[whispered]
On<i> The Haunting Of...</i> (Johnny)
This place is
the single scariest thing that I've ever experienced. I can't imagine
walking over the doorstep. [eerie music] ♪ ♪ (Johnny)
I've traveled
all over the world, and this place
is the single scariest thing that I've ever experienced. [screaming] (Kim)
This place is not safe. I'm already feeling,
like, violence. There's something freakish
going on inside there. (Johnny)
Oh, my God,
I can't believe you know things. Well, what did you think,
I was a fake? (Johnny)
I just have this feeling
that the next turn we make, there's gonna be
something horrible. (Kim)
Heard women, like, screaming. [screaming] (Kim)
I just saw something over there. I just saw something
move right over there. I want to get out of here. I have to say strong;
otherwise we're both going down. [eerie music] ♪ ♪ (Kim)
My name is Kim Russo, and I am a psychic medium. When I was nine, I was visited
by the first of many dead people who wanted to communicate
with the living through me. Realizing that I couldn't ignore
my abilities, I chose to embrace them. Many people are haunted
by traumatic paranormal events buried in their past. Some of these people have faces
you might recognize. You've heard about their
paranormal experiences. Now you're about to witness
the moment they take me back to the place of the haunting in the hopes
of uncovering the truth. This is... [ethereal music] ♪ ♪ (Kim)
I'm headed out to meet
with Johnny Weir. He is a famous
Olympic ice skater. He grew up here
in rural Pennsylvania, and the location we're headed to is not far
from where he grew up. It's supposedly
this big building-- some sort of a warehouse. Warehouses are notorious
for housing ghosts. They must be haunting him,
for real-- like, down to his core-- for him to come all the way back to his hometown. There's something terrifying that we have to get
to the bottom of. (Johnny)
I'm going back
to a childhood stomping ground that terrified me to the point that it's remained with me
my whole life. ♪ ♪ I've traveled
all over the world. I've been in weird
underground tunnels in Slovakia, I've been in old hostels
in China, and nowhere has stuck out more
than this old brick building. ♪ ♪ I can't imagine
walking over the doorstep. It's terrifying. It's a bogeyman that has been
with me for my whole life. This place is the single
scariest thing that I've ever experienced. [tense music] ♪ ♪ I grew up in rural
southeast Pennsylvania, and it's a very desolate
sort of place. The first people that
really settled my area were the Amish--
Pennsylvania Dutch. And a lot of their
European mysticism I think came with them. And driving through my area, people have stars on the outside
of their houses, and those are supposed
to ward off evil. It's creepy,
all the things that can hide in the hills of Pennsylvania. When I was little,
there was a property that was owned
by close family friends. It was this ominous brick,
scary building sitting almost
on the train tracks. It just had this very
Salem witch sort of... very sinister feeling. There were so many occasions when I had to be
close to the building or in the vicinity, and I always felt so... off when I was there. I remember really
distinctly feeling-- not just uneasy
in a kind of, like, "I'm on a boat for the first
time" sort of way, but uneasy in the pit
of your stomach where you start
to feel nauseous, your head starts to feel swimmy. [eerie music] ♪ ♪ I felt that there was
a ghost or a spirit or somebody around that was gonna kidnap me
and kill me or do something to me. ♪ ♪ We'd roll up in our family car, and I would come up with excuses
not to get out of the car. (woman)
All right. Let's go. My stomach hurts.
