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foreign [Music] all right here we go it's an all new smart list what [Music] less Here Comes Jay here comes Jason uh oh everybody be nervous everybody be nervous what are you wearing I'm wearing it looks like a 12 year old's uh shirt with a what's happening listen he's playing golf today and with a long sleeve on well that's and it's going to be warm out dude UV protection okay I'm trying to be smart with the sun and I'm also trying to be stylish at the same time you know I've got on G4 here you can't go wrong with that I am a little fashion forward you know it's just it's just it's just forward towards um I know I know okay and the hair I wear FootJoy which is what a title is that we're the Heritage Brands and um you can't pull that off you can't pull off a Heritage brand oh it's not in your DNA hey you know uh speaking of DNA you know what today is Jay you know I talked about with you last night but Sean you're going to be excited I'm I've had to have coffee with no cream this morning and um oh wait now did you start what do you mean yeah well I started in a couple hours today my first ever colonoscopy tomorrow oh so you can't do um you can't eat anything wait that's tomorrow so you have you're doing a cleanse today yeah are you starving yeah I'm starving in a chicken broth I really I've done this I've done this like three four times why they're making you do it in the middle three four times yeah well I I had uh a situation back in the uh when I was 30 I think yeah no I was with you I was with you yeah you were 34. you triggered it Jason and I were doing a scene from the rest of them we were in a we were in a fight scene and all of a sudden he got he went like white as a sheet like he was just like exhausted I just couldn't go anywhere I mean you know Will's a bit you know he's like wrestling wrestling a boa you know it's gonna take some energy out of you and I don't know she tried to wrestle me on the lake the frozen lake and whiskey the frozen lake in the dark oh yeah well and the funny of this fight was was supposedly that it just went on and on and on and on you know that was the joke and so uh and we didn't have to do it for we did have to do it for a long time yeah and I was like I shouldn't be this tired I'm not this out of shape and so I went and saw a doctor like oh you're battling something as it turned out to be something in my GI so anyway they should uh only have you do this like starting at like 6 p.m so you're on the throne for a few hours you go to bed you wake up and you do your procedure but they have two options right you could go five in the morning or like it I'm going five in the morning yeah oh God that's you should be able to eat all day I think and then uh clean out at night they they claim no they gave me explicit instructions starting this morning do not eat anything only have bone broth I should call gweneth Yes actually did you start uh uh eliminating it I have not no thank you they also said um that they now do the procedure in a big shower um they have an operating room that's also doubles as a shower is it the statement yeah the new Bateman Wing at Cedars you can clean as you go they do call it oscares in the shower now everybody's everybody's in a bathing suit it's kind of hot Sean have you uh oh yeah no you you or yes you get the famous story about you told them to leave your your your rear door alone you said don't touch my [ __ ] right before um but wait a minute I talked to a guy yesterday who had 35. wow that sounds like a little bit what do you mean 35 what he said 35 um colonoscopies that sounds like uh yeah a Little Shop of Horrors yeah right it wasn't doing Bill Murray play that in the movie he just keeps going to the dentist because he loves the pain yeah that's nice remember that there was an episode of Arrested Development too I know everybody's like stop mentioning the rest of development but your cross's character became addicted to the side effects of a dragon wasn't that well I know he got a hair transplant and the hair transplant rejected the body instead of the body rejecting the hair transplants right so his hair just kept growing more and more and more luxurious and his body was just atrophying but he didn't he didn't want to reverse it because the hair was so beautiful so he was willing to die I remember him saying something about he used the word shunt at some point anyway so but tomorrow I'm expecting to be when that bike comes out of your colon uh that'll eliminate about nine pounds you're gonna be like a great white shark they're gonna cut you open there's gonna be stuff in there do you know how much ice cream they're gonna they're gonna find in there I know me too is that you is that your well who were we talking to the other night who eats a pint of ice cream every night other than John uh oh no uh Will's Jimmy a pint of ice cream every night and he's he's a lean man he's a thin man well Sean you're pretty lean and you you eat like you're going to the chair yeah I do I I do have ice cream almost every night almost every night I do I do too I go through phases where I'll have but I lose it the next day yeah you know we found it and you see it found it again well my cookie pad if you're looking for it it's on your face okay let's get into our uh guest wow guys I've really upped my game today in this school department this is my guess I don't know I'm not even cool enough to ask him the dumb questions I have you've upped your game to the cool Department got it you don't need to ask the dumb questions by the way you can just go with the flow no I know but I I come prepared with some dumb questions did you write this intro that's rare for you this must be somebody you have respect for no I did I did write a little bit of it yes you write yours I do yeah Willie just likes uh uh which is kind of minor freestyle today guys we know him as a superhero and Hollywood heartthrob his lip sync