Time is (NOT) an Illusion: The Garden of Forking Paths (Genshin Impact 4.4 Lore and Theory)

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hi it's me Roozevelt. Sooo I have a bit of a tinfoil  hat theory.I think time in Teyvat is... a little weird.   like, we have all these chaotic time spaces,  a mysterious goddess of time and moments, all   topped off with confusing memory alterations and  a not-so-clear timeline. And now there's reignited   interest in samsaras (and potentially time loops)  with a note outside of the Narzissenkreuz Tower.  Fortunately with patch 4.4 and Chenyu Vale, we have  received new TIME LORE! And that's found in a   little Fontaine Bookshop with the book series "Time Trekker."  no no no no no please don't go! please hear   me out. Listen, it's like my brand. I love books  and I love reading! [Flashback] I'm Roozevelt, I'm 19, and I   never learned how to read [end Flashback] so Time Trekker is a  story that involves, well. time travel. Basically   the main character travels to different periods  to solve riddles, only to find out that he set   up the riddles for himself from the future. So  it has a very specific kind of time travel, but   one that brings up a question about time: How  changeable is the past? Or for that matter, a   future that has already been prophesied? After I've  summarized the book, I'm going to make the argument   that the book has an obvious message about fate,  but has a more hidden meaning about free will.   so let's Trek on to the story, then. The series  starts out with an unnamed narrator observing   some high-class society meeting set in modern-ish  Fontaine. They're discussing High Society things   including academics and philosophy that they don't  understand, and how bored they are. One lady, Aviva Nenonen,   is opining about how all of the world  has already been conquered, so there's nothing   left for man to explore. But then one member of  the group, Neven Ciric, pipes up. He says that she   is neglecting the one area we haven't conquered:  time itself. And Ciric makes the argument that you   cannot separate time and space, so therefore time  itself is a space that can be conquered. After this   discussion, Ciric announces that he will have a  time machine made and ready in 2 months. Fast   forward and there's another meeting for Ciric to  show off his time machine... and Ciric looks older   than he should. Ciric simply presents a tiny,  exquisitely-crafted model of a whale airship.   He is questioned and almost ridiculed about it, but  Ciric proclaims this is just a projection of his   time machine, and in these two months, Ciric used  the machine. The narrator then relays his story.   Ciric went back in time to the Remurian Empire  where he witnessed the massive scale of the   architecture and Remus's golems. Ciric encounters a  native, Aidia Anavana, who for some reason believes his   extraordinary situation. After some questioning  Aidia reveals to him a stone slate with a riddle.   This riddle is not written in Remurian but modern  script. Ciric eventually finds that the answer   to this riddle is a date in the future he must  input into his time machine. He bids farewell to   his Remurian friend and departs. In this new time, he  finds another riddle revealing another date. This   continues in other time periods with increasing  complexity. He eventually gets to the point where   the riddle gives him an answer of 0: "Moment Zero." There he witnesses a primal sea and red   skies dotted with blurry stars. He's shocked to see  the Palais Mermonia beneath the waves, and he also finds   a person waiting for him... someone who looks just  like him. They have a chat where Ciric asks this   reflection: "You created these riddles?" Almost as if  reflecting his words, this Other-Ciric responds:   "You created these riddles." so Ciric asks if zero is the  answer to the big riddle of time. To summarize what   Other-Ciric says: "zero is not an answer but another  mystery. The answer to time's riddle is likened to a   mirror: when two mirrors face each other, time is  the infinite reflection of light therein. As you   look at the gap between the two mirrors, all beams  of light fall along the same plane. Everything   must infinitely recur, for this is the nature of a  mirror. There is no past or future. for the past is   the future. The Palais Mermonia was always sunk before  it was built... and that's why you cannot conquer   time." In fear, Ciric pulls out a gun and shoots  this doppelganger, and thus concludes his tale.   The room is left dumb-struck. Ciric says that we  can choose to believe him or not, but as he leaves,   he says: "My Future Self awaits a riddle that I  must set for him." So the book ends on a rather   dark, mind-bendy note. But before we get into any  big brain topics on actual time travel, I wanted   to point out some Fun References! At the start,  Lady Nenonen quotes a king named Argeadai. This   seems to be a reference to the Argead Dynasty  of ancient Greece, which included Alexander the  Great. What she says seems to be referencing this  one quote about Alexander weeping because he had   nothing else to conquer... but like, that's not a real  historical quote? uh that's something Hans Gruber   said in the original 1988 Die Hard movie. Although  I guess if you're a bunch of pretentious bourgeoisie,   it'd be pretty in character to confuse a Bruce  Willis movie with Plutarch. [Laugh Track] Hilarious! So another   cool reference: nearly all the names in the book  are palindromes, like Nevven Ciric, meaning they read   the same backwards and forwards. Interestingly,  the stone slate riddles Ciric solves are also   palindromic, and arranged in a square. This makes  me think this is referring to the Sator