The Dark Story Of London's Infamous Kray Twins | The Rise And Fall Of The Krays | Timeline Classics

foreign [Applause] Reggie cray the twins who became the Undisputed bosses of East End Gangland were they born villains or did fate shape them for the role a lot of people stole things because they were angry they'd now have a means to live I know people say oh we are other people go out the East end and they made it it's not like that for everybody I mean some people more brainy than others have more chances and in your life you mean to go one way and you're pulled another it's not the individual four all the time the craze had got something about them that was almost indefinable to say that they were personalities is wrong because they projected an aura of evil of power they would resort to violence at the slightest provocation to establish a reputation and this they did very very successfully so that not only foreigners and people that intruded in the into the East end but members of their own gang respected them because of that violence but if the craze were so evil why did the community in which they lived put up with them for so long in London's poorer quarters the line between right and wrong had long been blurred many of life's Simple Pleasures were outlawed by the state late night drinking card and dice games and of course betting I mean I lived in a place called southgrow buildings what was a big old block of flats there was at least three bookmakers and they used to take the bets and they all got a living and all of a sudden they might say uh to my dead bone in my days you know Barney got Nikki today so at B's turned to get nicked they'd take him to court illegal bookmaking street bookmaking might get found Fiverr the East End contained many illegal drinking and gambling clubs which were frequently targeted by the police playing cars and then the police was right here they take them to the police station after appear in court next one get fined tensions five whatever it was in them days and that's where the people thought what what are we doing wrong all we're doing is playing cards we're not doing anything wrong and they're arresting us and so they lost their respect for them down the East End the police were sort of natural enemies in some extent and people didn't come running in with information unless it was to their benefit because there was so little respect for the law itself many EastEnders were unwilling to call on the police to investigate even serious crimes they're a community of Their Own they've left hard they've had a hard time but it was their ethics and a code of honor that you didn't normally grasp but this code of honor exposed the community to exploitation by professional criminals who turned it to their own advantage in the East End the law that was enforced was often the law of the cray twins Ronnie and Reggie the twins ran that pile of London like an iron rod there was nothing that went on in the East End that they didn't know about if there was a wrong doing get off the manor because they would come down on you like a ton of bricks well you know they keep saying about protection they was running the protection racket it wasn't actually like it sounds you would go they would go into a place and say if you don't give me a little we look after if you don't pay this you'll be in trouble and all that the people actually used to go to them and want them to look after it let it be known that they was looking after a place I wasn't actually I suppose it is a protection racket in a way but it was worked on a different basis people used to go to them and ask them to look after them there were lots of people that were walking into pubs pubs that were taking a lot of money in those days remember we were talking about the early 60s when live music and good entertainment was uh throughout the East End throughout every part of London and protection money was being asked for and therefore rather than pay three four five Temple is um it's better to go and ask Ronnie around your cray could you just appear for 10 minutes or have one or two drinks in our Pub on a Saturday night once it was known as a public The Craze used then that public and didn't have any more trouble they only went into people that were breaking the law you know like if you had a public and who was having a laugh to timer then they could go into him or if they had a club where they were doing illegal gambling dice spilling or similar they would go into them they want their work but no way could they ever go into straight people because the first if they come into you the first thing you do is pick the phone up give me the police and that was it so the only people they could intimidate were people they couldn't phone the place I was known as Reggie's Main scotch scotchy and Barry was known as Ronnie's Mane the twins themselves would would never like go on an organized robbery or a Plugin or anything like that they considered that the work of jailbirds in their own words but as soon as they heard of somebody who had it off they the first concern was did I know anyone on the team if they do then they would go in for their whack as it was known this year if he says I'm not going to give you any money you don't jump all over him you come back and you tell you he's not going to pay ah now