Unloading the Smith & Mills Shaper Part 2

[Music] looks like he's doing it heck yeah man that's working good so far our plan is working just like we wanted to go ahead and got two more bars go ahead I'm gonna start getting these worked under there now that one started there roll it up on I'll just keep going and until we exhaust the come-along Chang there and and then reset we've made it just about to the end of the come-along I've got a little bit more to go [Music] not all I can get with the come-along there it's trying to find uh loosen that up but we'll have to go ahead and just reset the chains I've already had to run out of slack back here with the d-ring so we just hook them around to the side of the trailer there alright so I'm just gonna try to get it to the end here and then once we get to em we'll get everything reset on getting it over to the ramps I get this bar up underneath there this was a piece of round stock I've had for a long time it was a piece that me and dad had split because we needed to make it piece that shape there you see we cut it in a horizontal mil but I worked good to lay there for you know change stuff to roll over all right got a chain back here stop right there too keep pulling it that way just waiting for the sooner the center point of this thing to pivot and go down so I'm gonna have a 2x4 underneath there to wrap so it doesn't have so far to go down and then that should catch it there we'll see what happens then [Music] [Applause] [Music] got the front picked up a little bit with the tote jack I'm moving this to buy out the way and lay it down on the bar and see if that works anyway I'll still be dragging it on the back end so I don't think it'll roll [Applause] well I was wrong there slid hey I got that chain on there hey I got this thing ready to lower it down the ramp here [Music] do you want installers underneath it now it should be able to roll down that all right we got the front of the machine just about basically he rolled in the concrete I had to put the toe jack here in front of it so that could make sure that I could get under it what I'm gonna do I'm gonna pick it up I've got these two machinery skates right here I'm gonna put both these under the front end so that it'll continue to roll I just bolted a two by off to the channel there there's something just about like this and I want to try to walk it back that way just try that right there all right we're getting into our home stretch now all right we're off the trailer just sitting on a little bit of that tube at the end there all right we are on the concrete filing I was trying to get to this point before the end of the day to at least get it down off of the trailer and onto the concrete there so I am tired I've been working at this thing for 6 hours+ I'm just really tired so I'm gonna get all my tools picked up put away you know the trailer the chains all this stuff and I'm gonna come out here in the morning and finish moving it around what I'm going to do I'll get it on the bars there to where we can roll it you know nice and easy and and level there on all those bars well it's the next morning I got my coffee out here I'm just checking out the shaper thought I would give you a little bit closer look at it and kind of talk about my thoughts you know I've been sharing the adventure over all my Instagram which is kind of normal for me whenever I'm doing something I you know share pictures there so people kind of see what I've been getting into I have a lot of questions as to why buy another shaper part of the reason is because I'm a collector of tools and machines or I consider myself a collector and I like these old I like these old machines and the past few years I've been getting back into you know shapers in general you see that I've got the G and E and I've been wanting another one around here there's two there's two differences between shapers two primary differences and that's generally the table this is a box table machine you can see that it's just more of a square table it does not rotate this is just flat you know for mainly just doing flat work and the G&E has a universal table so it'll actually pivot and tilt where this one does not so the machine seems to be in good condition whoever had it actually was that at school like I believe a high school machine shop I it looks like at some point they covered it up with some some kind of heavy oil or cosmoline or some kind of rust inhibitor it's turned really dark that's why everything looks so dark on here so it definitely needs a good cleaning it is a 25 inch shaper I believe the BG means bull gear but I haven't confirmed that yet so it's been painted over quite heavily which is common with a lot of these older machines you can see that they they painted up inside them key slots there if this comes from a school I imagine they probably had the students at one point give them a paint can and a brush and told him to get busy so it's kept it pretty well preserved though there's a lot of machine tags on here that need to be cleaned up so that we can read to see what they say but a lot of them were painted over so I haven't even got it here to read what all of them say yep looks to be the original motor no hair it's a