The Walking Dead Iceberg Explained

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Hell yeah! Can't wait to watch this!

👍︎︎ 8 👤︎︎ u/kammerer1993 📅︎︎ Sep 01 2021 🗫︎ replies

10:55 - I think there were probably a few very bloated zombies wandering the prison after eating Lori's remains. The bones probably got carried off with random zombies. There were a lot of dead wandering the prison and they are not going to be iffy about the food they fin. A whole corpse with no chance of turning and become 'inedible' to them? year, it wouldn't take long for the dead to make a body disappear.

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/nickytheginger 📅︎︎ Sep 01 2021 🗫︎ replies

In the later tiers some of the theories really disturbed me and changed my view of the complete series.

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/w0lf1_jstn 📅︎︎ Sep 01 2021 🗫︎ replies
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hello everybody and welcome to the walking dead iceberg and this is the first iceberg that i've made for the channel for this video i wanted the themes to be hidden easter eggs secret theories about the show or just cool facts that not a lot of people know about that being said a big inspiration was lazy mobile 1806 which they made one of the best icebergs i've seen and not only did i take a lot of inspiration and topics from that one they were also very helpful to me on reddit when i had a couple questions about the topics within the iceberg so show them some love if you can a couple things of note off the bat there will be no big spoilers past season 9 of the show so if you're still watching or care about spoilers after that that's as far as i'm going to cover there's a couple things that are in season 10 but there are no way plot spoilers they're pretty much just background elements that i'm gonna make a point out of and secondly there's one topic in tier three that despite me putting it in my own iceberg i'm gonna take it out for the video it's michonne's negan hallucination and while it's an interesting part of the show after research i kind of decided there wasn't really a ton to talk about so i'm just gonna cut it i am excited to talk about what is in my opinion the coolest parts of the show itself and what made the series so great especially in the beginning also if it's been a while since you've seen the show or you're just vaguely interested in it i try to cater the iceberg in a way that it starts with concepts that most people who have a general idea of what the show's about could get a hold of but as we go further down it's going to get more hairy and you know what else is hairy you probably i don't know but you know what can get you to quit being hairy or continue to not be that's right today's sponsor manscaped i've been using manscape since their first sponsorship i did with them which was one of the first ones on my channel and i've got to say 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much everyone for watching the ad thank you so much to manscape for sponsoring this video it really does mean the most and thank you for the t-shirt it's quite comfortable i hope you all get in on this and check out the link in the description i hope that you enjoyed the ad and we are back to the video i'm excited so without further ado let's get into it but as always thank you for watching also i realize i probably should have put titles to these tiers now um but it's too late now so tier one glenn never killed until season six is just a fact in plain sight that not a lot of people notice not killing was a big part of glenn's character because especially as the show went on and the characters began to be more and more degraded from where they once began glenn was always sort of hailed as this picture of purity like he was the nerd who used to play video games and delivered pizza and then it became the young romantic and he was sort of an outlet for the hopes of a lot of the characters and what's interesting about the way the show structured when his first kill did come in season 6 episode 12. the fact that it was his first kill was kind of overshadowed by the fact that this is just what the group does now i remember watching the episode for the first time and his first kill is the guy who's asleep in the savior compound and you can see glenn struggling to bring the knife down and whenever i watched that for the first time i thought oh well it's because he's never killed someone asleep before and then i thought about it afterwards and said wow he's never killed anyone before and also spoilers again but i mentioned that at the beginning by the time of his death he had only ever killed five people to put that in perspective at the time of glenn's death carol daryl and rick had 46 49 and 54 human kills respectively i'm gonna talk more in a bit how character themes and a loss of innocence applies to the greater show at large but we'll get to that space for is in reference to the fact that robert kirkman has said the original cause of the zombie virus or sorry walker virus was a spore that came to earth from a meteorite now he said this specifically about the comics but since that's the canon way apparently that it went in the comics and the show never says i mean we can pretty much assume and that can even be used to get over some gaps in understanding like for example if this is just a disease how can people be a disembodied head and still be alive so the answer is simply space aliens and that's all there is to it of course this is never said in the comics and tv show and frankly i don't really want it to be but the fact that he said that was a reference to the movie knight of the living dead in which in that movie which several hill is the first zombie movie of all time it was also a space for that caused the infection so a reference that robert kirkman threw in because as we're going to see he really likes his references jeffrey demon's departure all right so just starting off with the good stuff jeffrey demand is the actor who plays dale in the first two seasons of the show if you recognize him on the show it's probably from movies like the mist or the green mile and actually looking at the myth specifically you're going to see a lot of familiar faces between it and the walking dead the reason for this is because the walking dead originally hired the head writer and show lead of frank darabon and frank darabon and jeffrey demand are very close friends in real life so whenever frank got the show he got several of his previous actors who have worked with him including jeffrey to come on so you know how a lot of people say that the first season of the walking dead is what really sold it and after that it kind of just fizzled for a while and then had its high parts but nothing really compared to that opening well my argument for that would be that frank darabon knew what he was doing he wanted the show to be grand and have these overarching themes of the human condition and how it all relates back to the story of rick and his family and a lot of the clever foreshadowing and setups we see for things that happen later in the series began in those first six episodes however whenever it came time for season two to come around amc said that they didn't want to spend as much money this is the reason that season one is set in these massive cityscapes with these huge hordes everywhere and then season two mostly takes place on a farm with two characters on screen at a time frank darebon protested this because he was like you want me to make a good show and you have the money for it why can't i have more to which amc just kicked him out and i mean looking at frank derebot's you know career i mean what this guy directed the shawshank redemption in the green mile it's not like he knows how to adapt a story or anything so frank did season one and then the first episode of season two before leaving that's where jeffrey comes in see dale is a huge role in the comic books as a matter of fact for a long time he remains as the group sort of moral compass before being killed by the hunters which on the tv show is pretty close to what terminus became so in other words he was supposed to last a really long time the reason he did it on the show it's widely believed is because they got rid of his friend frank and the fact that immediately after the walking dead frank and jeffrey started a new series is kind of proof of that we're gonna talk about what his plans for the show was later on but man like why a mess or your movie sucks did a really good video in his walking dead review where he talks all the specifics of it it is frustrating coma theory is saying that the entirety of the tv show is taking place in rick's head while he's still in a coma the theory says that things like he shouldn't be able to survive in the hospital for that long and this entire show is rick's walk through purgatory and in some instances even goes into detail to say things like all of the gang that we see in the show is just the hospital staff coming around that he's incorporating into the stream of his so the whole it was all a dream thing because if dallas didn't ruin it enough the internet definitely will the telephone scene is a series of four phone calls that rick has in season three between episodes five and six after lori's death a phone rings in the desolate prison to which when answering it he's greeted by the voice of amy and then after that in order jim jackie and laurie all four being members of rick's group who have previously died whenever rick is talking to them they're very vague about their location that they are at but just say things like we're safe away from them no one's been bit no one's died etc which