battle mashup of Gene Kelly and Rihanna is still one of the most talked about and watched celebrity lip syncs of all time Gwyneth Paltrow famously doesn't remember being in a movie with him and before he entered the Marvel Universe he was performing ballet every night in the West End it's the Infectious lovable Tom Holland wow [Laughter] hi guys good morning Tom Tom can I call you Tommy of course you can Tommy you've been on my list for like a two years and I've been trying to get you to come on the show this is so exciting for me you almost said a year and then you doubled it you yeah and then I remembered it's been like two years wait now Tom you're a golfer what do you think about this beautiful G4 shirt I've gone on here this guy is pink it's got something G4 well they're it's a great company I want to give this one I'm not sure about the uh the underlayer yeah right but there's Sun out here let him talk I tell you what I see Jason my brother Harry we were shooting a movie in Atlanta I think probably at the same time he was at the Bobby John owns driving range and saw you there we were gonna go play golf I think weren't we he said to me I said did you say hello and he said no he's nursing a pretty intense slice right now I didn't feel like it was the right time to go I would have struck him with my butt with my club yeah just ripping slices off the team Tom I heard that by the way uh uh great to meet you man and and um I heard from a mutual friend that we have actually uh that you are a great golfer and he he claims that you're like a two um can you confirm that I'm not too no I'm a Fool oh yeah but I played this weekend I just went up and stayed to play golf to to get away from the city and enjoy some golf I was one over the front nine with like some serious golf being played and 13 over in the back nine completely because you're working too much you need to exactly it'll be a less good actor and you won't get hired you know what they say they say if if you're shooting uh if you're shooting over 80 uh um you have no business playing golf and if you shoot under 80 you have no business so let me ask you something I don't know anything you're talking about what would my number be um probably I bet you if you a guy who probably has never played before you'd get a like a triple bogey on every hole so that's a three times eighteen is uh what 56 56 on top is so yeah that's about 130. and so and you're a four Tom 54. I'm a four but I'm a loose four you know I I couldn't consider myself to be a true four I just had some lessons I'm a loose 130. how did you get so good at golf you're so young doesn't it it takes a lifetime to become a Ford isn't it I think I just played as a kid my dad was really into it it's the thing I've always done with my dad that we bonded over that I've always had a lot of fun and then I gave up for a long time when I I just thought it was boring as a kid I just couldn't get into it and then I was on set of Spider-Man 2 and I was outside I ended up speaking to one of the chippies on set who was building a some sort of spaceship or something and he ended up playing golf we were shooting at a golf course we all ended up going out playing golf and we all became best friends over collection of like 10 people if I'm back in London I play every single day yeah and wow they're all I mean they're like plus one plus two like proper proper golfers yeah so I'm constantly chasing them but I had some lessons the other day with this guy who's fantastic and I know that what he's saying will ultimately make me a better player but right now I'm [ __ ] like literally I'm missing both ways fan it thinning it missing parts is it's tough out there right now yeah yeah I feel you after now well you're hitting all the stuff um I wanted to talk about your questions well you're hitting it out of the park with your career Mr Holland let me talk to you Eva well that would have been better by the way happy belated birthday thank you June 1st June 1st June 1st how old how old does that make you 27 I mean 27. good good for you yeah do you guys remember what were you doing at 27 Willie uh well I wasn't crushing it I'll tell you that much Sean I got Will and Grace at 27. did you really yeah nice there you go 27 years I loved Will and Grace I was always watching that my mom and I when I was a kid [ __ ] me yeah I thought you were too young to know what that was no absolutely not I love that show um you were born in Kingston upon Thames is that how you said or Tim Tims yeah the River Thames yeah um I'm an idiot uh West London right correct and you still live there I do yes and who's in your house in my house is me my two brothers two of my best friends live with me wait a minute and I went to drama school with we have the most timid version of what a frat house would be we're all obsessed with golf we get early nights and we're on the tea Early in the Morning um so can I move in I know this is our dream come true I actually have spare space please I'm living with somebody that has a deep allergy to golf and it's not great for my game um I'm just picturing uh Jason living with all of you 20 somethings and it was a 54 year old living with 27 years down out there yeah do you have room for a really grumpy hungry 54 year old oh I know my salads won't get eaten in the fridge that's true those fancy should also be safe um so hang on it's two your two brothers and two friends that are in the house with you yeah so it's me Sam Harry and then Harrison and Twain and we're all in there together you know it's a pretty harmonious experience everyone kind of does their bit we look after the house someone Cooks My Brother Sam Actually thankfully is a professional chef yeah wow which is a touch like you come home and he's practicing and doing what he does best and you get Gourmet every night every night yeah it's glorious so he's rent free then right oh absolutely absolutely and is there there's a how much you want to bet