The Resettling of the Americas Before Columbus (Part 12)

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I've been watching this series by Jeanson. The last episode, A Revolution in Pre-Colombian History (https://youtu.be/VJmrp14XV3c) was the most relevant to this topic and is just ultra-interesting. The next episode (this post) premiers tomorrow. The entire series is super interesting and definitely worth a watch.

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Here's part 12: https://youtu.be/D5RUQ-OLWkU

Part 13: https://youtu.be/_Kj6KowXXtM

Part 14: https://youtu.be/EPlzYLRXEfo

Part 15: https://youtu.be/aotCCNxgjeY

Part 16: https://youtu.be/vsKo9wI0eW4

The rest of the parts can all be found on AiG's YouTube. I specifically posted this one as it relates to (and the other parts before and after it) pre-Columbian genetic/archaeological evidence as is relevant to one of my other older posts about Jeanson (https://www.reddit.com/r/Creation/comments/g9d2go/more_creationist_predictions_confirmed_amerindian/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf). I higley recommend watching the full series.

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well hi everyone here we are for part 12 with dr. Daniel Jensen on rewriting history now this particular episode the resettling of the Americas before Columbus what happened in the Americas before Columbus what is the history of Native Americans this is going to be very very interesting so dr. Nathaniel Jenson continued on with part 12 I want to say at the outset that there's multiple things we're gonna accomplish in this episode there's gonna be some radically new history we're gonna learn because the history is so explosive I want to defend it at the outset and derive it going from the present backwards and in doing so we're gonna see one of the strongest evidences for the young earth timescale it exists we're gonna look at the y-chromosome family tree what I'm gonna show you we're gonna start by saying does the y-chromosome family tree reflect what we know about what happens after Columbus last episode we talked about the fact that there was a massive population die-off we're gonna discuss how genetics can actually give you the smoking gun of this and how it's only the young earth time scale that sees it so we're gonna start with what everyone knows evolutionists do you say yes there was a massive population die-off I'm gonna say it's only the young earthers that can see this that's that's one of the first steps and so that's what also should help convince people what the shocking things I'm gonna tell them what happened before Columbus are there for true that's our control it's it has an apologetic purpose it has historical purpose we're gonna see that what we what we know from archeology what we know from these records what even mains for people are saying yes this is what happened I'm gonna say and it's only our genetics that reflect this evolutionists don't see this they can't see this this is a strong confirmation of the difficult time scale and it also gives us brand new insights into what happened before Columbus that's all we're going to try to accomplish in the next 30 minutes part of this larger question of who do we come from who who are the people that are our ancestors given all of our differences culturally linguistically physically that we see today and how do we relate to these people in the ancient past we're gonna get a little bit closer to this question as it relates to the earliest people in the Americas we're going to do that today so who are the Native Americans mainstream scientists would say their history their ancestry is ancient going back in mainstream timescales to the last ice age the Native Americans came across from Asia due to the land bridge that formed came perhaps down the Pacific coast perhaps on the ice-free core and based on the earliest archaeological science we can find this happened 15,000 years ago you might have heard the term Folsom or Clovis this refers to the specific types of points that they can find this is a Clovis point and based on other carbon-14 and other in radiometric dated sites across the Americas they say they came across and boom dispersed across the Americas in short order we'll talk about the limitations of carbon-14 dating for these ancient dates and future episodes what we're going to do today is independently test this with genetics because genetics has a clock within ourselves we'll talk about this more in a minute so the mainstream timescale says they came across 15,000 years ago where this isolated culture that didn't interact with anyone for over 10,000 years until Europeans arrived in 1492 there was some interaction with Leif Ericson maybe around a thousand that wasn't permanent the first permanent narrative starts 1492 then with the Pilgrims and so on so there's this meeting of very ancient cultures that hadn't encountered one another for ten thousand years that's what mainstream scientists says and because the Europeans have developed bigger technology they overcame their poorly armed opponents we saw of course that part of the narrative was wrong based on mainstream science itself in our previous episode there were massive numbers of people here who underwent a dramatic population collapse so that when the US Army pushes westward they're encountering a relic of the people who were once here and so the seeds of this this outcome were sown centuries prior we've seen that these people were not primitive we go through the rain forest today cloud forests oh this must've been the way it always was not true we can dig down below the surface mainstream archaeology says no these are not primitive peoples these are survivors of a recently shattered culture to quote Charles man man's