that would be a different mission go and get three or four guys and go and sit on his house or a pub or a clubberry drinks ain't getting my talking to you know send him to the hospital for a couple of days and then talk to him again that's that was every day firm work to take the heat off their activities as criminal overlords The Craze maintained an elaborate facade of public relations they they were very conscious of the Public Image they were they worked a lot on it and so what they would do is hire or use one of their own clubs and let it be known that they were organizing a charity night they didn't put their hands in their pockets and say oh I took at this I'm shocked about the the children's unit has got no scanner or whatever I'm going to put this money in no they would get other people to give it to them then they would hand it over the the cameras and whatever and take the glory from it news of these up-and-coming charitable Sportsmen was by now hitting Fleet Street but to some crime reporters the story didn't quite add up Norman Lucas of the Sunday Mirror sought to win The Craze confidence in search of the truth he found the twins at their Club The Double R there was a constant flow of villains in and out and they would stand at the other end of the bar and there would be whispered conversations and then Reggie would say well I won't be a minute and he'd detached himself and go along the other end of the bar and have whispered conversations with these various people it has said that I began to get my first suspicions that uh The Craze weren't what uh they were pretending to be very very honest chaps who were working for charities Norman Lucas nursed his suspicions about the craze but many patrons of the Double R saw nothing in the twins conduct to disturb them uh Ronnie and Richie were always the customer side of the bar with the customers they were just socializing the whole time you were never aware of any business going on whatsoever they were just in the company all the time as we always said if you want to be treated like a lady you'd be speaking to a villain I've I mean I've been invited to lots of Chelsea parties with who Ray Henry's I've heard language that I would never ever hear in the East End when I was out was alone in Reggie Craig God there'd be one look from his eyes if anyone dared to swear in front of his mother or his aunt or myself or any other lady in his presence say they used to come to the Astor you could feel you could feel a certain atmosphere the cray twins had arrived that was the atmosphere that people got I don't think it was fear it was just I suppose it well I suppose if the queen was to walk and every time I said look there's the queen there they were something a feeling would arise this Royal progress might have continued unchecked but for Ronnie's recurring bouts of mental instability in 1958 he was committed to a mental hospital after attacking a man with a Bayonet Reggie cray invited Norman Lucas to accompany him on a visit Reggie went in to this mental hospital and I thought Reggie came out and we drove off in a bit of a hurry Amazon I mean I was being driven I wasn't I was in their car and um so I turned around to Reggie like an idiot and said uh well um how was Ronnie and he said well I'm bloody Ronnie he said Reggie's in there now and I thought Jesus what have I got myself into I I said but but you you mean you're you're now an escaper and they said ah well I'm not really am I he said he shouldn't have put me in there in the first place I'm perfectly safe why should they do that and um I I I I I I I thought well no where the hell does this put me I mean I'm I'm just a newspaper man the switch pulled off Reggie walked free but Ronnie was now a fugitive and Lucas perhaps an accomplice with Reggie at his elbow Lucas called on contacts at the home office to negotiate a surrender deal for Ronnie with no penalties attached and I came off the phone and read you said I wouldn't have Bloody believed it if I hadn't been standing in the phone box he said what's he saying this man in the home office I said well you heard I said if Ronnie will give himself up now and at all tomorrow morning he will go back there but he won't necessarily stay there and uh very simple as bloody marvelous he said How's it you know such high-powered people at home office now all part of the jobbridge you're part of the job the job Lucas was really doing was penetrating The Craze Empire in order to expose them it wasn't easy but following Ronnie's release the police were having even less success it was always difficult to try to mount an action against the craze if you worked in the East End I mean the story always was that whenever there was a serious crying the East end it was down to the craze on two occasions I was approached by individuals one of whom had a small Club the other had a small business making perfume for these suitcase salad in Oxford Street both of whom were threatened by the crazed to pay their rent as they called it and if they didn't they got beaten up and in fact the chappie with the poor perfume he got his place burnt down and the answer is yes they got there by fear and the lack of evidence in July 1964 Scotland Yard set up a special Squad to investigate the craze racquets but even after Nipper Reed had taken the twins into