Westinghouse it is a seven and a half horsepower there's another tag back there talking about the clutch and greasing and there's a machinery dealer tag right there I'm looking forward to getting that one cleaned off this one is built similar to the genie and the fact that the the top serves as the Gib for the RAM way so you have your get justement here this pushes this top rail over and in these bolts hold it down we've also we've got an oil site here this will need to be restored and let me see if there's one on the other side there as well yep we got one over here too so these would be some good things to restore here so we can see our oiling this is the only part that I've seen damaged so far is the way wiper so I believe this is something that we're gonna have to see about rebuilding machining a new one this side looks like I think it's gonna be fine but this one definitely got hit so we're probably gonna have to replace that but I just want I wanted to be able to pick this machine up I found it on market place I talked to the owner it was a construction company they had bought it in a lot of other tools and machines from from that school and this was something that they didn't need and he gave me a really good price on it I didn't pay a lot of money for it and it's gonna be a nice machine to have to add to my collection and hopefully make this some kind of like long-term restoration project it would be nice to strip this thing down get it down to I don't know a bare metal but get it stripped down get all this oil paint off of it and clean it up get all of our machine surfaces cleaned up and maybe even do some scraping on it you know like the RAM ways I might get my buddy Lance over here one of these days and me and him tackle this - - Reese crape the RAM ways get these looking like they should be clean all this bare metal up you know and then put a fresh paint job on it just enjoy having this old machine and getting it cleaned up and saving it from the scrapyard that's kind of what this is all about so next phase I'm gonna go ahead I think I'm gonna go ahead and roll it into the shop there because I think I would like to go ahead and get it well at least plug it in and see if it works I'm gonna replace this I've got another cord and a new plug that I'll put on here and we'll probably just roll it right in the door where that other table usually sits we'll bring the table out here get it in there and we'll fire it up hopefully that's what the plan is going to be I managed to push it a little bit it is very heavy but I'm gonna see if I can continue to get it pushed up we got the pallet jack on the back end the roller skates on the front there so let's see if I can do it it's moving and you've gotta get over that just enough to make it stop we save I'm yellow my minimize actually gotta get the front end over this way just trying to push the front end over that way sometime to forever pick it up with the pry bar and swing it around [Laughter] yeah man that thing's heavy all right I think we got it all right we got it in the door now I'm good and shut it up and get it off these pallets well I managed to get it in the shop and everything is safe I'm safe I didn't hurt myself but it was a job getting it in here I got it sitting on some blocks now some wooden blocks and next phase is to I just want to see if I can get this thing running so I'm going to replace this cord here I've got new cord and a new plug and my plan is to build a plug it in there where the genie is plugged in that's another reason why I wanted to pull it in right here but that's going to have to wait for the time being I've got some other work that I need to get done but this was my goal was to get it off the trailer into the shop so that this much of it is done but as soon as we get you know I'll bring you back whenever we get to working on the power there and I'm getting it fired up and whatever we do that I'll have the cameras rolling so that you guys can see it fired up for the first time cross our fingers that it's gonna run that it's going to operate and we're not gonna have any issues there so we'll bring you back real soon to show you the thing running I hope you guys ready to see this shape and run I just got it wired up I got a cord that I wired into the switch box there put a plug on it so we can plug it into the receptacle and fire it up let me show you what I've done we've got the this is where the the cord is going into the box there there's on and off switch there's the plug over there you can also see the cover let me show you that I took that off because I want to be able to turn the machine on with hopes and there's looking in the inside there I want to I want to see if we're going to have any oil pumping because there's no telling how many years this thing has just been sitting idle you can see that everything's pretty dry there's no oil on anything there it is it does appear to be full by the way that cover right there this is I didn't realize what this was until I had to go take this thing off this is the handle so that you can pick the thing up the solid cast-iron cover do that it's heavy too man solid cast weight cool all right well let's go ahead and give it a shot and see if we're