of course as we figure out once we learn that these are four dead people we're talking to is all in reference to the afterlife however what's interesting is that this doesn't devolve into your stereotypical oh you should join us rick join us or whatever and instead by the end of the phone call lori essentially tells rick to man up and take care of their children i'm not going to talk about what that may mean just yet but keep that scene in mind and then in a scene that took place moments before the telephone scene we have lori's body so if you'll remember in season three lori gives birth to judith and then is killed by carl so that way she doesn't turn and then whenever rick clears the prison to find her body we see that there's nobody there at all and instead a trail of blood leads to a bloated walker implying that the walker ate her body entirely now this is strange for several reasons for one that is a lot for one walker to eat and for two how did it manage to eat her entire skeleton and we know from the hair around the walker's mouth as well as the bloated stomach of it that rick tries to cut open that that is indeed the implication we're supposed to get it turns out that in the original script rick walks into the room and there is instead a picked clean skeleton just covered in blood lying next to this walker however amc made them pump the brakes on that because you know like showing zombies get stabbed in the head is fine but a skeleton whoa whoa it would have been pretty brutal to be fair for rick to come find his wife and it's just like a red skeleton laid out on the floor so they just filmed the scene exactly as it was supposed to be but without the skeleton on the floor which led to the fan theory that the walker ate her bones so there's a comforting thought we are now on to tier 2. breaking bad is in reference to the fact that it's basically confirmed that breaking bad and the walking dead take place in the same universe evidence of this is stuff like merle dixon has blue crystal meth on his motorcycle which is the meth that heisenberg makes in breaking bad in a conversation between daryl and beth daryl alludes to the fact that he used to know jesse pinkman also from breaking bad and between the two shows several of the same props or at least the same style of proper jews like the dodge that glenn drives out of atlanta as well as a coffee machine seen in the governor's office this is also led to a fan theory that the original cause of the infection was the blue crystal meth which i have to say i like more than the space for thing the orange backpack is a bit more of a symbolic easter egg if you'll remember in season three there is a scene where rick is driving with some of the group by a hitchhiker on the side of the road who has a very large orange backpack we see at the beginning of the episode as the group is driving away that he is screaming asking for their help and then at the end of the episode they see his dead body to which in a rather cold manner they stop the vehicle take his backpack put it in the car and drive away now we've seen that backpack pop up more times on the show but when specifically have we while one of them was in season 4 whenever glenn leaves the prison after the governor's attack and then eventually runs into tara and decides to take her in another time in later seasons is whenever carl goes to see sadiq and essentially offers him aid and eventually takes him in to me the backpack has always been a symbol of mercy or basically there was an unnamed person on the side of the road who just wanted help and then after he dies the group takes his supplies and drives off and as the group itself learns to be more trusting we see that backpack or the remembrance of how they used to be show up whenever they extend an olive branch so in my watching every time you see an orange backpack on the show it's a sign of trust in someone else or at least trust that they won't you know kill you which is saying a lot for the show opening tidal decay is a fact that again is right in front of your face that a lot of people just don't notice from season one it looked like the title was white or sort of like a pale fresh body and then throughout the seasons the title has become more and more decayed like a walker itself and then finally in the most recent season there is a sort of green growth on it symbolic of new life growing into the dead world well maybe a little bit heavy-handed they never directly talk about this other than just showing you the title so i think it's fine the phrase a or b has sparked a lot of questions once it's figured out in the show that jadis the leader of the scavengers is making contact with the helicopter people and i know they have a better name but i'm just going to keep calling the helicopter people it's revealed that she's been giving survivors to the helicopter people in exchange for supplies now over the radio she tells the helicopter people that she has an a whenever she kidnaps negan and we see that she has negan tied up and it appears tries to turn him into a walker by having another walker bite him and then after rick washes up on shore and the helicopter people are coming to get jadis she tells them referring to rick that it's not an a but she has a b to take with her so it seems like a means people who are bitten and b means people who are not bitten since whenever she had negan tied up and was trying to get him to turn she referred to him as an a and whenever rick wasn't bit and was fine she referred to him as a b but there's a wrench in that one jadis tries to get father gabriel to come with her to the helicopter people's base and whenever gabriel refuses jadis angrily replies and this whole time i thought you were a bee before also tying him up and then trying to do the whole bite thing that she was doing to negan so the whole bitten or not bitten thing doesn't make sense cause how could you be like oh and this whole time i thought you weren't bitten like in my opinion and this is just my speculation the theory i came up with a refers to a prisoner and b refers to a passenger or basically she has to take someone with her back to the base so she was telling gabriel this whole time i thought you were gonna come with me willingly but now i've got to tie you up and take you possibly infected or restrained in some way at least so a and b means prisoner and passenger and i have no further evidence so we'll just move on rise of the governor is a series of novels written by robert kirkman that is about the governor coming to power within woodbury he gives some interesting clues about the governor like for example his name isn't philip that's actually the name of his dead brother and he just took it on for himself and it follows him and his daughter penny from the initial outbreak up until where the comic ends while telling some stories from the comics from the governor's point of view not a lot to say about this one but it's interesting that one of the best villains on the show has an entire series of books about him that not a lot of people know about negan intro refers to the fact that the version that most people saw on television is incredibly censored and not in blood they kept all that in i mean the swearing if while listening to jeffrey dean morgan give the entire negan speech it felt kind of weird that he wasn't going all out with the bad guy um that's because he wasn't going all out in the original recording jeffrey dean morgan drops 23 f-bombs which of course amc was not cool with putting on the air so you can find the original uncensored version on youtube and the dvd edition and then on television they just dubbed over nearly all of that similarly the line from earlier in the show whenever rick and the group are held in the terminus cart and rick says the phrase they're messing with the wrong people that was also dubbed over you can figure out what he said originally andrea season 4 is another one of those interesting writer things so in the original script versions of the show andrea was supposed to survive through season 3 and take over woodbury as their new leader meaning that there would be two separate groups rather than what happened where the citizens of woodbury simply come over to the prison not only that but andrea has a much bigger role in the comics eventually becoming a love interest for rick so why didn't that happen well three weeks before shooting began laurie holden the actress who plays andrea was told hey we're gonna kill ya and in a move that has been protested heavily since they decided to redo all that and kill off her character for shock value this started in my opinion a very dangerous precedent for the show so we get it to zombie series we get the people can die at any time that's understood but since it's also a story it would be nice if characters had things like you know arcs and meaning and you know like importance and a common thing you'll hear from a lot of people who worked on the show is that the plans that they had set up to be these big grand conclusions to storylines were often changed or altered because they were like hey you know what people wouldn't expect if we ruined this storyline by killing this character and there wasn't a lot anyone could do so andrea's death in the finale of season three when she was originally planned to develop into a much stronger character similar to the likes of carol is one of the earliest evidences of that now that's not saying every change that they made wasn't good because we're going to talk about some of the good ones later but i mean that's got to be annoying to set up all these characters and plot lines and then they're just like hey what if you didn't we are now