TheOdd1sOut + JaidenAnimations Chat on How to Up Your Animation Game!

you all actually have quite unique styles but but obviously you will animate uh to for like the sake of efficiency because you make these massive 10-minute animations um and so you uh you try to keep your designs quite minimal but yet they are still quite unique and stand out so how did you get there like what was the evolution of your styles to get you there obviously it was a play to efficiency um i was doing freelance all day when i first started on youtube and it was my free time that i was trying to put out youtube videos so the want to put out more and more and more that kind of incited i need to really simplify this character design to get out more but i still really love you know human proportions a feeling of weight and depth and balance in a drawing so it kind of like i kind of utilize a lot of you know human proportions and very strong storytelling poses in mind even though it's a relatively simple shape i think that just came from my personal preference as an artist and what i personally love to draw and what's easy for me to draw thanks rebecca so having like a very simplistic character design will will save you a bunch of time because with animation you have to redraw the the person over and over again and it is very tedious but another thing that i found um i was drawing some cartoons as i do and i was coloring them and i was just thinking that how monotonous it was and how that it's like why am i spending so much time like coloring this i could probably get other people to color it for me and then i can save a lot of time just teach them so i've brought on a team of people that helps color and do backgrounds that um and also doing some other animated frame by frame stuff i know not everyone here has a team but that is a way that i can save time uh by getting people that getting people to do the the stuff that is tedious you know that other people can uh just having a team of people is what i and it's still your creative vision right and that's because you know you're acting as a director in that position and that's what directors do is they direct the visual style and they direct the audience's eye so it is it's still your vision even though you know james and jane have staff so yeah that's just to get videos out quicker because otherwise it would take years to make a video yeah yeah uh this style i i didn't start with like a specific style people always say like oh how did you develop your art style and it's like i don't know i just did it um i think a lot of people focus too much on art style when it's just like well what makes you feel comfortable and also what you like uh so i didn't have like a style i was going for i just like drew the way i wanted to um and then yeah eventually videos were being like taking a lot of time and i was getting like way too overworked with just working by myself so i reached out to help uh it took a while to get like a good team going for a while it was like worse because they were like doing scenes and i was like it doesn't look good and i'd have to redo it anyway but i think the team that i've got right now is really good and uh i think the videos have been looking the best they ever have been and i've also got more free time so that's that's good the way i developed my art style is basically i mean it started off with just a circle stick figure body and eyes it just started developing because i uh kind of started taking inspiration from the uh the odd ones out i said the and i was like no taking inspiration from the shows i like like uh adventure time uh really just love their art style it's super silly so um i mean yeah that's that's it that's all i gotta say um james you just touched on uh you and jayden both talked about your your teams uh i think a lot of people in audience would be very interested to know like the kind of processes that you guys go through to make a video from like start to finish and obviously a lot of you all have very different processes um you know some of you work solo some you work with the team so uh if whichever of you feel comfortable talking about that like what's the what's the journey that goes from idea to upload all right well i don't know how much time we have so no you're right it is right okay what was i saying um so from start to finish it actually takes longer than a month or a video to be done so i'm trying out this new thing where i'm like juggling two videos at once so i'll while i'm working on a video i'll write up a script record the audio and then edit the audio while i get someone else to edit anyway and then i while i'm working on another video i get some story borders to storyboard out the video and then i'll also do some of the storyboards and then i'll like tell the storyboarders like no i don't like this or yes i do like this um and then while also i'm still working on a video then i'll get some background artists to start making the backgrounds and then hopefully i'll have that video finished and then then i can start working on the next video and then while i'm doing that start writing the script up for the next next video it's just and so it just takes a lot of time um and then i you know draw the pictures so it's like it's script audio storyboard backgrounds characters upload is it is it roughly what does that make it three videos roughly in production no it's like two two okay so it's like i finish one then i have another one then when i finish one then i'm like halfway through the next one so yeah uh so for what i do is i write the i take a day to write a script um and then i have like friends uh edit it and be like oh you should add this one and it's like yeah that actually makes it funny and then