LD: Hi, there.
On this show, I'm going to share the number
one lie that the devil tells almost all of us. You're not going to want
to miss this. [Music]>> Do you already think
you know what heaven and hell are all about? Is there nothing more to know
and nothing new to learn? Let Laurie Ditto open
your eyes to the unseen world as she shares from the heart
what she has learned when God took her
to both places. She reveals all the wondrous
workings of a glorious heaven and all the unspeakable
horrors of a hell to be avoided at all costs. What you will see and hear
is beyond your imagination. Join Laurie Ditto
and "Make Today Count". LD: Hi there. I'm Laurie Ditto. Welcome to
"Make Today Count". You know every day
is important. And if today, if today
you could love like Jesus loved, did you know
by the end of the day, you would be sure
that this day is counting in Heaven; counting for you in Heaven,
helping many others love like God loves. On today's show, I'm going to be sharing
about the sins that are in hell and the biggest lie that I found there. So, to begin with, I'd like to look at James 3:16. This is what it says
in James 3:16. It says, "For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing
are there." Another version, another way of saying
it would be that where there is
selfish ambition. Huh. Where there is selfish ambition,
there's every other evil thing.
And you know, I'm naturally an ambitious person.
But, oh my goodness,
do I have to be careful because it's so easy
to fall into selfish ambition? And when you're there,
that really is an amazing place to allow every evil thing
to come and join you there. You know, there are
two types of sins; There are the sins of omission
and the sins of commission. What does that mean?
The first one is the one where you don't realize
you're sinning. And the second one
is where you knew it was a sin and chose to do it anyway.
Whether you were thinking, oh, I'll repent after or not,
you knew it was, then you knew
you shouldn't do it, but you did it anyway. And those sins are
so dangerous. You can be guilty- You are guilty of both
sins, but the punishment for the sins
of omission are looked at differently
than the sins of commission. Absolutely. Makes perfect sense. I want to talk about Matthew 18,
because when I was in hell, I understood Matthew 18
with a unique clarity. Let me break it down
in my own words. So in it, some disciples
come and they ask Jesus, How many times do I have
to forgive my brother? Lord, seven? And seven
is a lot of times. And the Lord gave him an answer.
No, seventy times seven. Meaning you have to
forgive your brother and keep on forgiving Him. Well, that makes it
very, very hard. It's almost like,
how can you do that? How can you keep on forgiving? And so they were baffled,
they were confused. And so to fix their confusion, Jesus told them this parable.
But inside of this parable, you're going to find the truth
of the Kingdom of God. So in it, Jesus starts
out, there is this king. Obviously, he's
a benevolent king, and he calls in
his servant who owes him a debt. That debt-
I did some research- is 5,173 life times; a lifetime being seventy years. 5,173 lifetimes of debt. How did that guy
ever rack up such a bill? But that was the bill, and the king says,
"Pay me everything you owe me." And the servant says to him, "Oh, Lord, please be patient
with me and I will pay you back
everything that I owe you." Hmm.
So the king says to him, he says, "Your debt
has been forgiven." That is remarkable!
How wealthy must this king be that he could just forgive 5,173 lifetimes of debt? But that's what happened.
And that servant goes out, he finds his brother,
who owes him a small debt, and that debt was three days' wage. And he says, "Pay me what you owe me." And his brother says,
"Please be patient with me." Same words,
please be patient with me and I'll pay everything
I owe you. >> No way. And he sends his brother, he sends him to jail. Well, when the king finds out
about this, he calls that servant back
and calls him a wicked servant. "Didn't I forgive you
everything and you, you couldn't forgive
your brother a small debt?" And then this king says
something that's like Wow, go get all that debt- 5,173 lifetimes of debt and put it back on him.
And then Jesus says this, "And so my heavenly Father
will do to you also, Laurie. If you do not forgive
your brother from your heart," and I understood- this
is what I understood- so I understood all that.
But this is what had happened. You see, when that king
had forgiven this debt that could not be paid.
When he forgave it, he actually took the debt
and gave something. Remember I told you
when I was in Heaven, God said many of the gifts
that He had for me are things that He would give me
and things He would take away. Well, the king
had just done that. He took away a debt, but what he had given this
servant was a heart like his. Now it was true.