on to tier three helicopters have always been an interesting sort of thing that's been happening in the background of the show it became more obvious later with characters like i mentioned jadis and the aforementioned helicopter people but there's always been weird signs of them like helicopters have been seen in the skyline all the way back in season two not only that but after mysterious disappearances of characters like heath and then tara finding a car that has ppp written on it are all alluding to the fact that there's a bigger world happening around our group there's been several theories about where the helicopters come from a lot of them relate back to that lady named georgie remember the one who just showed up in a van to hilltop and then gave them a bunch of diagrams to make windmills then left that was weird but the main theory is that all these helicopters are operating as a sort of enclave unit that work as the remnants of the us government lydia the tattooed lady is like the breaking bad thing i mentioned earlier only in a much more metaphorical sense so in the series finale of breaking bad which i'm not going to spoil it for you but there's a scene where walter white answers a phone that's ringing and the ringtone is an old song known as lydia the tattooed lady this is also the song that it's shown alpha sung to her child which she named lydia not only is this the same song being used on both shows but again not to spoil breaking bad too much they both relate to the idea of villainy or at least nefariousness in some sense and an overarching theme of redemption so the fact that alpha named her child lydia through the same song is the sort of correlation line scene between the two shows of the bad becoming better daryl alludes to sophia is in reference to the fact that daryl accidentally called it in season two episode three during the period of time where sophia went missing in season two and the group was out looking for andrea tells daryl that she's probably dead to which daryl snaps back and said she's probably held up in a farmhouse somewhere which oh boy was she and it's just sort of a quick easter egg that most people don't notice until their second time through the show and also just side note the story herschel gave about sophia getting into the barn was totally stupid like he claims otis did it before he died but otis did not climb up there with a walker sofia by herself and then flip her into the barn and then everyone that like threw food to them afterwards didn't notice or otis never mentioned it my theory is that sophia was running to hide from walkers and then sought shelter in the barn and then that's how she got bit and would explain like her decayed state like she got bit once and got away and turned um which is a depressing thought but anyway walker d comp is the fact that as the show has progressed the walkers have got more and more decomposed like think about this way in season 1 they pretty much just look like people with sunken in eyes and pale faces and then now you look in season 10 and the majority of walkers you find are skeletons with a little bit of hair on them this calls back to the thing that milton mentioned in season 3 of the show where he said that the walkers do in fact starve it's just really really slowly and as the show has gone on the walkers have went from more agile and quick to slowly lumbering or just crawling in some cases so this implies that one day the infection could end if the walkers simply die out or at the very least are unable to move anymore which is probably the only hopeful theory on this entire iceberg so let's change that rick is the villain this is a different theory of how one could approach the show instead of looking at it as a story of survival to look at it as a tale of downfall basically it's like this rick's group has come across several other groups and every time they've ended up killing them for the greater good now in the beginning this was always because they were attacked and it was always a form of self-defense but as the show went on they got a lot more offensive with their defensive measures to the point where whenever the group met the saviors for the first time they just got told by hilltop hey there's these guys that are bullying us so rick just goes and kills a bunch of them the idea is from an objective point of view rick is the bad guy of somebody else's story and the only reason that we view the group as the quote-unquote good guys is because we're familiar with them and as the show has shown every character even people like negan have a sympathetic backstory and if we were with them from the beginning we'd probably view them as our protagonist so maybe not so much that rick himself is the bad guy but that in this world everyone's got to be the bad guy and on that bright note we are on to tier 4. carol's comic book death is the thing i talked about earlier when i said some of the changes actually turned out kind of good so remember how i mentioned that dale and andrea didn't die in the comics for a really long time but died earlier in the show or carol's the other way around in the comics carol commits suicide by letting herself be bit by a walker see in the comics her character is made to show the links of sorrow that someone can reach in this world like she's not a great mother to sophia and she's very reliant on everyone and she eventually takes her own life while also putting the group at risk whereas in the show she's a sign of how much someone can rise to be within this world by learning to get over the death of her child and then becoming a strong warrior this is very similar i feel personally to norman reedus and daryl the fact that they had a character that was initially going to be a quick throwaway and then the show writers went i think we may be on to something here and i'm glad that carol stuck in the round on the show however there is a second reason that she's on the iceberg at this point whenever she gets bit by that walker in the comics she has the fastest turning rate i believe ever seen throughout the walking dead becoming a walker in a matter of seconds after dying on the show it's incredibly varied how long it takes someone to turn so the fact that we've never really been given a solid time frame and in the comics carol turned after a few seconds raises more questions about this disease but now we'll talk about it a bit you know what it is is a cryptic line spoken to morgan in season six short version is there is a prisoner at the hilltop that the whole gang is worried about who is eventually killed by morgan's apprentice henry this drives morgan to a sort of madness because his whole spirit at the time was to never kill anyone so it hurt him to see his apprentice take a life especially at such a young age so after this morgan began seeing that dead guy telling him these phrases like you were supposed to and the phrase you know what it is now this has never been explained as to what that saying itself means however we do hear morgan uttering those phrases to himself and similar phrases whenever he's with eastman eastman you'll remember is the sort of guru guy who taught morgan how to use a staff now in my opinion you know what it is is a conversation that morgan has with himself and this has been reaffirmed by the actor who plays morgan as a means of grounding himself in reality that whenever morgan sees these apparitions around him he tells himself you know it's not real you know you're still here you were supposed to i believe is in reference to what happened to morgan's wife and his son but similar to the telephone scene this is another instance of a character having a supernatural or hallucinatory flashback sequence in which the character gains some manner of introspection uh keep your mind on that one beta is a celebrity means that beta within the show is a famous person and no not like the actor who plays beta like beta the big whisper is actually supposed to be a prominent figure within the world of the walking dead within the comics it said that beta before the apocalypse was a famous basketball player who became a famous actor so michael jordan and it's implied within the show that beta is a famous singer this is also supported by the fact that one of the whispers recognizes him whenever he sees vader's face and as another added easter egg there's a scene at hilltop where they're listening to a record being sung by a country singer the person singing on that record is ryan hurst the actor who plays beta so within the show on the walking dead they are listening to a song that beta recorded before the world fell apart and now beta is one of the whispers they're fighting which it would be wild if you were in like the zombie apocalypse and then you rip off this dead walker person's face and it's luke bryan or something noah's death scene is the death of character noah in season 5 episode 14. now a lot of people glossed over what was being said between noah and glenn in his death mostly because everyone including myself was just furious with nicholas at the time but if you'll remember it's the scene within the revolving doors where nicholas pushes his way out allowing noah to be grabbed by walkers dragged out and then killed in a very brutal on-screen death in those final moments noah and glenn are grabbing on to each other to which noah looks in glenn's face and says don't let go before being dragged away and eaten by walkers on the surface level it just sounds like noah was telling lin to quite literally do not let go of me before glenn was overpowered and all was dragged away however in reading the screenplay for it it's a lot more depressing than that see in the screenplay noah is