The Charlamagne Interview - No Jumper

[Music] [Applause] [Music] no jumper clothes podcast in the world and today I'm here with my buddy black Dave co-hosting and we're interviewing the one and only Charlamagne tha God yo you think I'm having me man amazing never get tired of talking yeah now he's interesting I never really I truly honestly I finish you get a chance to get one thing out which is always dope especially when I get to talk to people who I haven't talked to before we had one the green idiots of course but but you're saying you're sicker and results yeah what happened are you really yeah that's my guy yeah he's like I need friend or family member at that time you like what the [ __ ] here you go again right but then sometimes you really miss me see that's what I found crazy about you is that you're a workaholic you work your ass off but a lot of what you do it's not like if you have to go sit in a meeting then you can afford to be [ __ ] tired you can afford to be boring this is a meeting you know half the time you get the lawyer doing the work for you like your work is sitting on camera and the goal is to be as interesting as possible while you are on camera is it like that's got to be one of the harder things to do when you're exhausted so when your tire when you and especially just talking all the time don't you feel like you're kind of running out of material from time to time oh that's a great question but I mean I look at it as I'm it's not material because if I'm tired I'm just gonna say I'm tired mmm I'm just gonna say I'm exhausted you know what I'm saying like it's no need to front about it like I always tell people to live their true because you live your truth nobody can use your truth against you like the easiest thing to do is be yourself while the easiest thing to do is deal with the emotions that you're dealing with at that moment I just like to share those emotions with people like regardless of what it is you know if I'm tired so be it mmm I'm just going to say that I'm tired as [ __ ] right now what we talking about there now Ben there's a spot in the morning yeah I got here yeah 5 o'clock about 4 o'clock every morning really yeah and what time you go to bed um that night I went to bed a little late because I've having sex with my wife oh yeah sexual about 45 minutes is that solid that was a solid night jogo fart I need the last last night I put my some of the book but I neither ass is sucking a fart just like code for eating and eating ass that's all cuz you know back in the day they would always say oh you look so good I'll drink your bathwater yeah so it's like I do I just like to evolve slang to rise like it's the evolution of that I've been saying I have your [ __ ] for a while we're sucking [ __ ] no good though like it's like a bong hit like you do put your mouth back man if fogginess just suck it up a little don't inhale it crazy just yes enough I'll tell a girl I want to eat your [ __ ] you're so hot on your [ __ ] and I don't it's not a woman on earth at that beautiful no I don't care who I don't give it to the young days not even close no I'm not eating this [ __ ] and everything when Beyonce farts or takes a [ __ ] that it smells better probably not cause I think she got like a vegan diet but no vegan thought to be smelling real horrible you think yeah now I didn't girls I hate that it's so pretty that if you put the your tongue in her ass and this is like a little doodle curdle like you ain't gonna be mad maybe like he just put it off your tongue that happened to me [ __ ] my mouth yeah you know me disguise disgusted or II I was I because you know the [ __ ] is nice because it's got all the ridges the little veins they're like poking and emanating from the center and I sort of used those ridges to wipe off my tongue and get rid of that [ __ ] Colonel Obama not okay there you go it was like in front of the homie to which I thought I was coming for so if you let a girl know that that's like the ultimate Meg I'll give you ever read Neil's cross the game when you talk about negs mmm if you tell her like ah [ __ ] you got [ __ ] you got [ __ ] on yeah so I get in white glitter something I told ya little bit of toilet tissue back there and then she'll be all in her should we get a little insecure because I really but you never made your wife sucker fart out of your ass oh she never slept before she put it on back then she did put her tongue there then we put a finger back there and you're feeling that yeah that's why I say you got to marry any girl I put the finger - you gotta marry yes what I'm saying if I had that I'm putting the ring on it yeah yeah but you that's a selling point for you guys my girls always trying to finger my ass and I ain't having it she does that every sign of disrespect Oh a district so guys I tell God that all the time never be afraid to let it grow eat your ass because regardless of what happens in the relationship if y'all fall out and is bad you can always say well you ate my ass off and you can talk [ __ ] about you you got a little dick you ain't [ __ ] whatever you ate my ass was hung you got to be careful cuz like you had Amber Rose calling on Kanye saying oh I was putting fingers in your booty buh buh buh it works both ways yeah so the girls put fingers in your ass so when you say something about a pocket see if I'm out of line disrespectful oh yeah but I put my fingers in your ass though right but that's why you do you got to own your truth is because you don't want to have you know if there's embarrassing [ __ ] I don't want to have to live in the closet I want to be all out and open you know yeah it's just too hard to lie