book 1491 we've seen it researchers it's ongoing even since then looking at a cloud forest in Ecuador you look at the plant materials and one of the lakes that they looked at you can see evidence for plants that are consistent with the cloud force but you dig down further in the 1606 grassland and around the time the columbus it's a it's a farmland this was not a cloud forest a rainforest these people had transformed their environment around the time of Columbus and this is all changed within a few centuries it's not the way it appears these were not leftovers from the Stone Age recently shattered survivors have a recently shuttered culture so if this much of mainstream science and and stereotypical views can change that fast due to archaeology within the last few decades could this narrative and this aspect of the narrative fall as well is it really something that happened 15,000 years ago are they all the descendants are today's Native Americans all the descendants of the first Americans time and genetics would tell a different story that we wouldn't ought from mainstream sources for years and because of what I'm going to tell you again it's so explosive it's worth especially this juncture to review what we've covered in previous episodes because these lessons apply and living cult and color to this question of who were the Native Americans the world is smaller than we think the world population has grown dramatically this has dramatic consequences we saw an episode one for how closely related we are same song second verse in Episode two looking at the math of how many ancestors we have this must mean people are much more connected than we think they are this implies that ethnic and change hand can have it much more quickly than we think we've looked at basic genetics in Episode three they say yes this is very easy and if you combine that with how fast or slow people can reproduce if you combine that with the fact that slight differences in reproductive rates this family has two kids this family has three apply that over multiple generations and one group can overtake the other yet look like the second group we've seen it the majority of Europeans Western and Eastern Europeans are the descendants of Central Asians even though they don't look like Central Asians episode 4 is key to understanding how that possibly can occur and the key to all of this is the recognition based on the clocks within ourselves and especially those clocks that mark off male inheritance we've seen that our family trees much shower much shorter than we think it's only 200 generational steps from Noah 8 people to the nearly 8 billion people today this is gonna force our family trees to come to come together quickly and episodes 5 & 6 went through the technical reasons why it's the male inherited DNA that's the key and while the female inherited DNA the mitochondrial DNA marks off 6,000 years there's statistical noise we just can't be that precise with it to get into the details of history starting with Europe on this tree we've seen the lost relatives of Europe some of them are in India some of them in Central Asia there's many people who are of Mongol descent and don't know it we've seen there's an ancient Chinese connection to Eastern Europe we've looked at the question of who settled the Americas after Columbus there's a hidden history of the vast majority of European descent Americans even Latin Americans have strong European descent I say European but the ancestors of most Americans and of Western Europeans are not who we think they are they are Central Asians so see those early earlier episodes for that for the justification for that but I want our viewers to see that this revolution this rewriting of how we think about who we are and we're going to see this in a dramatic way today for the Native Americans it's just part of a consistent pattern we're seeing around the globe this is something unique to the Americas we've seen this in a living color for Europeans we've begun to scratch the surface literally in the previous episode looking at archaeological discoveries and mainstream science that rewrite our understanding today we want to look at the resettling of the Americas before Columbus now we typically think of resettling as after Columbus it's the Europeans who came in and resettled after wiping out the Native American what once was Native American land well who are these people who do they come from apart from written records tracing back genealogies for hundreds of generations tens new 100 or more generations the only way you can answer this is with DNA now in previous episodes we mentioned that there was this mainstream scientific study of multiple populations 26 populations around the globe this is the 1,000 genomes project that look at 26 people groups multiple people within each group 50 or so men from each of these groups and looked at their DNA and even though this doesn't cover a lot of the map here we looked at the fact that this covers a lot of the places of where the people are these are population dense centers of the globe so it's a good first pass look at what our DNA looks like globally and within this study there were four groups here in the Americas of Native American ancestry these are the two red ones where African Americans in Oklahoma and people of African descent in Barbados and obviously of African descent in their DNA if you wanted a Native American history you need to look at these groups right here so there were Mexicans in Los Angeles Porto Ricans in Puerto Rico Colombians and methane Columbia and Peruvians from Lima there were there's been three major studies of Native American y chromosome DNA that I want to highlight this is the first one there was a second study we looked at that if the the first study