the one who lets go of glenn and the phrase don't let go was metaphorical to glenn reminding him to just be strong and brave out this world so therefore noah's death in that moment was a sacrifice play so that the door could be shut back and glenn could survive this would explain noah's calm demeanor and tone whenever he says that phrase too glenn so now go back and watch that scene thinking about that little factoid and try not to be sad the actor tyler williams who played noah actually collapsed crying on set after they filmed that scene because he thought it was such a perfect way for his character to go out sacrificing himself to make sure that glenn could live tainted meat is in reference to that scene in season 5 episode 3 whenever bob's leg is being eaten by the people of terminus man if you hadn't kept up with the show until that point that had to be a wild sentence to hear but basically bob is attacked by cannibals and captured and whenever he wakes up they're eating his leg to which bob begins laughing and tells them that right before they grabbed kidnapped him and then cut off his legs he had been bitten by a walker and he began screaming the phrase tainted meat saying that now they're all going to become walkers because he was bitten so this causes the terminus group to freak out and launch an emergency attack to get revenge on rick's group and then rix ends up killing all of them so that means the question was never answered were they actually at risk of turning because they ate the quote-unquote tainted meat according to robert kirkman you cannot become infected in the walking dead by committing cannibalism against someone who was bitten again that's also a weird sentence out of context but anyway meaning that the death of the termites and everything that happened to them was a complete farce the entire tainted meat thing was meaningless and even if unknowingly bob pulled a stunt fake out that caused the terminus crew to be killed by rick's group again just another interesting way to look at the show radio hallucinations is another one of those sort of supernatural moments that takes place during tyrese's death so tyrese sees several apparitions of previously dead characters come to him as he's dying and the final one being the radio within the car that is reading out a news report first of all the voice in the radio that is talking is andrew lincoln so that's interesting but what's even more interesting is what the radio is saying tyrese hears the radio mention a village being attacked by knight by machetes children being killed in the streets a burnt prison as well as cannibal attacks now in the real world it's believed that this is audio from the rwandan genocide however it has implications within the show since all four of those things are things that tyrese has seen the group do up until this point see the significance of the radio and the reason that the actual scene with it is so meaningful for tyrese's death is earlier in the episode tyrese mentions that when he was a boy his dad used to make him listen to the bad things or what the bad people were doing on the radio because it would make him tougher and more ready to face the world and in his final moments as tyrese is hearing the radio his last words are turn it off or essentially he understands that the world's a bad place but he wants off the ride while a beautiful moment it can also imply how tyree sees the actions that he's had to go through or in other words all the events that we heard on the radio of these different attacks that our group has done to him are just seen as more violence and when put through that lens it seems that tyrese has had to live the life of the evil people on the radio that his dad once warned him of so once again on that very fun note we are on to tier v wolves not far is talking about the wolves remember them the villains from season five and like half of season six they were hinted at beforehand whenever the group would come across graffiti as well as dead bodies with a w carved into them and members of the wolves themselves have the w etched across their forehead while never talked about that much in the show it was confirmed outside of the show that the wolves primary focus is one of primality in other words they're full and prim and believe that people should live without modern technological standards and that the apocalypse was actually an escape from modern society and therefore humans should go back to their natural descendants or roots i.e wolves and become more primal than they used to live this is why they naturally come into conflict with groups like sanctuary that try to live the way the world used to be so in my opinion the phrase wolves not far that we see graffiti around the show several times is in reference to the idea that the id or the shadow of you is never far behind or as the world gets worse you have to become worse in order to match it at the time in the show that this comes into play it's particularly interesting because it's right before the fight with negan so wolf's not far can be seen as a warning message to our characters that as they go into this battle they're going to lose themselves so another case of cryptic foreshadowing that a lot of people forgot about welcome to the dog trot this is my favorite aspect of the walking dead and something that i wish they did more of in season 4 episode 12 still which a lot of people hated um which is just a wrong opinion and i don't support it daryl and beth are separated from the group and at one point go to a golf course so that beth can get her first drink whenever they walk into the country club there are several interesting things that they find that tell a sort of story upon walking in they find the remnants of a survivor camp as well as things like money and jewelry thrown all over the floor and then past that they find people in very fancy suits hanging from the ceiling and as they keep going they keep finding more from a woman who's pinned up and dead with a sign around her neck that says rich as well as several emaciated walkers that were stuck in the basement but all wearing very fancy clothes the phrase itself welcome to the dog trot is graffiti that is seen on one of the walls within the country club the idea is that all these little pieces are telling a complete story a group of people most likely those that worked at the golf course rebelled against the rich or upper class that lived there hence the people hanging from the ceiling hence the woman with the sign around her chest etc as well as the people wearing nice clothes who it seems made their final stand in the basement before they all turned even the little details like the fact that there's only one bottle of peach schnapps left in the bar implies that whoever was there beforehand tried to drink everything it paints this picture that every place they went to have a story and everything is lived in and like being able to tell a story solely through its aftermath is so interesting to me and it's things like that that i really miss and wish the show did more of morgan's whispers is about the episode known as clear from season three whenever rick meets morgan again the character who hadn't been seen since season one morgan is clearly in a not okay state of mind whenever rick meets him and among the things that morgan says is the fact that he sees people wearing dead people's faces now there is a popular theory off of this that this became the direct inspiration for the whispers not only because obviously people wearing dead people's faces whispers blah blah but this occurred relatively quickly to whenever the whisper showed up in the comics so people joke that robert kirkman got the idea because he was like ah people wearing dead people's faces haven't thought of that before it's also during this time that morgan says he hears things talking to him or he hears these walkers speak to him um hold on to that one too so remember how earlier i said we're going to talk about frank darebon storylines later this is that part so remember at the end of episode 1 how rick crawled into the tank and he got the grenade and shot the walker that was holed up inside of the tank what not a lot of people may have noticed is that walker was played by sam witwer who if you're like me and sought the face was really familiar but couldn't place ware he played starkiller in the force unleash video games but not only that he is another one of those previously mentioned actors who frank darabont was very close with and appeared in the movie the mist along with andrea dale and carol so why did such a big actor have such a seemingly minor role well the reason was the original plans that frank garabon had written for season two were very interesting for example he wanted to tell in one of the episodes of how dale t dog and andrea met in the city and got out among those he wanted to show more decay of how the apocalypse started starting with this national guard soldier played by sam whitworth so in season two we were going to see a flashback of how the military was ordered to kill civilians how they were ordered to quarantine people off and eventually got overran with the final shot of this proposed episode to be sam witwer hiding inside of the tank as there's walkers all around thinking about pulling the grenade pin to kill himself and then setting the grenade up next to him before dying which of course is the scene that rick comes in on on the tank and ends up taking the grenade which if you'll remember is the grenade that saved the group's life whenever they left the cdc so the reason a famous actor plays a walker that's seen in one episode is because he was supposed to get a whole lot