The Temple Lost in Time

[Music] [Applause] we can worship according with Yahweh's word and while we can worship according demands to the Emperor Constantine a Sun worshipers solidified the change from Sabbath to Sunday in the first 300 years of the New Testament the church made hundreds of changes the doctrine that we follow a scripture and not the traditions of man [Music] [Music] it is as faster and you like to welcome you to another shattering traditions programs and blessing to have you with us where today we're blessed in many many ways but the most important is we have Kim Klein here can you're an author you're also a film producer if you will sort of give us at your website maybe some information about some of your videos and your books especially the one focusing on the Temple Mount piece that's really why we're here today to talk about the Temple Mount okay and you know this concept that it was not on the traditional Temple Mount as as it is today my website is Ken Kline and Klein is the Jewish forum que le I an can Klein productions plural productions dot net can climb productions dotnet and if you go there you can get the film I produced called Jerusalem and the Lost Temple of the Jews for free by the way just just just put a plug in there for you I've watched the videos they're great video matter of fact we showed it to the or local congregation so I would encourage everybody watching to go out and watch this video yeah and you can do all you have to do is download it from and yet there's a URL takes you to youtube and you it's private YouTube but I'm giving you through my website a way to get it for free because I want to see the world change in its concept about the temple I don't care about making money off it or anything you can get it for free ken Klein productions dot net and then there and but on that site if you want to look at my site more there's other films that I've produced and okay you can look at those too so just real quickly and and I don't want to how much time have you spent as a film producer author a long time well my first book I wrote in nineteen it was in the 90s because I was pastoring churches over a number of years but then I felt the Lord calling me out of that to write and produce films and so I'd say between writing and producing probably 25 years okay so it's a long time you've been involved in yeah producing videos yeah again we saw the one video you did I want to watch some of the other videos you've done because it the one on the temple was really phenomenal just the information you provided or today this is a second program by the way so if our audience audience missed the first I would encourage them to go back and watch the first on the episode but we're talking about the temple and we're talking about an alternate theory most people believe that the temple was on the traditional Temple Mount as it is today we believe based on the evidence that the temple was likely within the city of David the City of David is about a third of a mile south of the traditional Temple Mount sets right between the Kidron and the Itoro peein valleys so a very important belief for my standpoint and I know you've shared that enthusiasm that conviction with that I want to focus on something very specific today and that is a gear on spring we talked about this a little bit in the first segment and it's such an important truth to realize to understand the given spring for many many reasons but I want you to give a description if you will have the gear on as you understand it because you've been there you've done the research so talk a little bit about the decon if you would well there's a place in Jerusalem called Mount Scopus which is at the end of the Kidron Valley it so that Kidron Valley kind of slopes down from Mount Scopus all the way down past the City of David and continues on the the the this gijón spring starts in Mount Scopus and it's underground and and it and it and it bursts forth probably I would say but I I don't know a mile from Mount Scopus down by the city of David and by the time it gets down there its gathered so much force that if you blocked it off from continuing farther down it would actually alter the flow of that brook that spring spring upward so you can imagine if you had a hose with water you know coming down gathering it because gravity makes it way more then and then to divert it so it blows upward it would blow up there with a lot of force and that's what the Jebusites did they actually diverted it so that they they could get to it easier you know as it has called a siphon Springs it's called a siphon spring and what that means is that up and Mount Scopus there's like a a bowl up there where this water collects and and when it collects it there's there's this in the limestone like a tube out of the limestone that goes upward and then it's kind of a u-shaped and then as it begins to come down as the water fills up there it creates like this siphon effect and that water going down just begins to suck the water out of that bowl and until the bowl is empty and that's why people have drowned that have gone into hezekiah tunnel because they don't realize that it pulses isn't there and then the water begins to collect again and then it does the same thing over and over and again and people have been down in that Hezekiah tunnel drowned because they didn't realize that they could they could be in between the times when it pulses and when it pulses there's a substantial amount of water that blasts through those caves down there you've been down there and yeah absolutely matter of fact you know I've been there twice now in Israel in this last time we went to the city of David as we did the first time but instead of walking through the dry side you know through the to the pool of siloam we took the other route through the Hezekiah tunnel or as they call it in it was just a such a inspirational walk if you will - absolutely Hezekiah in in the Israelites of old chiseled us out in yeah and made this tunnel that eventually would would empty into the pool of siloam is was just nothing short of phenomenal but not I've been there matter