like if somebody because it comes up in conversation let me put a finger yes I'm like well yeah so I almost had an incident last night and I'm just going to call myself out for it this guy there's a video of me a few months ago on tour and I was just in the hotel room rolling blunt right just kicking it and little pump all of a sudden starts getting his dick sucked by this girl and I filmed myself passing the blunt to him while he's getting his dick sucked and he's 16 and I sent him the clip and then for some reason he sent it to worldstar his own clip and they posted it and I'm just like oh my god they're gonna get me so even if you're into the legacy of a minor I mean it's not like I had anything to do with the fact that he just started getting head from her but I'm thinking like people are going to be like him I don't pass the bun to a 16 year old I was getting don't even though that contributed to the legacy money I had that I had very helpful huh I had that shark had a party I think I was like 20 21 at the time and had a party and like I like all my little cousins and stuff from high school was there and like I had to alcohol so it was my party belief came I had to take responsibility for everything and that was one of the childhood contributed to the legacy of mine just for having giving them alcoholics and did you actually have to like fish face trial for this no I think I ended up getting like probation is something like that like something like something light or really really late yeah because they deleted that [ __ ] after like five minutes worldstar we're all so yeah what time is 16 I guess and he's gonna head I don't know but either way I started thinking about it there was that little Wayne documentary where I'm pretty sure he said that he lost his virginity with Birdman in a gangbang right I mean I thought you were gonna tell me a story about how you was backpacking in the blunt and he was getting the head from the ground and he let the girl hit the blunt did she hit in the path back to you home boys what's up he did oh my god I don't think I've seen it yeah I was in Boston me and my boy wax and I was gonna wax yeah I went back to the room I minded my business wax come knocking on my door with a couple chicks I'm like ah brother cuz I wanna I won I won [ __ ] nothing Boston my my business so I'm sleep in this girl's buckle with me [ __ ] with me something like I focus I let her suck my dick now waxes in the bathroom smoking a blunt with the girl and he was like you let me hit that you know and he wasn't even thinking I don't smoke right so he had the girl that he was trying to [ __ ] we was [ __ ] bring me to blunt so she bring me to blend I make the girl that's sucking my dick hit it it's happening about is that a girl smoking at all I don't know if it's broken to the 40-story yeah well because I had a video online where there's this porn chick Janice Griffin and where's Janice Griffith and we're someone going to blunt together a bunch of people to so many kids comes in like you just sucked 150 dicks off that blunt yeah I'm like if if that's what I got to do like I don't care if she was getting game banned during the other day we're smoking this blunt with risa and stop slut-shaming we're gonna reset the rules we're gonna you know forget about all that why do you trust a teef exactly right she's washed up now I got 150 dick just sitting in her mouth they're addictive especially as you still learn a tongue if she's like 150 dicks that day alright maybe maybe you need like at least like the glass piece imma bloody you got to stick that big a bit so you you [ __ ] law porn stars in your deck you never [ __ ] the porn star really why not I've never been in position to [ __ ] like really I figure that's just elevate alone in your life I mean listen I I moved to New York in 2006 I was doing radio with Wendy and then I was with Wendy from oh six 208 and then I went and did radio and Philly in like oh nine and I went back to South Carolina and I mean I've been doing the Breakfast Club for seven years but I just the past three years I've really had success you know what I'm saying like success to us I guess I can [ __ ] a porn star me I don't feel like I've had any real success in it I got that but I also live in Hollywood yeah like I'm not a waitress out there yeah but now I really have to interest because I'm yeah we caught you to call me seven years ago yeah absolutely but so what what changed with you that you just hit this wall we were like nope I'm going to be a family man be serious about that [ __ ] because you've been with this girl forever but then in a certain point what you decided to stop [ __ ] around um I just felt like whenever like you know we all pay attention to things in our lives like we know certain foods that we put in our body that cause us to feel a certain way or we know certain things we drinkers gonna have a certain reaction a little for me whenever Park Bom had talked about it yeah I would like for me whenever I was [ __ ] around with other chicks yeah and not doing it right by her just little hiccups would happen in my life like it just yeah things it like because my energy wasn't right because it's too much hard work but you're [ __ ] a girl on the side and you're going back home and you end up lying about not [ __ ] with the girl it's just bad energy six months like a condo advice - for everybody had it's not funny but it's different value because you have threesomes with this chick I don't look beautiful I got to sneak around yeah so this is like you feel like a piece of [ __ ] and I'm the tech person I can't lie yeah so it's like when I get cornered I'm like