER TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE LIST TO BE FUTURE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL. SHOULD HE PREVAIL? TRUMP IS AHEAD IN MOST OF THE BATTLEGROUNDS AND I THOUGHT TODAY WAS A COULD DAY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR REGAIN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. >> WHY ONE WHAT? YOU KNOW, NICOLE, THAT I'M IN MY WEEKEND WAR GAME EXERCISE THAT I DO OVER HERE AT MY PLACE. YOU SOMETIMES HAVE COME UNDONE THAT WE'RE DECIDING BETWEEN A BODY SNATCHER THING AND A MARTIAN INVASION THING THIS WEEKEND. SO IF YOU HAVE A POINT OF VIEW ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO AND I MEAN, >> YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THIS THIS GETS BACK TO A THEME THAT WE HAVE RETURNED TO OF LATE, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT 2025 KIND OF EXPOSURE THAT IT'S BEEN GETTING NOT GETTING AS MUCH ATTENTION TO SOME OTHER STORIES RECENTLY. BUT THE FACT THAT THE KIND OF CATS OUT OF THE BAG, YOU KNOW, AND I DO THINK THAT IT SPEAKS TO A LOT OF THINGS HERE. IT SPEAKS TO IT SPEAKS TO THE WAY IN WHICH THEY PREFER SPEAKS TO THAT WHOLE CAPTURE OF OF ALL OF THESE, NOT JUST OF THE OF THE OF THE MAGA MOVEMENT THAT THE TOTAL CASH REPUBLICAN PARTY AND ALL OF THE ASSOCIATED ANCILLARY, EXTRA CAMPAIGN AND POLITICAL ORGANIZATIONS. THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION ONCE UPON A TIME WAS A MAINSTREAM CONSERVATIVE ORGANIZATION, WASHINGTON, D.C., NOW THEY ARE NOT JUST THE MAG ORGANIZATION, BUT THEY ARE DOING WAR GAMES OF THIS KIND. I THINK MORE URGENTLY AND MAYBE NOT WARD, LET'S SAY, BUT AT LEAST PARTIALLY TO TO CONTINUE TO CURRY FAVOR WITH DONALD TRUMP. YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THESE ARE LIKE SO MUCH OF THE STUFF IS PERFORMATIVE AND ITS PERFORMANCE OF THESE ARE ARE NEW KINDS OF WHICH WAS BIZARRE RITUALS THAT ARE ENACTED BY PREVIOUSLY RESPECTABLE INSTITUTIONS. ORDER TO CURRY FAVOR WITH WITH WITH THE CULT LEADER WITH THE DEAR LEADER WITH DONALD TRUMP. YOU DO THESE THINGS IN ORDER TO GET HIS GOOD GRACES AND MAINTAIN YOUR CREDIBILITY. I SURE I'M SURE THEY'VE HAD THAT HAVE HAD THIS PLANNED FOR A VERY LONG TIME. BUT AS TRUMP DISTANCES HIMSELF, AT LEAST PUBLICLY FROM SOME OF THEIR WORK, I BET THEY'RE REALLY HAPPY TO BE DOING THIS. NOW, THERE'S KIND OF OFF THERE'S A QUALITY OF THIS WAY. YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH TRUMP. WE'VE GOT TO KEEP CURRYING FAVOR WITH HIM. AND CERTAINLY AS WE WERE TALKING LAST TIME I WAS ON THE SHOW, YOU KNOW, I EVERY ELEMENT OF THIS MATCHES UP TO THE DESCRIPTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT DAY WHERE WHERE I I GET A RECALL OF ATLANTIC WRITER, I'M SURE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, THE 20 THAT THAT THAT THAT JANUARY 6 INSURRECTION WAS A DRESS REHEARSAL. THIS IS LITERALLY A DRESS REHEARSAL. ONLY IT'S KIND OF A COSPLAY DRESS REHEARSAL. IT'S KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, LIKE ME OR THEY SOUGHT WEEKEND KIND OF CRAZINESS. BUT IT'S STILL A DRESS REHEARSAL. WE STILL HAVE TO TAKE IT REAL SERIOUSLY.
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Channel: MSNBC
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Length: 27min 32sec (1652 seconds)
Published: Sat Jul 13 2024
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