Square,   which is a widespread cryptogram that's thousands  of years old, whose meaning is still a mystery. The   text of the Sator Square actually appears in-game  in the Beastly Rifts. BUUUT the Square's palindromic   nature also inspired another piece of time travel  media: the movie Tenet! Boy, if I had a penny every   time Hoyoverse did something that made me think of a  Christopher Nolan movie, I'd have a little bit of   sense/cents [Laugh Track]. The biggest reference though comes towards  the end of the story, when Other-Ciric monologues   about the nature of time. It explicitly draws  from "The Garden of Forking Paths," which is a   mid-20th century short story by Jorge Luis Borges that  explores Free Will and the infinite possibilities   of the future. But Time Trekker outwardly rejects  its philosophical underpinnings by asserting   that there is no past nor future, and as  such, Free Will is as much an illusion as   time is. Any and every tragic Destiny cannot be  avoided, and we are all ultimately prisoners of fate. [Laugh Track, Seinfeld Theme] Wow, okay, that existential crisis really snuck  up on us. This last part was just to give a preview   that Time Trekker may actually have a very layered  meaning. Yes, it is about time travel, but here's the   thing: although the machinations of time are the  foundation, the real significance lies within the   implications for fate and destiny. Also, a quick  speculation disclaimer, and also a heads-up for   the podcast-style listeners - the next sections are  going to have a few visuals that might be helpful   for illustrating some concepts. Time Trekker has  what you would call a "self-consistent" timeline.   Now, most of the traveling Ciric does is bounce  around different periods to solve riddles. But at   the end of the book, Ciric says that he must leave  to go set up the riddles... because it's implied that   Ciric set them up for himself. All of his time  travel was already integrated into the past. In   this type of timeline, you can't change anything,  because everything, including the time travel   itself, has already happened. The past is "fixed." I  do think this is similar to what happened during  Ei's second story quest where we witness her planting the  Sacred Sakura 500 years ago. Miko said it was always   there to her, and it was certainly there when  we arrived in Inazuma. I digress, but I think this   goes even deeper. Towards the end, Other-Ciric says  that there is no past or future. His subsequent   description of time seems to invoke the "Block Universe." In our perception of time, the past is   behind us, the future is unknown, and the present is  now. But according to the Block Universe, the past,   present, and future exist simultaneously. There is  technically no past or future because the present   is arbitrary, according to the theory of relativity.  This is perhaps why Ciric refers to his past self   as his future self - because past and future is a  matter of perspective. Since the past and future   are just as real as the present, the Block Model  implies that not only is the past "fixed," but also   the future. Space-time is an unchanging block,  like a movie reel. We just only perceive the   cross-section we call "now," a singular frame in the  movie. This is why Other-Ciric says that the past   is the future, and is what Other-Ciric means when  he said that the Palais Mermonia sank long before it   was ever built. This also applies to the larger  world-building of Genshin with fate and destiny.   For example, how Nicole called the prophecy the  "history of the future," and also how Dainsleif said   that there are no coincidences in the world.  Everything is the fruit of seeds planted long ago.   This block contains all the Light Between the Two  Mirrors, or, you can think of it as "fate." It's not a   coincidence, then, the clear parallels between  Time Trekker and Furina, Focalors, and the prophecy.   For example, Neven sees a sunken Palais Mermonia, and  Other-Ciric explains that the palace had sunk   long before it was ever built, just like Fontaine  was prophesied to be flooded. And Ciric seeing his   reflection in Other-Ciric, and the analogy of  mirrors, is very evocative of the image of   Furina and Focalors in the mirror. Also, Furina's Salon  Solitaire comes from another unnamed book that also   features time travel. And finally, there's the stone  slates, with Fontaine's slates revealing a prophecy,   and the books holding a riddle. But the events in  in Fontaine suggests something interesting. The   prophecy happened exactly as said - or at least, the  version on the stone slates did. However, the block   model would also necessitate that EVERYTHING that Focalors did was going to happen anyway.   Like, that Neuvillette regaining his authority was  also fated. But given Focalors' effort to deceive   the Heavenly Principles, and the heavy emphasis  on Nicole's words suggesting there are loopholes,  this does not seem likely. So, this is all to say, Time Trekker  seems to imply a "fixed" timeline or a Block   Universe where you can't change anything and have  no Free Will. And this model may superficially work   with Teyvat... until it doesn't but. I think  in its presentation, Time Trekker is also trying to   imply that things may not be as they appear. And  this is where The Garden of Forking Paths comes   to play. And thanks so much to to my friend Sabre  for pointing this out and pushing me into the LORE HOLE.   The Garden of Forking Paths is a short story  by Jorge Luis Borges, a renowned Latin American   author of the 20th century. The story is a spy  thriller with no time travel... but, in its themes,   it rejects the notion of a "fixed" timeline or Block Universe.  