John Krasinski | SmartLess

foreign I'm coming at you a little a little early and I excuse me I'm super excited for you to hear the show so let's rock and roll it's smartless smart glass [Applause] Smart Plus foreign [Music] I did sweat then I showered you sweat and then you showered so your hair is less of sweat of sweat no no no I uh showered all the sweat out you have uh just shampooed hair that you're enjoying can I now tell well my neck story no I want to get into your next story but hang on a second Jason um did you God so many questions did you do you shampoo every day I don't actually I just lied to you I did not shampoo today yeah that's all sweat I will not shampoo but once a week because uh you know uh as uh most uh most smart well-groomed listeners will attest to you uh you will get uh fluffy FlyAway hair if you shampoo every day um but then the opposite is oily gross right and that that gives you a handsome clumping okay it's the name of my new autobiography new new autobiography [Music] not to be confused with handsome uh humping uh Sean's uh three-part yeah three-part series three there's only three parts did you Sean did you how how often do you ship I shamp every other day really I really do condition too oh wait I can answer that never ever oh never how come you don't use any hair product me yes you fly away uncontrollable 1983 feathered that's my personality just fly away on why don't you put like a little bit of uh even moose the old moose now when I see you guys on Sunday a lot of times I'll I'll throw some some poopy stuff in there I don't I don't see it you need more why didn't you try and Jen stuff that Jason did the commercial I did you're talking about that commercial where you had all that food stuff in your mouth that you did Amanda shot it was not intended to be commercial unlike Sean's uh Sean tried to come over the top with his and he succeeded um have you enjoyed that yet will no did he do one for her did you not see Sean's shower Masterpiece no oh my God yeah and Scotty shot it and cut it together and in two seconds it's probably online somewhere no right now don't Sean don't pull it up please don't pull it up probably have a respectable guest that is doubting or questioning their decision at this point why don't you just air it on the TV behind you you know so that because you've already seen it when it just is it who knows you know I mean I guess we'll find it one day Sean [ __ ] I'm looking for it I obviously all right um Sean what have you done with your break listener we we did an earlier uh record and now we're doing a later record and it's been it's been a long time lunch window here in Los Angeles no don't tell we'll tell you what you ate I ate three Donuts did you really and I'm glass of milk and that's what I had for lunch I didn't eat specialty Donuts or just pizza whatever the [ __ ] it happens to be on the plate yum yums from yum yums how do you know that wow I went in my pajamas I was still in my pajamas and slippers I walked right in there Sean why why why why do you eat donuts especially for lunch for lunch so good so good I was I was really hungry because I didn't have a big breakfast and so I was like you know when you crave car I did have breakfast no I had like a cup of tea and like a muffin okay so uh just keeping scores yeah muffin and three Donuts does your colon ever jump up through your esophagus out your mouth and just square up look you in the eye and say what is your [ __ ] problem what are you doing to me no it climbs up it comes out my mouth and looks me in the iron says thank you do you just roll into Chin Chin now and you go down you go to a table level with your mouth at the end of the table and they just shovel food into it you must be busy this time more with all the Santa work you're doing right oh how many callbacks did you have for the Grove uh this year by the way we can we can say because it's on the air obviously already that you know the Sean playing Santa in the murderville uh holiday special was tremendous oh that's right you don't super quiet for that Sean was so happy because he he was like I don't have to memorize any lines I can just sit there it's just so dead really funny actually I am hearing some folks are enjoying that uh that trailer that that teaser will well we got a new Trail well this shows you know it's already as you know it's already out yes now with the Airing of this this podcast but I tell you what I tell you what it's going to be timeless just like uh just like our guest today yeah speaking of your guests I have something caught in my teeth and I have floss with me and I'm wondering if this is so go ahead and floss because I lost her in the intro because they're going to give you [ __ ] for it they will go ahead Sean yeah go ahead Sean I was gonna say I have to I have to tell you my my nurse you've been talking about the next story across two episodes okay let's go and I'm gonna floss during it no no it's too long I'll tell you well maybe our guest wants to hear it you know okay uh because this person likes stories they like telling stories okay um listening God this is like a nightmare this is just what I do when I fly that is so disgusting Our Guest is somebody this is what an intro Our Guest is somebody who is not your run on the mill this is somebody who does a lot of different things somebody that we all know some of us better than others we've been friends with for a long time this person is gets to do all sorts of different stuff they're not just stuck in an office although there was a time when he was stuck in an office for many years on TV I can't say too much because you know who it's got to be because it's Krasinski [Music] yay yes you're in your own bedroom this is my own oh sorry about that yeah I mean let's get into it here whose fault is this by the way I'm just happy to be here before the bicentennial you know I mean just before the 200th guest you know how enraged you said Emily was here before you will well she they were supposed to be back-to-back days and it got it got moved a few times because of schedule of of everybody a bunch of you because John one time and Mew and blah blah blah yeah so it was supposed to be so literally when Emily was on and you're and we're like we gotta get John and I'm just like oh just keep it straight face because he was supposed to be on the next day you are talking to us from a