yes read it on your face yeah I did it okay that's why I'll tell my girl a [ __ ] straight up like you know I'm going on tour some [ __ ] might happen just I'm sorry but don't worry about it but I mean I don't know to what extent she doesn't worry about it but I don't know at a certain point it's like I just don't want to be that guy who lasts like run around I know dudes were amazing achieving like that's their best skill in life is that they're like a [ __ ] Russian spy who could get away with anything when it comes to [ __ ] [ __ ] on the side they've been married for 15 years the wife has no clue that they [ __ ] a new chick every other week well that's a thing it's not achieving that gets you in trouble with to getting caught you know I'm saying like yeah cheating never caused the divorce to getting caught I'm saying if you can cheat and not get caught you go yeah that's olive oil I'm not talented like that my god don't you think when you cheat on somebody kind of builds up this almost resentment to your partner that you might think they're doing something that they might not even be doing absolutely guilty conscience because you cannot you doing dirt that's other part of the part of bad energy you're doing dirt so even if you don't know she's doing anything you feel like she's doing something here's your got all you got all this negative energy in you so it's like for me matches it's just easier not to cheat and plus I'm sold I talked about this yesterday I got so much anxiety and I'm so paranoid alike like [ __ ] up everything I've worked so hard for right then I just would rather just do what I'm supposed to do I know as long as I'm doing what I'm supposed to do I'm fine I feel like now's the time to lay low I'm getting if you fell off yes then you may be more likely to do the [ __ ] [ __ ] like if you yeah I think I should do what in your mind what's the most realistic scenario that could happen in which you would [ __ ] up and just lose everything like it would be a Kathy Griffin moment like like you feel like everything is going great right now but you still have that thing in the bucket head you're like maybe B this is going to [ __ ] up maybe I'm going to be a [ __ ] loser in a couple years no at this point nothing i'ma tell you why I don't spend any money I save a lot of money number one in number two we just live in an era where it's so easy to create your own opportunity that's why the title of my book is opportunity to come to those who create it yeah we got platforms baby we got platform that we make money off of like you can't fire me from my podcast right you can't fire me from my my YouTube videos or whatever it is you can't fire me from social media like you know I'm going to still write books okay the publishing company don't want to [ __ ] with me our self-published at this point like I know how to I'm not a game work right so could you see some kind of scandal taking place that would [ __ ] it up so that you wouldn't be able to work with like corporate people or like you know where you want to be able to be with one power 105.1 I don't I couldn't really imagine it happening to you either yeah I never I was eyes doing something really [ __ ] yeah I wasn't drugging a bunch of woman in a raping no no I haven't killed anybody like no you know I'm not I don't move like I don't I don't have no skeleton that's why I just put everything out there I got I had a rape charge before you did a criminal sexual conduct even when you went to court for it oh yeah that was the same thing I was talking about with the party I had a I had a party with my had a party for my cousin his name is a Kinte Palma silly he's so [ __ ] silly no he's really silly I tell you I might tell you about why he's so silly later because I just found out some [ __ ] today with anyway he um he was graduating here I got a scholarship ironically to Penn State right and I had a party for him and I had a bunch of people invited over and everybody was drinking smoking having a good time and I talked about it in my book a couple my homeboys was was in the room with this young lady they told me they didn't [ __ ] what they was trying to and I remember even coming in the room telling them to get you know beat it like you know she's drunk whatever whatever so then I left to go get some weed or something and I get a call I got a girl within the house tearing everything up like she was kicking holes in the wall she kicked over the TV and I will call police right so I don't know if they called the police I think they did call the police somebody called the police the police came and when the police came I don't know if she was upset or she thought she was about to go to jail or something but she was just like yellow I got right to migration and then I found out about it the next day I never forget it at the next day of June 7 from the next day was like June 8th come on my homeboy died on that day scrap recipe to scrap and like 2 weeks later I went down to the police station that day cuz I pulled up in my hood my father's hood called kit field and all my cousin's was sitting outside and I pulled up on him and I'm like yo you heard about what happened last night I'm thinking about scrap you tried me was like years like yeah but you don't contain jail make him pay in jail and he was like yeah I'm like for what he's like because I heard I got raped last night and I'm like huh some college kid saying he not picking up his phone so I Drive right to the police station come I go to Dubai go to Penn State go to the police station sitting there with the police officer say look it was my party I take full responsibility for anything that