of fact you you described this in your video on the on the temple you have a explanation showing graphically how does that's right yeah maybe we'll take a quick break here pause and we'll show this and then we'll come back and we'll continue discussing the Gion spring and why it's so important so we're going to break but we'll be right I'm a hydrogeologist work for the US Geological Survey my specialty is underground water and I've studied groundwater systems all over the United States and all over the world and I found one of the fascinating places that I've I've looked into groundwater is actually in Jerusalem at the Gihon spring and the Gihon spring is very fascinating because it's a spring and a car system and there are thousands of car springs all over the world but the Gihon spring is an unusual type of spring a very rare type of car spring that we often call a siphon spring and there's probably only maybe a dozen or so of these Springs all over the world and the Gihon spring is one of them and so how the siphon Springs operate is that somewhere uphill of the spring there'll be a cavern and this cavern naturally slowly replenishes as groundwater fills the cavern but connecting the cavern and the spring there will be a channel and the channel won't be straight otherwise as the water naturally filled the cavern it would just continually flow out of the spring but what happens in these rare siphon Springs is this channel will be in the shape of an upside-down u so there'd be a high point so as that cavern starts to fill naturally with water with groundwater very slowly there's nowhere for it to to run out and as the cavern fills that that channel fills until the cavern reaches at the level of the water level in the cavern reaches the high point on that upside-down u and once that happens then the water starts to flow and it creates a siphon effect so it's just like if you siphon gasoline out of your gas tank and you've got a hose that's coming out of your gas tank and once you get that gasoline flowing as long as the end of that hose is below that water level that gasoline is going to continue to come out of your tank until that level comes below the end of your hose and then the air will get in and stop so the same thing happens naturally underground in a siphon spring that cavern will start to empty until either the water level and the cavern reaches the level of the spring or the the water level completely drains the cavern and air can enter that that channel either from the cavern or from the spring and once that happens the siphon is broken and the flow stops so when the flow is flowing very strongly from the spring that's when the cavern is emptying and then when the siphon breaks then then the flow rate slows back down to a trickle so the question some people ask is could the water level have naturally gotten up to the level of the temple and the answer to that question is it depends on where the water level is and the cavern relative to the elevation at the temple so we know from the fact that this is a siphon spring that there in fact was somewhere uphill a cavern that was filling with water now if the Gihon spring was not a siphon spring we wouldn't know that the water level could simply be only a few feet above the spring somewhere but because it's a siphon spring we know there's a cavern somewhere uphill probably at some substantial elevation above the spring so if I wanted to have that water come all the way up to the temple it's sort of like I want in my gas tank my hose I want the gasoline to come out higher you simp you'd simply raise the hose up higher to get the gasoline to come out of your hose higher but you can't raise it above the level in the tank so if we go back to the temple and if I wanted the water at the spring to get up to the temple if I blocked off the spring and made it watertight and there was a vertical shaft then the water level would continue to raise and that shaft until it either reached the water level in the cavern or reach the temple and if the temple is lower than the cavern then the water will naturally flow out at the site of the temple north of the Kidron Valley is Mount Scopus the probable location of the cavern in the opposite direction looking south from aus Scopus there is more than sufficient drop-off for the water to gather speed and momentum generating tremendous water pressure the combined siphon effect along with the water pressure when it reached the southeast ridge below created an upward thrusting of the water much like the activity of Old Faithful all that was needed to channel the water to the temple above was for the spring to be blocked off and a vertical shaft allowing the water and upward route from the spring below in 1867 Sir Charles Warren a British archeologist discovered such a vertical channel at the Gihon spring this unique water system brought a massive volume of water to the temple above absolutely critical for the enormous and daily needs of the Levitical priesthood Jerusalem 3000 years ago it had nothing to commend it nothing there was nothing that there's rocks there's mountains those hillsides it is a terrible place to be why would you settle there for one reason there is fresh water there's a spring the spring is by what we now call the City of David it is nowhere near the Haram where it is claimed that the temples were built that's number one number two in in all the Jewish writings it is claimed that the temple needs vast amounts of water if if you need vast amounts of water you would tend to build the temple near the water not hundreds and hundreds of yards away from the water especially when with this is not Roman times where they knew knew how to build aqueducts this was 2,000 years before the Romans when the ability to move water was it was impossible so if you you you you found the city near water you build a temple near water the only place to build it is where there is water and the only place the only place there is what is the Gihon spring there is no other source of water that can sustain any sort of community except the gegen spring well let's continue on with the discussion now