beautifully appointed uh room um beautifully wallpapered listener I'll have you know it's is that a children's room or is it a guest room it's a child's room which child I don't know I was uh taking a walk and just ducked into the first house I could find wow and they were all set up for the podcast good for them that they had the microphone and everything now uh John how many kids now six two kids seven just still the two two yep oh sorry with it I mean in total not just with Emily oh sorry I thought you meant it was just with Emily uh six yeah wait Johnny so tell us uh how old are the girls now eight and six eight six guys how are you by the way I'm great Sean how you doing I'm good it's good to see you it's so nice to see you Jason when you hear when you hear him talk about his two dollars or eight and six are you like you look back fondly I'm not remembering your daughters when they were that age do I have daughters oh [ __ ] yeah Jay I think I Met Your Daughters when they were around eight and six yeah yeah well they're now uh 16 and 11. well no they got it they were older they were older they were I mean younger they were younger yeah they were yeah yeah for sure for sure for sure um so you're in you're in you're you're back East you live you live East no right now I am down under I'm I'm talking to you from the future I'm in Australia because Emily shooting in Australia Fall Guy yeah so if you guys want to know how the how yesterday went it went great so you're right how are the hot costs yesterday did they go over under what the that guy leech right he's uh that guy knows how to direct a movie man bullet tree sure does right I love Dave Leach I love Dave Lee he's a great guy I love bullets that was real fun wait are you there are you there involved in the same movie or just support no I keep going every day but they keep saying no not today thanks anyway though yeah thank you you just keep getting in background line for wardrobe um yeah just like on the waterfront Style just at the gate you know just waiting but did you you just finished the movie though right did you just I did I just wrapped this movie uh that I that I wrote and directed called if with Ryan Reynolds and a unbelievable actress named Kaylee Fleming who is the really the lead of the movie She's in wow no more incredible actress than Ryan Reynolds so he's good times he was speaking highly of all you guys I love him I've listened to every single one of your shows just no that's not true I have no every single you know why because it's it feels like we're all hanging out again that's what it feels yeah so I was texting with Dylan and he was I was texting with John last night uh my last night is um two weeks ago there were two weeks in the future I don't know fortnite I forget how it works but he um yeah it was at least a fortnight in the future um and uh he says to me mate he says um I'm really excited to do the the yeah because he really gets right in there uh he says I I really I'm looking forward to it because it's gonna feel like hanging out again and I was like oh yeah it's been a [ __ ] minute since we well you're on yeah he's been busy crushing it as a director I know um congratulations on that Johnny thank you oh my God you and I you and I have had some conversations since I've been absolutely stunned by all your stuff those are so great tell us tell us thank you tell tell us what what is what is if is if in the same genre as um as quiet place it's not I uh I took a whole left turn there and uh is it uh comedic it's not it's uh I mean it is it is comedic it's basically uh it's my movie that I wrote for my kids so it's about imaginary friends and the power of uh oh I love that these adorable things aren't just adorable they're uh time capsules for All Our Hope streams and Ambitions so I like what if we could tap back into that I can do it I smell tears I smell there's a probably a nice moment in there Ryan can get you to cry so can you oh boy Ryan can do it real well well one of the things I love about kras and I always have take it down make it is that he's an emotional guy wears his heart on his sleeve there I don't know if I know anybody more emotion and who who's so open about it and it's a real superpower yeah and he has like I can't tell you how many times over the years kras is like grab my arm or my shoulder and be like can you [ __ ] believe the dinner we had or whatever it is and then he'll be and he'll be well it makes me sound like a psychopath no it's like I need help incredible I love it because it's so it's because you get so passionate about stuff and you really and it goes to everything you're passionate about the people you love you're passionate about your wife your kids your work all of it you don't do anything there are zero half measures I don't think I've ever seen you do anything in a half measure including playing a video game oh my God you remember that oh do you guys not play Call of Duty anymore with your headsets and oh we before we got into Call of Duty we headed over to Tweeter or HMV or something and bought three systems three TVs and set them up in the same room like Minority Report being crass and Thoreau and we did like a hotel at the hotel we did a three-day weekend in La playing Halo these videos usually yeah usually there's crystal meth involved in something like that just remember it was so weird that at one point remember uh Janine was staying there Garofalo and she came over and she was making she was making bead like she was making bracelets and she was there and we weren't even talking she's like eventually she's like well I'm Gonna Leave You guys aren't even talking because we were all like they were yeah we were in a hotel yeah we went down to dinner will and she told us she was there and we said we had no recollection she was there we said that we didn't know she was in then she told us she was making bracelets with what's going on down there in Australia tell me what's your average day now that down there as as sort of a planned ad you're bringing the girls to the set to coordinate with lunch time or uh well the girls are in school here we we always throw the girls in school oh you're there wherever we said about we're uh I'm here for another eight weeks and then I'm editing a little bit but then I go back to New York to edit but the girls will stay here I think for 10 weeks and then Emily's here for 12 