more in season two as well as telling the entire story about that one grenade that saved rick's life which i don't care if the show can that and it's not candid at all that is how i choose to believe things went and that's how i always will until i'm dead negan merch controversy is really stupid but i couldn't not mention it there was a guy named ian lewcraft who i'm not doxing him or anything he was very public whenever this all went down who walked into a primark in great britain i don't know what primark is i don't think we have those in the states but whatever to which he went over to the walking dead section and saw a shirt that had eenie meenie miney moe on it now for those that know the show eeny meeny miny moe is the phrase that negan uses whenever he's carrying his bat around actually hold on whenever he's carrying his bat around i forgot that i had this thing until i was literally talking just now and looked over and saw it propped up on the wall actually it's probably good that i didn't remember until just now i would have made a really cringy bit out of it anyway so we saw a shirt with the bat that said eeny meeny miney moe and complained that it was incredibly racist so you know the saying eeny meeny miny moe catch a tiger by his toe if he hollers let him go blah blah blah that whole thing what not a lot of people know is that the sane has very very racist origins from like 1800s like slavery times but was changed almost immediately and no one means it in a racist connotation at all but as ian said quote if i was black and so which let me clarify ian is a white guy it has nothing to do with him to which ian said if i was black and saw someone wearing that shirt i would know where i stood which like i feel like if you do that you're you're the one being racist there and i don't mean this in a whole like of people who notice social norms or the real racists like not at all but if you see a shirt with [Music] this on it and the phrase eeny meeny miny moan you go black people like how is that not way worse than what the walking dead was doing like amc didn't mean it in a racist context it it's not it doesn't even have one until you add it to it but he complained so primark took it out of their stores to which jeffrey dean morgan said on twitter about the situation people are so stupid which yet they sure are entry question was something that popped up in season four that a lot of people kind of forgot about we see that whenever the group meets new people they ask them three questions how many walkers have you killed how many people have you killed and why and while we're never told what answers the group are looking for there are some ideas like for example if you were to ask someone how many walkers have they killed and they're like i don't know i quit counting however many hundred to go that guy's either really really good to have on the team or really really bad and then how many people have you killed for obvious reasons because the group has killed two but according to them it's always been a low number and for a reason that mattered which is why the next question is why or in other words to defend myself to defend my family etc whenever they ask bob this on the show he responds with because she asked me to which i feel is another acceptable answer however what a lot of people didn't pick up on is that the first time we hear those questions asked is back in season 3 where jim threw the hallucination that rick has in the telephone scene i talked about earlier asked him the exact same thing albeit with a different sentence structure he asked rick how many walkers has he killed he asked him if he's killed any people and he asked him why did it so the proverbial questions that ghost jim asked rick are the questions that rick later used to ask people into the group the show sure does like its ghost stories huh anyway we are now on to tier vi starting with hyundai so hyundai ran a sponsorship with the walking dead where they put several hyundai vehicles in the show and for three seasons they had that mint green car that was always in perfect condition and even in the webisode that they did the oath they pretty much tell the story of how the green hyundai got to the group what's interesting about it is since it's an advertisement and since hyundai wants their car to look good if a character is seen in a hyundai nothing bad will happen to them while they're in the car like they can get out of the car and die but there will be no blood spilled within the hyundai and the hyundai will never crash so you can watch the show and every time that a character gets into a car with the slanted h on it you can be like all right we're good for now dwayne jones whiskey is from season 10 but again i'm not going to spoil anything from the show this is just something that's seen on camera there is a whiskey bottle that has printed on the front of it dwayne jones whiskey if that's familiar to you that's because dwayne jones is the name of morgan's son this led a lot of people to theorize that perhaps dwayne was alive because we never see him die on the show and we just know that it happened at some point between seasons one and three so people began to theorize that perhaps morgan just went crazy and his son's going to see a revival within the show itself this is actually a plot line that was done in the comics with michonne so it's not too far-fetched however in the episode they actually talk about the whiskey bottle not the name dwayne jones but they talk about how old it is and they're like oh this is 25 year old whiskey which means that wouldn't add up and it was later confirmed by robert kirkman the reason they called it dwayne jones whiskey was not after morgan sun but after the actor dwayne jones who was the lead role in knight of the living dead so cooling concept didn't really pan out still a neat little like visual easter egg though picnic foreshadowing is in reference to the dream sequence that rick has in the season premiere of season seven in it we can see the entire group together having a picnic party within alexandria and rick's imagination of what if everything was okay now this occurs immediately after glenn and abraham are dead and within the scene we see symbolism of a character snuffing out two candles in front of the two which is obvious representation however there's a lot more subtle things if you start to look through the scene i won't go through all of them because the original post is huge uh but one original thing that someone pointed out is that all the napkins are different colors and the different color napkins that people share can correlate to something for example glen abraham and sasha all three have the same color napkin which oof and they correlate things like the clothing or what food are on their plates to events and things that happen later in the story and it's a huge post i'll leave the link to it in the description because it is interesting but man there's a lot to come through the day will come is a shortened version of the phrase the day will come when you won't be this fact kind of got popular as people began to notice it more recently but it essentially goes like this in the finale of season one whenever the gang is inside of the cdc and it's about to blow up they finally convinced jenner to release the doors and allow them to escape as they're leaving rick shakes jenner's hand and says we're grateful to which jenna replies the day will come when you won't be the name of the episode in which glenn and abraham die and rick nearly has to cut off carl's arm and the group becomes enslaved by negan is titled the day will come when you won't be and considering that was the beginning of the end for a lot of the characters it's such a gut-wrenching moment that symbolically this would be the moment where maybe rick thinks the whole thing was pointless to begin with anyway children of terminus um this is another bright cheery one so there's a scene within terminus whenever it's showing all the goods that they gathered from the groups that came in where there is a table that's full of children's toys and other children paraphernalia and if you look around terminus there's not a whole lot of kiddos so um termites eat babies johnny depp's head okay so in season six there is a part where they're getting a bunch of walker heads and trying to find one that looks like gregory and if you'll notice if the one on the far right looks kind of familiar that's because the prop department modeled it after johnny depp said kind of just as a joke they're like hey wouldn't it be funny if we put johnny depp said in the show as a severed zombie head and i mean since that's johnny the step's head you could canonically say that johnny depp died in the world of the walking dead and there's his head now what's even funnier is after they were done filming norman reedus just took it so somewhere in his house along with like the beard shavings of andrew lincoln is the severed head of johnny depp so i want pictures carol cookbook is another thing from season 10 but again not really spoiler just something that's seen for a brief flash while carol is not in the best of spirits she sees a cookbook that features herself on the cover along with her five dead quote-unquote children all five being kids that she felt responsible for the death of this is uncharacteristically odd for the other hauntings or episodes the characters have within the show like we've seen things like the telephone scene and people believing their talking to dead loved ones but to see yourself on a cookbook in this like betty crocker scene with dead children is odd this is also at a point in the show when carol is becoming very tormented um