with Ken Cline and again good to have you with us Ken and I what I want to do now is really focus on the Gihon spring and there's two things because we've talked about how it works we've shown through your video the siphon and how that process works but what I want to focus on is the importance the Gihon was to the city of Jos javis or or Jerusalem and also talked about the 70 families that came from Tiberias and lastly I want to talk about the concept of this gushing spring and we actually have a historical records of this which is really amazing when you think about it so so from a practical standpoint it's my understanding that Jerusalem were jealous were where the Jebusite saw lived those cities would not exist today without the Gihon spring you can you can go back there where crone was finding that room and I've got him I filmed him down there looking digging around now when you say room is I think we covered this elastic program that they've uncovered a room where they believe that the animal sacrifices were done now they they they don't say and they refuse to draw a conclusion between that and the temple but the room right next to that room not far from that room are two bulkheads ancient bulkheads that were built by the Jebusites to to cause the water of the Gihon to shoot upward and you can go there today and see it and and circa Crone's down there and digging around because you know something about this and so it was really important to these people to make sure that they have water for their city and so it was the here's Aggie hon you know as I understand it from a historical perspective was used not only for the ceremonial purposes it was used obviously for for Nick fuzz and and immersions and the anointing of certain positions but it's also used for the agriculture yeah they had a they did have cisterns that they built late I'm his sisters all over the place but it had to be in those days living water and they didn't build sisters till later and you can find him and people argue well I think I had to they used it sister no it had to be a certain kind of water for the sacrifices for the drinking water so on and so forth the metaphor let's talk about that real quick because you mentioned cisterns and that's an important point you bring up because many people who will defend the traditional belief and that is that the temples on the the Temple Mount right is today they will point out and they're right you know underneath the Temple Mount where you know there's many cisterns available they're wide why what was the issue with that for from your standpoint why doesn't that and what was the contradiction between that and in the temple well water isn't just for bathing and and drinking waters for growing plants and feeding animals do they have to drink water plant and you people forget that this is a well watered area you know when the Romans came in and blighted the place I mean people couldn't even recommend this 70-80 they pick couldn't recognize that were there was even a Jerusalem anymore I mean people have no idea that the devastation that the Romans brought to the land they devastated the whole place and we're actually going to really talk in depth with that yeah so so water was really important and as as the city grew they needed more water they just simply needed more water for all these to facilitate all these needs so cisterns were built some were built on the Haram or the temple mountain and around the place and so they they saved the water because you know they needed it when when they when they ran low so there's a lot of cisterns around there but the the needs of the priesthood world and the city people were for living water and the animals and the agriculture was another story so they they built facilities to carry care for and house the water over periods that's my understanding with these cisterns too that there was no reliable water source coming into the Temple Mount area or the harem until really Rome when they built the aqueduct well it's hard to really date the aqueducts some people say it goes all the way back to Solomon I don't believe that and some of it came all the way from Hebron they would they would conduit water from Hebron and built these aqueducts probably was herod I mean he was the massive biller that would have put it right now at the time of Christ and then ongoingly that cisterns but there's lots of cisterns in Jerusalem and there's aqueducts that come from far away from the south to the north well the reason I mentioned that is is you had to have a reliable water source yeah and if you had no way to transport the water from from point A to point B being the Temple Mount how would that explain and how would that with all the sacrifices exactly so in the in the originality or the original time of the temples they didn't have the sisters this was strictly water from the guy Han and it was enough for the needs of the city and then as a city grew as things happened as the military of the Romans came in they needed more water and especially when you have ten thousand people living up there on the harem which we're getting more into the fortress Antonio they had to have water they had to flush sewage with the water for the blood of the animals they had to have water they didn't they didn't necessarily use running water or living water to flush the blood they they would they wouldn't have wasted it so there was a lot of needs for water as a city grew for agriculture I remember the garden of gethsemane was a garden and there was gardens all over the place for the entire mount of olives was filled with all the freezes yeah as I understand it yeah historically yeah so they needed water and in fact it says where the Lord was killed there was much water so where is it coming from well yeah where the guy on Springs and these and these places where you know they're getting water for storing water in fact I think someone in one of the trailers I produced to promote the film Jerusalem lost temple we do we're inside a cistern there's normos on the north side of the Temple Mount and it's fascinating you know what these people built but I think it was