custody key Witnesses mysteriously withdrew their evidence including one woman who had begged him to free her from The Craze when we said that we were taking these people away they were going to be arrested she fell down on her knees and grasped my legs in our arms and said thank God thank God you've saved my life and I said we'll come later and take a statement from you thinking that the next day would suffice but the next day of course as as happened in those days we'd arrested The Craze at one o'clock in the morning we they were charged and they appeared at court the next day the on that day when they appeared at Old Street magistrates Court this lady now resplendent in Furs and high-heeled chewed was there all very nicely dressed and saying Mr Reed I'd like to stand Bell for my good friends the cray twins and so Reid's first bid to jail The Craze collapsed with Ronnie and Reggie back on the streets they seemed invincible but crime reporter Norman Lucas had hit on a sensational story Lord boothby a leading member of the House of Lords had been caught up in a homosexual relationship with Ronnie cray Ronnie uh didn't hide the fact that he was a homosexual no he liked young boys young men there were writers there were the politicians like the famous ones like boothby dryburg and a few others supposing Ronnie might fancy a Showbiz so he used to put what they call a w out is a warrant anybody can get him back to the twins would get a payment some sort of cash we were all up at the West End somewhere One Night in this uh well-known Chinese place and we saw this guy sitting on his own erotic spot him and said who's that and somebody said that's Cliff Richards an up-and-coming style you know and uh oh I'd like to meet him you know so straight away there's a w out room if anyone can get him in to a meat that's all he's got to do oh Cliff I don't particularly like he's singing and all that but he don't seem a bad guy I wouldn't have hate to see him involved with that sort of person you know I thought well this has gone far enough for now I think I should write an expose a news story I knew that once I'd done that I was finished as far as the craze were concerned but it was a story which in my view needed to be published uh and uh and everybody needed to be made aware of of what they really were so that no more titled people or prominent show business people should be uh caught up in their web the problem was the sexual Revelation at the heart of the story the newspaper was delighted with the scoop and wanted to run it Lucas himself was not so sure I said well we can't we we can run the story about their Association with appear but we must not use the word homosexual because who are we going to call if boothby sues who can we call to prove this will be sued for liable but Lucas was overruled the newspaper's lawyer Philip Levy worked out a formula to protect the mirror from a libel action and Levy said well as long as you just say the priyadh approving a homosexual relationship between Ronald cray and the peer you will be safe and but don't mention Lord boothby's name the allegation was inserted into Lucas's story the mirror went ahead and published but then of course the the wars came tumbling down on the Monday because boothby did the most cunning thing in the world he wrote a letter at the time saying everybody says this is me and on that basis he sued us and got 46 000 pounds damages which as I learned just 48 hours later after he got the money he was forced to hand over to the craze who blackmailed him and said well if you don't we will say this is a true story now the cray twins seemed untouchable but the old Demons of paranoia returned to haunt Ronnie the slightest squeak of opposition was enough to trigger the most extreme of responses with runny it was different it was a bit more weird if you like because uh other people's violence if he heard about it he would get him to sit down give it to him detail by detail he he was definitely Freddy Krueger type person I mean Ronnie would smash somebody he would literally smash him you know with whatever he had in his hand doesn't matter if a hammer a bone it or an X or whatever he would just slice somebody for the wrong word one man with no respect was George Cornell who had publicly ridiculed Ronnie for his sexual preferences people said to him George you know you want to be careful you're going over the top you keep running one stand for this if you go you know what he is he's a Nutter that's what I previously he wants to have this and he carried on Canon Ronnie even said to me that how he thinks he is that Cornell he may not go too far with me in 1966 Cornell drove into the heart of great territory to take a very public drink in the blind beggar pub with his South London friend Alby Woods we walked in the pub we walked to the end of the bar George flunked his Hilt right in the corner we will be back to a petition and by the side of George there were some curtains which led into the public bowl and this was at 10 pound stage in the evening there were a number of other people in The Pub 32 people all together in fact and and the bar maid was behind the bar and so on it was the normal kind of evening in a pub of that kind when suddenly the door burst open and Ronnie cray walked in with another man I think someone has stopped a