more weeks wow that's been a long time wow I've never been here by the way have you will you've been here Drew form just told me that you guys flew together yeah we I come I've been there twice with Drew and and not only that I don't look around but I actually uh I'm like Mr Australia I just did uh with rose Berna just did a big campaign for Tourism Australia some kind of like represent yes yes I've seen it now is it is that crazy it's awesome yeah that's incredible how many pages down on the list do you think they were I mean why would they go what what oh my God what about Will Arnett just screams oh [ __ ] we gotta get Will Arnett to sell Australia to the world when I think of the Outback you know what's funny about it I get Rose Byrne at least is Australian go ahead Chris yeah you know do you remember when uh we were at margarita mix I've only had one voice campaign in my life because they heard what I had and they said thanks to voice over Studio here in town it was for Esurance I I thank you yeah clicker call anyway [Laughter] I was in the booth doing the script and in walks well and he's like Chris what's going on and they were like well the guys in Chicago were like well is that you he gets on the mic and he's like hey who is it and they're like it's Andy and Dave and he was like Andy Dave what's going on and you could hear these dudes going you think he might take a pass and I went hey man get out of the booth oh this is all I've got right now will give us a click or call him right now I'm such a clicker call Esurance oh no man oh God they're gonna revive it hang on a second yeah oh [ __ ] is this gonna wreck the audio the beeping of the Brinks truck hey do you mind if I give it a go once oh yeah let's hear it okay what's the line quicker call quicker okay ready yep breaker call Ian Insurance yeah yeah it's just Esurance but it's an insurance it's just it's crazy because I remember will you said into the microphone do you guys need it truckier and I was like come on Crash one of my favorite I'm we have so many memories I mean we we [ __ ] man holy [ __ ] how much time have we spent over the years and I was thinking about one time I don't even know how long ago this was but we were down do you remember this we had the great dog the one on Carmine Street in New York oh yeah we're having coffee it was like a I don't know it was like a Wednesday morning or something you know where it does and we're sitting there and people were walking by and we're like look at this guy we have the comments for everybody like look at this freaking loser hey nice [ __ ] jeans just to each other make each other laugh yeah and then we're kind of quiet for a second and we just go God Bateman would love this I think the biggest regret of leaving definitely the biggest regret of leaving La was leaving you guys and Emily said that the things she'll miss most is seeing the three of us in a corner just doing bits just completely isolated from the rest of the group just doing Serving up bits and entertaining to only us three just pathetic and obnoxious oh God we'll be right back 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betterhelp.com smart list today to get 10 off your first month that's better help h-e-l-p.com slash smartless and now back to the show Johnny I actually have a real question for you okay which is I'll bet you don't you know first of all is uh believe me if you have any I'm all ears they're the best John what's the craziest I can't even get it out go ahead by the way no way do you guys make fun of me asking people for theater stories and they always end up being hilarious and and I and I find from people who listen to show that they [ __ ] love them too so and actually John is a legitimate theater guy so let's uh if you have any awful horrible stories no okay great so but I really have a real job written down right here Sean I'll get to him at the end yeah only did one play it was it was all a nightmare so no for real but you wrote did it how did you study playwriting at uh Brown play writing yeah not play performing that was uh I did a couple plays uh at school but no I I uh I basically went to a theater school after I graduated I was a mid-year at Brown so everybody graduated in May I still had a semester and that's what just for home births you messed up with homer I'm thinking of something else for sure I'm definitely thinking of something else I knew there was something there um are there any funny theater writing stories I'd love to hear you here at a writing story funny thing no that's just that was just because you're alone in a room writing what's funny about that there he is he knows it yeah um okay so wait but but but I do have a question so so a quiet place was that your first directing gig or no I'm an idiot it wasn't no will was in my directorial debut which was what was in it it was a it was an adaptation of a David Foster Wallace book called brief interviews with Hideous men and will wasn't probably starring one of the one of the Hideous yeah one of the idiots probably headlining name above title um and uh no he was so nice to jump in he came in and did this small part it was amazing it was amazing so my my my serious question is dumb which is what made you go from being an actor to wanting to be a director was there a person a moment or something were you on the side of the office and go like well kind of want to do this like this is I'd rather I'm more interested in How It's Made than being in it um I think there was something happening in the back of my head but I'd never thought I'd have the confidence to direct um and I was actually sitting at a burrito place what's it called in L.A uh Chipotle Sharky's Sharkies I was sitting with Mr Rayne Wilson and he saw that I was a bit perplexed and he said um what's going on I said I'm trying to get somebody to direct this movie I wrote called brief interviews with Hideous men who goes why don't you do it and my brain shut off and I went what are you talking about he was like you should just do it and so I did and that was in the he encouraged me to uh to direct it and then in between then the the people at the office heard that I was going to direct a film so they said why don't you direct a couple episodes to get your feet wet and the office was my entire film School everything I could ever dream of I got in the purest form on that show from I mean the unbelievable