was taking a narrow slice of the global pie but trying to look deeply at their history this takes a much wider slice of the global pie but looks more shallow many more people groups represented but only a few man a handful of men from each and in this and in this particular study only a handful of Native Americans these were about three groups of people from Northwestern Argentina there was a third study focusing exclusively or almost exclusively on indigenous Americans and you can see there's a whole bunch of people's study with a heavy emphasis in Latin America and Latin America of course if you remember from previous episode is worth it in terms of pre-columbian times where the people were most concentrated only about four million people in the Americas North America and north of the Rio Grande upon the arrival of Columbus 26 million in Central and sentence and in Central America in the Caribbean and about 24 million and these are rough estimates highly debated in South America well I want to focus on this particular study all three of these studies give results that are consistent with each other this particular study even though it sampled a little bit of South America it has the highest quality data and it's a tree we've looked at before again this is a family tree where time moves from left to right not from top to bottom the Native American section of this tree is found up here in light gray to zoom in this is what the people look like I've mentioned in previous episode scientists assigned letters and numbers to give you sort of a shorthand to know where you are on the tree the major divisions that branch off from the beginning are assigned letters and if those major branches get subdivided that you give a number to each of those subdivisions and then a letter a number and letter numbers you keep going through the tree well this particular major branch is assigned the letter hew to zoom in here just to see who's on this tree he knows it's I've shown you not just in gray that the Native Americans they have a closed genealogical relationship in pink here with Siberian people's you may not know recognize these names sell cups and cats Eskimos you might recognize they were there there Siberians on the asian side there they're classified in this study is that way you can see in light green here there's booze Beck's central a Central Asians and I'm moving on down there's these terms these these names for these groups you may not be recognizable but they're Andean by the by the Andes Mountains these are the people who are present in this particular study now I included these Siberian groups because it's been a long-standing dogma in the mainstream community that Native Americans came from a Central Asian group or Siberian group but that had happened 15,000 years ago and this this timescale is so entrenched it's used literally as a sanity check sanity check is is the phrase used in the thousand genomes paper they looked at when they said the Y chromosomes they created their whole tree and then they said okay let's look at the Native American branches if the timing of our tree lines up so that the Native American branches branch off from central asian 15,000 years ago you know we've done it right then we know we're on the right track that's how entrenched this time scale is in the mainstream community I want to revisit this using a different sort of analysis it's something we had discussed I think previously I'm gonna take it a step further explain it slowly so we can all follow so this is DNA from living people what can we learn about the history before Columbus using DNA from the survivors it's a little bit of a non intuitive way to approach this well the first thing that we can do is is reconstruct the family tree that's what this diagram is its branches just like we might reconstruct if we had written records and say this is my dad up here and my mom and this was their dad in their mom we've rotated about 90 degrees to that via time moves from left to right but this branching pattern is essentially a record of who comes from whom it's just using the number of differences between various peoples so these two men every branch is one man these two men have a short branch connecting them they have few DNA differences this branch is long let's go all the way down here and over and up here to connect this these two men over to this guy they have a much more distant common ancestor and so the length of these branches represent family tree they're essentially time scales so as you move from right to left you go backwards in time and if you go from this direction moving forwards in time it's a family tree so that's step one the second step into inferring something from these living people is to recognize that the branches of a family tree reflect population size it's it's self-evident if you think about it so if you were to look at my family tree get the Y chromosomes from my three boys and my white crumbs you can see three branches that come off for me there's three males at the next generation in my family tree of course it's a kindergarten point well that's true around the globe if you reconstruct the family tree from people around the globe the number of branches at various points in time is going to reflect the population size so back here you've got a whole bunch of branches coming off population must be growing then it's flat so they must not have been much population growth in this guy's family history then there's more growing up here there must be an increase in population size so that's that's the principle behind this and it's the principle we can apply globally and then specifically to this particular group of people now let me run through a couple of scenarios just so we can all follow how this works let's think