couple of feet before they've reached me and about a step backwards like you know near enough behind me I look back at George oh I looked I didn't I noticed there was a gun pointing at George I looked back at George quick George was really snarling at him sneering at him Ronnie Drew from his pocket eluga automatic gun and and just pointed it at Cornell's head and shot him straight through the forehead well it was absolutely terrible you you can imagine being there and there's people firing guns like in your direction and all I've got is a stall you know in front of me and you know it's what for I don't know it still wasn't going to do any good you don't think of nothing you know all I was thinking of it was any second night is going to be me within minutes the bar was empty people were gone the people that were with Cornell had left George was moaning and sort of groaning like you know anyway I stood up it was nothing I could do I knew the ambulance was on its way and I didn't want to get involved and I walked out the pub there was really no motive it was just a question of Ronnie trying to assert himself as a gang leader to show that he was like the Americans that he got his baton as they say that he'd killed his man he wanted to show his gang that he was really the colonel he wanted the public to know that he was a gang leader and so it was with this in mind that he was able to walk into the blind Beggars with 32 other people inside with no attempt to disguise himself confident because of his ability as a gang leader that he could walk in there and know that no one would give evidence against him Charlie Gray was unaware of the shooting a few hours later he was summoned to meet Ronnie he said oh After Shock oh no so oh boy in a pub you've gone in a pub and showed someone do me a favor you know what happened now you'll they'll have you but tomorrow don't worry about that Ronnie eluded the police but it wasn't long before they caught up with Alby Woods they said right now we want you a name who killed Jules Cornell I said I don't know I said I never saw a new face because it happened so quickly I said and you know just that they were standing behind me I said the shot you know when the right across my face into George oh and when we tried to get Witnesses people said they didn't see anything they didn't hear anything you know it's as if the thing had never happened the barmaid said she was downstairs she was in the cellars trying to get some more drinks up and things of that kind and so that there was this desperate situation where suddenly this this dramatic event had taken place and nobody had seen anything but they kept trying and putting plenty of pressure on and you know but uh with all the pressure and all what I was offered you know why could they win with me I'd sooner being inside for the rest of my life than you know glass people up when I think about the Cornell case and all the problems that was the really the beginning of the worst problems I was ever going to have when I knew what happened when they told me I thought I was just sick and tired you know and I thought then that this is the beginning of the end further evidence of Ronnie's deteriorating condition was the extraordinary scheme to Spring his old friend mad axeman Frank Mitchell from Dartmoor jail in the Absurd hope that it would force the home office to Grant him an early release in fact it was hardly an escape at all Mitchell simply walked away from a Mulan work party and was picked up in a car by Donahue we're actually in Fulham when he came on the news that he'd been reported missing anyway he ran up in effect over embarking and he started performing you imagine if all the psychiatrists and screws and whatevers can't control this guy what chance the twins got you know yeah we got him a girl Hostess out one of the clubs keeping quiet that worked for a couple of weeks but it soon became clear that Frank Mitchell was more trouble alive than dead they wanted him to give himself up and go back to prison but of course it was too late then Mitchell had enjoyed this Comfort relative Comfort he'd enjoyed the the pleasures of this young girl and so he said no I'm not going back and then he became an encumbrance and so then it was decided that they got to do something very positive about him they told Mitchell that he was going to another house in in Kent it has never been proved who was behind the events that unfolded next pack up get him out of the flat take him around the corner the guy stood on the pavement opened the back of his old Thames type van I get in there's two guys sitting on a wheel casing on the left the wheel casing on the right is empty so Frank got in first I went to sit beside him they said no you go up the front and told the driver how to get back to the tunnel and I'm Santa to drive a lot of plumber I'm saying just go down do a right and a right on your back on barking Road in the meantime the guy shut the back doors he's come round to where he's going to sit in a passenger door gets in the van is running now he gets in as he slams a passenger door I later found out that was the signal I'm still leaning like an idiot talking to the driver Bow Wow the guns start off behind me and it just kept popping them in and he came off the case in under his knees and then he fell back and these