No. (Johnny voice-over)
I would feign any illness-- you know,
life-threatening or not-- to keep me sitting in the car, because the car was safe. My stomach hurts. (Johnny voice-over)
If I was forced
to get out of the car, it was like
a short-term paralysis. Like, I didn't want to walk too close to that end
of the property where the brick house sat. I didn't want to go
anywhere near there. So my young parents also had
young parent friends, and I was forced and obligated
to hang out with their kids and play with their kids. But all the kids kind of
knew that I was weird. They liked to pick on me a bit, and they knew that I was afraid
of this old brick building. ♪ ♪ They knew that I
was terrified of it. You scared? (boy)
Come on, you loser! (Johnny voice-over)
For most kids,
like, a spooky old place is awesome to hang out in, but I never could
cross the doorjamb. And one day... [tense music] ♪ ♪ [all speaking indistinctly] (boy)
You gonncry to your mommy? Stop! They thought it would be
fun to mischievous, and sort of try and drag me in. [all shouting] Get his legs! (Johnny voice-over)
It was two or three kids-- you know, one grabs an arm
and the other two grab legs. Are you gonna cry
to your mommy? No! (Johnny voice-over)
I screamed. I kicked. I spat. I clawed. I did everything that I could
to not go in that building. ♪ ♪ I felt that there
was something around. There's something wrong. Stop! Stop! No! ♪ ♪ (Johnny voice-over)
At some point,
I wrestled myself away, and I was never in the building. ♪ ♪ As most kids do, I went with my concerns
and my fears to my mom. There's a ghost
inside there, Mom. (Johnny voice-over)
But my mother just
kind of waved it off and was like,
"Well, ghosts don't exist." You shouldn't be afraid.
It's just a brick building. But you feel things. Kids are very open
to feeling things and knowing things, and these things
were real to me. ♪ ♪ And to this day, I have
never been in that building. I don't know if it's evil. I don't know
if it's somebody there. Just thinking about the building
gives me goose bumps. This building and this place
and this feeling has stayed with me
for my entire life. (Johnny)
I suppose the reason
I feel strong enough to try and figure out
what all of this is now is that I turned 30 and I'm a man. I'm no longer a boy. And now I am excited to get some answers as to whatever's
on the other side of that door. I haven't actually
stood on the property or on the ground since I was probably
12 years old, and I'm 30 now, so you do the math. It's pretty scary. I'm hoping to find out why this
place has stuck in my memory and has been a bogeyman
for my whole life. (Kim)
I'm feeling very unsettled. There's a sneaky energy. Like, I feel like
I'm picking up on a man. A man's energy. This man-- he can't be trusted at all. I feel a dark side to this man. I definitely don't feel safe
at all. Today may be one of those days that, if I'm not careful, I can take one of these
ghosts home with me. That's a medium's nightmare. I feel like there's
an energy of secrecy surrounding this building. [tense music] It's just--it's creepy. It's really creepy. ♪ ♪ Well, today's
gonna be a long day. I can feel it. Cold and long day. Oh, boy. Oh, my goodness. I can totally see why he's
frightened by this place. Something definitely
happened in there. [screaming] I hear women screaming. "Help, help, help!" But it sounds
like a muffled scream. Like, uh... ♪ ♪ Almost like I feel
like they might be gagged. ♪ ♪ I'm already feeling,
like, violence. There's something freakish
going on inside there. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ I hear women screaming. Wailing. But it sounds
like a muffled scream. Like, uh... Almost like I feel
like they might be gagged. [woman gasps] This is not cool at all,
what I'm feeling. This place is not safe. I feel like I see a postman. What does that
have to do with this place? Okay, Johnny. I don't even want to wait
in front of this building. That's how uncomfortable I feel. [tense music] ♪ ♪ (Johnny)
My breath is short right now. It's dark out,
which is quite different than I've ever
experienced this place before. It's cold. And I... I really don't know
how this is going to go. ♪ ♪ Oh, it's such
a scary building. [exhales sharply] This is terrifying. (Johnny)
Okay. Hey, Johnny. - Hi.
- How are you? I'm fine, aside from this big, brick, scary thing next to us. Are you nervous? - Nice to meet you.