Within the story, there is another frame   story of an author who was attempting to write  the grandest "Choose Your Own Adventure" book of   all time. This "Choose Your Own Adventure" was  intended to be a massive book where every   decision infinitely forked off into new chapters.  In a way, it was intended to be a continuously   growing labyrinth of different choices and paths  and opportunities. This ends up being the theme of   Forking Paths: we have the agency and free will to  make decisions that branch off into new timelines.  Fate does not direct or guide your every move. As  a side note, this story may have been a precursor   to the "many-worlds interpretation" of quantum  mechanics, aka the Multiverse! But the point here   is the emphasis on free will. Here, Borges presents  time as an expanding labyrinth of opportunity   versus an unchanging block of fate. Time Trekker's  reference to this short story is *incredibly* subtle.   Other-Ciric's monologue about time explicitly mirrors,  no pun intended, an excerpt about the forking paths,   and it inverts, completely changing its meaning.  In Time Trekker, zero is not an answer, but another   mystery. Diverging, converging, and parallel lights  form the illusion of time where all light falls   along the same plane and doesn't escape. There  is no past or future, and the future is the past,   because these are arbitrary terms talking talking  about the same thing, just seen from different   perspectives. Contrast this with Forking Paths: the  explanation is obvious, no mysteries here. Diverging,   converging, and parallel times create a web of  time that embraces *every* possibility. It doesn't   trap and contain just one, and exclude all others.  Time is forever dividing itself toward innumerable   futures. So I hope I've begun to make it clear  how the narrative style is so similar, yet the   messages are completely opposite. It's a confined  Block versus an unconfined Labyrinth. I find this   choice to be incredibly interesting. Like, why go  through the effort of making a reference, just to   reject its message so strongly? Well, I think this  may be a bit of a riddle in itself. One of the   characters in Forking Paths even says a riddles:  "The rules of the game [the riddle] forbid the use of   the word itself. To eliminate a word completely,  to refer to it by means of inept phrases and   obvious paraphrases, is perhaps the best way of  drawing attention to it." So I think by mimicking   and inverting the meaning of the text, Time Trekker  may actually be doing just that: hiding the truth   in plain sight. And perhaps the truth is that the  the future is more flexible than we're lead on to   believe. I think we've had hints of this elsewhere  as well. In another book, Vera's Melancholy, which I've   made a video about, one of the main characters  says: "the past cannot change the future, for the   predetermined rules of equilibrium are slightly  more powerful than me. But the future, with its   infinite possibilities, could save the world."   This sentiment of "the future saves the past" is   echoed in Dainsleif's character introduction, which  has the exact same lines in the original Chinese   as Vera's Melancholy. But for whatever reason Dainsleif's introduction was translated differently.   But there's another really important theme in  The Garden of Forking Paths that's a little   harder to catch: it's that despite free will, this  intricate web of possibilities is still limited   in many ways. The main character, WHO IS A SPY, says  that in this huge web made by different decisions,   in most paths, he would have been caught anyway.  That is, he felt destined to be hunted down as a   spy. Borges refers to this as the "convergence" of  timelines. While there is flexibility in choices   there is sometimes an inescapability of destiny.  But at the same time, the implication here is that   different decisions create different different  timelines, and thus they open up different future   possibilities. And I personally think this is  what both Nicole and Dainsleif refer to when they   say "hidden corners" or more simply what the gods  cannot see: different choices create different   opportunities, even if they arrive at the same  final point. These different opportunities   created by the different forking paths may be  where changes can really happen. So now we we've   finally reached fun speculation. But think of it  this way: perhaps time and fate in Teyvat is an   illusion, a hoax just as fake as the sky itself,  but the reality may be that the future has way   more than a single path. And "fate" only seems  real due to these convergences of timelines.   Because remember, a prophecy is only the future  from the perception of the gods. Perhaps the gods   see these convergences and the path sometimes  doesn't matter. Let me tie this together with an   analogy: imagine the Block Universe as a script  for a play. As a performer, you follow the script,   the same way that fate dictates your past and  future. But imagine you want to change something   about the story. You're not the script writer or  director, but you happen to know of the Forking Paths.   So during the play you improvise a little  bit. The director may notice but they won't care   as long as you bring it back to the plot. Imagine  that these changes may have seemed inconsequential,   but the play is more successful, and you even had  some audience interaction, and now the audience   goes home with a gift. If that sounds familiar,  it's because this was Kaeya's hangout. Boy, I hope   this isn't foreshadowing for something crazy I'm  going to say later! But there's one last topic I   want to address, and it's the concept of time  is a flat circle, and history repeats itself.   