Veterans And Peace Activists Seek To Find Common Ground | Middle Ground

Kids... killed kids. It's not fun, and so desensitizes what we have to do because that is our job. It's a job. >> Against that wall, with the 'X' on it, can I have all my veterans? The other wall, on this side, I'm gonna have all my peace activists. >> The military brainwashes its soldiers. >> Veteran: (quietly) How? >> Oh, wow. Um, I don't think the natural inclination for a human being is to want to kill another human being. There is a necessary requirement in the military to get you to perform a certain action. And in order for that action to occur, it is my theory, that there is a part of changing the way that you think, in order to take somebody from a human being and make it a target so that you can achieve a goal. They had asked are the military Desensitizing soldiers are they Manipulating them mentally and I would have walked over. I would have Brainwashed we chose it. Well. I don't know man It's just like I even watch like the advertisements for the military And it just seems to me the one thing you brought up was was killing It's no no one wants to do. I know. I don't want to do. I know I didn't want to flips you yes He was use the words desensitized. We're desensitizes and so because we have to we have to move on I just think that that's kind of my point though in order to get from that spot where you don't want to kill another human Being to where you look at it as this is just my job, but it's a choice. Yeah, it's not brainwashed It really just comes down to either that guy at the end of your muzzle Or you and I want to come back home to my family Okay Yeah, this is a tough one I think that there's a point between a just war and An unjust war there are certain wars that? You know, maybe we should have gone into it like maybe we shouldn't have gone into Iraq Right and then there's certain wars where World War two You know where Hitler was Advancing to pull in I think that's definitely a just war to get into I mean he was trying to kill Jewish people yeah And in that case you could call it a necessary evil There is a time that that necessary evil has to happen and in that you don't even maybe call it a necessary evil It's just a necessity the action itself has to take place As long as we leave this on the table at war is a necessary evil it really just excuses almost all You know all wars because if it's six - what's excusable right when does it become necessary? If you really want to see a peaceful world you have to just get rid of that because the key word there is it necessary Necessary I don't believe that I don't believe it's necessary that it's the only way for to you to obtain your objective is war Do you I thought you were disagreeing with the evil no no no, I mean well. Yeah war is not evil I mean not yeah, it's not Have you ever had an argument, but you had good intentions? Right so yeah to speak on the word evil. I don't really agree that war equals evil as well Probable maybe not possible Yes, yeah When you get humans together and find a way to find common ground to find the similarities rather than the differences That's when you have a possibility At peace and I believe that it is something that is possible on a grand scale is it easy Maybe not but it is possible World peace I want that to happen of course But it's so much easier said than done I think because just the way that we were taught you know we all want world peace But let's say a culture in Africa thinks that genital mutilation is perfectly fine Are we going to be perfectly fine with that are we going to be able to talk them out of it? I don't really think we are because they have their own customs their own cultures So the only way we can kind of get them to accept our culture. Is there is some sort of violence That's dangerous. I do believe that the Quantum of people that would prefer peace to conflict is growing and that's what gives me hope So if it meant if I died the world would be at peace oh Yeah Look I've I've had some amazing adventures on planet earth I've had the greatest of friends the greatest of family seen the best concerts seen some beautiful places if it meant that That happened for this place to be a-ok groovy do it right now. I had a good run I got 35 years with more than a lot I've got more than twice yeah, those ears But more importantly I have two grandchildren and a third one on the way, yeah and and really I had to think about it, but if I could do that and bring them world peace let alone all the Lexi's and Charlie's around the world that's easy and like life is so beautiful, but for me I believe there is a life after my life, and there are many lifetimes. Yeah, if I had to die for world peace me versus 7 billion human beings Question I initially when I heard the question. I thought man What a dumb question and then Steve your answer actually really made me think yeah Well actually elicited like a really beautiful response. Are you talking about your grandchildren you know and then I'm Like I'll think a little bit more about this question And I realized you know what if I say I'm willing to die for peace. Oh gosh. What's the last time? I did anything to actually promote peace. Oh, I'd be a claw I'd be a really full of shit if I said that I would be willing to die for peace I wouldn't be able. Do you even take the most basic steps towards actually contributing something, but those basic those basic steps totally matter But also living a life of purpose is a life That's lived a moment to moment to moment so simply you by being you you affect people like yeah you seem I only met you for what half an hour 45 minutes You got a good head on your shoulders and wherever you go you leave an imprint And that's true for all of us. I mean don't get me wrong. I don't want to die, and I'd rather do those things I I'm in a I'm in a peace group that has met every Friday morning since 9/11 16 years for two hours every Friday to work on these issues So I think really if we I sometimes say a dollar a day and an hour a day Yeah, I know a lot of I mean not like tons of people was you know dozen or so people with that my closest friend To kill was killed was his name is Chris domain and he had a wife and kids it was is Pretty sad I've deployed seven times now, and I'm scheduled to go back out in March For my eighth back to Afghanistan, but uh I think there was probably one or two deployments where we didn't Lose someone. I don't know if it's appropriate what taps into your Courage to keep going back in the face of losing these guys. Yeah, it's a For me. It's not only just a job when I say job. I think of family I think of putting food on the table roof over the head of my family and then Second to that or pretty much tied for first is the guys next to you you know Which eyes go out here in LA and really? They have a future in college or anything just we've got poor and homeless at some points But uh join the military I want to serve my country and really just have some stable and has it evolved It was now's like this big family. You're part of you're part of something that's bigger, and I don't mind deploying because I know I'm with family I Think I'm blessed that I don't know anybody who's died in combat so I mean yeah I don't understand what you guys have been through but I applaud you all of you guys for Like you said putting food on the table cuz in my head. I was like. There's so many jobs out there. Why this one When you're when you're a soldier, you're you're making a sacrifice, so thank you You're welcome Yeah, you know I mean I think and I think as Americans we appreciate anybody who makes a significant sacrifice Its kind of the ultimate sacrifice So Thank you for checking out that video much appreciation We get to do what we love because you all watch our videos So if you really love us you'll continue to keep watching videos There's more right here that you can check out you probably haven't seen all of them And if you really want to just commit to us you can subscribe right here. I'll be around I'll be at the end of some more videos, and I will keep in touch peace You

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Published: Sun Dec 10 2017