built by the Romans personally yeah and I tend to agree with that i firm from what I've researched and from that perspective if it was built with the Romans where that would then reason the water source was not there for Solomon that's right and which really shows a criticality of the Gihon spring and in the the likelihood of the temple being built near the Gehan and not 1/3 of a mile uphill where they would have to route the water to which for that for the sacrificial offerings in the outpost of the Romans and the Antonia fortress that's 10,000 people that's like a city they needed a lot of water just just to deal with the sewage problem people don't think through it and consider all those things but they're not going to ways gaion water on sewage this is not in fact I actually walked through the sewage tunnel yeah I do too yeah that's true yeah and that tunnel you know of course there's none in it today and it's been gone for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years so the doesn't smell anything like that but there was a tunnel him I must have been six foot high and about three or four foot wide that they flushed all the sewage of the city out and it ended up on the other side of the the pool that she crooned discovered the placenta yeah down there in the kid Rob far far down from it so water was critical and and when they didn't have enough they made cisterns and to facilitate their you know but the bottom line is and I think this is what people need to recognize the bottom line is without the Gion spring life would not exist in Georgia that's right and that's really the bottom yeah that that's true for life that's true for the sacrificial ceremony of reasons they have for the Jihan but but everything really begins with the Gihon spring the other thing about the the Gihon which feeds into Hezekiah tunnel if you walk through there and I've done it a number of times is that water is really cold it's really cold so it didn't come from some artesian spring springing up it came from Mount Hermon that was covered with snow and so you're still getting the cold water from herman when you walk through there so there's more evidence that this this water supply came from the northern parts of israel all the way down to to jerusalem so it's if you go to Jerusalem you got to walk through heads oh yeah absolutely I love going to Jerusalem as we're open and I think we're going to take a short break I want to when we come back I'm going to talk speak about the 70 Jewish families that came from Tiberias and also this these eyewitness accounts of a gushing spring but before that I want to give the audience an opportunity to see a trailer you produced with your video and I would encourage really all that all those watching to to acquire this to go to youtube or buy the video whatever whatever works to to watch to watch the video I think you bring out some so very informative information so we'll take a short break and we'll come back and continue our discussion okay hello I'm Ken Klein your host and I want to take you on a journey back into time an amazing journey seeking to rediscover the lost histories of the Jews histories that once brought into the light of day will change everything we're gonna have to go back in time to the first century so follow me into the old city and we'll begin our journey it appears to be an intractable and unsolvable dilemma but what you're about to hear could change all of that [Music] in order to recreate historic moments in time there is tremendous need to have accurate information they call this the old city and you can very easily make that mistake but this is really the new old city the old old city was five hundred years younger than this part of town this ancient water system hezekiah tom is a very very important archaeological discovery this was prima facie evidence and yes this must be where the City of David was lucky [Music] that's where you would build a temple that's where I would build a temple that's where David and Solomon built a temple [Music] but welcome back for Ken we were talking about the Gihon spring and I want to really focus on two things now number one this account of 70 Jewish families coming to Jerusalem from Tiberias I want to read this the original source is the Ganesa documents but this is actually referred from a ravine hammer and as a jurors from a neurology page 148 so if they're interested to look at the source but here's what it says Omar which Omer was a second caliph right it says decree that 70 households should come and these were Jewish households right says they agreed to that and after that he asked where do you wish to live within the city so that they're coming back from Tiberias to the ancient city of Jerusalem they replied and the southern a section of the city which is the market of the Jews the request was to enable them to be near the site of the temple and his gates as well as to the water of shilova which could be used for immersion this was a granted them by the Emer for the believers so 70 households including women and children moved from Tiberias and established settlements in buildings whose foundations had stood many generations for me what's important here is the mention of the temple along with the water of Shiloh which we know is is a reference to the Gion spring right so these Jewish families Omar asking where do you want to go and they immediately you know the southern section of the city right right near the Gihon spring right near the temple you know I think there's some backstory that needs we need to back fill a little bit about this because Omar came into town and he went to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher which now had been in existence for almost 300 years and he asks sophronia s-- the grand pooh-bah that you I don't have a lot of respect for sorry to use that language but really he was the the you the ruling elder over this church and he came to sophronia s-- and he said hey where did king david and solomon pray and he said well they prayed right here and he said no they didn't I had a dream and it wasn't here tell me where it is affront he says