so another supernatural mention moving on we are now on to tier v kirkman try to kill judith is more of an ongoing affair so there were apparently several times in the show where kirkman kept writing in different ways to kill the baby because he felt that this is a very savagely destroyed world and everything's awful and it would be really good for character development to just just kill the baby also judith died fairly early after her birth in the comics so again kill the child however the studio kept denying him time and time again the reason there's so many times in the show where judith supposedly disappears or it's unknown what happened to her is because these were instances of robert trying to open the door to her death like in the season 4 mid-season finale whenever rick and carl come to the bloodied baby carrier and they think judith is dead that's because that was another attempt of robert to go to the studio and be like see i already killed her now it's going to be weird if i have to bring her back so you should just let me keep her dead he since said that this was a dumb idea and he likes the character that judith has become but it's so funny that every time in the show that you watch it and you're like wow did the baby die robert was really hoping that the baby died purple shirt walker is an interesting phenomenon that was seen in the early parts of the show so specifically the purple shirt walker was one that was seen in atlanta whenever rick was stuck inside of the tank it starts off as weird because the walker is sitting there inside of a burnout bus before getting up and then walking out onto the street and seen rick however unlike all the other walkers that are crowded around him and the horse the walker just stands there kind of back a bit and stares at him for a while this is entirely uncharacteristic as what we know walkers are just mindless cattle that follow noise in people wherever they go except for this one that just kind of watches but if you'll remember in season one that wasn't the only weird occurrence remember morgan's wife who as a walker walked up to the porch and tried to open the doorknob or remember the little girl at the very first walker ever sewn on the show who picked up her teddy bear even little things like whenever they're stuck inside the department store one of the walkers on the window is seen beating the window with a brick these are entirely weird uncharacteristic things that we never see later in the show and even small touches like all the walkers were faster than whereas now they just kind of shamble everywhere this implies that these walkers in some sense have some form of memory like the purple shirt walker just remembered sitting on a bus so that's what he did as a walker morgan's wife remembered walking to that porch and opening the door so that's what she did and i know that like the official thing is like oh well they retconned all that but that's lame i don't like that what i do like is the idea that the infection has gotten worse over the time but whenever it first started people were still in there even if just a little bit and it goes back to the question that not a lot of people have really asked of what really are the walkers i see red is the quote that morgan used when talking about the death of his son in season 3. in a fantastic scene he's describing what happened to dwayne in saying that his wife his zombified wife who he didn't have the courage to kill before came and killed his son who also didn't have the courage to kill her and when describing it morgan begins to scream the phrase over and over i see red i see red now the phrase i see red while here maybe in relation to blood is often used to describe people in fits of rage and also think about the logistics of it morgan is there and so is his son the wife zombified wife begins to attack his son to which morgan in this state of anger would most likely kill his wife however it seems totally implausible to me that right there she managed to totally consume dwayne or kill him to the point of total death what more than likely happened is she bit him once and then during this rage state morgan realizing what he had to do killed his son so the phrase i see red may just not mean the blood it may quite mean that morgan went into such a fit that he either beat shot or stabbed his son to death which makes his fallout that he had after that all the more understandable and perhaps the reason he swore an oath of never taking a life is because he took one in such a brutal way and one that mattered so dearly to him vados gang is often forgot about but one of the cooler elements of the show that got brushed over so remember in season one whenever rick shane glenn and daryl went to atlanta to get the bag of guns and then there was a sort of spanish gang that kidnapped glenn for a while before it turns out that the whole gang itself was just a group of guys who was protecting a nursing home who the workers left abandoned yeah what happened to those guys well in a deleted scene from the first episode of season two remember this is when frank darebont was writing and in a scene you can completely find on youtube the group goes to the vatos gang after the cdc explodes to get help once they get there everyone's been murdered and not just by walkers although there are some walkers there majority by people who have been executed with a gunshot to the head now this is before any violent factions were seen in the show so it leaves the question of who killed the vatos gang well in the rise of governor novels that i mentioned earlier it said that the governor went to atlanta in the time period that would have been while rick's crew was also in atlanta now while those novels are directly related to the comics and can't always be applied here i do think the idea of the governor making his way to atlanta because remember it was supposed to be a safe haven still fits so it's quite possible in the original script and in the original deleted scene that we had a hint of the governor before he ever came on to the show and all the way back in what would have been season one he executed the nursing home in order to take their supplies something that we would find out later he wasn't opposed to doing axel's storyline was another one of those dark ideas that was theorized but they never went with so remember axel he was one of the prisoners that rick found within the prison who ended up being a friend of the group well in the original script he was supposed to be a sort of serial killer figure he was going to stalk and periodically attack the group and in the original drafts was going to kill beth and brutalize carol the actor lou temple who played axel was told right before filming that we're going to lighten up a little bit so instead of attacking carol like that you're going to have a relationship with her because the opening of season 3 especially was very dark in a lot of the instances and stuff that they showed and as previously mentioned with the whole lori skeleton this was in the same vein of yeah we can't do that and a lot of the times with characters like axel if it seems like a character was put on the back burner for a bit before immediately getting a story arc and then dying that's because often with the writing that's how it went speaking of cut ideas eugene had a cut scene during his stint with the saviors specifically with the character laura laura was played by linsley register who said that one day before filming she got a call from her agent who said how comfortable are you with uh provocative situations and she said for the walking dead turns out there was an entire scripted shot and edited scene of eugene and laura getting it on now this wasn't like a budding romance or anything it was very clear through the screenplay that this was just more so act of opportunity however that means somewhere out there on the internet is an entire scene of eugene doing the deed in character which that has got to be a conversation starter for sure carol killed the andersons is um yeah probably so remember the andersons it was the abusive husband and the wife jesse who would later become a love interest for rick as well as their two sons sam and ron they were all held up inside of alexandria whenever the group came there well jesse sam and ron were all killed during the walker invasion of alexandria specifically sam had a panic attack while moving through the horde and was eaten by walkers to which jesse was then killed and then ron attacked and he was killed however if you'll trace that line back a lot of people forgot the reason that he was so traumatized and afraid of walkers was because of carol see carol would constantly scare him and freak him out with all these stories and that's what started these fits of horror that he would have and it was one of these fits of horror that he had while in the horde that got him killed so through that chain of events carol is directly responsible for the deaths of the entire anderson family and there's even some believe that this was on purpose see the entire time she was at alexandria at least in the beginning carol was putting on a face in order to seem normal however as we saw in quick glimpses she was still the same carol through the whole thing so carol despised the weakness that she once saw herself as and the idea is she purposefully traumatized sammy and others around her so that if a survival situation was ever to come into play she would be the one to come out on top this is similar to her killing several wolves as well as several alexandrians during the wolf attack so maybe the death of the andersons was just another form of carol's rapid and immediate social darwinism