there's a big TV in the house this is a glorious TV I just actually put in a little drop down screen for movies and we play poker put the golf on and sit down it's it's a Vibe man well that's what I was doing listen if you're ever in London and you want to play some poker and watch the golf on a Sunday night this Masters weekend past weekend one of the best weekends of my life yeah Tom keep it going be 27 when you're 27. just knock it out of the park good for you yeah so you're the oldest of four boys Tom right yes and uh and your parents were both artists tell me about like growing up and like in with your with your mom like what did your mom and dad do so my mom's a she was a photographer um and you sort of like a lifestyle photographer like she'd take families out to the park and take pictures of them and do that sort of stuff my dad's a stand-up and he has been since he was what 20. does he still do it oh yeah yeah he's still gigging all the time and really he's a pleasure like he's hilarious I can't bring anyone over to my house without him absolutely just ripping them a new one and uh you know sounds like a young kid I have to like prepare my friends like just so you know my dad's a stand-up especially when I was young I didn't understand what it was I was like apparently he [ __ ] goes out and tells jokes at night or something I don't know what it is that he does but he's gonna take the piss and you and you guys basically provide him material right 100 does all the family stuff work into work into his his sets yeah there's a few things I've been to see him like a handful of times when he'll allow us to go and see him and I don't know if he like plays up to it that we're in the audience or or if he you know if that's what he's like all the time but it's pretty ruthless bless my poor mom my mom has got the thickest skin of anyone I've ever met in my life because the [ __ ] that he comes out with I mean he did a he did a um he did a charity gig for my school what else so all my mom's best friends are there all my kids all of my school friends are there all the school teachers are there and the [ __ ] that he was coming out about my mom terrible idea is but the thing is is she finds it hilarious she she's sitting there laughing she gets the last laugh and and she's an amazing Jason does some stand up he's got one joke it's great well which one oh God the only one yes please don't no no he says it's the worst I don't know how to tell it but it's funny just trust me Tom all right so and all your brother Everybody's In The Biz well sort of I mean except for the chef except for the chef he's a caterer onset caterer onset caterer we could get him in there trap him in the cage that they keep those points everybody works as actors no Patty's an actor the younger one's an actor but he's too young to really say he's an actor he's like still at school still enjoying himself he okay is lucky enough to be working in the summer and enjoys it I don't think it's what he feels 100 that he wants to do yeah but he loves it and he's really good at it he's he's super super talented and he's very natural um my younger brother Harry who's here with me in New York right now he's a young aspiring filmmaker he has his first short premiering tomorrow at Tribeca which is super exciting oh that's congratulations Harry that's right yeah that's really cool does your dad like does he hang out with other Comics were there other Comics around the house growing up did you spend time with are those his mates I remember like his kids like going to barbecues and stuff and and being aware of the comic scene and like knowing them as dad's work friends and just thinking like wow dad has like the strangest group friends like they are really sad people man like I thought you're supposed to [ __ ] make people laugh and my dad is like my dad is a very happy go lucky you know positive guy I feel like my dad's a giver he comes into a room and he gives a great energy and [ __ ] some of his friends come in and you're like wow what happened to that guy you know and then you see him on TV and you're like he's hilarious I think he's he's fantastic it's a tricky one is his brand of humor my my mother's British and so I got kind of like a dry appreciation for dry humor is he is he dry like that or is your humor dry like that he's dry I'd say I'm pretty dry too he lets the material do the talking like he's not a performative comedian like yeah he really trusts his material and he relies on the joke and he knows it's funny so he doesn't add to it everything is very kind of one note but I like that sort of thing it shows it means the material has to be better yeah and are you are you drawn towards uh comedy stuff do you want to start banging out a bunch of comedies and and do that kind of thing or what I've always always always wanted to do a comedy and it wasn't too long ago I was doing I was in Brazil and I did this show for I think Spider-Man 2 or Spider-Man one there's like 7 000 people in the audience and I was on stage for an hour with a compare who was like asking me questions and stuff and it was the greatest experience of my life because I felt like a rock star like everything I said everyone would [ __ ] laugh so I called my dad and was like Dad Dad I just did like an hour on stage and like I [ __ ] rip the [ __ ] out of it like let's do this like help me write some comedy and he just hung up he was like yeah that's never happened really but uh but yeah no I'm I'm not I'm not bold enough to step on stage and do what he does but I'd love to I'd love to do a comedy one day who are some of the who are some of the actors that make you laugh that are that are like are you like a Will Ferrell fan like me and um those folks or or do you like do you like comedy that comes a little bit more from uh actors that are doing a character as opposed to um being being broader I guess will does will does really deep characters that are like he those guys