gonna have any luck with our well first of all rotation we don't even know if it's going to run we've got to make sure it's rotating right and if it fires up and runs we need to see if we're getting some oil so we'll go ahead and take our plug and all right nothing exploded yet so that's a good sign by the way I cleaned this off just a little bit right here I wanted to see what it looked like underneath all of this whatever this rust inhibitor they put on there so I just lightly clean that off just to get the gumminess off of it so you can see a little bit of difference between some a little bit of clean versus how it is right now I had wipe that down whenever I brought it home all right let's give it a shot let's see what happens here wow that's pretty smooth and quiet man yeah alright let's come around here and see looking to see if we get any oil up here let me come around here and see what's going on all right I don't see any oil poppin so we're gonna dig further into it and find out if our level is off or something's wrong with the oiling system it'd be pretty smooth running motor therefore no oil pumping yeah we'll be having to go into this one to find out why it's not pumping oil you you're not gonna be able to run this thing without pumping the oil up there it pumps oil up to the ways and lubricates the gears and everything but let's go ahead and just move it let's just move it out a little bit and see what it does I'm not going to run it we're just going to move the RAM I think that I've got it into the lowest stroke which is eight [Music] oh there we go okay pretty sensitive there [Music] Oh I'm not sure what's going on here clutch I'm starting to see some oil maybe it doesn't pump unless you're actually running it that's all so I'm coming out [Music] I've had it in here oh yeah oh look at that it's pumping whenever we engage the clutch something I ride though it's not stroking you see if it's pumpin here we're getting some pumpin action now let me do some more check-in and I'll bring you guys back okay I think I figured out a couple more things at what I was doing wrong I actually don't have a book on this yet now that I got it in here we're working on I'm actually going to see about lining the proper owners and operation manuals for this machine but the stroke adjust is right here and I had this there's a lock right here and it was loose and that's why the RAM movement was looking real funny you also adjust the stroke right there this is the handle that you use you push that in I got that spring that sleeve right there so this is what you use to adjust your stroke but the first thing you have to do I can't do it one-handed really you have to loosen this alright and then once you loosen that you can stick this unknown on that other square and you can adjust the stroke but the problem is the stroke indicator the stroke length there is not working right so that's something that I know I've got to look in to find out maybe it's just rose up sitting on there but this is not moving so this square here and get it on there alright that lock has to be snug and now we're getting proper movement on the ramp we got it in the slowest speed which is eight strokes a minute [Music] we are getting oil pumpkins so that's good I was worried that that wasn't wasn't gonna be working but it is everything seems pretty decent so far I made sure the feet was working so [Music] this is your feet selection right there you have to turn this which is actually kind of stiff but you can turn that to change the dial we're at a $140 per stroke [Music] verse it and feed it the other way [Music] [Music] this one's going to be for your knee right there I'm assuming that the knee is is not power feed but I bumped the this is for rabbit let's go ahead and disengage it [Music] I can hear the motor humming when I hit the switch but it's not working so we know that that's going to be an issue right there as our rapid motor but the main motor seems to be nice and smooth clutch is working good [Music] morale is pumping alright well we know we got a functioning machine so that's a good positive right there [Music] we've got a lot of work to do this thing really needs to be torn down just take it all apart maybe not the transmission but take the RAM off take the table off all the other components we need to check out the feeds the lot of style is working find out about the rapid motor there's laundry list of things we got to check but excited to finally show you this myth the mills running well guys it's been a little over a month since the last footage that you just watched was me getting the Smith & Mills off the trailer and into the shop and the initial first test run so I've got a couple of updates that I want to tell you about so that we can kind of finish this video out and we'll be current on the Smith & Mills and you'll see exactly where we stand on it so what I had figured out was that when I originally wired it up and plugged it in we plugged it in over there what I figured out was that this this machine is actually configured for 480 voltage and that's what the problem was that's why the the contactor there was kind of a slow it was a slow starting motor and I could tell that we weren't getting