of a theoretical family tree whether it starts with some male ancestor in the past and let's say we're watching this we have supernatural ability as we can we can time travel and watch this family tree grow through time he has two boys so then he's got two more branches on his family tree and then we're time traveling and we're watching these boys grew up get married and they each have two boys as well same thing happens the next generation as we travel through time they have two boys and on this goes over time if we were to take the DNA from those living people let's say those people are now living today we get their DNA differences we can reconstruct this family tree here we could go through time and count the number of branches to reconstruct that population history that we just in theory watched through time travel so if we're now in the present we've lots of supernatural abilities all we've got now is that the the two-four-six-eight 16min alive today and we can reconstruct their family tree from DNA it looks like this all we have to do is go walk back through each of this these branches count how many are there and we can reconstruct their population history like this so right now today generation five there are sixteen minute I so we can we can plot this down here is generation one two three four five and there's sixteen men that are alive so let's now move backwards to generation for the previous generation well there's two four six eight branches here we can plot that at generation four and then move back one more generation generation three two four branches we can plot that back one more generation generation two two branches generation one one branch and so just looking at the family tree and the number of branches at various stages of history because this is like a time scale like a family tree you can say how many people were alive at a various point in time so when we did our little time travel we watched the the branches of this family tree grow we can kind of go back in time in a sense the family tree allows us to travel back through time to see at various points in time how many branches were there how many people were alive and then when we draw it we can see that this family has had a history of population growth this branch is showing an upward curve this sort of family tree can also record periods of populations stasis when there's no growth so let's say there was again we're gonna travel back in time supernatural abilities and watch a family tree change with time that's a there's this male ancestor he has a son maybe a bunch of daughters but only one boy we're only interested in male ancestry then we keep traveling through time forward and this boy grows up marries has a bunch of daughters but only one boy and this family keeps having this pattern of lots of daughters but one boy one boy through time and eventually though we were traveling forward through time this this boy grows up marries and he has two boys maybe some of the daughters too and then his boys grew up and they have two boys as well and grow through zooms well if we've lost our supernatural abilities we're back in reality and we don't know this history and we look at these two four six these sixteen men alive today we get their DNA reconstructed family tree it looks like this we can then say aha I think I know what happened through history we can we can count the number of branches of each stage and draw a graph so there's sixteen guys alive today this is generation nine draw that on our graph move back a generation generation eight there's two fourths six eight eight branches on the family tree eight men would have been alive then move back another generation generation seven there's four draw that generation six there's two generation five there's one and it stays at one and we draw a flat line here so just drawing the number of branches from this family tree allows us to reconstruct what we would only known if we had supernatural abilities there was no growth for a while and then the curve goes up so I'm going through these steps because I want our viewers to see this is how the process works and we're going to take it one step further now to think about perhaps the most remarkable fact the most the saddest tract about Native American history the dramatic population decline after Columbus arrived so we discussed in the previous episode that they were ballpark 53 million people here there's there's big uncertainty but there's a lot of people here though many more than we used to think about and three centuries four centuries later that had undergone a massive collapse died off due to the disease and slave mandela's you're in in 1800 well how could you detect that with family trees reconstructed from the DNA of living people well let's think about a scenario again let's think about time travel let's go back in time pretend we have supernatural abilities again and we're gonna watch what happens but we're gonna include some sort of population die-off as part of our scenario so we go back in time there's a male ancestor he has two boys and we then move forward in time those two boys have two sons their boys grow up and have two sons we keep going forward in time this population growth happens but now at this point in history half of the boys die off maybe due to disease maybe they go off to war boom they're gone and now we keep watching history go forward those survivors each have one boy and now we're in the presence and now let's pretend we haven't been able to witness any of that history if we had this is what in white the population curve would have looked like if we were watching and supernatural recording through time we would have seen the population grow and then whole bunch of people died off so that there's only about eight