may happen cause I know nobody got raped I got sexually assaulted whatever whatever she was like what do you know the girl was 16 and I'm like nope I didn't and then so she let me go and she was like thank you for the statement but we don't have anybody locked up by the way who my cousin's had locked him oh they have fun to do this on the book yeah yeah they lied to me about my cousin being locked up just because they were upset they didn't get invited to the party or maybe he was just [ __ ] with me just so you got a rape charge from that yeah they arrested me two weeks later for criminal sexual conduct with a minor how'd you beat it had to give blood had to do all I had to go through the whole thing so she was actually really trying to press charges yeah and she said that the people that were in the room with her kept saying it was Charlemagne like like I they were [ __ ] with her they was like relax you're Charlemagne really this was earlier it was like 2001 right I had just started doing radio I might have been on the radio for like a year and a half at the time and so it was just like I had to do all of that and then the charges got dropped they did it up dropping the charges altogether and they charged me with contributing to the links evil - for having all the drinks and stuff and for the party and everything well it's better than the right Church do it absolutely that's why I'm so um I don't want to say sympathetic cuz I don't know if that would be the right word but whenever I hear about guys having little charges I'm not I don't just genre it's a yeah he did it well so how does that make you feel yeah when you see something like with the double XL cover this year so xxx was was on and even though he's currently in the middle of like he's going to have to face trial for you know charges of battering a woman or whatever famous duck didn't make the cover and you said that they actually specifically said that it was because he there was a video of him beating up his ex-girlfriend after from double-xl said it was because of that video how do you feel about that because both as well but with the next one it's like okay there's the video with the x1 it's like it seems to be a more serious accusation but there's no actual video I respected with the ex situation because we we don't know exactly what happened it is hearsay and I feel like that's how we all should be when we hear about something I don't I don't feel like the court of public opinion should keep you from anything nothing like that's the problem nowadays the court of public opinion is describing people more so than even the court of law you know I mean so we don't know what happened with extension yet yeah you know so it's like yeah that is good I don't don't don't make don't harm his career yet right let him go to the process you know get a fair trial and all that exit stuff and if he's found guilty or we get more information that lets us know he really did do it then we punish him for the record Florida's really [ __ ] up jail system too like they put people do it down this oh by the way to create a few hundred times I read you on that but also the craziest people in America are from the Bronx and all the floor the Bronson all the floor to got the most craziest [ __ ] up people in where I'm from the Bronx so I can agree with that Oh [ __ ] God why is that even brought the Bronx is like the refuge for all the most [ __ ] up people in New York somehow they all just flood north to there yeah the Bronx is the place that they will they don't want to gentrify right like like but it is going to fine yeah but I think it is gentrifying but I think you got to euthanize everybody there for us like is it yeah sure no very crazy kind of like 20-30 years back watch the local news in New York why you're here and Indian guarantee you for the first lead stories are from the Bronx like the guy well you said you moved here in 2003 cuz I'm 10 okay I got in six I left 2010 I moved here 2003 really yeah it's a story and I was splitting a room yeah with this Chinese kid and we're paying 150 bucks each good old days we're all sleeping in a bunk bed yeah it was terrible owes the Crimea's place and the other room was like just this other dude that we knew and I remember we had a [ __ ] he had a TV in his room or no in our room and and one day he wired it up because he was [ __ ] this girl and he wired it so that there was like a closed feed so that we could see it on the TV and he had the remote so right before I started [ __ ] he just goes out in the hall and presses the button so like we didn't know we were gonna see it and all of a sudden we're just watching our friend [ __ ] from camera a sudden his right was weird that's high like you know I'd like I'm admission is I was a remember one time I to be [ __ ] his chicken her they had like a apartment to where they shared a bathroom so it was her and her sister and like if you open both bathroom doors like you could look directly at her sisters or my sister could look directly in our room so I had to be like [ __ ] the [ __ ] out of her sister so much that like sometimes he'd opened the door looking yeah and be looking turned on yeah you guys to turn me on to this is 0y yeah yeah it's not right I think that's a big part of it like you kind of figure out what you're really into and you're really drunk like me and my girl will be really drunk and then I'll realize in the morning that we had like FaceTime some porn shake that we know and like she was like watching us might hang out with us on FaceTime we were [ __ ] her some [ __ ] and I'm like damn like that's what I chose to do blackout drunk at five o'clock