The Evolution of 21 Savage | expediTIously Podcast

don't get old by yourself you know what i mean find somebody who you can have a life with right you dig what i'm saying don't don't do like this he was telling me like this right here this ain't this ain't it this ain't it you know i had all my fun i did everything it was to do but looking back i just shoulda you know i should have found somebody who i could really settle down with and have a life [Music] yo welcome to expedition i'm your host tip t.i harris man expeditionary is a place where we have discussions that push the culture forward we have those discussions with people who are relevant to that discussion my guest here today man uh really don't need no introduction if you are under the age of 30 25 35 35 you already know man you know i'm saying savage uh 21 savage man has been uh uh uh just a force to be record with on the game in the game man of hip-hop trap music uh he's a leader of the generation uh and and you know his lat his latest project savage mode two yeah has uh debuted number one you dig what i'm saying him and metro boomin have created a sound that you know can't be duplicated you know he has a very effortless uh uh uh effortless flow that he could kind of you know really do him in a way nobody else could do but him mommy kind of reminds me of easy e a little bit bro yeah like yeah for sure he kind of put me in the mind of easy e you know what i'm saying or too short you know what i'm saying uh but you really got you know some some deep perspectives and [ __ ] like where does your logic come from what did you learn that [ __ ] i probably think just like my mama like that yeah so i feel like from a young age like just being around her and seeing her lead by example and just the things that she believe in or what she stand on like i feel like that molding me to be like more like i think deeper about a lot of stuff right i ain't really you can't really put the world over my eyes real right uh and you know i think that is a level of of wisdom and maturity that you don't necessarily see a lot uh it's not expected right coming from somebody your age uh and we've known each other a long time right real long time yeah like you know i think when you dropped your first video your very first video i started reaching that to you yeah and uh i asked you for a million dollars [Laughter] and you told me now cause what i'm gonna have to take in return ain't even gonna be worth it and i stayed independent i probably would have signed a deal if it weren't for you i probably wouldn't even have like what i got right now for real but i mean that made me feel good you know i had the same conversation with the the same couple yeah for sure you know what i'm saying like man bro if i give you a million dollars i'm going to take 10 times as much because you know that just the way the game go if you want to maintain ownership of your art and equity in your art you got to go through those tough times in the beginning can't accept no upfront money and cushion your bloke oh god you got the god damn go ahead and get it out the mud the same way you would anything else if you want to stand on you know on your principles as a boss yeah and you did that and i always told you hey man don't worry the money gonna come yeah you did for sure and it looked like it looked like it made she came [Laughter] she's still coming the show hey man um another thing man you know another way we know each other we also uh we we we play poker yeah we play poker we sit down and play poker man you know i'm saying extended hours in the night in the day up all night all times of the night man just playing poker trading money back and forth you know what i'm saying sometimes he wins sometime i win sometimes or rugs win we just really just is changing money back and forth yeah what got you into the love of the game of poker i probably really don't say like boredom for real yeah what did you learn this year when i started playing with you when you learned yeah that was probably like my fourth time playing what when you won that big ass hand yeah that was probably like my fourth or fifth time playing for real man um um uh he talking about so so if anybody knows how to play pokemon so uh so so though i mean not the savage header savage had a boat yeah full house he had a full house man and if you don't know how to play poker i don't have time to you know catch up on it but those of you who know how to play poker you know how rare this is so savage had a full house and he would bend hard on the full house i [ __ ] around and got quads so he been hard as a [ __ ] going to full health and like he like man i know you can't beat me i'm like well i'm betting and you know i checked once though and then you bet yeah i knew you had cars then you can't get stuck out there with a boat man in that car then i had the biggest boat out there aces over yeah aces overfolds no i had aces over queens so what did i have quad queen i had quark i thought it was so i just had quads two times then because i remember them quad foes too you had quad kings i mean quad queens because the flock came it gave me trip aces and they gave you trip queen okay gotcha the queen's paired up that gave you cards and they gave me the nut boat aces over queen yeah yeah yeah and uh that that was man his service said man i ain't even playing this [ __ ] no more man no we gotta walk away from the table hey i'm a sort of loser i don't know why but i'm gonna start losing man um you were also uh uh you were able to get morgan freeman to narrate your project for savage mode too yeah what would the process of that how did that come about man i ain't i i don't want to say that was the easiest thing about the album like we got big rude to write it and um he sent the script to morgan like metro who knew morgan freeman though nobody we just like reached out to his management okay gotcha so boom like metro already had it ideal like we need somebody to just say some words throughout the album and at first we was gonna use big rule but then i think either ah metro one of us is like man let's see if we can get morgan freeman though man he did that [ __ ] he did every line that we sent like with no pressure no nothing man that's why and he charged the the fee that he charged was so small like you wouldn't even believe it like for real like then i got a morgan freeman story man i got a morgan freeman story you want to hear yeah yeah okay let's go back to i think it might have been 2010 2012 something like that anyway uh i'm drinking lean at the time you know what i'm saying i'm drinking lean and kiwi i mean i'm having an act too pintsod yeah i mean uh you should pull up in a pizza in the peach uh sunkist sun kiss peach peach fountain that was my thing acting in the peach soda that was my thing yeah uh so i had a movie a movie called las vegas uh l-a-s-t vegas the movie had morgan freeman uh robert de niro um michael douglas uh it was just a big kevin kline i believe it was a a bunch of og's in in the world of acting and film yeah i'd already got the role they had already i didn't have to audition for it and then they wanted me i said i bet so now i'm locked in contract sign everything my manager hit me and say hey man they doing a table read where everybody's going to be there the entire cast is going to be there and i was in l.a and i'm like hey man i don't know man i don't know if i'm gonna be able to make it right and well they were showing it in vegas they were shooting it in vegas but there was this was maybe like a week before they started shooting they were doing a table read one time for all the cast members to count them where everybody sit down and read that yeah yeah all right cool so i said i don't know if i'm gonna make it he said well you know you don't want to be the only one that ain't there and you got all of these prestigious actors and you know you don't want to look you know saying like you know like you're disrespecting the crap it's all right man i think about it i got a lot of [ __ ] to do the only way i can make it is if i drive down from l.a uh so i got me a bus and i was i think i was with wayne recording the record we were doing some in the studio all times of the night the table read was at i think like 9 30 10 in the morning so i was in the studio with wayne probably until maybe two or three got on the bus took the four hour drive down there drinking the whole way sipping the whole way so by the time i got there it was earlier it was too early for the table it was like 7 30. it was like 7 30 and i had like two hours so i walk around the hotel room and all that i mean walking around the hotel and just killing time come time to sit down for the table read man that drink got on my ass so bad man i'm dozing off at the table falling asleep why are everybody right right everybody right there matter of fact you remember turtle from uh uh entourage uh his name jared ferraro uh well it's a show from hbo called remember the show i will it was a very a popular character named turtle his real name is jared ferrara i think he was also a uh he played a lawyer in powell too uh young white dude anyway so jared ferrari he's sitting next to me and he keep like boring me every time in my turn so i wake up and i'm like where am i oh okay uh and so after i had done did this maybe about three four time morgan freeman from across the table say son are you with us son are you okay son get up what's what is your problem what is man listen bro the man chastised me like a little boy right there at the table and then on top of that man when i left when the tavery was over i left you know saying went back you know came back to the crib and uh i got a call he said my my man just hey man morgan freeman said he won't work with you [ __ ] said he said he he got you you got to you know he can't you they don't want you they know that you already signed your contract they know that they got to pay you your full rate but he just don't more than freedom won't work with you damn y'all never talked after that no he or not we never talked after that man you know i'm saying i get it but my thing was de niro one tripping you did what i'm saying michael douglas one tripping none of these other you know what i'm saying these other actors there's you know on the same level as you one trippy and for you to be the one to me but you know i still respect i still respect the craft uh and i'm glad i didn't didn't it's probably because they're a lot older than them though that's real but i but the movie tanked it did yeah the movie tanked i would have definitely got them a better first week at the box office so you know what i'm saying i think all's well that ends well dodged the bullet yeah you know i mean so thank you morgan freeman for helping me avoid you know uh a bad week at the box office yeah i mean but yeah what he did on your [ __ ] is is