people live than today and if but but our question is and our scenario today is all we have is living Native Americans and we can get DNA from these living Native Americans we can reconstruct their family tree what should we be seeing if there's been this a massive population die off well think back to a theoretical scenario I'm gonna highlight in blue the family tree that would result if we take DNA from living people we would not have any access to these people these branches of the men who died off they don't leave descendants we don't have their DNA all we can see with the DNA from these living people is what's highlighted in blue so if you then count the number of branches today we see eight so we put that in blue on our graph we're gonna compare it to that what we would have seen if we were supernatural abilities and watching in real time then we go back a generation that's generation six go back to generation five well all we see is the blue branches we have no access to those white ones that have the red X is because they died they don't leave descendants we don't see their DNA so we still have eight branches that's all we see and you go back in time here still eight branches and then you go back another generation you start to see a match between the white curve and the blue curve you might notice here that the the white curve which is partially obscured now by the blue goes up and then down we don't have DNA from these people just from the survivors so we have no access when we reconstruct DNA from from this DNA based family tree we don't see that peak all we see is this flat lining so if you've heard the term flat lining in a medical context heartbeats stop someone's dead it sort of has a double meaning here that's that's useful this smoking gun of a population collapse this flatlining you can see here if we were to graph out how the Native American population would have looked perhaps before Columbus it would have peaked and then gone down if we try to capture that history and if we say what should we be looking for if we have living people today we get their DNA and we try to recreate a family tree we should be looking for flatlining let me take this example one step further this was about a 50% population collapse I mentioned that there was probably more like an 80 to 90% population collapse from 53 million people down to less than 10 million so let's change this little scenario and wipe out 80% 90% of the people that are here and then the next generation they only only these two guys down here reproduce so if we were watching this in real time we'd see this population grow and then boom a whole bunch die off and there's only two left in the next generation well in blue once again is the family tree we could so to speak see if we took DNA from these two living survivors we'd only have access to these branches and this is how the graph then would look if we reconstructed their history so we start in the present we've got these two men who are alive how many branches are there two generations six there's two branches then you go back a generation we can't see any of these guys who were on the tree but died because they don't leave any descendants even this branch down here gone gone gone all we see is still two branches go back a generation even though this blue extends up here it only connects to dead people so all we see here is this here and this right here there's still two branches you go back to narration still two branches go back to generation yes we can see there's an extension up here but all this people this whole half of the tree gone dead we can't see them so all you see is one branch they go back generation one branch my point in going through these scenarios is that when there's a massive population die-off there is a long period of flatlining I said in generation 5 is when the people the actual event occurs a whole bunch of people die off but notice that the flatlining extends far back beyond generation five because you killed off so many people you lose large chunks of the family tree and there's it's just empty those people who should have been there gone they have enough descendants so it's this long flatlining that should be The Smoking Gun now I've basically just taught you all advance population genetics which is a complex field I don't expect everyone to follow this the first time you can go back and watch it again the bottom line and what I'm saying is if we're gonna take DNA from living people and we're looking for the real history of what's happened after Columbus we're looking for flatlining in the branches of the family tree and I'm gonna add one more little caveat here after there was a population die-off some of these populations recovered so in this column right here were based on the 2010 u.s. census of various tribal groups from the most populous to the down to those who have fewer and it goes down further I'm just taking the most populous groups Navajos if nearly 300,000 people in 2010 thus two hundred and twelve thousand and so forth for some of these groups we have historical data so we know that from history in 1868 there were only 9,000 Navajos so they've increased over 30 fold in just over a century the Sioux were at about 25,000 people in 1890 they've increased less dramatically the pueblos are also around 9,000 this time in 1861 they've increased less than the Navajos the point is after this population went down down down for several centuries some of these groups have now recovered so if we want to know what the native population family tree should look like it should be a long period of flatlining predating Columbus because the collapse was so big and then a recovery so adding those branches there and we're gonna add a little bit of recovery here at the end of