It was a small start. And he walks out and gets
his first test. Are you going to be
like that, King? And we find out that instead
of taking the king's heart and letting it grow, being coming more
and more like this king, he just took the canceled debt as if he was mocking the king in the way
the king's life. I understood that's so clear
in hell. I understood that that's what
I had done. What I had done was mock
Jesus. Here, He had forgiven me,
all of this debt, and He tried to give me
this little heart like His, but I wouldn't take
it. I wouldn't forgive, wouldn't
forgive, wouldn't forgive until, finally,
I ended up in hell eternally for unforgiveness.
This was very, very serious. When I was
in my teardrop-shaped cell, all of these stacks of sins- So there isn't really- I have an ocean problem here.
And if you've seen other shows, you understand
that an ocean problem means I'm going to have a really
hard time explaining this. So for lack of
a better understanding, please think of your sins
stacked in this room like a nine by thirteen card. And there were stacks
of these sins that were in there. And
the stacks of sins- The first one that came
into the room was You're not kind.
So, Laurie, you're not kind. And there was this stack, nine
by thirteen stack of sins. And each one was processed, and these first were the sins
that people had done to me. I would not have been in hell if I had forgiven
the stack of sins that had been done to me. And once I had processed
all those, "you're not kind", then the room filled,
this cell filled with all
my unkind acts two ways. My unkind acts for
the sins that I had done, that I had not known I had done, and also the sins for the ones
that I had done knowingly- being unkind. Did you know
that God is watching? He is watching what I'm doing.
He's watching what you're doing. He knows the condition
of your heart. When He forgave me,
when He forgave you; He gave you this little bitty
heart that would be like His. And when Jesus said,
at the end of that parable, "And so my heavenly Father
will do to you also if you don't forgive
your brother from your heart." We should be panicked
right about now. Can you imagine
all that debt? Where did God put it,
you know, when God saved me and separated me from my sin, and He would
remember it no more, He stuck all that sin
in the place where He puts things that He
forgets about, and that is hell. My sin was in hell, and when
I got there, it came back. So the first thing
that I processed was "you're not kind." The second thing I processed
is "you're not gentle." And the third thing
I processed hurt me so, so much. And when we come back from this break,
I'm going to tell you about the one that hurt me more
than any of the rest of them. I'll see you in a minute. [Music] [Music] >> Laurie, Ditto had
fifteen remarkable visions where she was taken to heaven and even firsthand
experienced hell itself. Now she travels around the world
as an evangelist in seer, where she shares
straight from the heart the life-changing
lessons she learned, backing them up with scripture
and biblical truths. Laurie has been called to speak
and prophetically minister to people in matters
of repentance and sin, humility, how unforgiveness
can affect our destiny and how the daily choices
we make can either reflect God's heart
or lead us away from God. Her desire is to see people
escape hell and live out the principles
of heaven here on earth. Through her books
and additional trainings, conferences and church meetings, Laurie works to equip others
to fulfill the Great Commission. Log on to
MyFathersReputation.com where you can find out more
about her ministry, products, watch her videos and much more [Music] LD: And the one that
hurt the absolute most was when all the sins came in about patience. I don't pray for patience. I always heard don't pray
for patience. But when I was in heaven, Jesus was so patient with me. The very first time I was there, when I first
met Him, you know, He wanted me
to give him something and all I would do was say
no and look down thinking God is going to beat me.
But he was so patient. He was so kind.
He was so gentle. I believe that the, that the
sins are categorized in hell, the same as the fruit of the Spirit. And there were sins
that I had done that had counted in those
three categories. >> Let me explain. When I was a young mom,
I wanted to be a good mom and so I wanted
my daughters clean. And every day they had
to take a bath- every day. And every day they had to get
their hair washed so that it had
that very fresh look to it. And they would cry
when they'd get in the bathtub because they were sure I was going to get shampoo
in their eye. Well, first I bought
the baby shampoo. It's not going to hurt
if it gets in your eyes, But I would soap up their hair and somehow that shampoo
seemed to get in their eye because they would not
sit still. And then they got the shampoo in their hair
and I got to get it out and I would put them down
in the water. And now it's a battle.
I'm just trying to get that water- trying to get that
shampoo out of their hair and be crying and everything,
but I made sure my daughters looked good. But God counted it
as a sin three times. You're not kind, you're not gentle, you're not patient. And another sin over here, you caused your children to feel like no one
would listen to them, like they weren't important.
What they needed was not important
to their own mother. Oh God. Car seats.
>> So I try and get my girls
in their car seats. They did not like car seats.