writer's room that we add to these unbelievable editors and you were a writer before even an actor before even a director were you a writer first sort of I was I I was an English major in college and I in my senior year I took a course which I got into the honors playwright program and so what college Brown University of Providence Rhode Island okay great got it I've heard okay okay Sean okay Sean I'm done uh weekend it's weekends third degree over here like he's a criminal is he on trial what's going on why is Chris being being persecuted right now but this feels so good to be called crass again nobody has called me crass does nobody else call you crazy no nobody got all my phones not crazy throughout the years it's all cries on my thing and so like I'm just like so when you your name anytime it comes up I was well you know how you come up on my phone you know how you can yeah no keep it clean keep it clean Carrie Russell's the the popped eye in Mission Impossible three that's right by the way oh my God I know exactly what you're talking about tell them why tell them why it's one of my favorite movies will and I were obsessed with Mission Impossible of course born all that stuff we would literally go sit front row I mean before any other humans were in the theater we were there and we were prepared for all the movies and we saw them and when we saw a mission impossible three and Carrie Russell has a bomb go off in her head and her eye Twisted we hit each other and laughed so hard I mean just shaking each other and I made it I made it the picture so that when will calls it's this it's just this he'll do it to me sometimes he'll just like it will be about some people are talking he'll turn him and just go like two of these I think and the other thing we do to each other I think I mentioned this to JJ when he was on the show Abrams the the little brown dot that they never explained that they just put on the arm and when they like in the movie at some point the guy just walks up and just goes puts this brown Dot and the person just slumps what is the brown dot the deadly it's a poison dart and also Billy crudup's character mouths to Tom he goes yeah and they have a conversation just mouthing right but will do you remember we were at a party and JJ had just directed The Office and he goes I can't believe I remember this and I'm so embarrassed to say the story JJ goes hey man you want to meet Tom Cruise and I went what and I was like 24 25 or something and he's like come on over and I go up and whip and Tom's coming down the stairs with like four bodyguards and I don't know how Will's watching me and I don't know how I had the guts to do this I went up and pretended to put a brown dot on his wrist poison dart on his wrist and the four bodyguards moved on me and we're going to kill me before I started mouthing to Tom and he went and he started laughing and he gave me like a hug and was like this guy's okay but for a second they thought I was gonna murder him that's awesome because he geeked out we used to go down my old apartment on the West Side in New York and we used to go watch movies downtown and then we'd see like we saw all those movies down there in those theaters and we saw the the mission impossible and all the Bourne movies and then we remember we'd like run him or we'd be all gacked out on like M M's and popcorn or whatever run up the West Side Highway just [ __ ] like kids who were so stoked running as if we're like this like we run like Tom Cruise by the way I'm in my like mid to late 30s oh my God we used to yell take the shot with holding our ears I love that so people on the street and then we fed up Frank Marshall our buddy was one of the producers and we made him tell his stories we apprehended him and then he ended up sending us rap gifts from the latest porn movies he sent a metal case with like t-shirts and stuff to my house and Will was so funny because I went look look what do you got and he goes but I didn't get one and I was like no I know and he goes so what do we do I'm gonna split up we had to split up the stuff did you get invited to Conan's uh Christmas party John ask him did you get invited I bet you a million bucks he did no no how about Emily Conan O'Brien yeah that's right yeah no I didn't and now I'm really sad I'm really sad but he knows he knows that they live in New York and and uh and by the way Chris used to work at Conan uh you live in L.A he was an intern there's an intern yeah for real it was his uh script intern yeah so yeah my job all the other interns I got the writing script intern and the greatest part of the job I couldn't believe it was everybody gave him hair and makeup and all the producers are telling them all these notes of the guests and stuff and then they all would clear out for 30 seconds as Max Weinberg would hit the drums and I would have 30 seconds alone with Conan where he rehearsed the monologue just to me oh and I would cry laughing every single day and at the end of the summer well mine what was my favorite joke he's like yeah you think these jokes are funny and I said yeah and he goes really I thought kids your age just went home smoked weed and listened to Pearl Jam and I was like well you're not far off but then at the end he brought me into his office the last day we were all leaving he brought me into his office gave me a Sam Adams said I know you're from Boston here's the same Adams I just wanted to say thank you for uh laughing every night you have no idea what it means to have laughter be the last thing you see before you go on stage and I cry I'm bursting into tears hearing this he was my first talk show so the first talk show I ever did was Conan wow so when I went back to do Conan it was again I cried but I was walking through the hallways and all these people I used to work for were like hey this is great we love the office we're so proud of you and I was like it was so intense and then the guy pulling the curtain was the nicest guy ever uh and he was like we're all so proud of you go out there and have a great time and I blacked out literally don't remember anything until I was standing in the seat and Conan was already shaking my hand and he saw that I was having a panic attack and he was like don't worry buddy it's going to be great and pushed me into the chair and that's that's how I wow and cut to cut to Kimmel uh says repeatedly that you and