walker lori is a cut scene from season three so whenever that whole period of time happened after laurie died and rick was just kind of out of it there was another edited and entirely put together scene where he sees lori just outside of the prison fence and after going to her and kissing to her he pulls back to find that she is in fact a walker now to which he freaks out starts screaming and running around and it's the whole thing but similar to the eugene scene i mentioned earlier there is an entire edited scene that you can find online of lori standing there as a walker in her bride's gown and rick just losing his mind i remember like back whenever season three and season four were coming out people would post screenshots of just the lori walker face and be like see season five walker walker lori confirmed coming back from heaven and we are now down to the final tier tier viii amy's walker is technically a comic fact however it was too cool not to mention here so we all remember amy getting bit and dying in the atlantic camp it was one of the first major deaths that took place on the show however robert kirkman confirmed in the comics that the walker who bit amy is the same guy who shot rick and put him in the hospital and the timelines match up because as we figured out in expanded media and other stuff around the walking dead the infection had been there for a while and had just been covered up until the huge outbreak so ricketts shot put in the hospital for a couple months wakes up in the meantime that guy who got shot on the road gets taken somewhere comes back as a walker eventually meanders his way through atlanta and bites amy symbolically it seems that this one guy was the end of both of rick's lives his life pre-apocalypse and the first life he was trying to build post-apocalypse as this was the event that made the group leave the city and i really wanted to like do that for the show like be able to be like oh it's the same one they're wearing the same clothes or whatever but the walker that bites amy was played by greg nicotero and that is not the same guy who shot rick in the earlier scene so so close cut maggie death is quite potentially a troll that was done by amc so everyone who watched the show knows about the season six clifthanger it ended with knee hold on it ended with negan doing the eenie meenie miney moe thing and then finally he swings the bat down but we didn't see who was killed until season seven however right before season seven came out a leak showed up online that showed the entire scene only it was maggie who was killed and everyone's acting and it's a fully edited scene of maggie being the one who gets killed with the bat now according to some reports so that no one would know even the cast of who was chosen to die they filmed that scene with everyone dying or in other words they did every possible iteration so even the cast members didn't know who was picked now i'm not sure of the validity of that statement they definitely filmed the maggie scene because it showed up online there is a theory that amc leaked that scene on purpose just to throw off the audience right before the show came out which raises a lot of questions about how they film scenes and how they keep secrets together but moving on the pharmacy sync is maybe the most brutal implication in the entire show so remember the welcome to the dog trot thing earlier the whole country club story that's told through the background this is a much faster and much more brutal version of that in season six episode 14 there is a scene where denise leaves alexandria with daryl to go explore and get supplies at one point they come across a pharmacy which on the outside is totally boarded up with walker hands all over the windows upon going inside denise gets to the bathroom which has also been boarded up and after breaking her way in she sees a completely decomposed like just bones walker on the ground along with the word hush ridden over the walls over and over again and then a sink full of water with a baby's shoe sticking out of it so similar as the country club we can see the whole story a woman who was held up in the pharmacy at the beginning of the apocalypse and the reason we know it's at the beginning is because the walker has a cast on its leg implying that whenever she was taken in it had to be recent around the time that she had a cast applied she hides in this pharmacy with her baby but most likely due to the baby's crying it keeps attracting walkers which is the reason for the blood on the windows so she holds up in the bathroom and after losing her mind because of the walkers outside and the fact the baby won't stop crying she fills up the sink and yeah maybe the most brutal moment in the entire show and the implications are horrifying this would also be the only time in the entire tv show that we have actually seen a dead baby like yeah kids die on the show all the time but we've never actually seen an infant i mean there's been times that there's been implications that they have died but like like you see that thing shoe in the water and it's wild to me that the darkest moment on the entire show was a two second shot uh however i will say for a zombie series it was pretty cool season 4 lucille implies that negan may have been around a lot earlier than the group thought in season 4 there is a scene where beth is separated from the group and comes across a lot of corpses if you look at the shot lying near them you can hold on if you look at this shot you can see lying near them is lucille in the dirt next to their bodies now i don't know how many people active in the area that the group may know who was running around with a barbed wire baseball bat but it had to be like less than 10. and while you could say it's just an easter egg once again that's lame so maybe negan's been in the shadows a lot longer and maybe their crossing paths later on was a sort of destiny that was always meant to be 382 000 is the supposed number of people left alive on earth this is a very very long math equation that people way smarter than me did to determine from little tidbits that were given throughout the show and comics how many people are left alive on earth this was done using the starting point of the show began in 2010 so they said that's when the apocalypse started and from figures that jinder gives of how many people died and how many people were supposed to be killed afterwards and a bunch of stuff they eventually got to the 382 000 figure which let me tell you is like nothing to put that into perspective 382 000 is .005 of the world's population in 2010 but we can use that figure to get to another cool fact so it's said several times by like robert kirkman and people who created the show that the ratio of humans to walkers is about one to five thousand which is a lot so if there's 382 000 just multiply that by 5 000 and we can see that there are about 1 billion 910 million walkers on earth or in other words about one pewdiepie sub count away from two billion zombies on the planet it's especially interesting because there's a lot of questions about how many people still exist can humanity survive and considering that catastrophic of a reset of the population probably not shane's original death we are into the good ones so john bernthal revealed in an interview after his departure from the show how the script originally called for the scene between him and rick to go so in the beginning the episode plays out the same way we all know shane kills randall shane manages to get along with rick and the rest of the group separated yadda yadda however where it changes is in the scene where shane is pointing his gun at rick in the original script as shane's pointing his gun at rick rick throws his gun down and says he doesn't want to fight him and shane keeps getting worse and worse and amping up rick over and over until eventually he just started saying really evil vile stuff to him and in a fit of rage rick stabbed shane so while rick is there mourning and having his emotional moment shane turns so rick grabs shane's gun points it at him pulls the trigger and the gun clicks or in other words the gun that shane was using was never loaded the whole time the implication being shane became so distraught with the way everything was going with the fact that he loved lori but he couldn't have her and he wanted to be carl's father but he couldn't and in one act shane wanted to both die and make rick take up the helm of the group so shane never intending to harm rick at all provoked rick to the point of killing him because shane couldn't do it himself i absolutely love this theory i've always saw shane as one of the better complex characters written on the show because in the beginning shane didn't do anything wrong he was looking out for his friend's family he thought his friend was dead and he fell in love and the fact that his friend was alive just complicated everything he was feeling and he just spiraled from there to have that be his final death that he never intended to harm rick but he just wanted off the ride and he wanted rick to take up the mantle i see as so much more profound the name of the episode in which shane dies is better angels and i've always imagined like ever since i figured out about this theory it was the idea that shane couldn't be the guardian for the group anymore so he had to pass that on to a better angel and it's just one of those examples of something that i really really wish they kept because it makes a lot of what happens so much more impactful the lone walker is a theory that a lot of people came up with online after the reoccurrence of a season 2 scene so in the season 2 episode 12 miles out