bullets were going all over him then he sort of went still one of the guys leaned over and put three shots in around the heart you could see the shirt jumping and then now we're moving we've done the first right we're going up we've got to do the next right all of a sudden these are grown so the guy said yeah he ain't dead give him another one I'm empty now I'm started thinking I've got to go as well here I'm piggy in the middle yeah I was pleased to hear one guy is empty anyway the other guy puts the gun behind his ear and pup that's the last shot that was fired now I'm thinking the next thing I can do is dive in this cab amongst these two and just start kicking and punching until I can get out I'm firmly convinced I'm gonna die anyway we now come back up to the old barking road so I said right all you got to do drop me off here hopefully so the back door was opened I got out and I started walking away and I still waiting for one in the back of the nut as I was walking away but when I heard the van pull off that was it I was pleased Ronnie's lust for violence was beyond control has increased the pressure on Reggie his marriage to Childhood sweetheart Francis Shea was cracking under the strain of her husband's criminal lifestyle well she would smile but I mean what's a smile you know you can sit in a dentist chair and open your mouth he looks like you're smiling but it was a lot of Glamor too I suppose and it must have looked nice at the time but when she actually saw hair the whole thing was made up with Ronnie screaming in the background and going into his troughs she must have got sick of probably frightened of it as well see because in the early days they were both homosexual and then Reggie sort of came away from it he has asked me how you actually touch a woman to make her excited liven her up he didn't know where you touched or how you touch her all and uh be honest with you I don't think he knew where to put it while he was married the problem was an ordinary person would have had a gone through a divorce and met someone else now she couldn't do that if you can imagine some handsome young chap falling for frowny cry and Reggie heard about it you know he couldn't have his legs cut off you know so she could never have another life sort of thing just two years after her celebrity style wedding Franny Craig killed herself with an overdose of sleeping tablets I've never known anywhere in my life to idolize someone I did a he really did I'd love it and when she died it's Lord Reggie he was taking tranquilize as he was drinking and he was never in a right frame mind for a long long time it just crucified him distraught with grief Reggie Gray was unable to help Ronnie in his desperate struggle with Madness if you went to the house you would see him sitting in his armchair and he'd be like this it would be chain smoking and if you pop in these heavy pills and scaling needs to scale a lot and if somebody said something it'd be like a general conversation going on and if he wanted to listen to one particular person he'd shut up you and now you know it was time to shut up you know because see with Ronnie you could say to him one day time to go down the Caravan or something you look like you're putting on a bit of weight that'd be okay you could say exactly the same thing tomorrow and you would have to fight for your life still no one dared to give evidence against Ronnie but any chance he might have had of getting away with the murder of George Cornell was smashed the night his brother Reggie killed Jack mcvitty with a carving knife I'm just giving you a background of what Jeff review is like and it came at a point where I think people started to give it to that was in bad math and people all of a sudden rewarding now what I want to do something's wrong the White Ridge was red we'd all been drinking that night because he was biting his lip when she wasn't sure I always got the opinion he wasn't sure what was going on and he said who's downstairs check that down now wouldn't you and he bit his lip I come upstairs to get a pack of cigarettes on the machine and Tony battery's walking all the cover oh I ran long Kells so we go down to Blanca hotels which is never in Road we're having a bit of a joke on the way down then we go in we go down the stairs check those running in the room where's the party where's the party I'm gonna walk in the room I see Ronnie over the corner watching television and the next one he push past me when I was told you and he hit check on the eye of the glass the gym glass the glass it was and he came under the left eye but the next one happened Bridge's got a knife in his hand it was a brand new one come on man I don't believe this is happening these are professional people I mean these are the most professional villains in London you don't do these kind of things otherwise I got myself involved in here and I said too I think it was Connie why I said Connie I don't want no part of this this is so out of order and Ronnie Craig came out and he said what's the matter Chris and Connie said he doesn't wait it didn't come down here for this in the meantime Jack Johnson and this is what exactly happened he walked over to the window and he punched the window and the words you said with this who would they feel like oh and he punched the window in tender for