- Very good to meet you too. You haven't been
back here in how long? It's been--I was 12,
probably, the last time I was even
this close to this building. I've never been
inside this building. Okay. I never allowed myself to, and I never felt that I was
able to cross the threshold. And to this day, I still feel like I'm not
really supposed to go in there. [eerie music] In this area, I was constantly
afraid of being kidnapped. Do you think you were always
afraid of getting kidnapped? That's a really
interesting statement. Always. I was always afraid
of getting snatched. - Even as an adult--
- Really? That I'm gonna be taken, or that I'm gonna be taken
away from the life that I know. And that's something
that always scared me. That was my biggest fear
when I was young, and I don't know what
about this building and how that would
correlate with that, but just--this building would
never allow me to cross it. When we're born, we-- what people don't realize is we actually
come in with fears. And I believe in past lives. I'm not saying that's
what your case was yet. I don't know. But what I'm saying is, the soul has the memory
of every life it's ever lived, and the fresher
you are as a child, the more current
that memory might be. So who knows? I don't want to scare you;
I just want to let you know that some stuff
happened in there. Your vibes about
this building are-- whether you're a kid
or an adult, there's something freakish
going on inside there. (Kim)
I don't know what's
gonna happen here today. We're gonna take it
step by step. Like, really, I will share
everything with you that I feel. I'll tell you really quick, I picked up on
a post office man, a postman? And there is some violent energy
that I'm already feeling, like violence. I want to really help you today. I might read you
with personal messages. Is that okay? Do I have
your permission to do that? If any loved ones come through? - Sure.
- Okay. And I definitely
will be their voice, and I hope they come early
so they can help protect us. Agreed. But... I'm thinking we should
venture on this way. I feel drawn to these steps. - Okay.
- Okay? Will you hold my paw? All righty. [tense music] You want to do it? ♪ ♪ I'll let you do it.
I'll go after you. All right. ♪ ♪ Look. I want you to look and tell me
how you feel. ♪ ♪ (Johnny)
I feel so wobbly. Is that just
my own nervous energy? Why do I feel like this, though? It's the energy. I feel the energy too. Um... I have to tell you
what else I feel. I'll tell you what I'm seeing
the minute I walked in. I see, like, boxed crates, and I don't know
if they're here, but I feel like they stored
crates in this building. I don't know what
they were used for. Wooden crates--
I mean, this has always been sort of for farm products. I mean, this was the place
to come in our area for anything you
needed for farming. Okay. I have to tell you,
though, John, I feel like I'm back
in a different century. I'm not quite visualizing
something that happened when you were a child. I want to go even
back more than that. Let's go. Like, visually, psychically, I'm connecting with
another time period. - I'm talking the Civil War.
- Civil War. I saw a man-- I still see a man-- The post office man
from outside? Yes. "Thomas."
I hear a "Thomas." "Thomas." Tom the Postman. (Kim)
This man has two faces. Like, he--
he makes it, like-- like he's
nice to you at first... And then he has
a shady, violent side. ♪ ♪ I'm gonna actually use a word
I don't use very lightly. [screaming] Torture. ♪ ♪ [eerie music] (Kim)
"Thomas."
I hear a "Thomas." "Thomas." I feel like that name
links very directly to this post office guy. Tom the Postman. (Kim)
This man has two faces. Like, he--
he makes it, like-- like he's nice to you
at first, and then-- and then he has
a shady, violent side. It's all a beautiful
outside appearance until he lures you in, and then you see
all the ugliness and all the junk
on the inside. So that may be something that's
connected to your experience. It could be that
it's a parallel, and we'll get to it as we go. I don't know. ♪ ♪ I have a grandpa here for you.
A grandpa. He said he's your grandpa. Thank you, Grandpa.
You're just in time. - So we don't have to--
- Deal with Thomas. Feel a little more comforting-- comforted. I believe he's
on your mom's side. You look like you
have his smile. Has anybody ever
told you that? And his fingernails
and everything. Well, I haven't seen
your fingernails-- Well, they're painted, but... But the smile
is this man's smile. And he's so warm, and he sees you-- he watches over you. Um... He said you're
just like your mom. Now, I have to tell you, my own spirit guides will show me things
in my own life, which is my own
frame of reference, and my mom
is a heavy smoker. And my children have nicknamed
her "Meemaw Puff-Puff." And I'm supposed to say that
to you for some reason. Oh, my God. I have no idea why. They're showing me Meemaw--
like, my mom-- "Meemaw Puff-Puff,"
they call her. It's because
she smokes, though. My mother smokes heavily, and my grandfather's
nickname was Puff. Oh, my God. I'm not--
you're ridiculous right now. - Are you kidding me?