will stop yeah I love his his ability to improv the stuff that you do is my favorite without a shadow of a doubt well but I'm not being funny funny like Arnette or Farrell or folks that really know how to get people I'm the guy you turn to uh to sort of like the guy who's not laughing yeah but that's funny though I like that yeah it's that dry humor it's similar oh right right yeah I love it too I [ __ ] love that line you do and you said when you're like driving in a Prius or something is it in Horrible Bosses oh oh right yeah I don't win a lot I like that that should make a better choice one of the things I think is super cool is that um you're a straight guy who took ballet lessons like I think that's yeah you know not that that straight guys can't or it's just gay guys do or whatever but it's like you know what I mean it's just it's it's refreshing to see uh you tackle that and and it was nine years old was that what it was yeah I was I was um I was training for this show on the west end at the time called Billy Elliot yeah and I went to like a very traditional rugby School I I was pretty good rugby player as a kid and then everyone just grew and I stayed the smallest kid even today I couldn't compete in the under 12s League I'd be too taking some injuries yeah and I just I remember like getting bullied at school and trying to convince people like guys there's me and 30 girls in tights on a daily basis and I'm telling you like rugby is not where this is at like can you join me yeah but I could never convince anyone but I loved ballet for me as an actor like especially doing things like Spider-Man that are so it comes in handy it's been such a great resource to rely on and that said I've lost every ounce of flexibility but you you but you're obviously a big and you mentioned you played rugby but and and that you are physical and that you're that you like sports you like golf I I saw you um waving the checkered flag at Monaco last uh last week nice yes that was crazy it's great going to those races and dude like one of the best weekends I've ever had I took all my brothers I took some friends and until you've been there and like seen it for real yeah and hearing it if you feel it right when they I mean it's insane and it like you can feel your rib cage especially there too all those engine noises going through all those buildings through those corridors and also like at the end of the day like qualifying's done they open the track you can walk from restaurant to Restaurant Via the track and like see the tire marks across the floor it's it's unlike I love sport I'm obsessed it's like it's you know I watch anything that's on television yeah do you watch are you are you a big football fan I'm like a soccer fan yeah yeah I'm yeah I'm a Tottenham fan regrettably are you yeah it's tough man man this is a tough spell you guys are going through I mean you've got that new manager but still it's a tough time play for Tottenham will he sure did yeah yeah you talking about Gareth Bale yeah we played golf with Gareth a bunch yeah he's a good golfer I have really good too yeah yeah you would love him yeah he's a good guy he's got a really pretty swing doesn't he yeah yeah Willa you into your soccer do you support a team yeah yeah I'm a Liverpool supporter lives for it okay yeah I'm a massive massive uh support I watched I was at World Cup I mean I'm a massive fan oh wow how did you come to Liverpool uh my partner uh my writing partner not just to clarify yeah we know you're straight hey man I don't know I'm just like I would do ballet too by the way I have no problem let's do it I would I would um uh Mark Chapel uh the great chappie whom these guys uh know um he's uh he lives in London but he's uh he's a big Liverpool Sport and he got me into Liverpool okay uh and I was saying the other day like I wasn't really as aware of it I mean I love any sport Jason's the same I'll watch anything and then got into soccer you know football like 12 years ago and once I got into it and got deeper into it it just I'm a massive hockey fan growing up in Canada and then football has now surpassed hockey I think I just I can't get enough of it man do you guys know all the chants you know I think it's so cool that there's I wish we had baseball you know some of the jaunts like I remember going to see a basketball game in in New York and people like dude you're not going to believe the atmosphere like it's gonna blow your socks off and then you get there and it's like let's get louder shut up wait let's come up with something better than this wait Jay they have the organ that's it it's a one-word chant the chant the chance in football in Europe and in England in the Premier League are not only are they so good they're some of them are so clever and hilarious and they just sound haunting as they go through it's terrifying and you go to some of these places that you would have saw you go to Marseille you go to Germany Dortmund and see these teams like the way they rally together and how song just like explodes out of people somehow in unison I don't understand how it happened that's a true home field advantage the first the first professional football match I went to was uh in Madrid for Atletico Madrid at their old stadium and I was not and it was Sunday night game I remember like sort of eight o'clock and I was not prepared for the chance and the feeling in the crowd nobody sat the entire match everybody was standing and it was electric just even if you weren't a fan of the sport as a human being it was an experience are you still are you still watching rugby I like rugby I mean I love rugby I love the sport I think it's amazing I don't love rugby culture right oh yeah rugby culture is so much about like how much can you drink let's all get it as drunk as possible and I I don't drink so I'm a little bit like out of that world right right did you ever do you ever see uh Australian Rules Aussie rules is yeah crazy yeah it's sort