They would fight with me. They didn't want to be
clipped in there. And you know, we drive a long
ways 10, 12 hours to see family. So they knew.
Once you clip them in there, they're going to be in there
a long time. They start crying and try
and fight you and everything. And so I'd have to man handle them. Get them in there - manhandle
and buckle them in. Look at what a great mom I am. >> But it counted as four sins;
you're not kind, you're not patient,
you're not gentle, and you put fear in the heart
of your children because no matter how distraught
they are, you will not listen. God have mercy on me. And if I had just forgiven. If I had just forgiven other people who had hurt me. If I just forgiven. It wasn't that I couldn't. It was that I wouldn't. And as those sins kept stacking up,
one after another- I hated
when I was in hell. How do I know I hate it?
I really hated it. I hated hearing the people
scream, other people scream. I hated people being there.
I filled myself up with hatred. And how was I able to fill
myself up and in hell with hatred? Because I had it
on the earth. I'm not proud of this,
but when I was, when I was younger,
before I was saved, I didn't believe in divorce, but my marriage
was falling apart. And so my answer to that
was Mike just needs to die. What kind of person wishes another person dead? It's called murderous heart. And any time you let that in your life where you wish
somebody else was dead, I don't care what they've done. God doesn't wish
anybody dead. You allow hate, hate in your life
and I filled up with hate. I really was in
the right place and just- what Jesus had said. And just what Jesus had said, "If you will not forgive your brother from your heart, the same thing
will happen to you." I had such a stony heart. I deserved hell. Everybody that's in hell
deserves hell, not because God wants
them there, He doesn't. Because people
will not listen. I want to share with you
the biggest lie. that Satan has done To bring multitudes of people
to hell. Multitudes. It's like, well, if Satan is done and he's able to trick
that many people, what must it be? Now remember, I told you when I was in hell, I was
in an area with my family, but I was also
in an area of hell that believers were in. It's like, no Laurie believers
don't go to hell. Well, then Matthew 18,
when Jesus said You've been
forgiven, but it can all come back,
isn't true. And there were people in hell,
believers just like me. I believe in Jesus Christ.
It wasn't, It wasn't
that I didn't love Him. It was that I didn't
obey him, right? So if you don't love Him,
you don't really obey Him. And I didn't trust Him
because if you trusted Him, you could obey Him. It was pride. I thought I was going
to do it a different way. I thought I knew better
than God. How did that happen? You know, it started out with a
truth that got twisted. What Satan feeds to people
is God is so, so so, so so, so good.
And isn't that true? We can sing songs about
the goodness of God, and they're all true. And if God is so good,
He will never let anybody go to hell. Huh. There's the twist. God's not going to let anybody
go to hell because it changed. Right? It's not that you're
letting yourself go to hell, it's that God would never
let anybody go to hell and and it's true, God never let
anybody go to hell. He sent his son. Jesus Christ
paid the price. He spent all His blood
to purchase me. God never let me go to hell. And so that's the pathway that
Satan gets you to this place. And as I say it, before you
shut off, please hear me out. I mean, I've told this to people
and right away they just shut off. The trick that Satan has, it has a name. It's called once saved,
always saved. And please just give me a couple of minutes
to explain what I saw. Once saved, always saved means this: on the day
that you were saved, God forgave you of all the sin of your
past. That's true. >> On the day that I was saved, God forgave me of all
the sin of my past. Once saved, always saved says
and then you were forgiven of all the sin
you're doing today and all the sin you're
ever going to do. You know what that means? That means that I don't
have to worry about sin It means that I don't have to obey. Let me tell you what
the reality and the facts are, The facts are on
the day that I was saved, I was saved from every sin
I've ever done. We're in agreement there,
100% agreement. And it's true. I understand
that if I will repent, God will forgive me for my sin.
But God has a problem with sin. Always has. Always will. Hell was created for sin.
Satan is in hell. And you think about it.
Satan messes with God. God creates hell
and puts him there. Adam Sins God creates a plan.
He sends His Son, Jesus. But you have to repent
to receive the mercy. And so this once saved always saved,
and then it is an absolute lie that all of this
sin, all of this sin that I've ever done
in the future I don't have to worry about. Oh, don't worry,
you can cheat on your spouse. Oh, don't worry,
you can steal a little bit. Oh, don't worry, you can lie. It's OK. That is a lie. And what we need
to warn everyone about is that the biggest lie
in hell right now, that biggest lie is that,
don't worry, once saved always saved
those people who are in hell, they were never saved at all. That's the
lie. And there were lots of
believers there believing this lie. Don't be one of those people!