Arnette are two of the best if not the best uh talk show guests in the history of uh oh that show Showbiz yeah yeah no it's I think it's just I'm I'm so happy to be humiliated for Kimmel anytime he wants I think that the lowest was I dressed as a shrimp for something and I don't know what it was but I was a shrimp I dressed as a shrimp on his show yeah I was in a skin tight Spider-Man outfit once out in the Hollywood out on the uh out in front of the Manchester United yeah on Hollywood Boulevard well you guys were you guys I mean those are pretty heady days especially back then when you guys when you moved up there and you and uh Kimmel lived directly across the street from each other for a number of years that was uh that was some fun times oh my God honestly it's the thing we miss most about La it was it was the hardest decision because leaving leaving those guys leaving you guys was it was really really hard you know speaking of traveling around and stuff it's got to be so tough that you and Emily being as as busy as two people could ever be I mean if you wanted to be working non-stop you both could be but you seem to both decide not to be working at the same time as much as you can avoid it yeah so that you can be with the kids uh and play mom or dad on the other person's set you just kind of take turns is that right yeah we do the best we can to take turns it's been um it was going pretty well until covid because that just pushed everything back so we had this whole plan she was going to do this this amazing show that just came out the English it's one of the best things I've seen in a long long time if you haven't seen it and she shot that in Spain and I was doing Jack Ryan for two years straight because we shot two seasons back to back and we was also incredible I mean that that's got to be such a difficult shoot no I mean Jesus God that's a lot yeah exhausting it was crazy I mean definitely shooting I think we were the second production back uh after covid I think it was mission Impossible and us and so you know you have 350 people showing up very courageously to work and saying we're gonna get back to work and we were in nine countries in season three um and all that all that travel and then season four I think we were in five more countries and so it was nuts I mean it's it's so much fun and I have some such a great time playing the role but yeah I mean shooting that is a it's a whole different thing from being behind a desk yeah I mean don't you miss that a nice predictable air-conditioned sitcom on a stage in Burbank oh yeah just LED lights nothing changes yeah Granddad [ __ ] cool your slippers for a second we're talking to people over there yeah dressing room in the stage like you go to craft service unless they've served cardboard and almonds you're not going there hey uh crazy it was such a departure though for you truly actually kind of on what Jason was saying like you first of all I gotta say one of the great things about spending you know the last couple years about being at home a lot and whatever one of the good things was catching up on a lot of things and and there were so many big pockets of the office that I didn't see at the time and I talked about with Corel when we had him on I never fully appreciated and I watched it with my kids uh my older kids Arch enable just wanted to watch that's all they wanted to watch all of it every single episode we watched all the way through and I never I feel like I never really got a chance to say back then when you were doing it and we talked a lot at that time you know when you were doing the show we spent so much time together I never got a chance to say how [ __ ] great you were on that show how funny how in the zone you were for sure for sure dialed in you were a man honestly it was right it's really really good and it lives forever so nice super small and subtle too like and that was like what you hadn't done a ton of [ __ ] before that right no I was gonna say tell us how you got it yeah I no that guys that coming from you guys that means so much to me really it really does and I don't think everyone really really agreed I just said it should Kim should mean a lot um John tell me how you got the part for people that don't know like me like what was that like was it offered did you have to read I love this oh yeah I definitely had to read for it oh really I thought you're saying my question no no no no no no I I really was waiting tables I hadn't done hardly anything and uh I had done a couple commercials and I got it Jason you played a waiter once right sorry sorry paid a waiter paid a waiter once um had you seen the British office before you read before yeah I was a huge fan huge fan of that and it's been waiting tables I'm watching the black DVD of the office when it came to America I remember it came in that black case it was just it was amazing went to a record store and picked it up no so um I was uh I was such a huge fan of that and they called I'll never forget actually they called and said would you ever come in to read for this show and I said great and I had actually been out in La um testing for things that I didn't get and I met Allison Jones who um the great Allison Jones your Show arrested yeah yeah and and cast our show and she said it's so nice to meet you I have something coming called the office look out for it and I said okay great and they called me and they said will you come in for the part of Dwight and I remember like yeah I'm waiting tables yeah I'm coming in no I said no I literally knew the show so well I said and my manager think no he thought I was insane and I said if I'm gonna do it I want to put my best foot forward and he said you know they're not very happy about this they might not call again I said I would just rather not ruin my chance by doing that role and then like six weeks later they called and they said can you come in for the role of Jim and I said sure So I read for that and then I remember I tested in New York first at 30 Rock I was terrified I was literally shaking and there were seven dudes that looked exactly like me like all gyms just sitting on a bench and each one after one went in and auditioned and probably had a great time heard tons of laughter it was just me it was just me waiting and the casting director came out and goes so we're just going to take a quick lunch for an hour so we'll come we'll get to