whenever shane and rick are on their way back home after the whole fiasco with randall and the fight that shane and rick got into shane looks out the window to see a totally alone walker walking through an open field now this is uncharacteristic for a walker to not be in a horde but that's not entirely out of the normal like some of them can be on their own sometimes but its behavior of just standing there stills a little odd and a lot of people took more symbolism in it so that was season two right the walkers showed up in the season five opening credits and stayed there through season nine so that's really weird they take this random shot from season two and then put it on four other seasons but why the theory is the lone walker is a symbol of our own lone ranger rick after we see the fight between rick and shane shane looks out the window and sees a walker by himself alone in the field and then as rick begins to amp up the power and become more and more vicious we see that same walker in the opening title the idea is that shane saw rick for what he really was before everything else came to be or essentially the idea that rick could be that bigger man he could be that fighter so the fact that we see that walker come back in the opening title sequence up until rick's death or death from the show at least in season 9 further confirms the idea that that walker and rick are interlinked somehow so following the theory the idea is that will be how rick ends on the show either completely by himself and alone or a zombified walker again left alone as the last survivor of the core group and even though he's gone off the television show they're still the movies so the idea is that at the end of the movies we will see rick take over as the lone walker and then finally the whole world is haunted this was a line that tyrese said to carol several seasons back that has always stuck with me ever since tyree said it it's made me rethink what the series is there are a lot of references to religion and god throughout the series of the show not only do you have characters like herschel and father gabriel who constantly mention god but there are ideas of prayer there are ideas of heaven and hell and everything else so even if mentioned in like the way way background there's an implication of the spiritual so speaking of the spiritual and the matter of human souls what happens to people when they die and i don't mean that like in the real world in religion whatever i'm talking about on the show whenever someone gets bit do they die and does their like soul leave their body and then just whatever this space for or infection or whatever it is just take over the body that was theirs and walk around maybe but then how do you explain stuff like morgan's wife as a walker how do you explain the purple shirt walker it's like these things have these glimpses these quick flashes of what life used to be like which side note i really wish was an element they kept in the show but it implies that somehow someway there's someone still in there and these people in whatever regard they are alive if you could call it that they are these helpless passengers as whatever the saying is controls their body and makes them do the things they do so whenever i think of walkers whatever i think of these creatures are in the show i quite literally see them as walking souls these people permanently trapped inside of these husks as their own purgatory it's as if they're stuck there and aren't allowed to leave the earth but it's not only the people that become walkers you know all those like spiritual things that i mentioned earlier in the video and i've been like oh keep in mind that and that well this is what i mean things like the telephone scene where four characters who have all died and not turned to walkers they've all completely died speak to rick or carol seen the visions of her kids through a cookbook or morgan being taunted by the guy who he was supposed to keep his apprentice from killing it's not just the walkers who are trapped as souls on earth it's everyone there is a line herschel mentions in season 2 when quoting the bible when he talks about how one day heaven will be locked up and the dead will walk the earth it seems that whatever this plague is has trapped whatever little bit is left of people within these walking corpses and that even after they die they're still on earth still speaking to our main characters who are there for whatever reason it seems heaven's locked up and everyone is forced to forever wander the earth and thinking about this stuff it makes lines like glenn telling maggie i will find you before he dies so much more profound and all of these supposedly crazy coincidences like the governor killing the vatos and then becoming the group that rick fights or negan's bat being found with the group all the way back in season four only to then run into them later and it's like all of these interactions are guided by some means when rick says the line to his group in season 5 that they are the walking dead i think he meant it either being stuck in your own decomposing body or stuck to walk the earth and communicate through those who will listen however you can it seems as if no one's allowed to leave this purgatory think about people like morgan saying the dead talk to him or even the whispers who say if they listen that they can hear the walkers speaking to them and i want to clarify i never want this to become a main drive i never want the show to be like oh they're all ghosts it's just something cool that i think about when watching the show that i apply to everything i think maybe tyrese is right i think the whole world's haunted which in my opinion makes the show so much more terrifying but it's a horror series and that's how i like it and speaking of liking it i hope that you like that because that's the end of the iceberg and i hope you enjoyed and thank you for watching i haven't done an iceberg about a topic like this ever i don't think they're all like not like things related to media they're just like movies in general or like these uh serial killers or conspiracy theories or whatever like this is the first time i have made a iceberg about an ip but it's something that i like obviously if you couldn't tell by the way i talked about it especially at the end um especially how it used to be like the early show was so good and i loved it so much um and like i know people say that like later seasons are also good i haven't really checked them out um just because like i really love what it used to be but i am glad that i was able to cover this i'm glad i have a youtube channel now that i can talk about this stuff and that you all are out there listening and it means a lot so thank you all so much for watching i hope that you enjoyed um like i said this was the first iceberg i built myself i i cared about it i wanted this to go a certain way especially because it's just you know it's something i grew up with it's something i enjoyed it's something that really got me into like the walking dead was very instrumental in like my ideas of creepy television i guess um and i've always loved the series and especially with that last theory the way i've always viewed the show it always made it that much more creepy to me and one of the reasons that i love it so much because it allows that kind of wiggle room for you to figure it out for yourself that's the main reason i don't like the space for and all that stuff i've always imagined it not quite literally that they are in purgatory just that they are trapped in the world and i've always loved the idea that heaven's been locked up um it makes it that much scarier to me and that's why i've always enjoyed it but anyway so thank you i'll go talking about now thank you for watching the show at the show that's i'm tired thank you for i said episode it's not a show or an episode thank you for watching my video on youtube thank you uh about this show that has episodes uh i hope that you enjoyed you all have been fantastic um what are we at now like 560 like some stupidly high number i can't comprehend um you guys are fantastic and thank you for that thank you to my top tier patrons over here thank you to all of my patrons you guys have been great um i i made that decision to like if you're a patron you know but i made a decision to get rid of the 20 tier and then um like help like do the whole refund thing for all that and you guys have been fantastic um and just being very supportive me and you like i knew you would because you guys are so kind and forgiving and i really appreciate it but thank you all so much for your time and thank you for watching this video so i don't know what's going to get posted first this or the serial killer iceberg it's a toss-up one or the other and then after that there will be the conspiracy theory iceberg and then a couple one-off videos so i hope you stick around for those but if not i hope that you enjoyed thank you so much for watching and thank you for being here uh i hope that you have a good day that should do it and i will see you in the next one bye
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Channel: Wendigoon
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Keywords: iceberg, explained, scp, analysis, breakdown, scary, spooky, horror, creepy, comedy, funny, laugh, humor, cringe, intel, deep web, dark web, hidden, tier list, secret, top ten, top 10, countdown, compilation, meme, memes, meme compilation, internet horror, reddit, ask reddit, redacted, childhood, trauma
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Length: 78min 18sec (4698 seconds)
Published: Tue Aug 31 2021
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