i'll record it and have someone edit the audio because it's a long process and editing audio is really boring um and then while that's happening i'll write a task list so what happens is like i'll say like from frame like from frame 1 to 200 that's when the jaden is walking down the street or something and then that's so when i send the whole task list of the video i'll the animators will know like oh this scene is jaden walking down the street so i'll storyboard that and um so we have like different categories like one person will grab the storyboard and another person will do the keyframes and one person will do the in-betweens so it's like a like a process so every scene like three different people have worked on it and i'll i do like storyboards and in betweens i mean storyboards and keyframes i don't really do the in-betweens but that's the process for and then near the end when it's just in-betweeners kind of thing i'll work on the next video so it's a cycle yeah it's a lot of juggling adam and i just wing it that's fair um yeah well you talked a little about about keyframes so these are like technical terms within an animation so who who wants to explain animation to our lovely crowd here go on don't ask the person who has the bfa in animation enough to explain animation sure no absolutely animation [Music] so in in animation you have incredibly important poses in what you're doing and that can be like wow oh yeah yeah demonstration so if i'm trying to have a character point off screen about something i think a keyframe would be here and then a keyframe would be here so it goes pop pop and in betweens are what you do in between those frames to get the timing right so if i have a lot of frames it's going to be a much slower action if i have a lot of i have a short amount of frames it's going to be very quick and it all depends on what kind of acting you want so you have people who are going to be planning out the most important poses this to this like what jayden does and then you have other animators come in and they're the ones that kind of fill in the gaps with this timing right here so that's what we're talking about when we say keyframes and in between yeah what do you use to animate okay i was going to explain something a little bit longer but uh here's a little tip for all the people that are trying to learn um you can find a lot of information about what a youtuber does in their about page or their frequently asked question page there's okay well so just i i get asked this a lot and i'm just like check my about page um so tom remember how you said that you animated in powerpoint it's kind of what i do i draw everything out in this one program called pain tool sci and then animate it animate it and then an adobe premiere so it's very much just still a slideshow and everyone else uses flash which is the more proper animation program so that is what i would recommend it would be flash not what i use it's not the tool it's the end product that's that's another thing is that people always think that like oh i need the same equipment that this person uses because that will make my videos better it's like it's not the equipment we use isn't isn't what makes the the videos good it's like that it's us that make the video yeah it's like if you have a calculator like you could use the most ranking calculator to do anything but if you have like a giant scientific calculator but you don't know any of the functions it's like yeah exactly exactly are there any like tips that you would give people who are just now trying to start out making cartoons or even drawing maybe just do it just practice like also look at tutorials online tutorials are great but like i tell everybody and this is a very famous quote by a disney artist um walt stanchfield i think he says everyone has 10 000 bad drawings in them and it's important to get them out as soon as possible so you will fill mountains of sketchbooks with bad drawings before you start to get comfortable with your abilities so just get through those 10 000 bad drawings that's how you start i'm still working on the 10 000 no one's gonna start out being good that's not how it works so you all have to start out on 4-0 and then work your way up to good if that makes sense yeah it definitely takes like i think it stops a lot of people on youtube uh who want to do animation or some sort of art thing is they're like oh i want the first video to be the best thing and that's not gonna happen like look at all of our first videos it didn't happen it's just it's about like posting it and getting past yourself and just keep going at it because you're going to improve whether you like it or not it sounds cliche but it's true yeah what whoa no dabbing on my stage sorry moderators i mean yeah just do it i mean the only person stopping yourself from succeeding is yourself so just continue to do what you like practice makes perfect 100 was uh like copying other art styles or tracing anything that you found yourself doing a lot of and i think and i say this knowing that it's very a very natural thing that um that i think is a necessary part of growing and developing your own style but is that something that you did and if so would you be comfortable saying what i had a book um as a kid called how to draw animals and i disregarded all the information i disregarded all the information and just traced everything but that was when i was like seven or eight so i think it helped me develop the motor skills and like hand-eye coordination to be able to like draw lines in a way that i wanted to um just to like gain that skill i haven't like traced anything digitally or like for my career i think that's a bit of a sketchy path at least like when you're more