of a hybrid of soccer and it's gonna have you ever been to one of those matches down there it's amazing it's someone like have you ever seen Gaelic football oh yeah okay League football is I guess like the Irish equivalent to Aussie rules but another sport you should check out I think it's called hurling yeah hurling and they have like a hockey stick but the end of the hockey stick is slightly wider right they have I think it's a wooden ball and they basically like flick it up and they catch it on it and they they they're bloody they're bruised brutal get hurt it's sort of like uh it's it's Paul it's Polo without the horses right exactly that's exactly what it is sounds like Quidditch according to the rules um hey um Tom how did with all of this how what was your first how did you start uh what was you what was your first thing as an actor uh like your first thing where you're like I gotta I want to be an actor I want to do this I want to be in a play I want to like what was your apparently I used to love this one Janet Jackson song when I was a kid which one I live for her oh boy apparently my mom posted it for my birthday a video of me as a kid dancing to it and apparently Janet Jackson actually reposted it like was it like Rhythm Nation or something like that I have I don't know I could find it but anyway my mom just I was I was one of her backup dancers the picture of the hands that wasn't you no Sean and I didn't Sean and I had a dance off on an episode of Will and Grace once with Janet Jackson with Janet Jackson Jason came ready taping yeah yeah you got to Google that Tom it's life-changing I'm gonna look that up yeah it's pretty good uh but okay so wait so you were down so you were into Janet I would do like these hip-hop glasses on a Saturday and um I got spotted by this Headmaster of this school to audition for Billy Elliott they started training me and doing ballet and all that sort of stuff I ended up auditioning for this show because I thought it would be fun I enjoyed the process of auditioning I got the gig I got an agent through the gig my parents were like well I mean there's no harm in having an agent they sent me one screen test self tape for a film I did it I was like 12 and I got the part and it was this film called The Impossible yeah it was about the tsunami it's another one of your questions Sean I'm sure and then I just for you Tom you get the picture now you're getting it Welcome to our life and then I just never stopped doing it I just kind of I guess I reached that age where I was maybe 16 17 I was like I can either keep my head down and like stick with school and try and figure out what I would do if I'm gonna get any millions and crushing ass right it's a tough choice Tom it sounds like from a young age you had very naturally or Jason likes to call sexy indifference we'll be right back after this um I love that he's like I just didn't care and I just thought yeah I got this part I got this movie and then look what happened meanwhile Sean is begging he's that casting directors doors got a new headshot don't know if you've seen anything here slide it under their door so we could make a cross in a [ __ ] in a Hawaiian Punch commercial you know what I mean like just please my payment was free product Tom when did you start perfecting your American accent because it's it's just it's yeah it's seamless and is it hard I've asked this before is is American accent hard to do I I think as a Brit we're so uh like surrounded by American culture we watch your shows we watch your films we listen to your music it's a big part of our lives back by the way same we watched we're infatuated with them right but we don't understand all the class differences of the British accent right I do but I yeah I don't know somebody was on I can't remember who we had on they said one of the hardest words to say in the uh with an American accent being a Brit is murderer murderer oh that was good yeah that's that's not easy murder murderer oh [ __ ] Peter Parker I find Elle's difficult to say can you say can you say Arnold Palmer Arnold Palmer see that's hard Arnold Palmer um yeah now do you get do you get conf it would be hard for me to do an accent as an actor because I would be thinking more about the pronunciation uh instead of the performance is that a hard thing for you to separate I think for me with accents like I like it because it's like an immediate different side to yourself I think that the jobs where I've struggled the most is where I'm doing it in my own accent oh really it doesn't feel like enough of a departure from who I am yeah you have trouble leaving Tom yeah yeah and I don't know my dad's you know he's a comic so he's always grown up doing accents is something he's really good at we grew up with him doing it all always around the dinner table so I love I love doing accents now it sounds like you have what about you have you done it have you tried a British accent I mean a bit here and there yeah but I wouldn't no you don't know this year it's going to be great you don't want it right now I mean I would I I I I I would do it if I got cast in a part I would definitely I wouldn't I wouldn't shy away from the part but I do think there is there is something to focus on will you say you've got your hands around the the class differences and all the different English yeah I understand yeah I could hear Tom's accent which is uh and and I I figured you were sort of like Eastern Northeast London uh am I right about that South West London really that's Southwest I have a bit of a weird accent I don't really sound like where I'm from I said yeah the people I'm surround myself with most of my mates are all [ __ ] Cockney blind yeah that's why you have a little like that yeah you have a little bit of that like just get the job done do the job yeah right I try yeah I've lost a sort of Posh twang I grew up yeah my name is father's telling me how I shouldn't shouldn't speak darling my name's