- Knowing this stuff. I kind of thing your father's
father is also in spirit. Is he John like you? - Yeah.
- Okay. So you're having extra
protection here, my dear. - [laughs]
- That's awesome. Thank you, guys,
wherever you are. - Isn't that awesome?
- That's really awesome. [distorted speech] You know what he just said? He said, "I worked
with energy too." What does that mean? He worked for
a nuclear power plant. - [gasps]
- So, nuclear energy. So he understands energy. And there's energy here today. Like, beyond. Oh, my God, I can't
believe you know things. Well, what did you
think, I was a fake? No, but I just didn't know that it was, like, that... - Intense?
- Like he's right there. Well, it certainly is. He's really, really
happy to see you. Really happy. I do feel he's been
to some of your events, like, I feel like
he's been there. Like, in person,
though, not in death. - Yes.
- Okay. 'Cause he showed me one
that you were competing and you might not have won. - Does that make sense?
- Yeah. Because he kept showing me
about the disappointment, and he just--he didn't know how
to make things better for you. He was at the Olympics, and I got--I did
very, very well, and I got sixth place. But you don't go to the Olympics
to get sixth place; you go to win a medal, and I
did everything to win a medal and my whole family
was devastated. He wasn't. Well, they were proud of me
but devastated-- He was devastated
for how you felt, and it was another
disappointment, and he said it's similar
to that feeling of how you feel now. I think he means
a separation, divorce. Yeah. It's-- that's exactly
what my situation is. I'm mid-divorce. That's wild. I'm going through
a personal situation with a man with two faces. Maybe it connects to the man that you're going
through this with now, but he said the good news is, you're surrounded by many,
many dear friends, so you really have
a beautiful support system, and your spirit
can't be crushed. That's what he just said. Your spirit can
never be crushed. Never.
Even as a child. It seems like you
just keep pushing on. I do. Is that a theme in your family? I think a lot of it
started with my mother. Trudging through everything that
needs to be trudged through and doing it with
grace and dignity and... Wow.
[laughs] - Cool, right?
- Thank you. It almost offsets
the violence I feel here. [screaming] And the negative,
and actually, I'm gonna actually use a word I don't use very lightly. Torture. There was torture. Right under my feet,
something happened. [screaming] I don't know if
there's a basement... I don't know if
there's a basement. Because it's pushing me down. [distorted screaming] I want to do this whole floor, if there's another
space we could go to, and we'll work our way down. How's that? That's fine,
because this is-- I'm shaky,
and I still feel off. Well, I know what you mean.
I've been there. I don't actually
feel it right now, because I feel like my guides
need me to stay grounded, so that, you know-- You're gonna protect me
when we go down there? I have to stay strong; otherwise we're both going down. - Okay?
- Okay. Why don't we
go that way? [eerie music] ♪ ♪ You've overcome a lot,
it seems, in your life. Oh, yeah. This is the only thing that... has stayed with me, no matter
where I go in the world-- the fear of stepping
inside this building-- and still,
being in here is so-- so surreal, and something that
I never thought that I would do. ♪ ♪ Something about energy in here, it feels like--
it feels like-- I need to push out the walls. There's not enough
space in here. ♪ ♪ I feel like I'm picking up
on some women energy now. I heard women, like, screaming, like, "Help, help, help!" [woman moaning] What the heck is this place? ♪ ♪ (Kim)
I just saw something over there. I just saw something
move right over there. I want to get out of here. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ (Kim)
Something about energy in here, it feels like--
it feels like-- I need to push out the walls. There's not enough
space in here. I feel like I'm picking up
on some women energy now. I heard women, like, screaming, like, "Help, help, help!" No!