well I'll make a deal with you as long as you don't let any Jews back into the Lent so in those days the Muslims were more compassionate towards the Jews then than the Christians you know and this is one of the reasons why the Jewish people are so defensive about the church they've never been treated right by Christianity and so they made the deal and and and suffer nieces was down there by the guy hunt that's where they prayed he said okay I want to go down there and pray and so he went down there and prayed but he went back on his word to Sophronia's and he allowed these 70 families to come down there but what's interesting about Omar or Umar is that he took a stone from there and they called it the Baracus stone and he thought that's where the Ark of the Covenant rested and he took it up to where today that the Alaska Mosque is and they actually called it the new Temple of Solomon and part of the reason the tradition has come that the Temple Mount is where the Templars were is because of the al-aqsa mosque that was originally called the new Temple of Solomon so the whole concept of where the temples were were shifted because now the focus was on this new Temple of Solomon which wasn't the new Temple of Solomon at all and it was based upon this stone and Baraka means the transfer of holiness and so the whole shifting of the attention of where the temples were originally built which was the southeastern Ridge which was wonderfully explained by dr. Martin and which my film that battle his whole treatise is where I went I blew me away his archaeology a study of scriptures with man this guy's a genius I had to do a film on it and again I I hope people get it it's free you can get it for free and educate yourself just go to my website ken Cline productions dotnet and you can download it and you can see it for free I hope they do it because this is ever since Trump said you know Jerusalem is the capital city and we're going to build our embassy there now all of a sudden the Jews are really excited because they think this is that this is the springboard for the their next the Third Temple so it may be we'll see but this guy Omar and his and his deeds are recorded in these Ganesa letters which are documents explaining all that happened and I think they found it in a synagogue somewhere in Cairo I don't know where they are at today I would assume they're in France at the Louvre or probably the British Museum I don't know where they reside today but important historical documents that detail all of these things out that are that go to where the temple really was yeah and again you know that the connection here between the Gihon spring and the temple in the southern city southern section of the city and we should explain that as well because what people see today and what they think of when when they when they look at Jerusalem really is not what it was anciently know the ancient city of David or Jerusalem which by the way City of David Jerusalem they're synonymous same same place same plate it was about a third of a mile away from the current temple mount's as I understand that's right in the southern say matter of fact if you look at an aerial view of this it looks like a crescent-shaped hill yeah and we have we have a high satellite photo of it you can see it for yourself in the film we did all that work so people could see that where the City of David was you can't from space so it's pretty cool yeah yeah so you know we know in archaeology knows where it's at today you know they discovered about a hundred hundred fifty years ago so this is somewhat of a new finding still and they're still uncovering many things matter of fact a major excavation is occurring right now in the City of David you know le shukran I've had the opportunity he let our first tour in Israel and just just a phenomenal guy love le yeah he's a loveable man definitely an invaluable resource in many ways and and anyway he gave us a tour but but there's no doubt based on what I understand with scholarship that the City of David which is a national park now is the old city of David it is the old site of JPS or the roots Louisville City exactly yeah so you know these families again the southernmost section of the city or that would be the City of David they said where the temple was right where the Gihon spring of the pull of Shalom was that's well within matter of fact the pool of Siloam if you look at it is in the south west corner I believe in the City of David the south east south east well it's hard because it comes into the jaws it you know it's hard to say but I think it's the southeast but it's in the southern section of the city of things right so they say they want to be close to the pool of siloam the Gihon spring in other words yeah and because that's where the temple was right so again I think we see evidence for this historical account of where the temple was I want to look in a two quotes and can I absolutely you know if he's still on the Mount of all of it okay and you were looking west from the mount of all of it mm-hmm and you looked at the City of David from that point of view you can have you can actually see how the City of David's geographical structure was cut down you can see where Simon actually excavated so that there would not be a mount design you can see if you're on up with your own is amazing yeah the cuts are still there and Mount Zion which would have been at the southern end of the City of David is gone it's no more because all that retracting we're gonna look at this in a in a future program when we talk about fortress Antonio but we know through Josephus that he says that fortress Antonio was on the third highest hill we know historically you had the City of David yeah and then a little bit higher in elevation you had the old full mount and we'll talk about and then above that we have the what they call the traditional or that the Temple Mount today and we believe that's where fortress antonia stood during the time of here and as you around I think at the previous program right this was actually build with the Hasmoneans by by the Maccabees and then he read later further in a