Ciric says a few other interesting things in his  monologue: "everything must recur because that is   the nature of a mirror." Even the imagery of light  infinitely bouncing between the mirrors seems to   evoke repeating patterns. Going back to Borges, he  was an author interested in topics such as time,   dreams, mathematics, and philosophy, and he also  explored the concept of circular or repeating   time. For example, in his "The Doctrine of Cycles"  and "Circular Time" or even "The Immortal." But what   emerges here is a discussion surrounding the  Eternal Return. Eternal Return is a concept I've   talked about before, and it's foundational to the  works of philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche. More specifically   there are SO many references to Nietzsche and Eternal  Return in the game already. Basically Eternal Return asserts that time is infinite, but matter  is finite, so history will inevitably repeat itself.   Infinite time allows for infinite recombinations  and possibilities, but if those combinations are   limited, they repeat themselves. I should clarify  now that while "block universe" and the "many worlds"   implied by Forking Paths have more of a history  in actually being used to explain the machinery   of the IRL Universe, Eternal Return is strictly  philosophical. Nietzsche was less focused on if the   basis was true, and more the existential question  it posed: would you have an Amore Fati, or a love of fate,  knowing everything will just happen again  and again? This thinking is also in line with what   we're given in Genshin. The IRL term samsara is a  spiritual cycling, and the Sumeru Archon Quest went   out of its way to specify that it wasn't a Time  Loop, but a dream playing over and over. And when   the Narzissenkreuz note describes samsaras, it's very specific  about referring to spiritual evolution. So while   this is a clear divergence from the topic of  physical time, Eternal Return still addresses   the personal questions of fate versus free will.  ... and this brings us back to Kaeya. Wait, so that was foreshadowing! In his hangout, Kaeya repeats the  phrase "Yes, so must it be!" multiple times. it's   in his thoughts, his words, the quest titles, and so on.  I mentioned in my Kaeya hangout video that there   seemed to be some themes of Eternal Return, like in  his recognition that history repeats itself. But I   didn't know at the time that this is actually an  explicit reference to to Milan Kundera's novel "The Unbearable Lightness of Being." In Unbearable  Lightness, the main character reaffirms every   decision he makes by glibly attributing it to fate.  With every decision, he says, "Es muß sein!" This itself   is a reference to Beethoven's string quartet number  16, where there's a call-and-response of "Muß es sein?" and  "Es muß sein!" which translates to "Must it be so?"  and "So must it be!" ... the exact same words that Kaeya   repeats. This is an incredibly revealing reference  because Unbearable Lightness explicitly rejects   the idea of Eternal Return. So the book posits  that instead of worrying about Eternal Return,   or fate in general, we need to YOLO. Like literally.  Me and all my homies hate destiny. There's only   one life to live, and we got to live it to the  fullest. And here is when we can tie everything   together. So Kaeya compares fate to a script, like  one written by an Akademiya student, which implies   something like a Block Universe. Because there is  no past present or future in the script, it just   all exists, it's all there, it is what it is. But  he also says we can improvise a little bit, which   to me, sounds like a nod to the Forking Paths. But  from a philosophical angle, Kaeya is also rejecting   the very notion of fate and destiny. Kaeya also would  like to defy fate. What remains to be seen, though,   are those inescapable destinies, the convergence of  timelines, and which of the forking paths Kaeya will choose. So I want to close out this video by  generally going over what the implications of   all all these time shenanigans are for the story.  In terms of the future, fate will be inescapable at   some points; however the Forking Paths give wiggle  room to open new possibilities before convergence   to a shared destiny. These are the hidden corners,  or loopholes, Nicole refers to. I think? There may   also be the possibility for time travel back  into the past, particularly with the Travail   Trailer referencing Khaenri'ah as Chapter (???). I think  if that does happen, then whatever happens is   already baked into the timeline. Nothing changes,  and we simply don't notice because it's already   happened. Alternatively, there may be some wiggle  room here too. The Forking Paths never addresses   the possibility of changing the past, but the  implication would be a creation of an entirely   new timeline, or a new world... which when you think  about it, may be within the purview of a Descender.   One who can create, sustain, protect, or destroy an  entire world. I won't speculate too much on that   and I'll just leave that to you guys for your  own interpretation. Thank you all for watching.   I also want to thank all those who helped  me create this video, because time travel is   a doozy, including my friends Cole, Cristal Marie, Ashikai and many others. But in particular Sabre   who helped me start all of this. Please like and  subscribe! Leave a comment with your own theories.   I've been super busy with life so I haven't been  able to produce as much as I'd like, but thanks   for sticking with me. But also ... have you checked  your smoke detector batteries recently? Okay bye [outro song about checking your smoke detector batteries]
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