exceptionally dope though yeah it was definitely dope to hear him kind of appeal to your generation of the culture yeah that was fast yeah bridging the gap yeah man uh but have you met you met you met him no i ain't never man he never met her but you know i had a covert [ __ ] going on so it's like right it ain't really a good time to be me nobody especially not nobody like he older like right they're more vulnerable than anybody sure sorry what do you think is the kind of like the greatest lesson you learned in your young life like what the the thing that shaped you and kind of changed you like made you take [ __ ] seriously like early early early i probably just say like don't smoke weed in the car i think that that lesson like applied to my life like what did you learn how did you learn that list like when i was young i used to [ __ ] around so one time i'm just in the car we in the hot box smoking like but we in apartments though got you so you weren't moving you just paul we're just sitting in the car all right police pull up i'm a juvenile police pull up we smell weed we smell weed now we got the right to search the car it's weed in the car though right they search the car they find some weed they find a scale boom i'm a juvenile so he wrote me a ticket but he still treated i was on probation i was on juvenile probation so he bring me to the house [Music] he like [ __ ] by you having a scare i could really could charge you with um it ain't trafficking what's the other word that you possess with the team yeah possession with intent yeah he was like that could god damn you had to go back to a um juvenile yeah a juvenile like a um yda okay why dc why dc he don't do that he write the ticket you tell my mama like i just feel like from that day four it just made me think like damn whatever you doing in life bro a lot of a lot of people just be like so really stupid when they do this [ __ ] there's like it's really a way that you could do [ __ ] yeah exactly yeah so i feel like that was like a young thing that i went through that just shaped me like bro whatever you doing think like a 50 steps ahead because it's really certain things you could do to keep yourself out of certain [ __ ] that's real then i probably will say like me getting shot made me value life more yeah because i feel like a lot of young like young black men like when we coming up like we really don't understand the value of our life because we ain't got [ __ ] so it's like you you you'll be quick to do some [ __ ] cause you feel like [ __ ] you ain't got nothing to lose type [ __ ] but i feel like i had my child and i i got shot saying yeah i had my first child damn so i feel like that was one of them experiences like that just was like ready [ __ ] real tell me how you got [ __ ] or like if you as much as you could share basically like i'm with my best friend him well this one i'm with him johnny what's your name johnny b okay we in the car around the same age he's three years older than me okay so his birthday september 29 89 um i'm october 22nd 1992. okay this is on october 22nd 2013. when this happened it's my birthday when this [ __ ] happened okay we're in the car it's my birthday he told me we're going to pick up some women we in the car somebody open the back door like and like draw down boom he draw down he start shooting so he draw that and say she just started landing yeah whole bunch of shots go off i end up shot he end up dead and another one of them end up getting shot too boom he collapsed the other [ __ ] get out the car he run he collapsed down the street i get out the car i'm in the passenger seat my he in the driver's seat my best friend i get out the car i um run knock on somebody dope cause i had blood on my phone so i had that was like the old iphone with the squad button i'm trying to get down unlock my phone to call it ambulance slippery yeah it's like and it's you know how the blood dries right so i knock on somebody though boom damn you knew you were [ __ ] yeah yeah i know because i got shot first off the real when you get hit i got the first shot i got hit right here in the collar right damn then like a couple on i like i got like some arm shot like two three shots in my arm one on like hit my neck but it ain't really pierced it out of the way but it was like it still was open like bleeding and then i got hit in my hand and then my finger right so i'm knocking on the doe but i can't move this arm like it's on over with something well if i can't come to the door i run back to the car grab my phone i think i just like wiped it or some [ __ ] like on my jeans call 9-1-1 it's the crazy [ __ ] i call 9-1-1 as i'm calling 9-1-1 to carter the other folks saying they ride past what but the gun ain't no more bullets in the gun so i just yo guys are you here i ain't even got my gun and his gun in his pocket but i don't notice that i know he had a gun because he he licensed like not licensed to care but like he had a gun and he had a felony exactly legit exactly so god damn but i'm not knowing his gun in his pocket and then i i'm right-handed so my right arm oh exactly so i just lean back boom i'm on the floor with the ambulance though so i i lean back i don't say nothing to the ambulance i told her i'm shot already but i don't say no when the car ride pass i just put the phone down time to take cover exactly i laid back boom pick back up the phone like y'all just got shot i don't know where i'm at cuz i really don't know this area right boom they like okay the police pull up the police pull up i get out the car and i start walking toward the police police draw down with a punch oh you freeze i'm like look bro i just got shot in this arm i can't put this arm in there i can only put this arm in there that's putting this [ __ ] for real i'm like man i told them that for real yeah i'm my mama and what do you say i'm like i'm hit i can only put one arm on one arm up sir you're like come over here come over here come over here this [ __ ] see me shot up because my whole everything i still grab a [ __ ] this [ __ ] told me put my arms behind my back when you and you already hit i can't even move this arm period like if you look at my arm bro i got like a big ass rod in my arm like you see that scar that [ __ ] goes what he was hitting with the [ __ ] who shot me yeah they had i think one of them had like a 50 and the other one had a 350 sound okay what you get hit with though only i think i got i think this one was the 350 salmon and all the other shots with the father but goddamn i couldn't do [ __ ] with this arm bro like this this arm was over with like i it took me nothing like a year to really be able to even use my arm for it after that so got down were you rapping at this time not hell no yeah okay this is before rap i hadn't made a song i feel like everything in atlanta made a song but i went right i wasn't like i don't know rapping [ __ ] like china you weren't pursuing the crew yeah i went pursuing a career right so he sent me on the curb made me put my arms behind my back i just the [ __ ] that thing you know grady like well well i'm from the east side the only trauma center in atlanta is grady but that's the best one to go to yeah for sure but it's like this is your only option i don't give a damn where i'm at man any kind of trauma car accident gunshot style but it's the only option for from my side of town okay and this grade ain't that close right see what i'm saying so the ambulance pull up bro but before the ambulance pull up i'm telling the officer like my brother in the car he come back he don't say [ __ ] to me but i hear him radio like a cold and i knew when he didn't open the door he was dead he was alive he would have opened the door and tried to get him out so i know he dead at this time the ambulance pull up bro the ladies say it's a lady it's a lady nurse and a man um the man who's driving they put me on the stretcher cut my clothes out put me on the stretcher boom she say goddamn let's pull up and let's take him now cause if sarge get here he'll [ __ ] around and die cause they'll be trying to ask some questions before they let us take him away type [ __ ] right that [ __ ] [ __ ] with me like the whole like after i really was just thinking about it like down how many of my partners who like i went there but they got shot and they [ __ ] around and died because somebody wanted to question them i asked them what happened first type [ __ ] right but goddamn they take me to the hospital all that [ __ ] one of the ladies i had like four five thousand and some [ __ ] on me she got down put the money hurry up and grabbed the money before the folks got that gave it to my mama so they weren't trying to do no extra [ __ ] whatever whatever whatever but god damn after that that [ __ ] just changed the [ __ ] that's when i really started rapping i'm just gonna try something new damn on your birthday bro what birthday was it 21st yo 23rd that why you caught yourself 217. not him nah but it happened on my 21st though yeah damn bro yeah i mean man that you know that's like and that was your only time first and only time being [ __ ] no i got shot like a long time ago when i was young but it was like some [ __ ] like it wasn't really like no real shock shot right like a grave yeah like [ __ ] [ __ ] man that should have changed your psyche that should have changed the way you think the way you look at the world the way you perceive life yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i seen you uh on big facts with uh with big bank and dj screen jay the the the homies and i saw you say something that was so simple but yet so eloquent like man don't and what you said was don't let being gangster make you be no [ __ ] idiot yeah for sure don't be so [ __ ] tough and gangster to wear you you you don't you don't get a job if you got if you got to find a way to feed your family exactly speak i mean just speak a little bit like what gave you that that that perspective or that insight you ever had a job nah but i'm an immigrant though that's why i couldn't ever get a job so [ __ ] they were tripping on you with immigration and all that [ __ ] even before you became 2017 that just happened when you got when you got famous nah they weren't tripping it's just like the law is the law type [ __ ] so it's like when you're a legal immigrant like i i didn't i ain't never had no social security number i got one now though but right you have to have that to get a job to get like all the essential things that you need to survive in america a social security number play a big role in things you can't really first-hand social security because exactly you can't get a driver's license right without a social security you can't get a job without social security right so like that that hindered me a lot but i know a lot of people uh just how did you become an illegal immigrant how long have you been in america well