the first time I was scared that's what I really felt I've never told anybody there and in some in some ways I feel like coward there was a part of me wanted to run in and just help the guy out and a part of me held back because I had Tony was there and I mean I didn't know what he knew or what he didn't know so I'm really on the order that dilemma you know whichever way I'll turn I mean I've got a short hand over my head when the gunfight the court I didn't I thought that would be it but then again I looked back on it and my family so he had to go you couldn't leave him three now we'd set him up we'd put him in the middle there was no way out whatever way it did he's gonna have to go the next one happened there's a carving knife is slightly Shazam now things are moving fast and all I saw was the North it must have stabbed him twice for his seconds because I see his Sagan the mixer happened bridged under in the neck and the knife arched and that's underway then and as I turned around again I saw two Mills Brothers running out of the room and there's check on the floor and he had a cash in his neck which I would say and a third of the way around his neck but he was dead the blood was everywhere and there's a there was just a silence there for about 30 seconds no one seemed to realize what had happened everyone was looking at each other and all that happened then was there's really going to say to me get rid of that Tony and they're gone I went in went downstairs and there's the the body layer there but it's hard to understand unless you he was in my boots I just didn't think he was dead I just couldn't imagine him and he's laying there in front of me I thought he was going to come alive I thought he was asleep I just didn't think he was dead then we heard a knock from upstairs and uh it was Tony I said to my brother and Ronnie Ben that's a wolf what did we do here now the idea is to get him out of that flat went upstairs and got a a quill you know what a big fleecy kind of quilts old-fashioned kind of got one of them got Jack's body put him on the on the quill and wrapped it over left him in the middle of the floor and systematically went through the whole house washing up glasses carpet pulled that up where there was blood stains and all that kind of thing come about maybe three o'clock maybe between two and three where we ran the body out to the car lifted up the boot and actually put the body in the blanket and all that in the car in the boo of the car pull the lid down we then have an argument about it who's going to drive it away because nobody wants to be seen that time in the morning bearing in mind that I don't know that the offside lamp is not on it was a two-tone zodiac blue and cream if I remember it right client and the other guy got in my car and Tony set off in that car in Jack's Car now we pull out and we get onto mystery and we're going down nursery and I've got this 38. now why am I gonna let anybody take Tony and he arrival it was widely stopped it would have been trouble there was no one shouldn't take a stop with it so there's a police car pulls up it's between Tony and I and I thought if they stop him I'm going to get out and I'm going to do the business and I let the other guy with me know that some reason or other they turned off and Charlie went on and he went through the Blackwood tunnel and I followed him up and I went through after him a few hours later the car with mcvitty's body in it was abandoned in South London for the twins [Music] was he a grass was it a rock as Charlie Gray told his twin brothers we could have had a fabulous life before these murders we had it made and we could have gone to better things and as I said you too would have been somebody he was fighting a lot and I said now I think it's gone if you've blown it everything you know her mother father may you we're gonna go I know we are and everything's finished the police were now investigating the craze involvement in at least three murders at last they felt they had the evidence needed to mop up the firm we're here early this morning with flying Squad officers and they're still here they were in bed when the squad called at their home in shoreditch at about six o'clock this morning Donohue escaped the net and I didn't know anything that happened till I get I get in the lift go up to the I forget what floor they were on I walk alone and I see there's two coppers outside their flat even that wouldn't normally worry me too much I see their front doors standing up against the wall and I thought oh yeah and one of these coppers said who are you I said my name is Donegal I've got a cab firm in Beau and I have a running account with Mr cry and I'll come once a week to collect anyway very politely tells me I won't collect that particular week and piss off so I did and I was gone and I went all over the place wound up in bethnal green three weeks later the squad came in and it was it wiped up nicked somebody said maybe what about the crows so no I haven't he said they've all been arrested they made a dawn raid well it wasn't a matter of weeks before I was staying in a hotel called the hearts in Walsall that the police made a raid there and brought me down that's inside your house at their headquarters on the South Bank of the Thames the investigating team headed by Leonard Nipper