our graph so long story short even if you didn't fall everything I said this is what we should be seeing in the family tree of Native Americans given what we know about what happens after Columbus arrived so this purple line here is 1492 down here you have 1200 AD 1300 1400 Columbus arrives 1500 1600 1700 down to the present we should see is a flatline a whole bunch of the branches in today's Native Americans are now gone because their relatives their ancestors died their relatives their ancestral objects and because it was such a massive die-off we're gonna see flatlining that precedes the arrival of Columbus so if we look at this particular section of the family tree and if you're looking carefully what's happening here and recognize this is this is a time line there's a lot of long branches not people it doesn't look like this staircase step there's a lot of flat lines no one else branching off hmm what does that mean it seems like this might be the smoking gun at their population decline well the mainstream community well this is the paper from which the primary data we're taking they tried to reconstruct population histories for various peoples and they say yes we can detect the decline they do not detect the recovery after the 1800s 1900s so the mainstream signs of a community can only detect part of this history and I'm arguing that the reason they miss the recovery is because they have the wrong time scale our family tree based on the y-chromosome clock is much shorter shallower than we think and if that's true we should be able to see the real history of a long period of flatlining because the decline and then recovering the 1800s well if you're looking at this tree there are a lot of empty branches here and then some some sort of a stair step pattern closer to the present well this is what we should be seeing given what we know about what happened after Columbus arrived I've got two lines here because there's always some sort of uncertainty this is biological data so some groups started recovering the 1800s some more like 1900 1890 again the Navajos are at 9,000 people that's close to 1900 well if you reconstruct the history and this is a complex process I've written a technical paper where you can read the details the blue lines represent what we can recover from that history not only is there a long period of flatlining but there's also a recovery and this is very close to what we see so this let me stop for a moment the fact that I can take the family tree of Native Americans and reconstruct their population history and I see a long period of flat lining that predates Columbus because there was this massive die-off and then I see recovery this is the only dataset this is the only timescale that captures what we know creationists and evolutionists after Columbus arrived this is a remarkable strong smoking gun of the veracity of the young Earth's timescale you can't see this evolution you only see this with young earth creation and that's a the only reason you can see this is because the earth creation timescale is true so you see the flatlining I said there's been recovering some of these groups you can see the recovery there as well now I've deliberately hidden pre 1200 because pre 1200 is where it gets really shocking I've taken this long period of our episode to describe why the post Colombian history is true because number one it has huge apologetic implications we're seeing real history that evolutionists cannot and we see it because we have the timescale right and because we have the timescale right have captured history after Columbus now what I'm about to show you is all the more believable it's explosive but it's believable I'm going to show you two graphs of how this this graph looks if we go to pre 1200 ad two graphs because I'm still not we still can't be very precise about where Noah is I'm gonna show you my best guess about where Noah is and I'm going to show you another possibility of where Noah is and somewhere in between is probably where the answer is so if Noah is where I think he is and that sets the boundaries for the whole tree and allows us to do be exact about our dates for thee for the other parts that tree the Native American part of the tree that branch where we saw all those gray branches as Native Americans come off and leave Central Asia that branching and moving over for Central Asia happens in the 600 to 800 ad this line begins right here they undergo rapid population growth around the eight hundreds or thousands AD and then of course flatlining sets in because so many of their descendents died off you have this flat line that occurs in the MS recovery what this means is today's Native Americans are descendants of people who came over in the recent so to speak ad era if Noah is somewhere else it bumps that back to maybe 250 AD somewhere between 250 and 500 again there's two lines because that's part of the statistical uncertainty here they came over around that time underwent massive population growth between 500 700 AD and then of course there's a collapse whether it's there or there it doesn't matter the big point is this looking at archaeology the earliest archaeological archaeology for civilization in the Americas is the Olmecs and that's data to pre 1,000 BC and I can say that even from a young Earth perspective it goes back to the earliest BC times yet what I'm saying based on genetics the people who are alive today came from groups who came over after that fact sometime in the ad era what that means is the people we see today replaced whoever was here first I don't know if they killed him off if they brought with disease see that some of the questions we're gonna raise in subsequent episodes this is and if you wanted to read more the technical details this is the paper