the power here I could tell that it was slowing down on the return stroke and I could actually look over and see the pulley kind of bogged down a little bit on the return stroke not only that our rapid was not working either you know we could hear it buzzing so all that led me to believe that this was a high voltage wired configuration and in fact it is so I have installed a 480 volt receptacle over there and so I can plug it into a dedicated perceptible there just to run it where we're at right here so let's go ahead and fire it up and you can hear the difference okay instant starts up that motor runs nice and smooth too man I got to say that the Smith & Mills is a is a much quieter machine than the Jian either when it comes to the the motor and the transmission Mugen all right so we got that figured out and that also cured our feed motor our rapid okay so here's our rapid that it is a little bit noisy but I think that's just how it is how it operates [Music] [Applause] no unfortunately this does not have a rapid for the knee so you can't power it up and down like you can the G&E this when you got a crank right here by hand that's okay so that kind of fixes the power issue there we'll go ahead and go ahead and run it for you [Music] there we go it's nice and smooth I can't really do this with the GE get that told you I've got a transmission issue it'll jump out of gear but this thing is I've got it kind of stroked out not quite full stroke but pretty good stroke there so you can see it's doing good the clutch works good if you push it all the way in that's actually a break but you can you can really just kind of bump the clutch there drift it if you need to to get the tool and position the way you want it works pretty slick that's pretty neat we'll put it in low gear here that's low gear this is the gear we showed in the previous video running I think eight strokes a minute [Music] so there you go let me go ahead and we'll shut it off here [Music] nice and smooth so I do know in fact that we have an issue here in this gearbox our feed this is this should well you can see it's turning there but something's actually wrong with it because it wants to lockup and I cannot get it to change feed to our feed speeds so it's only it's stuck in one feed so there's something going on in here also you know this doesn't work where you can see where your stroke is this just doesn't want to move so we know we're going to be going into this to fix some mechanical issues and inside that so other than this I know this is going to be a major issue that we have to repair our way wipers are damaged so we need to replace those and other than those two things I can't recall any other kind of like major major repairs that's need to be done on it I want to you know fix the studs here replace the nuts and the studs you can see you know you got this kind of stuff going on but all this is going to be taken apart cleaned well I want to get the table clean all the way surfaces clean well and I definitely want to see about scraping the RAM way on this one here you know we'll take the give off we'll do some actual inspection with straight edges on the RAM to see where it's at and hopefully it's not going to be that bad I'm hoping I'll have an issue like John had over there with it Cincinnati but I don't know until we inspect it but that's the kind of stuff I want to do so this is gonna be sort of a long-term restoration project for me for the shop here that's really what I wanted this machine for it's not that I needed another shaper this is just a project for me it's a hobby it's a project something fun to do you know I like to restore machines even though I'd really don't restore very many I do like the store machines and that's what I want to do with this and one of these days this thing's gonna be restored and it's gonna be a nice camper just to kind of have a little bit of fun on and make some nice cuts with all right so that is where we're at guys we're we are now current with the Smith & Mills and the next plan from here is to actually just kind of put it right back outside right here by the door cover it up good and I've got I've got Keith's Stoker engine that he's restoring that I got to do some machine work on and that's going to be a project for the Janine I have got a large fixture plate that I've got a machine that's going to bolt onto the table that Stoker engine will bolt to so I've had a lot of jobs in here I've been trying to like knock out get those jobs done so I can get to that Stoker engine and get that done and I'm hoping that once I get all those jobs out of my way I can kind of start on some of my own production works and my own production jobs that I have here that I need to get done so that's kind of my goal for the next two three months hopefully is kind of get all that stuff started get the job's done and get my stuff started so that I can work on my personal project for the shop here as well alright so that's it we'll see you guys later hopefully you enjoyed we'll catch you on the next project alright [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] you you

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Length: 43min 40sec (2620 seconds)

Published: Wed May 13 2020