we moved we moved to america probably like 98 so i was probably like six seven okay boom when we came we weren't illegal but this was before 9 11. a lot of the laws changed after 9 11. so we came we have we came on the la i don't know what it is i was young but i know it was a visa we had some type of visa this year's only supposed to be here for a limited period of time exactly okay boom we leave my mama my mama uncle died so my great uncle died so we go back to london like my whole family is from a island called dominica but like my mama i'm i'm the first generation no my mama is the first generation of our family that was born in london because they used to get a lot of the immigrants from london to come from the islands to come fight fight in the war fighting wars and enroll them in the army gotcha so that's how my family get from dominica to london okay boom come we come over here i'm probably like sick sam my uncle died my great uncle died when i'm probably like middle school this was like sixth grade how you enrolled in school if you ain't got no it's before 9 11. okay because before 9 11 you didn't need a lot of that [ __ ] like my mama had a license back then and everything okay i i don't know what year was but i know it was around whatever happened 9 11 they changed the law and that made my mom a license she could never go renew it so probably this has something to do with the patriot act you know what i'm saying a lot of this [ __ ] well now the liver can't really just like kobe it should just happen to make everybody scared so so they can get down do some political [ __ ] that they wanted to do that serves their purpose and agenda uh that's just the way this [ __ ] worked yeah yeah i mean i know that law changed [ __ ] so we went over the went to the funeral we come back when we come back i want to say the same that i know it was my sixth grade summer going into some great whatever happened when we came back um i want to say like that was we came back right before it expired so we come back we'll never leave since then okay type [ __ ] so i was gone for like probably like a month like half a summer yeah i went back that's why they said he been living here illegally since 2000 something because before then it we weren't living illegally right so usually but do you think could you guys have like just put in for an extension of a visa or file for some citizenship or some [ __ ] yeah for sure but that [ __ ] my my people ain't had the money for that [ __ ] so that that's really why we didn't get like get it type [ __ ] [ __ ] man uh i remember when you know i'm saying when they when they snagged you and i was just like what i was surprised as a [ __ ] yeah this nigga's an illegal right i remember when we had like a long time ago we had uh i i invited you to a show yeah a show in dallas and got there we are cut around it uh it was a show in dallas matter of fact [ __ ] dionne sanders asked me to come do this show and it was it was really to perform kind of like to celebrate a a basketball team or some [ __ ] who posed to be going pro and posed to be like some real blue chips or some [ __ ] and uh and then you know saying of course they had the cheerleaders there who was also some you know little teenage girls and whatnot and so they had me to come and then i i i i i i tell savage i tell you what i got five grand for you to do this show but you got to get yourself there yeah yeah i remember that well tell me your perspective tell that story how did it happen uh you hit me like [ __ ] i got some money i got some shows lined up in dallas if you can get to dallas i got some money for you sh i went and got a rental my manager meezy got me a runner in his name i got a rental [ __ ] and i drove me was you with me yeah you were like uh me a leia i forgot who else went with me bro that [ __ ] was so long ago but then you had you had a van full of [ __ ] yeah we drove i think we came two cars deep because i think newton was with us too bone i think some somebody it was a van full of you somebody we had two rentals it was a lot harrowing i think it looks like you brought the whole apartment how it went chevy went quinn nah quinn when quinn went with me i drove i know in the car it was me and alert and i drove the whole way there i just booted up [Laughter] uh and so when we get there right and we and savage do the show you know what yeah you think that was 14. that will probably be 14 2014.14. yeah yeah and that was before i dropped my mixtape i ain't had no mixtape out there yeah i don't know no it was just that one video you had skirt skirt yeah yeah yeah yeah that just jet that one video i said man that [ __ ] hard and i called you i don't know how i got your number nine i just reached out to you at the blue i did it was we went through somebody though bro i don't remember i you know i mean i just know because there wasn't no dm enough no no hell no i actually got you on the line and told you to pull up and it was the studio net though yeah dark but i'm trying to think it had to be through somebody or somehow man i don't know i don't remember but i know when i saw that video i said man that [ __ ] here he he gonna he gonna do some [ __ ] and i reached out to you you pulled up on me we began to develop the first thing he heard me man [ __ ] give me a million man you got it j give me a million man you know i say bro i it don't work like that yeah i want to create no false illusion uh cuz i'mma end up [ __ ] you over if i do that yeah cause my mirror you're gonna have to represent six sometimes that for me to make sense out of why i'm giving it to you right now but if you keep doing it how you doing it the money gonna come yeah and you know i remember uh i remember another time i think we was in i know i was in new orleans i think he was on the phone i was shooting at a [ __ ] roots movie yeah i remember that yeah used on the phone you tell me you told me man i ain't even gonna lie to you bro a lot of [ __ ] telling me i shouldn't even be [ __ ] with you man what the [ __ ] did [ __ ] say like why did they like what was they justification of telling you not to [ __ ] with tip [ __ ] just used to be like man tip tight tilt tight tip tight like we're tight with the money with the money yeah tip honest they used to be like tilt tight tip ain't gonna go down but [ __ ] probably say that same [ __ ] about me now [Laughter] that damn but gee about you though you told me that yeah you didn't take what somebody else told you about me and choose not to [ __ ] with me and j keep it in silence you say man i'ma keep it real with you bro [ __ ] telling me nothing [ __ ] with you man oh god i remember that [ __ ] hey man uh man you have a lot of you have a lot of principle in your character it's a lot of moral you're a man of consequence a man of conviction you know what i'm saying you nj really just going for whatever you need you're going with the flow no no and that [ __ ] man that [ __ ] got there hard to come back that's your heart you say you think that your mama put that in you yeah i feel like my mom ain't just me just growing up the way i grew up type [ __ ] people i grew up around the [ __ ] i used to see like i feel like i was born in the last era where the cold was the cold right type [ __ ] so i feel like a lot of that [ __ ] like rolled off on me before it was just the wild wild west right you know what i'm saying what about pops what about you you you ever have any contact with your dad like my mama boom my mommy and my real daddy she only got one child with him that's me she got four other children with my stepdad he came out here with us like but but he from london too yeah got it right so we came we all came together so he was in my life like most of my life right like he was with my mama since i've been born he'd been in her life right so he was my father my real daddy i ain't really like ain't nothing like but i feel like the distance [ __ ] it up because like when i from what i remember when i was a child he was in my life when we lived in london but i feel like when we moved over here it [ __ ] up our relationship type [ __ ] so i don't even talk to him since nah i ain't talk to him since i was probably like like voice heard his voice like talk to him on the phone i probably talked to him since i was like 12 or some [ __ ] you interested not really because he's like i'm a man now like i don't care where my child at bro i'm gonna be in your life they're real that's real what i gotta do where i gotta fly to what i gotta do i'm gonna make that [ __ ] happen i feel it so i feel like if you let that come between our relationship then you really it wasn't really [ __ ] yeah what if you reach out to you though it's too late now you wouldn't even sit down nah that's just like that's just like god damn if i was just like i just went in my son's life and then he just make it to the nba it's like okay you're saying you think now he just you you were questioning his motives yeah but question why he wanna say that but i wouldn't even say that that this is his motive but it'll just i it'll still be a question in the air because it's like [ __ ] you can't trust it i'm 28 years old bro like i got shot [ __ ] if my son gets shot bro saying i'm hopping on the first thing i'm smoking there's a lot of pain in it there's a lot of pain in that knowing that a [ __ ] know you damn near gonna die and still didn't goddamn reach out oh god but he might not have known though he know he knew because one thing my mom and my mama my mama never been to mama that said [ __ ] your daddy my mama always been a mama that that said give him a chance uh don't think like that about it uh reach out to him or whatever whatever since i was a child she ain't never been the i'm going to sever his relationship with his father ever in her life that's sad that's here so i know it wasn't never nothing where he didn't know he always knew and my mama used to always tell him like you gotta do more because it's gonna be to a point where he ain't even gonna he don't feel like he never had you so you mean to tell me that uh so your mom was actually talking to him yeah and suggesting for him to reach out to you yeah and he still did he tried to but it was too late then it's like you you i think my mama told him come over here come see him oh he in the hospital and i i feel like she said like he tried to cut he tried matter of fact she he was on the phone and she tried to hand me the phone while i was in and i said i don't want to talk type [ __ ] of course [ __ ] like that but my mama ain't never just have you heard about the kind of person your dad is how do people describe your daddy i feel like like my only rel my only way of knowing how my daddy was was from that side of the family so like i know what my mama told me but we ain't really just had no too many did she say he would like it was like a square is he like a hood [ __ ] like what kind of he like a hood [ __ ] okay you smoke weed [ __ ] like that okay but yeah i really don't know because it's like it ain't like you from another city like this [ __ ] like a whole nother country so it's like and i feel like our relationship [ __ ] up my relationship with my siblings too from that side and just that side of the family period would you really speak would you speak to them yeah yeah for sure okay well [ __ ] but i feel like i'm a grown ass man now so it's down to like it's like going to a family reunion yes with a bunch of people you don't really know exactly yeah see this is uh i'm gonna give you uh a story of mine like so my daddy was my daddy was um he was a hustler in new york man you know i mean he was 50 years older than me when my momma had me my dad was 50 years old when i was born my mama was 22. so my mama hi there was god damn she then ran off to new york with a 48 49 year old man at 19 years old you know what i'm saying [ __ ] around with 20 19 20 years old [ __ ] around and had me and so now it's her as a 22 year old you know she was going to georgia state you know i'm saying she dropped out of that to go [ __ ] my dad so was you born in new york uh-uh i was born down here i was born down here but she took me up there yeah okay so my dad is from atlanta but moved to new york okay all right so he's from fast street over there behind uh over there behind washington hat yeah all right so he had you know his brothers he had a a big family like four brothers and three sisters or some [ __ ] like that so her brother ran like they ran the [ __ ] from running numbers to you know all the the blow and all that other [ __ ] but they were sophisticated at least my pops he told me i moved at atlanta cause i was selling weed at a warehouse but he didn't tell me he was selling weed but he told me he got locked up at a warehouse and my sister pressure she told me to restore it so he was selling weed and [ __ ] at a warehouse yeah i got the same daddy yeah yeah my man i'm the only one came through my mama hey my mom ain't got no more children but me oh you're the only child only child that's his daughter too yeah yeah yeah yeah so my my my daddy had plenty of children before he met my mama right my sister precious was actually older than my mama no yes hell yeah yeah my sister pressure was older than my mama my husband used to hang out and [ __ ] you know what i'm saying so my daddy man my dad my dad were hell bro so so he's so so my sister pressure told me that he was working at the warehouse he was selling weed or whatever and god damn a [ __ ] had a toad on him while he was selling his weed at the warehouse he ended up having to you know go to jail due back i think it's about six months he did and when he got out of jail [ __ ] took off moving new york cause his brother uh head i think head and pete was up there in new york so they went up to new york and pretty much put it down in the era of you know [ __ ] uh a heroine when [ __ ] were coming back from the war hooked on heroin and [ __ ] so they went up there with that [ __ ] right and he amassed a small fortune my dad had a million or two and he was just kind of like from what i know of him and how people dealt with him and how you know he would demand who had it he was the [ __ ] like man this [ __ ] got it i'm gonna go ask him what he'd think about this situation because he know how to deal with money he know how to think his way through things and he was just kind of like a uh like a consecutive you know what i'm saying like a mafia [ __ ] [ __ ] come to and say what you think uh help me with this uh you know he was that kind of [ __ ] yeah now my mama him the the the the first memory the the the first memory i i remember in life is my mama untying her pulling tape off her mouth from from us being robbed by a [ __ ] who came to my daddy's apartment who who uh i later found out that my other sister had who's also older than my mama my other sister it was her boyfriend she brought him over there so then he doubled back he doubled back with nobody to help with me and my mama so we come in wait way out this atlanta nah this is this is new york yeah where y'all staying at in new york 94 for columbus uh the 94th of columbus uh uh columbus towers what that is man this is a [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah manhattan oh y'all standing oh yeah yeah yeah yeah he had he had he owned property in harlem he owned the building and his brother pete owned the building in harlem and like you know candy stoves and all kinds of property in harlem he lived in the upper west side you know what i'm saying so he come in got down with the pistol or whatever except i don't i didn't see the pistol to be honest i never saw him with a gun my momma told me he had a gun he showed it to her made sure he hid it for me i went with two years old she said right so god damn he separated us take her in the room sit me down in front of the tv put some cartoons on and him and her and back and forth she he asked her where the money is not all this old tight [ __ ] and um but the [ __ ] went nice and [ __ ] to me made me cereal took me to the bathroom when i had to go to the bedroom like i i couldn't tell we were being raw right yeah i mean not that i would have known the difference anyway but so he left i remember him leaving and when he left i thought it was like one of my daddy friends who just happened to have been coming back so when he left he yelled at the key on the zebra the picture of the zebra and you know what i'm saying so like you know it was a wall in in the living room it was a white wall and it had different pictures you know it was a picture of a zebra it was a picture of some cars it was just like different like art type pictures right and the zebra with the top picture so i go in there my mama and she handcuffed to to a big ass recliner chip tape on her mouth and her feet were tied up or whatever well they might not have been tired i don't remember so i would go up to her and i pull the tape off her mouth and i say why tape your mouth up mama he thank you talk too much and she said but help me get in here you know what i'm saying so i i go in there to the room with her and uh i couldn't reach the zebra uh picture so she kind of like banged the chair forget the wall and when the key fell i grabbed it and loosened up okay my daddy's brothers and sisters and [ __ ] put in his head that she had something to do with that yo mama yeah like thank you like man she set you up bruh she set you up okay cool so then when i moved back to atlanta my my dad yeah he got the money yeah he got the money he left out of there with some hundreds of thousands he left out of there with some hundreds of thousands he got the money all right so we moved back to atlanta now the reason i know my momma may have [ __ ] to do it because i knew we came back to atlanta we had [ __ ] yeah i mean we would have had some [ __ ] it would have been you know i mean it would have been something to show for so i know she ain't having to do that i ain't finding this [ __ ] until i was older and grown but i never [ __ ] with my daddy's brothers and sisters never didn't know why never [ __ ] with them i didn't know why i didn't [ __ ] with them but i just didn't i always just felt bad energy from you know i [ __ ] with my daddy but when it come to hear brothers and sisters i just always felt like they looked cuz i was the first boy he had a bunch of girls until me right so i guess they saw me as a threat like and they gonna leave probably gonna lead him all the [ __ ] money and probably go you know what i mean that kind of [ __ ] yeah so i felt something i just felt a weird energy from them all the time i remember being 15 years old i started selling dope and moving around in the streets and [ __ ] and god damn i got [ __ ] i got locked up went to juvenile and [ __ ] my daddy found out about it and my dad would type in [ __ ] he always consult with people he always asks people like what do you think about this situation so he asked his goddamn brothers and sisters really was his sister florence she did now but sister florence bro she was real i think i'm better than everybody i'm uppity and i don't have you know i don't understand what other black people going through right because i'm out of hood so i don't give a [ __ ] right man they later told and i ain't never spent the night at florence house i ain't never had no relationship we never had no kind of interaction at all but i wore bad as hell so he asked her and she said you should send them to boarding school you just send them away to boarding school you just send them to military school that that would that what he said and uh he come to me with that [ __ ] he say man i'm sending you to military school because that would everybody say you need i say huh you said to me well i said so what you think i'm finna leave my mom in these section eight apartment while i go to i go away to military school and you think nah brian going for that he said well i'ma cut you out i say [ __ ] i'm cut off that's it and that was my plug to be honest with you man that really like i used to go to new york every summer and get fresh for school come back and have like bubble coats and you know just fresh [ __ ] that i one day my mama was never able to get me that when nobody else you know had no goddamn real real uh ability to do that but him so i knew the sacrifice that i was making when i said well [ __ ] it then cut me up so that's what he did and i remember my uncle one of my uncles in prison at the time quinn was in prison man was still moving around man back and forth from here to new jersey man doing whatever the [ __ ] he was doing and my mama telling me hey so quentin man that's your mama brother quentin man and my mama's brothers yeah yeah yeah yeah and they kind of who told me early on like how my daddy wore right they were like man look when we couldn't get no work no well your daddy got up five bricks he's selling fish from new york city yeah he's the real deal now yeah don't get it [ __ ] up don't think now he doesn't got old now and he kicking it with you because you his son but [ __ ] let me tell you something your dad is serious yeah and i was like man [ __ ] that [ __ ] man yeah i mean and they were telling me hey man listen he getting old because at the time we were going through this he was 65. i was 15 he was 65. right i was just thinking that i'm good yeah i mean he like they were like he getting old got there you don't know how much more time you gonna have with him the worst thing you could do because we didn't talk for like three years bro they were like the worst thing you could do is let him die or not what they never say let him die the worst thing you could do is have something happen and you don't have a chance to you know the community take advantage of the chance to communicate