Ron I'm a plaster he's Rod he's a plumber you know we follow the Spurs that's not bad at all yeah and also because I'm Spurs as well you'd think I'm not London and yeah yeah yeah yeah um so you say well the people you surround yourself with it does sound like you keep a very uh normal circle around you that that's and that that's not a struggle for you you seem like a very very normal guy is is it something that you that you battle with all of this sort of uh Fame and Fortune and permissive uh people around you is it tough for you to keep your head on your shoulders or is it come easy I don't think so I think my parents did a good job of you know keeping us in check especially later on you know I think I've seen lots of friends where you become successful and all of a sudden like your parents rely on you to you know bring in the bread or keep the family going and stuff like that and I've been really lucky that my parents have never done that they've always been my parents it's still you know I listen to my dad if he's got something he wants to say he won't shy away from it yeah and then my friends they're all golf Lads they're all my golf mates all we do is play golf there's no way of getting into trouble on the golf course I snap my seven iron the other day which is kind of the extent of my bad behavior in life I felt like breaking the club the other day and I was like what's going on with me it would feel so good yeah it was like us right now and the thing that was even worse is I pureed it I absolutely like I played a little buttery cut like I was like I really need this to land soft and I hit the car path over the back of my head I was like wow um wait wait so uh Tom when you were in The Impossible uh how how old were you in that I think I was just turning 14. did you understand like the weight or the gravity of being in like a big movie like that or did you not even think about it I actually think my youth was a real uh it was great for me because I was so naive I just looked at those experiences like as some sort of summer camp yeah it's only now that I'm a little bit older that I'm starting to really understand like the responsibility of being in a big film or a big show um I had my TV show come out right right yes yes yes right and so uh what's the show tell us about the show the show is uh it's a an anthology series called the crowded room it's um sort of my first kind of acute Goldman right oh yeah yeah buddy of ours what a great guy yeah honestly like working with him was a dream come true like it's my first real-time producing and he really took me under his wing and kind of explained to me that the do's and the don'ts of how to do it properly yeah it's just the sweetest smartest most experienced guy yeah I can't say enough he's so sweet um how how old were you when you went from uh when you got Captain America Civil War because that was the first one right where you played Spider-Man yeah I was it was like 10 days after my 18th birthday wait so that was that was before you did Spider-Man was yeah okay which was actually really great because it was somewhat like my audition for the general public ah like I got cars there wasn't the greatest public feeling about me being cast and then what happened and for me it felt like my opportunity to like showcase what I could do in the character without having to take the weight of a standalone filmed in that movie why do you say it wasn't um like the heavy duty fans were just I don't know I tried not to read into it that much it just I guess I wasn't the top pick I don't know how but the list of the final six people got out and I definitely was at the bottom of the list so I think being cast was like a bit of a shock to the system but then when civil war came out and people were really happy with it and they really enjoyed my performance and thought it was really you know it was unique and different there was a big turnaround so I was lucky to have Civil War I bet the great Amy Pascal came in with her great taste and said you know what no Tom is our guy I love Amy pascals she's my mom my mom away from home what was your first what was the first experience like meeting all the other Avenger actors like were you Starstruck were you like what was that like coming in the first day at work is that interesting thing where it's you just realize that everyone's actors wearing crazy costumes sitting on the same set chairs eating the same Atlanta food you know like there's no it was obviously really amazing and I was 18 a huge fan of those shows so it was super exciting I think Downey yeah you had to put up with down really does a good job of like setting the tone Oh he does a good job of like how people should behave he's on time he's professional he knows his lines he knows everyone's name he's respectful would you would you agree with with me on this and the guys might too downy's the funniest [ __ ] around yeah right I mean how [ __ ] funny is Danny hello he's the most frustrating scene partner out there across anyone like him you sit down you get sent the pages I write stuff I try and come up with something funny I'm trying to bring my flavor to you know sometimes these stale stuff and you you you spit out your joke on set you think that's gonna land that's so good and he just uses your joke to set up his joke that's kind of Fresh Off The Dome and you're like I'm like that's so irritating I love that he is the best didn't he come in on like a helicopter or something or on the first yeah yeah he did yeah we were it was six of us six kids that were auditioning it's the weirdest kind of meeting I've ever had like we're all sitting down having lunch and like eyeing each other up and I'm like I could probably take you lot physically I don't know like how we could go in an acting thing and then and then Downy yeah he flew over us in his helicopter he landed on the helipad next door to the stage he drove over that's not helpful you're already nervous and