that just came out be publishing the answers research journal you can find it on our website but let me stop here and summarize these explosive findings in short order Native Americans say sue Navajo Latin American tribes and nations these people are not the first Americans they are descendants of Central Asians so evolutionists don't dispute the Central Asian connection they dispute the time scale I'm saying the time scale is what changes all this they arrived in the in the in the ad era and because there's archaeological evidence that long precedes that they must have replaced whoever was here first and this raises all sorts of questions I'll just list a few here first of all why did people leave Central Asian what was going on in Central Asia in 250 AD or 600 AD that would push people across the Bering Strait and come over what happened after they got here apparently they wiped out whoever was here did they bring disease like Europeans brought today where there are some massive battles that happened and of course the biggest question is who were the first Americans who were these people who were here first who do they come from what were they doing this explosive discovery creates a dramatically new research paradigm a dramatically new paradigm for understanding the history of the Americas before Columbus and this is just the beginning this is the new history of the human race we've seen now the reason the evidence for the resetting of the Americas before Columbus and and this also is just the beginning of now rewriting what we understand happened when these people came and what happened before these people arrived oh you know dr. Jensen Sickler us out there think creationists are radical anyway because we stand for God's Word in Genesis and stand against evolutionary ideas so I guess you're going to be considered radical for your approach to history here okay they're gonna accuse us of all sorts of things and yeah it's what else is new thank you so these sorts of things long before we said such made such comments about the Americas but that's part of the reason I wanted to emphasize the post Colombian history because it's so radical and so likely politically incorrect why would anyone ever say this well because we're the only people who can capture the known history were the only people who can capture the collapse and the recovery so if you want to know what happened if you're Native American you want to know what happened here we're the only people who can tell you and and can reflect what we already know happened post Columbus and so that's why I think it's this model that should be trusted for what happened before Columbus that's that's commit to me the key scientific link so it's not just we're destroying what everyone held dearly no we're the only people who can tell you and show you the echo what we know happened after Columbus and so therefore we can go back and revisit what happened before Columbus sooner reminds me when secularists evolutionists reject God's Word look at the fossil record and they say there's no evidence of a flood because this took millions of years but of course if there's no millions of years you realize that had to happen in a very short time it all makes sense with the catastrophic flood and you're looking at this in regard to human population and of course the Bible's timeline would tell us it's much shorter than what we've been told by the secular world because the Bible's time rate is right and it explains what you're seeing in genetics so what can we look forward to in episodes 13 and 14 coming up we're going to try to answer some of these questions that have have just been raised by these findings it's an episode thirteen we want to look at a neglected history of the pre-columbian era America's there's been evidence lying right in front of us that we've been missing that begins to give us some clues as to what these people were doing and in fact it's consistent with the genetics and anticipated the genetics that I that I just showed that's episode 13 episode 14 we want to look at the question of what happened to the Maya so there's that there's a ancient pre-columbian civilization fairly glorious one in terms of what they were able to produce not necessarily glorious and their cultural practices but even wikipedia says that the collapse of the Mayas the disappearance of this Mayan civilization is one of the great unsolved mysteries of archaeology and the genetic discoveries we've just looked at might offer some clues and and help us retell and solve this long-standing unsolved mystery there's as many solutions to this mystery in the mainstream community as the mainstream community has for what happened to the dinosaurs just a just to give our viewers some sense of how much of a nagging problem this has been well that with genetics in hand we now have some new tools but what you say I think we've got some answers and they're really remarkable well that's something to look forward to for the future episodes and if people want to see all the past episodes now answers dot TV it's our own streaming service Answers in Genesis now has its own streaming service just like net big stars and Disney plus and so on but we would encourage you to subscribe to answers dot TV just over three dollars a month for a year's subscription that's very very inexpensive and all these sessions will be archived on there but you can also go to YouTube the Answers in Genesis channel and they'll be there as well well with that we look forward to the next two episodes next week so thank you dr. Jensen and we'll have you back here when we go through that new information that you have it is going to give some very interesting answers to all of this thank you
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