and i was like [ __ ] that sounds like [ __ ] he need to be thinking about too [ __ ] he know he's gonna die if he's gonna die he know it yeah he need to be trying to write out you know i mean i just had that kind of mentality uh and the one thing yeah but before we fell out i wanted to be a rapper and i knew that [ __ ] now you know at first my uncle clint said you learn everything it is about you know about the music [ __ ] about the rap [ __ ] and i'm gonna put all the money behind you you know them [ __ ] selling dope you know having their way but then [ __ ] got sent to prison so now i'm still learning but i ain't got nobody who got that push who's gonna put that money behind me to send me where i need to go so my daddy man you say man what you need to do to get you know me and i said man i need to get in the studio so then i got to have to figure out how to get in the studio where studio was and my daddy was the [ __ ] one who gave me you know he gave me i think maybe 350 something like that to get in the studio so i went in and recorded me a little demo and [ __ ] [ __ ] and got down get me in the wheel but he was supportive even though he like man you need to just go to school get you a job man you know what i mean but he still gave me the money and um before he died bruh he caught all times had to move back to atlanta this was around the time i was making uh uh i'm serious at the time so i was making them serious at the time yeah about two thousand ninety 2 000 around in that time and he was living with my with my sister pressure she was taking care of and his friend my dad was the kind of [ __ ] he don't give a [ __ ] how big he is if he called your friend [ __ ] muhammad ali walking that [ __ ] he called a friend say hey man you know my [ __ ] be boxing name muhammad ali hey man my friends say you don't know you man then you ain't nobody here people don't know you you ain't no [ __ ] body yeah so i remember right me kept like going to my sister precious house seeing my dad and he always knew who i was you know what i mean and uh i remember the look on his face when my album when i'm serious drop right and he say they say uh he say his best friend name was rb uh and and he said rb say you made it i be say you know you say man i'm proud of you you did it you did it and that [ __ ] made me feel so good you know i mean that he died knowing that the [ __ ] i set out to do even though he thought that [ __ ] wasn't gonna happen right i made that [ __ ] still alive no i'd be died too many [ __ ] oh bruh [ __ ] oh my man we talking about [ __ ] man my daddy moved to new york in the 50s in 1950 damn when he was 20 you did what i'm saying he moved up there and made it away for himself so he was born in the 30s he was born in 1930 all right that's when my daddy was born you dig what i'm saying yeah man my dad was born in the third in 1930 but i say that to say bro so how soon did he die after i'm serious drop [ __ ] the next show i'm serious draw october 2001. my daddy died in 2002. so he got this sick he got to see it but and then he he ain't have his he knew me because i'm the only boy well actually no no no no i'm the oldest boy now i got my brother bryce i'm like 11 years older than him yeah i mean so how long have you known bryce man i've been there i've been there with bryce he was born like every time i went to new york for the summer it was me and bryce right there that's that's been my partner right yeah i mean uh i always [ __ ] with him i [ __ ] with him all of my daddy's younger children i always [ __ ] with them a lot more you know what i mean like my sister teacher my brother bryce we had another sister but we find that that one realized sister so it ain't really ain't [ __ ] down you know i mean yeah uh so tasha bryce then uh of course i [ __ ] with my oh my daddy's oldest daughter velma she was actually my manager she was the first person her and her husband kind of took me under their wing put me in the studio and you know started showing me like how to do the music [ __ ] it didn't work but i still [ __ ] with them they let me live in the house and [ __ ] yeah i mean then my sister precious pressure's always she usually let me come spend the night at a high like [ __ ] up precious and felicia would and and velma was the only [ __ ] who let me spend the night at they have i was bad as a [ __ ] when nobody let me come around their kids yeah i would kind of don't don't be mixing in with that little badass tilt a little badass man yeah nobody wanted their children to hang around me you know what you know what the funny part is same [ __ ] were calling me hey you think you could uh get with my son because he no [ __ ] you want them hanging around me then oh god the [ __ ] i'm hanging around i'm not [ __ ] they actually made me feel like i was they made me feel like [ __ ] like [ __ ] i was really cursed or some [ __ ] like you know saying i started keeping myself away from people like [ __ ] like i used to tell my little cousin for sean and his brother demar they sister rakia my other cousin javon i tell them man now y'all can't hang around me bro i don't want y'all hanging around me cuz i don't want to be responsible ain't no telling what i'm going to get into i don't want you around me yeah i mean and you know we work through that and you know because as a family we have to we have to build and grow together if you just if you if you say you got a family member and you say man i ain't god damn [ __ ] with you because you this you dig what i'm saying then we ain't family i'm just like a [ __ ] off the street for real you don't treated me because if you meet a stranger you gonna base how you treat him off of what he do and don't do your family is supposed to be like okay you probably say okay well this [ __ ] [ __ ] up right what you're doing is [ __ ] up i'm finna show you why it's [ __ ] up and show you how to make it better if you can't do that then we really you know what i mean ain't no family there so that's how i felt growing up so i ain't never [ __ ] with my daddy's side of the family yeah i mean i ain't never [ __ ] with them not because you know i just i don't know him [ __ ] and i feel like just like you said i don't trust your intentions now yeah it's too late now that i'm ti what the [ __ ] i'm going oh yeah oh now you want to come around i'm already a father now you dig what i'm saying [ __ ] dumb andy scene my kids another thing another thing my dad told me my dad ain't never met my kid for real my daddy met my first three kids he met my first three and he told me right he said uh he said man don't get old alone don't get old by yourself you know i mean find somebody who you can have a life with right you dig what i'm saying don't don't do like this he was telling me like this right here this ain't this ain't it this ain't it you know i had all my fun i did everything it was to do but looking back i just shoulda you know i should have found somebody who i could really settle down with and have a life with yeah you know what i'm saying that i hear that [ __ ] all the time even when i be on my [ __ ] i hear that [ __ ] all the time you know what i'm saying have somebody to do that's a big i think that's that that plays a big part in me as a family man you dig what i'm saying that [ __ ] yeah it it it resonated it rather you feel like that [ __ ] made you a better man like maybe a different man i would have been different i think i would have been different i probably would have been on some [ __ ] mike livery type [ __ ] man you know what i mean how did you been [ __ ] [ __ ] like you probably just you know moving around doing whatever the [ __ ] it is that you know feeds my flesh do you feel like you feel like a a man can be happy without one without what without a wife somebody just to uh go through life he can be happy out until he fall on on [ __ ] up times he could be happy yeah he gonna have a bunch of good days cause you ain't gotta make no sacrifices you ain't gotta make no compromises with nobody it's all about what you want it's all about what you you know i mean it's all about you so you're gonna be as happy as you can make yourself you did however you get to you know a point of old age so it happened when you were in the hospital and you know i mean your mama you too old to be dependent on your mama with expenditure you need somebody else there you know i mean and really it ain't nobody else if it's just you bro jk you imagine if it if something happened to you or if you was lit and then not talk about a gunshot [ __ ] like that let's talk about let's say if a [ __ ] caught cover count cover let's say council [ __ ] cat council you got to spend all their time in the [ __ ] hospital you got to go through all this [ __ ] you got a goddamn uh uh make sure you take out in medicine and all that [ __ ] and you gotta do that what that [ __ ] would just want somebody because they don't want to be alone no it ain't just that it's other [ __ ] too but you asking me about being happy if a [ __ ] could be happy you're gonna be happy until [ __ ] like that happened yeah you see what i'm saying i believe in that [ __ ] i ain't got a listen man i love my family i love my children i love my wife i love my life you dig what i'm saying that true enough it ties with the [ __ ] get aggravating [ __ ] get frustrating [ __ ] make me want to feel like man [ __ ] this [ __ ] but at the end of the day i say man to be honest with you where you gonna find somebody where you can get there and trust that they there because they [ __ ] with you and not just there cause you ti where you gonna go find that [ __ ] as you really really gonna meet somebody today and be able to be all in with them knowing that they got damn you know really there for the long haul you gonna second guess every [ __ ] step in that relationship you gonna always wonder if you doing the right thing the wrong thing you're gonna every part of that is gonna be like should i hmm is it is it real like that one thing i ain't never got to worry about if i got down i know it's real you know what i mean we don't know everybody in the head day outs yeah she doesn't have the opportunity to get the [ __ ] out and have my opportunity to get the [ __ ] out the only reason we stand is because we want to be here ain't no other reason exactly you know i mean she ain't here for the money because she got her own i ain't here you know what i'm saying for the money because i got my own we here because we want to be here and that's something i don't know if i could find with anybody else when do [ __ ] go half and half like when you meet a girl right y'all move in why is the man always expected to do the most to cover most but then i'ma tell you what but then like women i had that argument where it's like i believe it should be equal i don't want my words to get twisted but why it ain't always treated equal well all