Search the scriptures. Find out what's true
and we come back. We're going to talk some more
about this and other things. Thank you. [Music] [Music]>> The alarm is sounding.
Heaven and hell are real. Where will you go? In Laurie Ditto's book,
The Hell Conspiracy, she shares her firsthand
encounters of hell and the painful consequences of
her own sin and unforgiveness. Through these pages, you will
experience the stark terrors of a place where there is
only hatred and no way out. LD: They are six, between
six and seven feet deep. And when I passed through, then all of a sudden
these gates slammed shut. You would not believe
the sound of those gates. It hurts my ears. It hurts my ears to even think
what that sound was. >> These horrors are real. But this book offers
a beacon of hope, providing an escape
from the torment for those who receive
salvation through Jesus. Log on to Laurie Ditto's web
page and get your copy today. [Music] LD: Too much
pain in hell, too many people
who were deceived. And once their
eyes were open, they really knew,
they knew all along, if God is going to hold all
those lost people accountable, of course, He's going
to hold accountable the people in His Church.
Doesn't the scriptures teach us that the judgment of God
will come first to His house? God loves. God loves. He made a way. There's no reason
for any person to be in hell. He loves. It's Satan who hates.
Satan, who hates and wants to take you to hell so
that he can hurt God. Let me read for us.
Luke 16:24-31 says, This is Jesus talking. "Then he cried and said, Father Abraham have mercy on me
and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip
of his finger in the water and cool my tongue for
I'm tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember in your lifetime
you received your good things and likewise Lazarus
evil things. But now he is comforted and you are tormented. And besides all this
between you and us, there is a great gulf fixed so that those who want
to pass from here to you cannot, nor can
those from there pass to us. And then he said,
I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him
to my father's house for I have five brothers
that he may testify to them lest they all come
to this place of torment. I just want to
give you my theory. I want to be sure
that I'm telling you that this is my theory. But when I was in hell, I was consumed
with hatred. It's what's there. I wasn't concerned
about anybody else. You know, I didn't want
people to come to hell? Because I didn't want
to share in their pain. I didn't want
all those people's sins to be
a part of this place. That's why I believe
this man said, Go get my brothers. It wasn't because he loved
his brothers so much. I think it was because he didn't want any more pain in his life.
Now that is my theory. I didn't want one more person
to come to hell. And what was so upsetting about it
was, while I was there, I was watching hell expand. It was growing. It was, it was being renovated for
lack of a better understanding because a day
is coming when multitudes of people
are going to go to hell. Did you know there is
a great Did you know, there's a great
great falling away, getting ready to come. At the same time, there's going
to be a great harvest, but there's
a great falling away. You have been, You have to have been saved
so that you can fall away. Those people are coming
from the Church. Sound an alarm! Warn
the Church! Judgment will come first to the House of
God. We need help. We need so much help. Somebody say something! It's not popular
what I'm saying. I love you. I love people.
I'll tell them the truth. I'll tell them
what Jesus told me. I'll tell them
what I read here because people are going to hell.
All kinds of people. What sin is going
to take you to hell? The list goes
on and on and on. Do you lie? Do you cheat? Do you steal? Are you stuck in some
sort of sexual immorality? Are you having sex
before you get married? Are you having sex
with the same sex partner? Are you cheating on your spouse
once you're married? All that is called sexual sin. Do you know none of that
is going to heaven. None. None, none.
And I'm not here to judge you. I'm not the judge.
I'm just here to warn you. The scriptures teach him
we preach warning every man. Go warn every man. Go warn
every woman, warn every child before it's too late. And it's not long. It's not long
before it's too late. Let me read you a few scriptures
as we're wrapping up here. We need to know this.
Matthew 10:28 says, "Don't fear those
who can kill the body and are not able
to kill the soul. Rather, fear him who is able
to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Luke 19:10, "For The Son of Man has come to seek and save
the lost. 1 John 3:8, "The Son of God was revealed
for this purpose, to destroy
the work of the devil." That's what Jesus has come for.
Jesus came to save us. To save me.
He came to save you. You need to make sure
you're really saved. Make sure you're saved.
Your life depends on knowing
what this Word says. Don't trust it to
just anybody. Amen. [Music]