you when we're back and I said oh God one more one more one more no okay waiting is so nervous so everybody leaves everybody came back with whatever the sweet greens was back then and I watched everybody come in and out like hundreds of people and then this guy sat across from me and he said are you nervous and I said uh no you either get these things or you don't but what I'm really nervous for is whoever is making this show because it is such a perfect show and Americans have a way of just ruining every good show that comes out of the UK and he goes well I'm Greg Daniels I'll sure as hell try not to do that and Greg Daniels created the American office for people who don't know created the show yeah he was God the good news is he claims that it was uh one of the reasons I got the part because when I walked into the room not out there it's a real gym thing to say by the way you know it's perfect no when I walked in everyone was laughing and it wasn't laughing with you it was laughing at just pointing and laughing at how stupid I was oh my God and when I when I did it Greg said you got the part because uh honesty's the best policy and I remember that I remember I was like sure man oh great did they give it to you in the room no no I then went to LA and tested I remember I flew with um Jim Gaffigan yeah Bob Odenkirk oh yeah they were both testing for Michael Scott and yeah I remember they split up the New York kids and the LA kids and so the New York kids went first and everybody left and I was the last person in the New York group and I didn't know what to do and all these La kids were going in and they were testing and I had been there probably five or six hours and I finally just said oh my God they forgot to send me home oh so I walked onto the set the producers they actually shot on the set of the show they had already built a a version of the set up in the valley there yeah it was well we we moved to Chandler Valley we started in um Culver City there was like a Culver City thing wow but I went up and I and I said uh I you um I think you forgot to send me home I'm gonna leave now and from behind like a wall you heard somebody go no no no no no don't do that don't do that uh give us 30 more minutes and I said okay and in walk this girl and I literally took one with this girl and I said Ah that's the person who gets the part if I could ever read with her I'd have one shot at this at this show and it was Jenna Fisher I knew she was gonna get the role as soon as she walked in the room wow and then we uh they said we just want you to read with one other person and I said who and they were like Jenna Fisher and I went yes because I thought if she if I at least get to read with her I'll have a shot and we read together and I remember it was as we walked 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kind of did it and then they called and they go like you got to come out to LA but you gotta you have to assign your test deal before you go and Prince Potter kept calling me going my manager Peter I go oh Peter yeah and again they kept going I know sweet pete and they go you gotta you gotta sign your thing you gotta and he's like they keep calling I go hey man if they're so excited about me calling why don't you renegotiate because they obviously want me to do it so I said that at first and I was kind of joking but I fly out as me and Tony Hale and Tony and uh I go out and I read for I was there all weekend and we worked with the Russo brothers who are now of you know marvel Fame and then uh and with Mitch hurwitz um I just spoke to uh about an hour ago and they go um you got to go in and read it was me and Rayne Wilson and um God who is the other do you remember Stewart no he had already done it but somebody uh somebody else they had a bunch of like good guy and guys who had been working brain was still you went in before so yeah but a bunch of guys rain had already done six feet under like he had a real career going and I was a I was a [ __ ] zero and so we go in and I read and I come back out and then the other guy came out and and uh and then Mitch followed him out and then he got you got the part you got the part and I looked over and I see rain still in the waiting room right there still running aside and I've still had that guy that's why that's why you know John when you're talking about being and waiting and then going to lunch or whatever it's such a already it's such a vulnerable position when you go out and you're putting it all out of the line and you want it and I see him there and I've been in that position so many times and I just went to Mission I went oh no please and then I go please please please like that guy's rain Wilson is Right hasn't even read yet hasn't even read they didn't even you were like sorry did my manager get to you about the renegotiation is it more dad did you talk to Peter principal did you everybody followed out of the out of the room walked right past rain they were done but the good news is what about him what a month later he reads for the office it was like a year later and yeah it would have been unavailable just so you know I I personally believe the arrested is I think my favorite show I think it's my favorite show remember no I remember uh Sean's never seen it yeah I know I know Sean you've seen two Sean you said you said two two episodes yeah yeah it's fantastic I've ever seen those were great ones no but I remember when that show came on uh it was such a big deal because the office had come out the British one and that level of Comedy was untouched and then you guys came out with this whole other lane that was so good and I just remember thinking if I could be on a show that good that has the confidence to my favorite thing was how you guys brought jokes back at the end of an episode that you had barely touched on at the beginning but you guys were that good if not better and people were actually watching your show it stayed on for a while you guys were a big hit and we I remember you know what's weird I just mentioned Janine Garofalo she was she had sent um my I should send Amy these she had these tapes of the office that she brought her before like right around the time they were about to start airing them on BBC America when Jason and I started and I'd seen these tapes and I was like holy [ __ ] we'd already done the pilot but I was talking to you I was like this show is [ __ ] and it seemed like one and then we started watching all these episodes and we were obsessed with studying it and then it was like I remember I remembered them saying at the time actually we thought that we were going to maybe get canceled Arrested Development the entire time we were on the air and like yeah week to weeks and in the first two years and we had been on the air for six months or something and they were starting to put together the office and principal Peter Prince bottom my manager said hey Allison Jones wants to know if if arrested falls apart would you comment would you ever consider going in for the office I don't know for the part of Jim and Pam oh my God they were gonna make them into one character yeah just to save a little money just so they're just a wig away and they're gonna call them Jam yeah we're gonna call them jams There Goes My spin-off there's a lot and I said yeah anyway we made that pilot Jam wow they won't that's why they won't do a reunion because hey John I have another we'll be right back I have another question uh coming right back from the Arrested Development rewatch podcast get us back on track yeah I want to know um do you of all the stuff that you're doing because you are so now prolific as a director and everybody is celebrating you in that way and rightfully so because you just are so nice thank you incredible um do you have a goal of a of a film or a type of film that you really want to conquer that you haven't conquered yet um either like a genre or a specific story um uh you know the truth is I I like I said I never knew that I would have the opportunity to be a director so right I I just just that's another question now that you are okay um let me just redo that sorry let me throw this tissue away uh No More Tears No More Tears I think you should read you should remake the producers and uh put Sean in there as uh Gene Wilder and I'll play uh I'll play uh uh zero mustel there you go I can't wait to see uh mind Oscar can't wait oh that's so sweet thank you look he knows it's April look at this we'll all go together at the barbaresco theater what is it the Belasco yeah yes Barbara the Vinnie barbarino theater has any show received more consistent press on a leaning than this [ __ ] goodness nothing better open let me tell you you better be [ __ ] good now you shut the bed during previews no so so no specific like oh my God I have got I have this in my back pocket I don't care if it takes 20 years to make I have this passionate story I want to tell I didn't know the way the way it goes for me is I I just I fall in love with something an idea that uh and I just do exactly that so this idea that I had for imaginary friends I never thought I would do sort of a you know a comparable movie would be like E.T or something like that it's sort of uh it's sort of a and I never thought I'd do something like that certainly never thought I'd do genre at all didn't think I I could never watch horror movies ever I was so scared to watch horror movies and so when I directed remember I remember when we went see I Am Legend you ain't oh my God and the Dark Knight came on oh my god oh no what happened poor John we just kept doing it over and over and over it because that guy was a bad guy no but will do you remember we sat in this IMAX and all of a sudden will and I again were in this tear of just you know big action movies you guys just burn in afternoons is that what it was I mean just trying to get to dinner somehow oh my God no but will do you remember they played the first 10 minutes of the dark night I was about to say that and we went oh my God oh my God we've heard about this where they like switch a movie to test the audience stopped after 10 minutes and it went I don't know that was [ __ ] crazy what do you mean they stopped the movie after 10 minutes they stopped they literally showed the opening of The Dark Knight the whole thing is like a as like a special thing a tied to uh I am Legends but it didn't even say like this preview it just started we were like oh my God we're in a test we're in a test at first we didn't even know it was dark knight because you don't know and we're like what the [ __ ] is going on and then we're like holy [ __ ] they're gonna show the [ __ ] movie and then the Joker came on screen and we were like oh my God and we would do that for [ __ ] months to each other out of the blue just I like that I remember Amy hating it well do you remember you guys stop oh she's talking and we were like so much you're starting to sniff out any Talent there with the with the eight and the six year olds that they want to act or direct or sing or anything like that like Mom and Dad they went through phases of it but I don't think I don't think either of them right now are wanting to do it would you let them if they said if they said they wanted I don't think they know that I'm an actor so they're are they do you think they're going to be tall oh yeah Hazel's very tall but she's not so tall but yeah Hazel's very tall you know John John's family his parents are both really tall his brothers are the shortest he's the shortest his family he's six four everybody is huge if if you ever want to like anytime I spend time around John's family I'm always like [ __ ] man I feel short and I usually feel tall especially around you two idiots I feel like you know really a person of substance and then because tall people are better and so then um and I know I'm gonna get a lot of pushback on that but but then um but John as it turns out was at the time for many years John what's the stat about your birth weight oh I was the biggest baby in Boston I think for I was 11 pounds 12 ounces good God that's three children yeah it was three children and you were and you were the last one yeah I was the last one I'll never forget the story Will loves his story my mom went to a doctor's appointment and was with a doctor and a nurse walked by a gentleman uh walked by and literally looked like he was in a horror movie and he said to my mom he goes I was there and she goes excuse me and he goes I was there when you gave birth to that baby and my mom does well I I have three kids and he went no the big one but this guy was scarred for life yeah and then he went and then he went laughs [Laughter] oh my good good I love that story I can't get over here yeah it probably wasn't the biggest baby in Boston I was bit