in the morning that means that that there's like something very real about that to me and I get that that was like because if you're [ __ ] to go that you really think is hot and then like somebody else was like an impartial observer and they thought it was hot too it's kind of like a second opinion you get a lot of point was he had well I was in Hollywood is pulling back I brought him to his first porn party on the valley really brought me to his sons in on trail back how many porn stars you [ __ ] me how many points I was out [ __ ] I got them out here not crazy not a crazy amount I'll I'm more song like the hipster white girl in Williamsburg chilling we might go to sweet chick yeah get some whiskey cheese's at the bar you film me I'm not really into the porno chicks but I got some porno homegirls and shout out to them no cam girls it's all a new way the cam girls are heavier yeah because it's not like a real porn industry I hear Andrew the girls who like sit in front of the camera and take the clothes off for money or whatever not even [ __ ] now it's all the project is not yet naked on on camera and people's paying them from all around the world that sounds like okay your girl is like that's not my girl makes money it's got private snapchat yeah I told my wife does that say I really love you in the reason I know I really love you is because bangbros hit me up on Twitter and they was like come see us when you're in Miami because I was on the air talking about bangbros and everybody in the room was like BAM Bros wasn't real and I was like I don't believe that isn't real absolutely had to be real like I I used to watch bang Rosa seriously so the gang busting [ __ ] is like the one that's primarily not real yeah that really yeah because they're like dropping the girl off in the middle of the [ __ ] desert and [ __ ] like everybody would I used to roll up in random neighborhood yeah that's better girl and be like yo hitting the car the neighbor just [ __ ] right so they hit me up on Twitter it was like come see us when you're in Miami it comes to Israel I said you know how much of a fantasy of mine at it but just be in vain gross right I wouldn't want to be I wouldn't want to [ __ ] and have it come out but just to be in this yeah yeah yeah you can't do that your girlfriend withstanding the way of that are your wife yes you probably would I don't [ __ ] that don't care what your career is the support your career you wanna go out there do what you got to do I don't blame ya I get it my girl told me that she has to tell herself all the time like it's for the lulz it's for the laws like when I'm saying something super [ __ ] up in the black ass that she's listening to she she's like I have to just remind myself because I've been told I'm at times I'm like I hate when I'm interviewing a rapper and he comes through and I'm trying to ask him about some groupie [ __ ] her about girls and stuff and he's like nah not our girl and I know he's lying I was asked I'm like okay your girl should want you to lie you should want you to exaggerate because when you go to do an interview that's almost as important as you making a song of course you're lying in your songs right like every rapper has to line their song so yeah I don't like that though yeah yeah I want you to reality all but be honest in your music and I want you to be honest when you're doing invites like I don't like characters like I said a long time ago that's one reason I'm not afraid to grow in of all because I don't become a caricature of myself cause it's easy to do that like [ __ ] can see you interview you do and like they're like oh you know I like the way you talk to Konya well you made little momma cry which I didn't do and I mean that's all this pride right are you gonna say you didn't make her cut it that was Anjali water for mother god bless today and that's what made her cry mater so she didn't cry because like you we're kind of pointing out what a loser she was okay I don't know I hope that's got to be a low point in my New York City hip hop history there her getting on stage right yeah I'm glad you said there because everybody gives me a hard time for that now because you know on the internet nothing died right there like oh you made a little mama cry from that was seven years ago but people forget where little mama was seven years ago right like she was a punchline yeah she jumped on stage with Alicia Keys in the end well mama was a lot of things ever she was the original mean yeah like she's in fact she's had more means before that but her crossing her arms was the original meme where that people would photoshop and putting different you know pictures and something like that so people forget that and they're like I was still on that wave when little mama came to the breakfast club he was clowning her for that yeah you know but you had I mean how could you know you'd be the most dishonest [ __ ] radio host on earth if you didn't point out how funny that [ __ ] was Oh hilarious it was the best I was hilarious Troy I should have got up there right after her and also did the same exact pose that was I think that would have been New York is [ __ ] did you Troy I've interview that you did here but recently yeah I've kind of like blocked him out like just you know because you go through that phase of like hate watching a guy like him I'm not really trying to hate watch him anymore I'm trying to just like kind of put him out of my mind listen what you just said right just now is very real and we could uh we could get rid of a lot of trolls if we did that more but for whatever reason we tend to gravitate towards the things that we hate but