then Here Comes Your scene partner in a helicopter I know I'm such a hopeless Optimist though like as soon as I saw the helicopter I was like I'm getting this part and I'm flying away with him after the audition yeah like genuinely was like this is that's how the end of the day is gonna go the audition went so well I thought it was great didn't hear anything for like seven weeks what you know at that point you sort of go you let it go I didn't get it yeah call me back for a second audition I did a screen test with Chris Evans which was like a a fight test and you know I have a gymnastics background so I was like I'm [ __ ] going above and beyond I'm doing every flip side flip backflip whatever I can do to get this part I went home heard nothing for like another four or five weeks and then I was scrolling through Instagram and Marvel had posted a picture of Spider-Man and said like if you want to find out who the next Spider-Man is go to our website so I went to their website you're like I want to know who the next I was like yeah but the thing is is I was like it's obviously not me because they'd have more respect than just putting it online and they would call you right I went online I read the headline it said my name what I remember like shutting my computer and being like this isn't this can't be real and this was also right around the time that Sony had been hacked so I was like there's something going on here this isn't right way and then an hour later I got a call from the studio I got a call from Sony I got a call from my agents like this is we don't know how this has been leaked but we've cast you good luck like we're really excited but it was on the Marvel uh website yeah so I think they just tried to get ahead of the leak and make the announcement and uh in every interview basically said that's how I found out so that didn't work out for them um but yeah it was crazy was your level of excitement must have been through the roof uh obviously but did you was your was your anticipation of what was to come accurate with what you now have lived like did you did you see exactly what was coming or was it has it been better or worse it's been it's been so much better yeah I couldn't I could not have anticipated it being as fun as it was and right and how rewarding it's been you know I think there's a stigma with those type of films yeah but I've had a lot of that's your fault and you know you probably have just really enjoyed it you've been a great leader you've you've you've had fun with it and you've created a great environment for yourself and everybody else and that that yields a lot of uh good stuff afterwards right well thank you yeah I appreciate that yeah I think so and I read didn't I isn't it true that you were you've been a Spider-Man fan since you were a kid right on me like my mum has got countless costumes that have never been washed of when I was like a four-year-old kid refusing to take it off you know bouncing off of the bunk beds and stuff like that I was obsessed and there's actually an interview of me when I was maybe 15 on a red carpet and someone said like if you could play any superhero who would you play this is like seven years before it happened or maybe not as long as that and I said I'd love to play Spider-Man after Andrew Garfield like that would be my dream and it [ __ ] came true that's crazy craziest day of my life I couldn't believe it and now you've gone on you've done some really cool dramatic stuff in addition to that as well that must be nice to kind of construct your your year or a few years by you know sort of weaving in stuff that is very different from it and and working with your your folks to get all that stuff squared away is that is that is that your your goal is to try to find a real balance with with all that stuff it's not necessarily something I particularly think about I just yeah man not everybody's a psycho thinking about braiding everything in you know what I mean I think the crowded room for me like yeah it's a challenge and it's different I think meeting Akiva you know you know what he's like he is an amazing guy I think the show has an amazing message that's really important and I just felt I don't know I felt compelled to kind of jump into it and accept the challenge and see how it goes and um I don't know I don't really know what I'm gonna do next I I have taken the year off I haven't worked at all this year I've just been at home honestly just playing golf every year you deserve it um and and now you have such a massive following just huge I mean it's and and do you feel um it sounds like a Cheesy question but I really mean it is you feel pressure or any kind of responsibility to be kind of like a role model not that you asked for that but um it kind of just happened or do you just go uh that's not me I didn't ask for it and don't look at me as a role model I'm just an actor or do you embrace it I'd say something that really does stress me out is that I am so severely dyslexic that when I post on Instagram for something I have to get like three people to proof read what I've written I'm like really really stresses me out because it goes out to a lot of people and you don't look like an idiot right you know I guess I I understand the responsibility I'm lucky that I have someone like Zendaya in my life it's interesting being in a romantic relationship with someone that is in the same boat as you yeah you know you can share your experiences and all that sort of stuff and and that's worth its weight in gold yeah for sure I wonder because you've now you've done so many big movies in massive like press junkets and I remember speaking of we started the interview saying you're 27 years old I was 27 and that's when I first was like I have to do how many interviews and go where and what and it's like all of that um press and the hours of the press junkets and which is an art in and of itself by the way but what about the first time you saw the