around the board well i would tell you this the dumbest thing anybody ever did in life in the history of humanity is pay the cost and not be the boss period i don't give a damn man woman or child you did what i'm saying right whoever is paying a hundred percent of the bills have a hundred percent of the say unless you're married if you married within the money that you paid with is half hoods anyway so it don't matter but in a relationship just a girlfriend boyfriend situation if you don't pay all the bills and that's that's that goal for if a woman is paying 100 of the bills or if a man is paying 100 of bills it ain't just excluding it ain't exclusive to just men exactly if if it's a a man living in a house with a woman and the woman paying all the bills if she bring another [ __ ] home one day that [ __ ] need to just get them go to the basement you dig what i'm saying yeah i mean because you ain't paying your and then like to me i just feel like men are supposed to be in positions of of kind of like leadership i just feel that uh not saying women can't lead that ain't what i'm saying i'm just telling you what my expectations of myself is as a man and that that that is going to set the standard of what i expect to see from other men right all right i think a man pulled even if she can pay it man my wife ain't allowed to pay no bills if you pay bills you pay the bills that you want to pay for the stuff that you want to do for yourself you ain't got to worry about coming home and paying no bills here that ain't no problem i ain't if i can't pay the bills my [ __ ] then it's an issue uh now there are certain things that i feel like she and i can't collaborate together on like we bout to buy a piece of property and you know it's gonna be kind of like more of a compound that we gonna grow and build and do this together so i want some of her money on that because it's something that we doing together but and it's secondary it's a secondary resident it ain't we need this house to live in this is something we want to build for generational wealth and to have you know we want to see this [ __ ] happen for our children and they children so we gonna do this together that's something out of my respect for her i want i want to build and grow something from the bottom up with her you know what i mean oh god rather than the house you know the lake house the house you see on family hustle that's a house man bro i didn't even want this [ __ ] house how long you had that house man i had the hell god damn now it is [ __ ] 14 year old bruh 14 year 2006 14 years so that's a house that she said she told me i always want to live on a lake i want to live on some water like damn we in atlanta what the [ __ ] yeah i mean so i found this place and she shows no she took me to this lake and it's the only lake or the closest lake where you can have a boat a jet ski you know what i mean all on your back dog and that's some [ __ ] that would like [ __ ] you don't find that in the city oh yeah i got a boat i ain't never bought no jet ski but yeah i mean i got like you know a little you know a little boat with a motor and that's the [ __ ] you don't really find here damn i ain't know that that existed yeah yeah yeah if you want a house let me know um [Laughter] god damn but so i bought that house really man so we went looking at housing it was one that wasn't even finished yet and then we tried to buy that one and we had the money i had jay got like uh a 5 million dollar something and then another 10 million dollars something and another two million i was sitting and plus i was doing shows so i you know i mean out it was no issue so it was the one house that we wanted it wasn't 100 finished it made a head but 75 percent of it done the owner wouldn't sell me the house because the other [ __ ] around there the neighbors was like nah no [ __ ] like no don't sell it to him basically so he's so he blocked me from buying out i said oh hell no so we got we went to riding around the [ __ ] neighborhood asking [ __ ] to sell me they help i just basically ride down the street like i could live in that house that one let go add them and we found a [ __ ] and i overpaid like a [ __ ] just about with my pride and my ego but because she wanted that help yeah i mean i later grew to love it i've been on the lake maybe two three times man i ain't really know i mean too many mosquitoes and all that little kind of [ __ ] ain't gonna jump in no late man [ __ ] man come on bro yeah i mean but i bought it because that was she wanted and we raised our children there so that has like a sentimental exactly connection you know what i mean it ain't really nothing it i'm a prodigy keep it in the family yeah i mean canal i'm redoing the whole house redoing the basement putting the bowling alley and all kinds of other [ __ ] in there i had a re-did my master bedroom master bathroom i didn't turned it i got a whole big-ass closet this you know what i mean like some [ __ ] that only [ __ ] like us gonna appreciate that so it ain't really i ain't gonna be able to get my money's worth out of it i'm just investing in it because i know i ain't going to get rid of it and i want it to be up to my stomach exactly god damn but this this so that how she never paid a bit and never had to pay a bill if she wanted something done a certain way like for instance she wanted palm trees going down to my [ __ ] driveway so that's something she did she went spent her money and got palm trees on both sides of the driveway and that [ __ ] looked good you know what i mean but that ain't nothing that she had to do that's something she wanted to do so that how i feel your woman should be able to reserve her funds for [ __ ] that she wanna do within the house exactly not that it's me my [ __ ] need me to come in or else we gonna be put out yeah and you got down like that then bro you ain't really like that ain't no position of leadership that's a position of partnership it's also important for us as as as men to think about what makes the woman whole like just think about what make them feel confident and and feel purposeful feel needed feel like they doing some [ __ ] that you know i'm saying it's important and i never really like we especially as a young [ __ ] man you know saying we we we'd be so intent on building doing and having it our way we only be thinking about what the neck [ __ ] might experience how the next [ __ ] might feel oh god so it's important for us to do that and i ain't really see that [ __ ] until i had a daughter like i started to see what women go through when my daughter would come to me and be like yeah but man that ain't fair because you don't do them like that i'm like huh yeah you're right i don't but it's different you know what i'm saying it's different and it's hard to explain that but that is a that is a a battle that women fight from birth fighting to be treated equally as men i feel like it's because god damn like daughters don't really carry on the legacy like sons do they often married into another legacy but it's more to a legacy than just a name no you got principles you got morals you got sta and and to be honest with you to be honest with you the win the the daughters stick to the cold more than the sun because when the sun meet the wife the wife gonna god damn dictate and determine how that [ __ ] move forward for the most part and then when the one when the woman meet the husband the husband gonna dictate too because he really matters most of the time the women run this show most of the time i give you an example let's just say if i get old right i get old in the same position as my as my daddy would well i got all time was a dementia or something like that where i can't take care of myself right if i go to my son's house and his wife say man it's too much he got to go we got to put him in a home i'm gone if i go to my daughter house and her husband say she's going to say hell no he gonna gotten upset this hospital bed up right into my [ __ ] living room you got them you know that like it's it's it's pros and cons to both sides i feel like it's 50 50 though when it comes to that because the son got to say so too happy wife happy life that's what that [ __ ] you know i mean so ultimately okay if y'all have a breakdown in communication she feel one way you feel another way you're gonna be decided by the [ __ ] you're gonna be like well you ain't gonna push it in [ __ ] all right cool no [ __ ] for you now now what and you're like man god damn pops you got to go man like for real that really the way that [ __ ] gon got damn boiled down and 95 percent of the time this house gonna happen women control that [ __ ] with the [ __ ] i feel like as a man i'm just naturally more overprotective for my daughter than i am with my son that's also true this is also true i don't know why i don't know what it is but i just i feel like it's cause it's me and we know how we do women because sons can't get pregnant that too but it's like sons can't get pregnant but we know how we treat women so i feel like i just don't want my daughter to ever just run into one of them [ __ ] but you can't keep her from running now you can't keep her but i want her to know how to feel real love so that she's not so she know how to discern what's the difference between the two yeah see what i'm saying absolutely i think that's that's key that's key being able to [ __ ] uh provide the you know what me me and lil duvall call it uh thought prevention hours you got to put in them fat prevention hours keep your daughter off the pole you know what i'm saying so you just you spending time going to daddy daughter dances and you're taking them on trips with just you and her those are thought prevention hours that you're putting in you got to do that yeah don't do that but i ain't gonna be somewhere in magic city man you know what i'm saying trying to figure that yeah so that is absolutely necessary for any father if you ain't putting in your thought provincial now then your daughter end up with down so don't blame her now don't look at her talk about oh you [ __ ] had it no [ __ ] you didn't set an example you did not set an example you did not show what the [ __ ] it was that she should be doing versus what she's doing right so i think you know i mean that has that has a huge but i i see i feel like mothers are more overprotective of daughters too than sons yeah i think it's definitely across the board i want to talk a little bit about the appearance you made on my album i want to talk to you a little bit about uh yo yo verse on thank god on the libra right um you wouldn't need po to really be on the album for real it wasn't even like you know saying i caught well i had asked you but then i guess you know you got busy and doing [ __ ] and then we never get a chance to get it done so i'm wrapping up the album i'm in mixing and mastering mode turning in the album the last