three-fight that's right the fortress Antonia which was originally called the tower and a and we'll get into all these specifics later all right but no that's certainly important because you can see when you stand as you said on the Mount of Olives and you look down toward Jerusalem you can see of course the Temple Mount but you can also see the city of Dave that's right and matter one of the things that you can see and I is the Milo I don't know if you've looked at that but within the City of David you have the offal and you have the City of David and we know biblically the Solomon it says he filled in the Milo and you can see or at least we believe that you can see the stones that Solomon filled in the ravine he filled in conduct to connect the actual city of David and a Milo because before that there was a ravine yeah it has separated the city of David from the Milo and of course from the etre traditional Temple Mount is is I like to call it so yeah you can see all that archaea all the all the geography there from the from the Mount of Olives well we got to go back to Jerusalem no we're gonna go okay we're gonna do another video on these details so people can see it from those cells it really does help yeah I mean it's in value you know when you're standing on the Mount of Olives you yeah but you know unless you get a picture of it you can't figure it out it's just so we got it and hopefully we can put in some footage here too so absolutely what we're referring to there's two accounts there's two historic historical accounts mentioning a spring and I want to read both maybe just read them both and then we can talk about it so the first one is actually from Eusebius but this is a recording former rustiest now riskiest as I understand it was an Alexandrian Jew who lived about second century BCE so 200 years before the Common Era and here's what Eusebius records he says here's there's an inexhaustible reservoir of water as would be expected from an abundant spring gushing up natural from with the now he's talking about the temple he says there being more of our wonderful and indescribable cisterns underground and we see that in the City of David we see all these cisterns underneath the actual city that the city today they're being moreover anyway it goes on to say of five four lungs according to this showing all around the foundation of the temple so there's a connection with this temple and countless pipes from them so that the streams on every side meet together and all these have been fastened with the lead at the bottom of the sidewalls and over these has been spread a great quantity of plaster they would do that they would put plaster on the rocks and it looked I'm sure very different from what it does today all having been carefully round so that again that's Eusebius as a Canterbury rustiest and a radius again second century now and this is just as incredible the the next one is tackett ist's and he was a historian Roman history Roman now here's a thing ro Tackett is lived 2nd century CE II so we got 2nd century BCE and second cent so these guys were four hundred years apart right one being a Jew one being a Roma but they they they confirm the same the same fact so here's what a katha says he says a temple resembled a citadel or tower fortress and he had its own walls which were more laboriously constructed than the others even the colonnades which were covered bridges and we'll talk a little bit about that more later with which it was surrounded formed and admire oval outward it contained an inexhaustible spring an inexhaustible spring clearly the guy huh yeah there were subterranean excavations in the hill and tanks and cisterns for holding rainwater the foundations of the state had foreseen that frequent wars would result from the singularity of his customs and so had made very provision against the most protected siege or protected sea so so we see according to again a rustiest sand according to Tackett is the there there was this inexhaustible better affected both say inexhaustible one says Rose over one says spring but you're right yeah this is a reference to the Gihon spring absolute and so I witness accounts are powerful testimonies of what was going on and and this through their eyes we can see some idea of the construction of how Jerusalem is not only well defended but it was well watered and which is a key to the whole thing and it's awesome to hear I mean you're really up to speed on these guys I've read through them before and not have paid as much attention but I think those are great facts when this the other thing too is there's no spring on the Temple Mount that's right the traditional Temple Mount yeah you know that the Harriman's is some call it the noble sanctuary there are cisterns right but there's no spring that is what we see here there this inexhaustible spring gushing forth that's right that there's nothing historically that would tie that to the traditional Temple Mount the Gihon was underground by the time it passed by the Temple Mount it was two to three hundred yards farther south than the the Temple Mount so there was no water near what people call the Temple Mount to facilitate not only the city which you can be misled by the walls around the old city that's the old city is really not the old 50 no and you're right you know people look at the temple mountain and they see the walls yeah and they assume that's right there that's the old city and that's not that's not filthy is about a third of a mile south and you can see it again it's a national park today and if anybody has the opportunity to go to Israel they need to see this absolutely need to see the City of David that you meant to go down because the thing is you know talks about here this inexhaustible reservoir of water but we also know because you've been there there there's you know says pipes and tunnels and cisterns or we see that underneath the city of David I mean all of it that the description we see here from these men tax price and in Aristeas everything we find here is within or underneath today at the City of David and if you take a tour in Jerusalem today you will be led