Reed was searching for the first cracks in the wall of Silence that protected The Craze you see this was a conspiracy between a number of people and when you get that situation unless one or other is prepared to to give evidence for the crown then it's impossible to break that silence I tried it as I've explained with three of the participants and all of them had rejected my overtures and if a civil do you want to talk to us now so I said no I don't want to talk to you why should I want to talk to you we are asking you what you know about the murderer check that how it may be I say I don't know nothing well as we've got it you were there but it took the actual part in the murder uh in fact you quietly protested about it so I don't know what you're talking about so I'm not I'm not only defended I mean I'm with them anyway there's no way I can get out of it if I want to change solicitors I'm going to offend them you understand what I mean so really there was no way of even fighting the case um and really I mean there were in many respects anything you said to defend yourself put them in in in in in in a very very bad position so invariably we said nothing this was a Twitter concerned it didn't happen we can't be seen to be uh science Summit did happen when they denied all knowledge of it that's a nail in their coffin and bearing in mind we were women we were involved here it's not our rare but really involved so we've got to sing with them whether we like it or not people have said to me many times I wouldn't have done that but they haven't got a look in the mirror it's me who's got to look in the mirror at the end of the day and I have to live with it and I couldn't stand before that anything I said would help to convict men and put them down for that length of time but the Persistence of Nipper and his team was rewarded one after another former cray Associates broke the criminal Code of Silence and turned Queen's evidence anyway I've got for as soon as it was a visit it's called I walk in the room is the Twins and Charlie cray an Old Manny 3D sitting down there's an empty chair for me so we're all sitting down so they say to me what do you reckon I said well this is what I've made notes I've made Reggie takes the notes reads them and just ripped him up when he sees this freely he gets up he says I'll go and get another chair before we're all sitting down he just wanted to be out in a room so he don't hear Ronnie says don't bother with notes Albert he said what we're gonna do Scotch Jack is going to hold his hands up for Cornell young Ronnie's going to hold his hands up reject it and we want you to hold your hands up for Mitchell and we'll take all the violence and frauds what a wonderful chat you know so I looked in it and I said no and well the temperature went down in that room about 10 degrees straight away and they're just staring at me so that was it I am now off the firm 3D comes back smells it and he said my boy just because you're not a cray doesn't mean you won't get the same treatment since yeah finish Donahue trusted his Instinct he pleaded guilty to a lesser offense of being an accessory to murder and was sent to prison for two years the most damning witness of all proved to be run Ronnie Hart The Craze owned cousin one's heart I've decided to tell us who was present what their involvement was and the fact that they were present of course makes them guilty of the murder indeed as as guilty as Reggie crowd actually wielded the knife once he had given that evidence we could charge all of them which which we did he said you want to go down with him you're going to go down with him don't stand no nonsense off him charging Ronald and Reginald Frey were sentenced to life with a recommendation that they should serve a minimum of 30 years Chris and Tony lambriano were also sentenced to life they didn't come out for 15 years Charlie cray was sentenced to ten years for being an accessory to murder but in the East End there were mixed feelings about the verdicts when the twins finally got nicked and they got they got found guilty and what happened to him I was very very upset very upset because even though people think they was uh murderous villains gangsters I mean there's a lot of people done a lot worse than them got a lot less for it and still getting less for it and then a lot of people's eyes they'll still go as two nice boys even though it's might strange sounds to you they will be known still be known as two nice boys I mean the whole of these damn was devastated I don't think they ever dreamed nobody in the event thought they'd be sentenced to 30 years minimum sentence but one of the architects of their downfall has no such sympathy I I didn't consider them to be friends as such uh okay I I I enjoy having a drink with anybody and I enjoy listening to anybody's stories of this or that but I felt that at the end of the day it it was I was going to get a first class story out of it possibly a book a feature series and do a public service in exposing them and I had no Scruples about using them and calling them as much as I could [Music] [Music] foreign

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Keywords: True Crime London Gangsters, history documentary, british history

Id: hvuOPG5kMbM

Length: 47min 38sec (2858 seconds)

Published: Thu Jul 27 2023