date and uh we was upstairs you were playing yeah i was playing poker i ain't played that day cause i was focusing on getting my [ __ ] done yeah and i was just playing this [ __ ] for y'all cause i you know i ask y'all y'all opinion per se but i did like i was watching y'all response and reactions to it so i'll know what the [ __ ] whether or not this [ __ ] is god damn on key right and as i'm as i'm as i'm playing music all the way down it get to thank god and you say man see that's the kind of [ __ ] man i want to do i say [ __ ] man let's do it yeah and but yeah but you were up on the table and you were like man i'm gonna be back i ain't gonna do it today i came back the next day and you came back to fear and that day and you handled your business yeah now did you already hear that [ __ ] wrote or did you just walk in there and do this [ __ ] i just walked in and did it okay so i'm gonna tell everybody out there this man recorded the fast invertebrate every time i it it wasn't any time to roll up a blender smoke it me and uh i don't know if till uh you and some of the other homie was in the look the lounge necked up to the room we was in the [ __ ] man we had that rolled up and before we could finish the blunt we were we hit that road you came out said you were done yeah how the [ __ ] you do that it ain't hard the rap is hard to like come up with a direction of what the song is so i feel like when that's it's like it's already a foundation of the song laid out it make it way way easier like it's way easier for me to do a feature than it is to create a whole song with a hook and everything and be on track so it's like you already had like thank god that we made it here right went through everything but we here right so it's kind of hard it's easy to just be like i know what i'ma say i know and it's the truth so it ain't hard for me to just truth ain't hard to tell it's easy yeah well [ __ ] man i just feel like you got down shared some perspective and then you kind of you and then you fell into a pocket too yeah for sure you know liability code we don't talk to the police yeah i'm good but you already had that little flow so it's just like change the words yeah yeah yeah but hey man that [ __ ] i appreciate you for doing it and i appreciate you being at the position that you're in uh and representing what you represent for the culture and the generation to shed that kind of light to speak that kind of truth right that [ __ ] is important because it ain't a lot of [ __ ] who willing to get out there and really say that everybody everybody want to make themselves look the toughest as they can everybody got they want to pretend like they got 100 million dollars and got down and shot a thousand guns and then got goddamn beat 7500 cases yeah everybody just want to go out there produce this image of bravado without no real goddamn substance to it right so for you to do that that [ __ ] that was that [ __ ] that was real silent man um why you think it went wrong what you mean we're like the morals and everything we stand on like because it had to come from somewhere it couldn't just came out of nowhere so what do you think was going wrong that was like hurt people hurt people help people if a person has been hurt people they gonna hurt somebody exactly yeah so that way it went wrong you know what i'm saying uh ambassador one of my mentors ambassador andrew young man uh who happened to be with martin luther king right hand man i know so god damn he told me he said man look i found that the [ __ ] rolled downhill white man white man beat the black man black man come down on the black woman black woman come down on the child child kick the dog dog chase the cat cat chase the mouse you know what i mean yeah that's really how the [ __ ] happened yeah you know what i mean i feel like a lot of a lot of our father figures and male role models they felt so ashamed of of of how they were being treated in society they just couldn't face us they didn't feel like they were respectable enough in the in society in the community they felt so ashamed that they like man [ __ ] i'd rather not be there than just be there and be a and be a sucker be less of a man i'd rather just disappear you know what i'm saying little [ __ ] remember me how they remember me yeah i mean yeah i feel like that's kind of like a big part of it then prison play a big part then the dope you know i mean with crack the crap epidemic that [ __ ] played a big part of it uh and then there's a lack of education lack of understanding lack of communication we only know how to communicate yeah a lot of [ __ ] don't even know how to speak they mind to tell you how they feel yeah like you know a lot of times we just see [ __ ] just blow up my [ __ ] [ __ ] i don't want to [ __ ] thank you when really you just hurt my feeling you know i'm saying you made me feel small and i really don't know how to respond to that so now i'm just i'm just acting out in violence yeah more people don't know they can't articulate that [ __ ] yeah and i think that is kind of what began to widen the gap yeah i just wish that [ __ ] didn't happen well you know i think you know saying change is slow that [ __ ] goddamn it take us a little time but one step at a time man we'll get there man i ain't got no ain't no doubt in my mind about that uh how many kids you got three how many boys two two boys one girl yeah your girl the youngest mother yeah and you treat your daughter different than your son nah what do you mean treat i mean like you say oh more overprotective yeah for sure yeah yeah me too me too ain't no way around that [ __ ] it really i also remember when we was upstairs talking man y'all playing poker and got down and we were just kind of like we were just you know i guess i was just talking i said a word you like bro what what that mean bro ascertain yeah that's the time yeah so that's gonna be the word of the week you know i mean we have a tradition here where we you know we give out a word of the week um and and and just because this was actually a word that i used in general conversation with with with savage and he actually say bro what what what does that mean bro and i say uh and i went through a whole bunch of goddamn words and you say oh you mean comprehend yeah [ __ ] that's what that's a perfect definition so the definition of ascertain is to comprehend um so why the hell do that exist when you can just like comprehend well i mean because the english language is so diverse and it's you know is the same way god damn you could say the definition of one word you could say your other words you could say anything i know it was so is gun gat strap you didn't say it that's kind of like slang though that ain't real words in addiction man every word in the dictionary is another word for it i myself me every word in the dictionary you got another word for it it's up to you to decide wouldn't but that's because they are placed in different places like you say i in a certain instance because you're talking about parts of speech because vowels and all that type of [ __ ] true true i mean it's just another time in comprehension yeah okay how about understand [ __ ] understand the same in comprehension no not really why not how so understand comprehend ascertain all the same words you can res i feel like comprehending is like being able to read something in what is the definition of comprehend understand that's the definition of comprehension let's look it up [ __ ] let's go to the google yeah let's see what the [ __ ] we don't think that's it i do i believe i think comprehend is like to do with reading something and knowing what you read comprehending with you yeah yeah exactly understanding what you read let me see some comprehend definition but you know i'm saying these okay comprehend uh grasp mentally understand [ __ ] crazy i mean but it's the english language bro you know what i'm saying it's so many different words and so many ways to say everything it is that we say we had that conversation last night right they was trying to explain it to me and i didn't understand it so we were talking about slavery and how america was built okay so my question was if the slave owners came from europe england they went to africa and got slaves where did the american accent come from what american accent like you know how we say y'all we or we might say some of the country [ __ ] like the way just the just period like the way we pronounce words that don't ain't pronounced in in in the the original english language okay spelling it how did that happen the language of engl the english language came from where you from the uk right from from great britain and so most of those [ __ ] came from great britain right and so when they came here they brought that language with them right but as [ __ ] just continue to go out there and live and and they speak in their own way and you know that the [ __ ] who came over here let me tell you something let's say the queen the queen of england or whatever have some some she sent out her men christopher columbus and then worked for the queen you did what i'm saying so they had ships and they would said they were really trying to get to china they call themselves taking a shortcut bump into uh uh america somewhere i don't know if it was like uh some of the caribbean or puerto rican somewhere some part of what we now know is america they bumped into this like oh [ __ ] we done found some [ __ ] but they found this [ __ ] with the queen's ships the queen's money the queen had been paying them they was under the queen's salary but when they found this [ __ ] it was really pro to be the queens because you was on the way to china but what they did was they just stayed over here like nah man [ __ ] we ain't just just ain't never gonna go back so then the queen said [ __ ] over here what the [ __ ] these [ __ ] that my ships took my money and ran off plus they probably got that run make a run to train and come back and they ain't came back yet yeah so that's what the the revolutionary war that's what independence day is it's africans in london and when they speak english they don't talk like americans so where did the american way that we speak to come from i mean we're talking about hundreds and hundreds of years ago i don't think that it was developed at the time when they got here but over time i just don't understand like if you go to london nobody sounds like an american bro from that from there but you know what what you know was closer to how uh uh people in in the uk talk was closest to that new york yeah boston boston new york yeah yeah yeah but so i understand that i don't i just don't understand i don't even understand like okay it's broken english when you get down to atlanta and [ __ ] in alabama atlanta mississippi [ __ ] us as black people that you're like like like like [ __ ] uh in in jamaica that's yeah they speak broken