DONE. MAY GOD STRIKE THEM DEAD. WE WILL ON NOVEMBER 5th, AND THEY WILL PAY. I AM BACK WITH MY PANEL. CATHERINE CHRISTIAN, MOLLY JONG- FAST, AND JEREMY. JEREMY, I AM GOING TO GO TO YOU FIRST. LET US TAKE A LISTEN. >> VERY INVOLVED. HE IS A SMART GUY. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING. HE JOKINGLY SAID TO US A LOT THAT HE WANTED TO BE THE LITIGATOR. HE WANTED TO BE THE ONE ACTUALLY ARGUING BECAUSE HE IS A SMART GUY AND KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING. WE MADE EVERY DECISION TOGETHER. IT DID NOT WORK OUT. WE GOT A BAD RESULT TODAY. IT IS NOT OVER. >> JEREMY, YOU ARE A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY. AND, CATHERINE, I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO DROP THIS RIGHT NOW. ALINA WAS SAYING SHE WAS TO GO ON CNN AND MSNBC APPARENTLY. ALINA, YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME ON MY SHOW. ANY TIME. YOU ARE WELCOME. I GOT HER. IT IS FINE. JEREMY, I WANTED TO ASK YOU, I FOUND THAT TO BE SUCH A BIG TOWEL BIKE TODD BLANCHE. I THOUGHT WAS VERY CRAPPY OF HIM TO DO AS A DEFENSE ATTORNEY. I THOUGHT HE DID DONALD TRUMP DIRTY. WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT UNLESS YOU AS TODD BLANCHE ARE TRYING TO DEFEND THE OUTCOME OF A VERDICT ON 34 COUNSEL MUCH YOU TOOK REALLY BAD ADVICE FROM YOUR OWN CLIENT. ISN'T IT SUPPOSED TO BE THE OPPOSITE? >> THAT IS THE PROBLEM THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE CASE. WHEN YOU SAY YOU ARE A CO- LITIGANT WITH YOUR CLIENT, THAT IS RIDICULOUS. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO REPRESENTS ABOVE ETHICALLY AND HONESTLY THE LAW AND YOU HAVE TO ADVOCATE FOR YOUR CLIENT 100%. BUT THIS WAS CLEARLY THE ROADSHOW. THE SORT OF SCHEMA DONALD TRUMP. LOOK HOW THEY OPENED UP AND YOU NEVER HEARD ABOUT IT IN THE CLOSING. I DO NOT HAVE SEX WITH -- WELL, I DID NOT AS TODD BLANCHE. WHY WAS THAT BROUGHT UP? IT WAS JUST A WAY TO DEFLECT. AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAD A ATTORNEY WHO WAS A PHENOMENAL PROSECUTOR BUT HAD NOT BRUSHED HIS TEETH YET AND SPEND TIME IN STATE COURT AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY ALLOWED DONALD TRUMP TO CALL THE SHOTS AND THAT REALLY HURT THEIR CASE, PERIOD. AND ONE DONALD TRUMP LOOKS IN THAT MERE HE MAY THROW HIS ATTORNEYS UNDER THE BUS AND THEY ARE PREPARED FOR THAT BUT IT IS ON TRUMP. >> WELL, MICHAEL COHEN IS EXHIBIT A. OF THROWING YOUR PEOPLE UNDER THE BUS. EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW SO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG. SENTENCING ON JULY 11th, HE IS NOT GOING TO BE TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. RIGHT? >> EVEN IF HE WERE GIVEN THE SENTENCE. >> HE WOULD NOT BE TAKEN IN? TELL US ABOUT THE APPEALS PROCESS IN THIS CASE. >> YOU CANNOT FILE A NOTICE OF APPEAL UNTIL HE IS SENTENCED. ON THE SENTENCING DATE, THE COURT CLERK WAS A YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO FILE YOUR NOTICE OF APPEAL. THEY WILL DO THAT WITHIN 30 DAYS. AND THEN THE CLOCK STARTS. SO IT WILL BE THE APPELLATE DIVISION FIRST APARTMENT WHICH IS THE INTERMEDIATE APPELLATE DIVISION APPELLATE COURT IN NEWARK WHERE THEY WILL FILE IT. AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD IF EVERYONE FILES WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO FILE ON TIME IT WILL NOT TAKE A YEAR. THIS APPEAL CAN BE DECIDED BY JANUARY OF 2025. SOME PEOPLE SAID -- >> WHY CAN'T THAT BE DONE BY NOVEMBER? NOW, THAT WOULD BE REALLY EXPEDITED. BUT IT CAN BE DONE IF EVERYONE FILES WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO FILE ON TIME AND THE PROSECUTION RESPONSE ON TIME. SO IT IS NEVER THE COURT'S FAULT WHEN IT TAKES FOREVER. IT IS BECAUSE THE ATTORNEYS ASK FOR THINGS AND DO NOT FILE ON TIME. >> CAN THE PROSECUTION ASKED IN THIS SENSE? >> NO. IT IS A DEFENSE. IT IS THE APPEAL. >> I WANT TO SHOW THE LIVE STREAM FROM VERDICT DAY. SHE REALLY CAME OUT FROM THESE CHORES. AND IT IS TRUE. THESE WERE A JURY OF DONALD TRUMP'S PEERS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE WELCOME TO SPEAK TO THE MEDIA AND TO THE PUBLIC NOW. BUT WE HAVE SEEN THEM BEING BUT DOCS ALREADY BY MEGA EXTREMISTS. WHAT YOU THINK THEY WILL DO IN THIS CASE? >> I HOPE THEY COME FORWARD AND PROTECT THEMSELVES. I THINK THE JUDGE MADE A REAL POINT OF TRYING TO KEEP THEM ANONYMOUS FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THEY DO IN AN ORGANIZED CRIME CASE. THIS IS NOT NORMAL. AND I THINK IT IS WORTH PULLING BACK AND THINKING DONALD TRUMP AND HIS REPUBLICAN PARTY -- USUALLY AN AUTOCRAT. THEY REALLY DO INTIMIDATE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT GO ALONG WITH THEM. THAT IS WHY YOU EVEN HAD SUSAN COLLINS, RIGHT? >> NOT REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. THAT TRUMP'S TEAM WAS THRILLED. >> AND SHE IS SPEWING THE LIE TOO BECAUSE ALL THESE REPUBLICANS ARE SCARED OF DONALD TRUMP. >> THE "I AM CONCERNED" SUSAN COLLINS? >> BUT NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE JURORS. >> AND ALSO NOT ABOUT THE LAW. >> THE E. JEAN CARROLL CASE ADVISED THE JURORS NOT TO SPEAK TO THE PRESS AND WE DO NOT KNOW WHO THEY ARE. I SUSPECT THE SAME THING HERE. WE HAVE SEEN THE SAME THING HERE. THESE JURORS, OBVIOUSLY IT IS THEIR CHOICE, BUT WE WILL NOT HEAR ABOUT THEM. THEY WILL STAY IN THE BACKGROUND BECAUSE OF SAFETY REASONS. AND THAT IS HAPPENING IN MOCK CASES. >> IT IS ALSO REALLY A SIGN THAT TRUMP IS REALLY DANGEROUS. >> IT IS ALMOST LIKE IT IS GEORGETOWN. IT IS A REALLY GOOD ANALOGY. YOU ARE GOING TO DRINK THIS KOOL-AID WHETHER YOU WANT IT OR NOT. SUMMER DRINKING IT BY THE GALLON AND OTHERS ARE BEING FORCED TO SAY YOU WILL DRINK IT OTHERWISE WE WILL MAKE YOU DRINK IT. THAT INITIALLY UNFORTUNATE. THESE JURORS, YOU CANNOT ALLOW ONE PERSON TO DECIMATE ONE OF THE PILLARS OF OUR COUNTRY WHICH IS LAW AND ORDER IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE. IT IS FRIGHTENING. THIS IS WHAT GETS ME ANGRY. I SAID IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. HE IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY AND HE KNOWS PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. BUT OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM HE HAS SINGLE-HANDEDLY TORN APART AND RIP DOWN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE LAW AND ORDER AND RESPECT FOR JUSTICE. >> CLASS WERE TO YOU. YOU WERE ALWAYS KIND OF DIALED INTO TRUMP WORLD, ESPECIALLY TRUMP LEGAL. THEIR REACTION TO WHAT JUST HAPPENED? >> I MEAN THE REACTION IS THEY DID AS BEST AS THEY COULD WHICH WAS THEY COULD NOT DO ANYTHING. I THINK THERE WAS A KIND OF RESIGNATION INSIDE OF TRUMP'S INNER ADVISERS. LIKE THURSDAY NIGHT AFTER THE VERDICT CAME DOWN. THERE WAS NOTHING TODD REALLY COULD HAVE DONE BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE WAS SO OVERWHELMING. THAT IS SOMETHING THEY WILL NEVER ADMIT PRIVATELY AND NEVER ADMIT PUBLICLY. BUT THAT IS THE TAKE AWAY. IT IS SO INTERESTING BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE VERDICT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO TODD BLANCHE. >> DOES HE LAST? SUCH A HEAD OF LETTUCE. >> I THINK HE HAD A JUROR THAT WAS MORE FAVORABLE. >> THAT WAS THE -- >> I THINK THAT WAS A HOPE THEY HELD ONTO BECAUSE THEY HAD NO OTHER WAY OF GETTING OUT OF THIS. BUT THE TRUMP WORLD THINGS EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT TODD BLANCHE COULD HAVE DONE IS INDICATIVE BECAUSE TODD IS STILL HERE. IN EVERY OTHER INDICTMENT, AND EVERY OTHER MASSIVE FAIL THAT TRUMP TAKES LEGALLY, THE LAWYERS ARE GONE THE NEXT DAY. THE FACT THAT TODD IS STILL HERE IS INDICATIVE THAT THE TRUMP WORLD KNOWS THE EVIDENCE WAS OVERWHELMING AND THERE WAS NOTHING TODD COULD DO. >> LIKE THE MOTHER TERESA COMMENT. HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO LOSE. >> SHE IS NOT A LAWYER THOUGH. WE HAVE GOT TO WRAP IT. HUGO, YOU AND I ARE GOING TO BE IN FORT PIERCE. MAR-A-LAGO. YOU AND I ARE GOING TO GO TO FORT PIERCE FOR MAR-A-LAGO AND WE WILL SEE TODD BLANCHE AT THE EVIDENTIARY HEARING THAT YOU AND I ARE GOING TO IN A FEW WEEKS? >> THAT IS THE EXPECTATION. THE PACK IS STILL HERE AND THEY