amount of press required of you was that what was that like and do you like doing because you're really good at it yeah thanks I I yeah I just always try and like smile and wave and never let them know how you really feeling yeah you know like you're on your 60th interview of the day and someone comes in and they're like what side of the bed do you sleep on and it's like what [ __ ] off why do you want to know that leave me alone yeah so I mean it's it's a bit of a Minefield too right because you you do so much of it and I'll bet you probably want to change your answer a little bit here and there just to keep yourself entertained but then you might get into something that's a little bit spicier than you even mean to say and then now they've got a headline and that's the thing yeah and that's the thing that happened to me the other day so I gave up drinking of January of last year right and by the way congrats on your sobriety and congrats on speaking so publicly about it and it helps lots and lots of people so yeah good for you that's a great bud thank you yeah so I gave up for a multitude of reasons but really just because I wanted to take a break yeah and in taking that break it was the hardest thing I'd ever done and was like oh maybe I should look at this a little bit more seriously and elongate the break eventually I took it to my birthday June 1st and by the time I'd done six months I felt so amazing that I was like I don't think I'll ever drink ever again wow but I did an interview the other day for like an hour where I spoke about giving up drinking and then about 45 minutes later I told a joke about having a meltdown on set and wanting to cut my hair off because my hair was so crazy for this show and the headline of the article was Tom Holland gave up drinking after having a meltdown on set and it's like that's not even I don't know it makes me just wanted to stop I know it's so dumb yeah wow it's really tough it's It's Tricky yeah you gotta you gotta you gotta you gotta pick and choose uh well don't ever cut your hair you got good hair yeah uh thank you I like this [ __ ] my opinions my dad the other day Jason was saying my dad said he said Jason Bateman he's definitely got a syrup and he and a syrup in England means a wig there's a syrup and pig wig and I said no I don't think so dad I think that's just his hair my dad's obviously bitter because my dad best is losing his hair and he was like that Jason Bateman he's definitely wearing a syrup I said no Dad I'm genuinely nauseous his hair yeah no plus Jason um uh never covers his hair which is astounding he doesn't have a gray hair on him yeah people think it's either it's plugs or it's color or both and it's it's just not it's locked but it's just oh you've got luck It's gotta be it's got to be thinned out um Tom Holland we've taken up way too much time you're awesome it's so nice to meet you at Japan for so long and um and and and it's like you emit exactly what you are exactly who I would hope you'd be just like the coolest grounded nicest that's exactly what we've heard keep it up buddy the show my brother and I were always listening to you guys so it's an honor for me to be here and uh we should play some golf and Sean you should come on come on you know what though count me in for the poker I love poker okay done if you're in London we have a poker game ever the first weekend of every month if you fancy it it's a lot of fun I'm gonna hit you up uh Tom when I come to England and we're gonna play 100. and we'll go watch a football game yeah fantastic uh thank you Tommy I get to now call you absolutely thank you buddy have a great rest of the day thanks pal I appreciate it thank you guys bye how nice yeah what a great guy I said it at the end there he's so uh wonderful and I didn't know that about his drinking that's great good for him yeah yeah I wonder if that's tough with all the living in a and basically a frat house I I wonder if they're all not drinking too that's that could be tough I'm always kind of um astounded too when somebody like him who's so young and got such um such big massive things happen for him in his career when he's so young they always carry themselves so confidently and like you know not to repeat the Jason Bateman thing over and over again but the sexy indifference like then they always have this like um Swagger that's like yeah I'm good if we do it I'm good if we don't right like this like and and it's it's a confidence thing that I never had at that age it's I don't know how and and so many people you have it you had it too Jay when you were younger too they all had this like thing where I don't know how they how they learn that or where they get that from well mine mine was I bought mine and should have been renting it because it it went away for me and it was a it was uh it was a a an uncomfortable uh correction when uh you know I had some some quiet times yeah um and it was like oh I don't feel so confident anymore I'm no longer uh indifferent I actually I really want it back and it and it it uh it hurt my ability to even get it back because now I'm walking into auditions desperate you know and and really wanting something and you know you start squeezing the puppy and yeah it starts to choke out yeah I squeezed the puppy and sometimes it chokes out oh oh gosh okay Tom Holland was so great so great to have him on I love that Tom Holland I I don't mean this disrespectfully um he's a great kid great kid you know well because he looks uh he wouldn't yeah I think he knows it looks healthy no it looks like you know it looks thin you know it might be he maybe he should uh have a sandwich or maybe just order a nice big juicy rib smart [Music] [Applause] last smartless is 100 organic and artisanally handcrafted by Rob armjarv Bennett barbaco and Michael Grand Terry smart less
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Published: Mon Jul 10 2023
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