developed but i think tracing is a really important part about art especially it's good to practice yeah yeah as long as you don't try and pass it off as yourself but as a kid i did try to pass off the tracing of like a cheetah and i was like mom look at this and she's like oh yeah i totally got raised when i started i was actually a fan of this comic called loading artist and he had these characters with white skin and like little sticks for arms and like very simplistic designs and so when i first started i actually had like characters with clothing and hair but i was spending so much time drawing them that and no one was reading the comics so i was like you know i want to take a couple of steps back and go with a way more simplistic design so i took inspiration from the loading artist guy shout out to loading artist if he's watching this um and and i went with a white skin instead of like little stick arms i had bubble arms you know or little i don't know what to call them but uh so i i did like sort of take inspiration from that simplistic design from him but i i've kind of evolved it and made it more of my own do any of you have any tips on you know once you've done that once you've started you know just taking little bits and bats from people you like how do you then start developing that into your own unique style what takes you from i'm tracing the odd ones out to now i'm you know something else youtube obviously you need to take inspiration to like start on a path but once you get into like after a while you start developing maybe even just subconsciously putting your own personal spin on it and the more you like push yourself into like oh maybe i want to do this instead of like what is so-and-so doing i think it comes very naturally just experiment with your art yeah yeah yeah that's all that's it someone else take the thing and what i what i find is what separates a lot of us is what we personally think is visually appealing to us like what we think looks visually right for us like i can look at any one of their styles and say yeah that's perfect they they have their visual style down but i can't physically make myself implement what they do into what i do because this is what i want my artwork to look like and i think that's what is the unique thumbprint that each of us have on our own styles is that uh james's you know powerpuff girl arms that's what it's that's what they should be called yeah little sandbag arms that's what's appealing and useful for his version of storytelling and his jokes and and his um condensing and simplifying and same thing with jaden and adam and what's useful from for my uh my storytelling is you know the human body proportions and the you know the very you know out there strong storytelling poses the very chuck jonesy storytelling poses and that's just what we personally love to see in our own artwork so if you start seeing something that you particularly like in what you're drawing and you start leaning towards that embrace that because that's where your own style is starting to kick in you know yeah there's like the one quote of like uh to be like art is just everyone so many people ripped off that it becomes your own thing so okay well the last thing i think we should do is go down the line and just throw out a little something for each person in this audience who you know what would you what would you like to say to them if they want to be you well one don't be them be you but if they want to do it i know we kind of touched on this but is there anything that you'd like to pass on to the youth and hairy old among us okay well i just want to say that i truly believe that anyone in this audience can be a youtuber it's there's not some secret ingredient it's if you just have the determination and the time i guess then you can anyone can make youtube videos and grow an audience and any single one of you can be up on this stage i'm next to tom yeah if you want to do something just do it kind of thing shia labeouf just do it sounds cliche but that's all we got yeah it sounds very generic and anyone could be saying this but it's also because it's true you could say it to yourself and it's yeah get a mirror just do it well i would say go into it with absolute sincerity make the video make videos you would want to watch uh don't go into it trying to chase numbers or just like make something you think is popular from what you've observed make the stuff that you were that excites you to make and it would excite you to watch yeah and because sincerity sincerity is just well i mean i don't know what this is but that at a lot of those youtube talks and stuff like that they teach you to like follow trends look at your analytics do this but i think just make what you want to make be as a be as you as you can be because i mean you can only be as you as as much as you are but like i don't know authenticity is just a really awesome thing seeing on youtube especially since everyone nowadays is just kind of trying to follow a trend trends are all temporary they don't they don't all last forever i say if you're if you're going to go into it do it because you love doing it well you guys are walking proof that there is more to youtube than just following the algorithm with just dropping that daily content you can release quality content irregularly infrequently and and still make a name for yourself and there's still a place for that on on the site so that's awesome well with that i'm going to say thank you again to my lovely panelists give them a little cheeky clap thank you guys for coming and uh enjoy the rest of your vidcon bye everyone thank you thank you [Applause] [Music] you

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Published: Tue Apr 09 2019