that's broken english right but take us out of it but it derives from take us out of it okay take the african side of it take all the black people out of it okay how the [ __ ] do these white [ __ ] from great britain how did they accent change when they came to america where they were from time time time and then they might have but because they came from over there they were trying to break free and be independent they might have just purposely started saying [ __ ] different that's what it said that's what when we looked it up yesterday that's what they said they said they started pronouncing the word are different to distinguish themselves i don't really believe none of that [ __ ] though i mean what you know i'm saying it's probably goddamn you know you got different things that's the way it went the way that we we known for the win i just don't believe [ __ ] really drove ships a month away to africa bro what got these people drove these ships another month away to [ __ ] america and just bro i just how you so how do you think it happened i don't know i i don't believe none of these people say bro it's hard for me to believe i've been you should go to ghana and go to uh the uh slave dungeons it's actually where the ships pulled in with people where they first came the portuguese first came to africa they docked right there and they went and they uh met with different tribes and they bought the slaves that's what they said well they turned okay so it was uh a track called the ashanti tribe and they were running [ __ ] having their way see back then use you could only have as much as as you could take or you know as much as your authority or the power that you have would allow you to like your dominance you got right i got money right so if you dominate if the shanty tribe is dominant we gonna we're gonna have russian resources and so they've been dominating for so long and been dominant for so long when the white folk or the portuguese pulled up they appealed to the people who were being dominated and said man aren't you tired of them got them [ __ ] over you ain't you tired of them got now [ __ ] we got guns we got we got and then they said they had mirrors they said a mirror they had never seen a mirror [ __ ] had never seen a mirror before it's like whoa what the [ __ ] is that then they had they got their weapons and [ __ ] that was it seemed like they came from the future kind of so they got there got tricked with the trinkets and that plus they ego them being tired of being dominated is what that [ __ ] really is crazy i if you think about it though like back then like i don't even know we don't even speak the same language how do we even communicate with each other for you to even tell me i was being dead wrong um that makes sense uh yeah yeah yeah i feel like it's either one or two ways see they went in there they weren't talking they was upping guns killing people like you don't want to be like that get on this [ __ ] ship right or whoever was dominating sold sold the people that they was dominating the people who were being dominated because i i've been there to i've seen many that [ __ ] [ __ ] it was weird if you could feel something you could feel something that i walked in there and that [ __ ] just felt i don't know the feeling how can you move over there like when you go over there can you bring security yeah but you don't really need it they like they peaceful people bro they ain't ain't nobody out there robbing and got them doing those [ __ ] like that it ain't nothing like that oh it ain't like that when i go to africa bro it's such a relief did i i don't feel like a [ __ ] trying to kill me if i go anywhere ever move though cuz i ain't gonna lie i wanna move that i would i would i moved to south africa like johannesburg johannesburg cape town is beautiful i moved to ghana i moved to nigeria you know i mean it's different places where you could go man that [ __ ] is phenomenal man some of the best land some of the best views some of the best weather living that you're ever that you ever experienced bro i ain't gonna lie i want to move that when i'm like done with my career and i'm just awesome laid back man right now man go take your 1000 go get you some land right now my [ __ ] you could build with a hundred thousand dollar man let's call it 350. you know what i mean why you could have some [ __ ] like over on weird pace of fairy you know beachfront you know what i mean oceanfront property that's yours [ __ ] ludicrous got a dual citizenship they had some [ __ ] called the welcome home or something like that where people come back to ghana and cagonno was the first place where they really start got down packing [ __ ] up when they had they have a slave dungeon they're like a holding cell they'll get the [ __ ] in the village they'll bring them back here and you're sitting in this [ __ ] until the ship came then when the ship come [ __ ] want to buy some sleigh they'll pull your ass out put you on stage and they'll auction your ass off put you on the ship and they'll take your ass on they have some [ __ ] caught the door of no return they say everybody back then they walked through that door never came back so we would you know they got something on youtube about that we walked back and forth through that [ __ ] a couple times you know what i'm saying we feel and they feel like it's a prophecy being fulfilled they feel like the the souls of those people who would took away from there can't rest and they think us coming back if we're gonna get there and let they let those spirits be able to rest in peace that's some deep [ __ ] i think [ __ ] man i think if you if you get opportunity man here yeah go to gun that [ __ ] dope it's dope and there's opportunity opportunity out there you know what ain't got over there you know what they got what no [ __ ] blue cheese you digging i'm saying ain't no [ __ ] hot wings ain't no wing stop ain't no bowling alley ain't no [ __ ] skate ring ain't no you know what i mean all the [ __ ] that we just take for granted in jail [ __ ] even in south africa [ __ ] uh cape town man my old lady was like man my old lady her home girl like [ __ ] these ladies over here putting their own [ __ ] lace front song and they look horrible it ain't nobody over they got the money to pay for it but they don't have nobody who knows the process of putting on a lace front or putting or doing eyelashes and [ __ ] like that it's they love our culture but it ain't enough of us over there to kind of like train and show [ __ ] how to do it so any of us who go over there and take whatever it is that we got here over there that [ __ ] gonna win [ __ ] just gonna win bro i think it could be a [ __ ] african instagram it could be a anything that that happened over here we could redo that [ __ ] over there and goddamn be the you know whatever we didn't seen and this [ __ ] worked over here but we were too late by the time we caught on to it the [ __ ] was already got damn runaway train take that [ __ ] right over there i'm gonna do that you dig what i'm saying i always got that and that's another thing man we always got now uh trade tactics or important uh strategies on how to kind of diversify your investments and [ __ ] like that uh whether it's buying property we talk about that stocks and all kinds of [ __ ] like that um how do you invest what do you what do what's your like methods of investment i like to take risks like i like to invest in small [ __ ] before i become the big [ __ ] right but i like property too but i feel like property is is ain't a fast process it's like a slower process it depends it depends it's a more you you have to know what areas you purchasing in that will yield a greater benefit faster right you know what i'm saying and it's always best even when you buy a piece of property to have a vision to go with it like i'm buying this piece of property because i know what i'm going to do with it i got a vision or or or some ambition that i'ma turn this into this that's our way good another thing people don't know if we neighbors yeah yeah we stay right in that dough to each other man you know what i'm saying we both got penthouses we're gonna tell you well but you know so we stay on the same floor right next door to each other and never see each other oh i god never even thought about it like that uh man i got a lot of respect for you man i love your music i [ __ ] with your [ __ ] and i [ __ ] with you as a person you know i mean uh i see you as you know a stand-up guy man of respect and it's great to have that kind of relationship with a [ __ ] from your generation uh because a lot of a lot of y'all look at us as haters right a lot of us look at y'all it's stupid right but it's great for us to have this rapport because it sets an example of the [ __ ] in your generation then now they gotta sit back and like damn well he can't be too much of a [ __ ] hater he [ __ ] with he [ __ ] with savage right he [ __ ] with he [ __ ] with thug it might be something wrong with me what am i doing wrong at this point right and then it caused [ __ ] from my generation to say well [ __ ] it can't be that stupid tip [ __ ] was savage but [ __ ] why why ain't [ __ ] what the [ __ ] what am i it lets everybody else who observing us see that this [ __ ] is possible right and i think that's important for the evolution of the culture you know i mean uh and you probably one of the most photographed exhibits at the trap music museum i still ain't been you need to get mad damn sure that this i place that [ __ ] is for us this is the we run control own operate and have clear [ __ ] reigns of the culture there we could do anything we want can't nobody tell us to come cut our music down can nobody tell us when and when not to do what we can and can't do that's our [ __ ] right anytime you have whether it's a [ __ ] album release a listening party or whatever the [ __ ] it is for your artist for whoever man feel free bro come in there [ __ ] like it's yours you that [ __ ] like it your because that's the intention that the purpose and intention of it right yeah i mean yeah goddamn but we appreciate y'all for [ __ ] what up man you know what i mean thank you so much for your time i know you don't usually do interview neil no yeah man they told me man tip gonna have to call them and ask them yourself bro but i appreciate that man love and respect this has been expeditious watch your favorite episodes of expeditiously right now on the expeditiously youtube page you

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Length: 94min 35sec (5675 seconds)

Published: Thu Dec 17 2020

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[u/Hope_Different]

Like 3 weeks late but I just watched this it’s an amazing interview figured you’d guys and gals would like it

[u/Raykelt]

T I talking about himself for the whole thing no one gives a fuck about you drinking lean