probably the biggest baby at that hospital for a while but yeah that's really funny I was a baby and I was there he was like sliding in shuffling like a zombie um she says crazy [ __ ] it's so great to see you dude thank you man so awesome thank you miss you man we miss you so much when's the in-person stuff again how long you see you there for another eight weeks then you're gonna be in New York and then I'll be in New York indefinitely you know what that'll time out too I'll time out to carpooling to Sean Hayes's Broadway show playing at Wichita by the way if you guys come for opening night let's all go together let's all go together done done let's all go together I would love that I can't that'll be really fun honestly Sean congratulations that's amazing it's been about 15 years making wow the reviews are off the chart and this is going to take everybody this is going to be it's going to be a Smash Hit well thank you thank you thank you uh okay but anyway Johnny it's so good to see you I haven't seen you in so long please uh let's get together when you come back yeah I would love it and thank you guys this was wonderful to hang out again it's been it's been too long miss you guys John love you buddy love you man have fun down under hey all right guys yes Elaine bye Johnny aluminum oh nice he knows how to slam it he knew he couldn't wait he's a listener he couldn't wait to slam it that's such a he's a true listener I mean he is the listener as you know he's yeah Jason he's texted you too how much he he likes listening to the show and I tried to put it together for a while obviously knew he was coming on for a while and we were just trying to time it out for a couple months that was a good surprise wait he was really supposed to go on the day of or after Emily I I'm pretty sure it was the day after or two days after wow that would have been wild and that's why you guys you and you guys were after um we had Emily on the show after the recording when she left the the show we were you had we were talking about you guys we got to get John on guy and I was like Jesus [ __ ] Christ I know I kept going no I know and you knew it you knew it back then um what a great guy really sucks he doesn't live in L.A anymore God it changed everything no why don't we just move to New York um but uh anyway we've talked about the three of us about and fantasize about all of us just living there that's living full time again I know I used to live there for over 20 years I know I know do you miss it well I do you know I didn't when I first sold uh my apartment was like five God coming up on six years ago and I was like no I'm just like so la and now I really I really miss it I do it's hard what about even just for friendships like it'd be like because guys are terrible about maintaining friendships right I will speak for myself I'm I just feel like well it'll just we'll just pick it up right where we left off when we and for the most part that's true but I I mean maybe in our last third half quarter of Our Lives we'll just throw throw it all away and just do friendships no no career we'll do that for sure but but that's one of the great things about when you are in New York and you know obviously president I talked so much back then in the day we would yeah we would burn afternoons and go to see movies and stuff but when you're in New York you kind of do that more than we do in LA we're so successful everywhere in Los Angeles and the three of us obviously because the weekends we spend time together and whatever and Jason we play golf like if it wasn't for that we wouldn't see each other right um you know it's funny it reminds me of you know um you guys know Mike O'Malley and um you're friends with them and my old friend uh and I remember him once saying like when you people get getting mad like that you don't hang out anymore and he used to always say yeah life happens and then when you see each other you pick back up and you don't go like hey why don't we hang out you don't get into that [ __ ] you just go yeah hey I love you and like here we go but but like but but here's the thing like a marriage friendships are also work yeah right so you have to put the effort in in order to receive it back so I think um if you think of it that way that's how I think of it yeah you think of our friendship as a lot of work too much I feel like you guys are staring at my box here um well we were when you were flossing your teeth hey hey girl uh so um but Johnny we love him we do love them and it was great I'm I'm so happy that we've now had I was thinking also two of our friends but certainly two guys that I used to spend you know a lot of time with them and and still doing various you know because we were like we were just saying life kind of happens um but two guys who had different times in my life I've considered to be it almost sounds patronizing to say little brothers it's just because they're younger than me um cries and Bradley have gone on to become these great directors yeah um and so is this other guy we're looking at Jason Bateman and so is Jay yeah but also younger than you please looking sorry let me finish oh that's true go ahead I guess that's fair that's that's because you have all that dirty hair you know that was great to talk to John uh very very difficult for the uh interview to be over because uh you know at the end of it you gotta say bye you know yeah bye bye so let's just let's just make it real this time you know that was a very real buy it's hard to say bye to John hi I'm trying to make I'm trying to make it real and also bye so bye give your best Crying by right now soft soft bye soft cry bye cry bye will or Sean what's your best cry buyer that was it oh well there's mine ready yeah oh god I've had a little bit of vomit in it too I so uh I guess they'll let us know they'll they'll let us know which one they want to go with um my availability is uh thank you you swallowed that bye [ __ ] that was a good one smart [Music] [Applause] [Music] less is 100 organic and artisanally handcrafted by Bennett barbaco Grant Terry and Rob I'm Jeff smart loss our next episode will be out in a week wherever you listen to podcasts or you can listen to it right now early on Amazon music or early and AD free by subscribing to wondering Plus in apple podcasts or the onedry app

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Published: Tue Jan 10 2023