astray not only where Jesus died but the tradition of where the temple was and all of these places that you go to they take you to are really it's like a religious Disneyland not true and the only way to really get a good mental picture is to go there yourself and maybe we should take a tour take people with us and guide them through it because there's no way to really figure it out just by seeing a little fragment I mean you can get little windows but when you get there and see it and can feel it and almost taste it it just changes the way you think about everything it's really you know beyond the fact that there's no gushing spring on the Temple Mount today the the traditional Temple Mount we also see here again that there's these great underground reservoirs and cisterns and pipes and tunnels most believe that the temple again set over basically the Dome of the rock that rock that exists today but if you go to the Dome of the rock from what I understand there's no major tunnel system were no cisterns underneath that well there's a there is there is though I know there's there's a small but not not that would describe what we find from Tackett isn't it no no but but just to be clear on the northern part of the old city if you're going up the Damascus Gate and facing north and took a right turn about a hundred yards 150 yards is a tunnel anything that goes under they call it Jeremiah's grotto and it's like looking at a giant geode you can walk in there and they had all kinds of things going on inside there probably when when the when the Ark of the Covenant was lost when when the temple was being destroyed when when the Romans were destroying the city when they got sucked into the war between the Sadducees and the Pharisees the civil war probably they a lot of Jews escaped through this tunnel because it goes all the way to Jericho I mean it's and and it widens into this big almost like at a huge amphitheater and it's like I said it's like walking into a giant geode and and most likely hundreds of years before that when the temple was destroyed by the Babylonians most likely Jeremiah took the Ark of the Covenant through this passageway all the way out of town and because it's nobody knows where it is well of course bob cornuke ii says it's a neat if that's the truth then why didn't Pharaoh died when he touched it because you we're not allowed to touch the artifical unless you were a priest and I don't think Pharaoh was a pretty so it's to me but just in terms of the geography if you haven't gone to this place it's like wow yeah it's right under the the upper echelon of the Haram or the Temple Mount and it's like it's like I said this amazing amphitheater place underneath it most people don't even know about but it's it's another one of those places that the tour's don't take you and most likely this was escape routes for Jews in the 70s and for so where does that tunnel begin well it like I said if you come out the Damascus Gate you know the Damascus which is the norther gate and if you turned right okay and just want there's a walkway right right up it almost against the wall that's the the northern wall you'd come right to it I think I've been under that tunnel it sets right along the yeah right yeah yeah yeah have you walked through there they have okay so you and then you Mellie now that I don't have feed into the the Dome of the rock it's underneath of it oh it's underneath of it yes yes I'm from no no what I'm saying is is is the the City of David yeah the Tackett just mysterious yeah they speak about these tunnels going down well there's a number of tunnels under the city of David too and they go out into the where the Kidron and they value the gene I'm familiar well that it is well I want to read one quote and then and I think we'll done close this okay and let's see you can't really see it unless you go there I mean absolutely yeah yeah you have to go there an experienced Africa literature so I want to read Joel 3 and Joel as we understand is a prophetic passage yeah and what intrigues me about this is it also mentions a reservoir of water so it says that social you know that I am Yahweh Elohim dwelling in Zion and of course we know Zion is the City of David survived says my holy mountain right and then shelters to be holy and there shall no strangers pass through her anymore and it shall come to pass in that day that the mountains shall drop down new wine and the hills shall flow with milk and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with the waters in a fountain shall come forth out of the house of Yahweh or what is a house of Yahweh that would be a reference of the temple and it says here that a fountain would come forth so from from my perspective this is really referring to the same type of gushing spring the Tackett s and also rustiest refers to within their historical writing so I think even biblically now whether you believe this future or not you know we find scripture again connecting the house of Yahweh with this gushing spring but anyway like to thank you you know again for your time we're not done with this by the way we have several more programs to do on this and uh just a thank you for your expertise and your insight because I know you've done a lot of study into this so thank you again thank you like to of thank you also for watching today and I would encourage you to watch all these programs is it really is important to understand the Temple Mount it's important understand where it was historically not according to tradition and you know as believers is an obligation we have to really look deep into scripture to understand what is truth and understand what is not truth and I think if you look at the evidence you're going to come to the same conclusion we have and that is that the temple is not within today's a traditional Temple Mount but was within the City of David so again like to thank you for watching and may you have a bless you bye-bye thank you for joining us for another episode of shattering traditions this program is 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Length: 49min 4sec (2944 seconds)

Published: Fri May 25 2018