No, no! What the heck is this place? I don't understand this. ♪ ♪ But I see nothing
but black women. I would say they
were women slaves. (Johnny)
Do you think... maybe there was
that situation where-- we're very close to
the Mason-Dixon Line here. It separated North
from South in the Civil War. Yes. Slaves would obviously
have to come north. Yes, to get-- So, the Underground Railroad-- I don't know if this building
would have been part of it, because, as I understand, this building was
after the Civil War. I believe that, but I see
another structure here that burned down. [eerie music] ♪ ♪ Wow, so if something
burned down, and the--
all of that-- when something burns down, all of that negative
energy stays. The energy is still-- it doesn't go away because-- especially if there's a trapped
or a, um, earthbound spirit. A fire doesn't help that. [sighs]
Hold on. It's a lot of evil energy here. There's, um-- There's something about
something being transported back and forth
and back and forth. Like, I feel like
I'm inside of a cage, but I don't feel
they're animals. I feel they're people. ♪ ♪ I see that man... ♪ ♪ The postman. Is he still here? This is all connected. How's it going? Good. There's that two--
two faces again. Right. (Kim)
Like, I see him
delivering mail to people and I see him going like this, like he's--he wants
to know a lot of things about the town and about people. But I feel like it's
that inside information that he uses to make his money. See, this is the thing
about this man. He found a way to make a buck that no one else thought of. That's what I feel. And these women are
just, like, things that were--
I want to say sold. I keep feeling sold. I keep seeing
money exchanged. Well, then we've
got slavery. This looks like-- this looks like
more than slavery. This looks like... Sara, run! This does look like kidnapping. [screaming] (Kim)
I keep seeing
black women screaming, and they're running
to get away. How many women
do you see? Um... [crying] I--I don't-- Right now, I see two. Like--but I hear
the cries of many. So I feel as if-- It was a consistent business. It might have been
an ongoing--right. Exactly. [distorted speech] Does the name Sara
mean anything to you? Maybe her name was Sara. I just saw something over there. I just saw something
move right over there. ♪ ♪ Do you-- I just saw a shadow. I want to get out of here. ♪ ♪ (Kim)
They don't want us in there. I don't know what that was. (Johnny)
I just have this feeling that there's gonna
be something horrible. The story of your soul was horrific at one point. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ Maybe her name was Sara. I just saw something over there. I just saw something
move right over there. ♪ ♪ Do you-- I just saw a shadow... just go-- I want to get out of here. I want to get out of here. Oh, my God. Holy crap. They don't want us in there. I don't know what that was. It was dark. - A dark shadow.
- A very dark shadow. (Johnny)
So we don't go back in. - I'm not going back in there.
- I'm not going back in there. Guys, I'm sorry. I want to--
I want to go down, though. I know that's crazy, but I have to finish
this investigation. I want to go to the basement, because I was feeling
something very significant under my feet earlier. Where are these steps?
Over here. [tense music] ♪ ♪ Come on, John. There's a lot of cobwebs
down here I'm seeing. I'm sorry I scared you. No, it's okay. Jeez, where are we? - Oh, my God.
- Oh, there's a well. (Kim)
Holy mackerel, Andy. Do you think that this
is the original foundation? Look at this stone. (Johnny)
It's very, very old. This is old. John, look at this well. A real well. (Johnny)
That doesn't make me feel nice. Well, I was expecting
to feel a dead body in there, and I just--I didn't. So that's good. Yes. ♪ ♪ How do you feel? Because I can see
the look on your face. I feel--
I felt wobbly all night, and I just have this
very horrible feeling that the next turn we make, there's gonna be
something horrible. And I can't see things,
and I don't have the gift, but I've never been able to
get this place out of my mind, because it was so scary. Do you believe that
you've lived before? I do. You've lived a lot
of lives, I see. I absolutely feel you have
a very, very old soul. Your--you've lived
many lives as a woman. That makes perfect sense. I love being the mother figure. I love protecting,
I love preparing dinner, I love being glamorous. I love to be beautiful. 'Cause you were
glamorous many times. [screaming] But I'm gonna tell
you something. Your story wasn't always
so sweet and nice. Your soul--
the story of your soul-- was horrific at one point. [screaming] Shh! I'm gonna tell you
what I feel very strongly now that I'm tapped in to your soul. You were black--
you were a black woman-- and you were captured, and you were captured
by this man. ♪ ♪ You were one of them. You were Sara. ♪ ♪ And in that lifetime, you decided you were gonna make
the best of a bad situation. And you know you do that. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ (Kim)
I'm gonna tell you
what I feel very strongly now that I'm tapped in to your soul. [woman crying] You were black--
you were a black woman-- and you were captured, and you were captured
by this man. You were one of them. You were Sara. [moaning] You absolutely were kidnapped. And you were sold into slavery. He would sell
even the free women. Here? I'm gonna say he would
sell them down south. And in that lifetime, you decided you were gonna make
the best of a bad situation. You used all of your charm and all of your personality the way you do today to get people to like you. And you know you do that. This family fell
in love with you. They couldn't help
but fall in love with you. Once they fell in love with you, they gave you your freedom. You chose not to leave them alone, old, and sick. And you lived
the rest of your days with them loving you, and you taking care of them. ♪ ♪ I keep seeing you putting
cold rags on the woman's head when she was dying in bed. This was
the slave master's wife. You know how to win people over in this lifetime. Those skills started
in that lifetime. This Sara-- I mean, it fits. Kidnapping, being taken away
from a life that I know-- it was my biggest fear. And I love nothing more than taking care
of people that I love. They never knew love.