that's been like that like Howard Stern made a whole career off it I remember they said how it turns ratings was so high because you listen to them because you love and you listen cuz you hate them if you really hate something you'll tune it out and ignore it thank you we feed these trolls we feed the Tommy lower Tommy Lorenz and the Milo yappa with a reason or even Donald Trump Donald Trump like ultimate rolling house most successful troll of all time all talking about every [ __ ] day whether you get why not my house it doesn't matter you holdin out for that now the odds aren't very good from whatever it I mean I don't to be able to I don't give a [ __ ] I just like having them all tangled up having to deal with all this other [ __ ] so he can't actually like put his time into his own policies and like what he wants to do in office but a scare I love knowing that he feels stifled and that he feels like he's made it to the number one position and he still can't do any of the things he wants to do but we're acting like the president is in control anyway yeah presidents just assembled you president took the puppets people that are pulling the strings like I you go out there and deal with all that [ __ ] and we'll be back here doing whatever the [ __ ] we do show the country keep going or we implement the policies we want to implement you just go out there and be the symbol keep everybody just crazy while we over here you know reinstating slavery do you think Tommy Lauren is like genuine or do you think that she's playing until I can exaggerated right-wing character because she knows that's more saleable to like beavis mega hardcore Republican because then after after the fact it comes out that oh she's actually pro-choice oh she's not opposed to gay marriage so like these are things that are supposed to endear her to us as people who are consider ourselves on the left but now but then when that comes out you know that that kind of proves that maybe her as a person is a little bit more real a little bit more in depth she's definitely a I service you think yeah I remember when you're hanging out with her in private was it yeah I met it at one time and that's actually one of the conversations we had I said that to her verbatim I said you know if this isn't really you it's gonna crash and burn yes you know saying like I'll have no problem with anybody having an opinion I don't care how crazy I may view their opinion if I agree with them and not III respect everybody's right to an opinion I respect free speech but it has to really be you because really you are respected if you're doing it just to make money are you doing it because it's bringing you attention I don't [ __ ] with that and she just coined in on what her listeners matter because if you go watch old videos one and she coined in and in because they don't want to hear her even if she was like opposed to a lot of the [ __ ] Trump was doing she knows her audience doesn't want to hear that that if she's gonna criticize trumpet has to be very brief very quick because her audience wants her to be the hot little blonde chick who supports Trump and and will tell them what they want to hear yes if you go watch old videos of her she was liberal as [ __ ] really right you know I'm saying like her videos from college liberal as [ __ ] but she did one video where she went at Barack Obama and that's what blew her up so got her on TMZ and everything before so once you realized that she was like oh my latching onto this and I got turned on to her because after Beyonce had her Super Bowl performance she went in on beyond and you know Twitter blew her up like Twitter went in on her many when she was doing I don't know if she knew she was going in that moment I think that's when I think at that time black Twitter didn't understand their power and I don't think she understood the power black Twitter and it goes back to what we were just talking about when when you give something like that energy you're feeding that troll you're making it bigger now that we just ignored her I wouldn't never I wouldn't even know who she was and nobody else wouldn't know when she was you know I'm saying so I think that you know black Twitter just we lifted her up would hate and didn't even realize it you know what I'm saying and it's like now if you notice we don't react to her as much anymore the hype is not the hype is died down so being that we don't react to her as much as you more then her her her her star has started to drop a lot but she could light [ __ ] up right now she only never said like she could say one thing and she could be on the lips of every [ __ ] personally yeah but she doesn't seems like she's a little bit more reasonable with it don't go higher than oh she's going harder we just saw her yesterday I saw how a male it was the video above because she doesn't from like our houses something that but you don't see not with the blades normal she still gets views but it's just like nobody really cares yeah like the people that are listening that I when I go out I research stuff like this I was looking at our Facebook page and people I saw talking leaving comments when people are supporting her so the people who don't like her are the ones are the loudest and would [ __ ] really blow her [ __ ] up cuz you guys think it goes backward after five hours turn you got people that like you some people hate you when you got both of them coming at you at the same time or speaking up to you at the same time especially on social media it just create this big firestorm well now you see the people that hate her aren't really talking about her like that so that's why the star has started the fall of luck but that's weird because the main accusation that they give you is that you're like giving her a platform and now they're saying the same thing about megyn kelly doing this interview with Alex Jones why are you giving a platform to somebody who denied that the Sandy Hook massacre happened said it was a hoax and all this stuff so what's your response to that when people say that you're given a platform to somebody who's a Nazi or a racist or whatever think of the dumbest logic in the world and the reason I think of the dumbest dumbest logic in the world is because just because you don't know about something doesn't mean it wasn't already popular Tommy Lauren had hundreds of millions of you right on Facebook before I ever heard about her before Trevor Noah even bought her on our show you know what I'm saying so it's just like they already have platforms what you can do is use your platform to combat some of those false narratives like when I gave her donkey today for what she said about Beyonce and then they invited me to come on our show I was like absolutely because number one I wanted to combat her narrative about the Black Panthers I want to compare our narrative about Beyonce I want to compare her narrative about jay-z Alex Jones I don't even know if I would entertain that that's what I'm saying because there's a certain level right a certain level Tommy's a little different Alex I don't know if I would entertain even though I have seen on a minute to lose track on on Alex's show but it was just more of Alex interviewing him like Alex this [ __ ] is so like crazy that it's like why even give that [ __ ] any energy like the Sandy Hook massacre was fake no really so you're telling me but they have to those families who lost but that's I know and that is such like a shining example of somebody who said something that's so bad that you you kind of thought that says scene [ __ ] up to give him a platform where's like time in Iran it's like we could totally disagree with like most of what she says yeah yeah but it's still within the realm of like mainstream stuff that probably a lot of people would say the thing without was Jones too though is that like he's getting this weird amount of respect from the president who's like treating him as if he actually has like a respectable position that he's coming from so it's almost like isn't it kind of Megyn Kelly's job as a reporter to expose him in a certain way or like at least give him an opportunity to tell people what he really thinks about something I'm not mad at it I wouldn't do it but I'm not mad that megyn kelly is doing it you know I'm saying especially if she's challenging him telling them how crazy he sounds and how do you explain all of these dead kids and like because it's insulting you know I mean to the family like yeah the families of Sandy Hook absolutely wish it wasn't real you know what I'm saying they absolutely wish it was a hoax oh it is insulting to the family like I said it Megyn Kelly's bringing them on the challenge his rhetoric or challenge the [ __ ] he's spewing I'm not mad at that I wouldn't do it though yeah I draw the line at guys like and I gotta Jenna like I don't see the reason I got the fantasy [ __ ] I got I don't even like that when it comes to black people right I don't like conspiracy you got to give me something else man just give me something to stand on don't give me what you feel you believe or something you saw on YouTube like I don't I don't like that [ __ ] I'm like WorldStarHipHop conspiracy theories I don't feel like they have any place in the mainstream keep that [ __ ] online when you're home at what 1:00 o'clock in the morning on a Saturday and it's nothing on Netflix you just scour and YouTube looking at these people laughing like let's just [ __ ] wow that was crazy what do you get that from yeah another interesting one too is the Charlie this isn't even now you have a Charles Barkley versus Richard Spencer but they have like a whole long interview series coming out and Richard Spencer is like a real-deal white supremacist like tommy'll around would never say that about herself we could all say she's racist whatever but he's a real like he says I'm a white supremacist so that's like and him debating Charles Barkley though it's kind of interesting to me because it's like do you think Charles Barkley is necessarily like is he going to be able to give him a good fight debate was versus Spencer is a really smart guy like regardless of what his opinions are he's a good debater i'ma tell you something man and I said this about Richard Spencer before uh I don't agree with I put it like this the way Richard Spencer feels about white people is how I feel about my blackness I'm proud to be black I think it's a privilege to be black I think were the best I mean that's that's that's not enough but I'm not trying to impress anybody right by saying that I'm not trying to marginalize anybody by saying that like I'm not saying I feel like we're the best and y'all need to bow down us I mean it's like I'm reppin my team let me cowboy the title top one day one in 20 years but I'm feeling like I still think they the best team in the league but are you only able to say that because you're kind of on the dog team and like white people if I were to say like hell yeah I'm proud of being white it just it has a totally different ring to it right yes I get it under yeah but not not to me like I say what I see when I see Richard Spencer talk and how he feels about being white I'm like well I feel the exact same way about being black I just don't want to oppress anyone right I just don't want to marginalize