You showed them how to love. You make people feel good. You make people laugh. You make people connect to you. This journey of who you are
and having people like you and just being you-- you started it
back in that lifetime. I think that this is
a very touching story of your life,
of your soul. I think it really does seem to
answer a lot of your questions. Do you want to go sit
and chat about today? Yes, please. All right. (Kim)
Oh, boy. Let's have a seat. So what do you think about
what was uncovered today-- everything that I saw
and tuned into? The thing that I
took out of today was my belief that there are things
from my past that helped make me
into who I am now. That there was more
about my makeup that came from long
before I was a child. That's true.
That's very, very true. I mean, if-- to live Sara's life and to have it that-- that horrific moment-- no wonder I couldn't
come to this place. And I feel like you
took that story and you've brought it
with you to each lifetime. You've really used everything
of who you are as a person, and you make it work
to your advantage. And I feel in doing that,
you're a teacher. You're a teacher
to so many people. I think you
looked back today so that you can move forward. 'Cause this is liberating. This is freedom. This is just another fear that
you stared right in the face and said, "Okay, next." Yeah. And based on what you told me, it's, like--it's a big
turning point in your life. You're kind of--you're in
a lot of turmoil right now. - Horrible turmoil.
- From what it seems. But this definitely
gives me the power of knowing that
I've got somebody with me. Mm-hmm. Plus the people around me. My grandfathers. I know. I mean, that-- that in itself means so much waking up tomorrow
and feeling strong and powerful
and empowered. It gives you a sense that you
really are on the right track. And in this lifetime,
you're winning them over. And it's still
early in the game. Yes. And who knows what other
adventur you'll be going on? I hope they're good. If Sara's life turned out
the way it did, I think you'll never go
to that dark place again. Right. - Okay, well, good.
- Thank you. - Thank you.
- Thank you. Muah! You are the best. No, you are. It was so nice to meet you and have this journey with you. And you too, and thank you
for protecting me. You got it. All right, let's go. - You ready?
- Yeah. (Kim)
Let's go fight the cold. (Johnny voice-over)
The things she told me
about my family, about my grandfather, nobody could have known aside from our immediate family. I'm terribly honored that I had the opportunity to... walk through this part
of my life with her. I've been on edge all day
about coming here, because it--this building
has held such a place of terror for me
since I was very young. But now, having walked
through the entire building and learned
what I learned today, it doesn't scare me anymore. I'm liberated from this place. (Kim voice-over)
Looking back, Johnny was terrified
to enter an old warehouse that haunted him
during his childhood. Today, by facing his fears
and exploring the secrets that lay within its walls, we discovered that his
feelings of dread are directly related to a
violent past life experience. By understanding his connection
to the building's history, Johnny is able to move
forward in this lifetime without the cloud of mystery
that has always surrounded it. It's an interesting
lesson for all of us who have unexplained feelings
about certain people, places, or things
we encounter. The fact is, the truth may very well lie
in the journey of our souls.