anybody I'm not prejudiced I'm not discriminating I don't feel like anybody's beneath me I don't feel like people are inferior like what me me I don't see the problem of white supremacy and white superiority it it makes you feel like everybody else is period right right I don't feel like that I just think that I'm great because I'm black and at that you know that's definitely how you came into the music game and the industry doing the interviews and people being kind of like I've seen people like the for example the fragile star and the sticky fingers kind that they came to you with this animosity mist in the chest and it built up and they're angry at you and it's almost like you're just being real you just saying stuff that's out there that's on the table they're online so it's like are they are do you feel like they're taking their anger out on their own insecurities to you yeah I think it's a the funny thing with that situation before sticky and Frederic came up stinkies assistant with tweeting things that like sticky was saying sticky would be like yelled Charlemagne is what I would be if I was doing radio so left a lot of rappers fella well yeah in fragile I mean sticky even told me that like even half at interviews like I [ __ ] with what you do I don't know what fair I think I I think either they were in character which I'm cool with because I grew up on I write I like the mad face I like to yell at in this vid by with that I guess this is what I expect from onyx interview right I'm cool with that if it was just in character or he was just waiting for me the the quote-unquote flex on him so he was just ready right you know cuz like you can't possibly be mad at me over something that you said like you said you got head from brandy and so I born thought about individual calling okay yeah I bought it up into interviewer he went crazy no that's one example but there's a ton of people that I feel like kind of when they went up to Breakfast Club had this boiled up anger because they almost knew the type of person you were you brash you're direct you're ready for the show ready for now anytime and I mean a lot of them they've heard me which I love a lot of them have heard me to say things about them right and that's what I like because I don't listen man I don't move maliciously I'm never saying anything to like be disrespectful right I want to be malicious like I'm just a fan at the end of the day and I'm a cultural critic so if you ask me my picture about something i'ma give you a lot of things if you have to be my opinion about somebody or they're there are time give my honest answer so I think a lot of artists know that and even they don't like what I said they know I'm not purposely being disrespect they have no problem coming to combat it they have no problem coming to debate me you gotta respect it absolutely so I think even if you come in there upset you still want to have the conversation which not with John which I'm fine have it so you're sitting there and you start talking about how Mercedes formerly of no-limit had a really nice ass and then master P who's a very intimidating individual both on like a business side on us you know he's gives off an aura that's kind of like oh like I could if I could have you gone tomorrow if I felt like it he took issue with you saying that she had a fat ass did what was your feeling as he started to call you out on that because you you were coming at him on some sorta you know a little bit of a shop jog hey let's talk about girls that you previously were associated with and then he came back at you like you were in [ __ ] church like no we don't talk about women like that I mean Mercedes that that was an iconic album cover look at that album cover that named I was rearing right there's a young lady bent over call and she did have a nice bed yes occifer I'm just thinking you know I'm like yeah whatever happened to Mercedes have a fat would I get coffee Logie yeah you know me and Matt speak got me by about 15 years so it's just like he checked me mmm I can't be mad at the OG for checking me like it wasn't even on some like I'm afraid of Master P [ __ ] this is somebody who first of all to me is a down south legend a down south old G somebody who just from afar you learn business from you know to me I remember seeing him on the Forbes list and being so inspired because this is a guy from the South the st. you know Diddy or somebody from unit somebody that can damn near relate to him so he checked me I can't be mad at him checking me I don't know what his relationship is with that woman for all I know that could been his niece hahaha cousin sister I don't know what his relationship was with that woman so I don't know how out of turn I was being and if you listen to a masterpiece same as he said I respect you so you got to respect me right he was like I wouldn't say that about somebody that you was with close with a rock to it so don't don't don't disrespect me like that I gotta eat that you know saying I'm [ __ ] do go back a form of Master P oh yeah now yes like he told me how he felt about something and I gotta respect it my god I just had that's that's to me being a manatee today's I remember one time did he call me and um did he call me because I gave so when did he calls you is it straight up like your phone says did he is calling you or I don't know he hits up your assistant or something this is early on this was like 2012 I never the last train of parity mout and I that matter go terrible out and I was I gave I gave that album donkey today and I was saying that it was shake weight music and I was like Chris Bosh warms up to it like I'll shake with a shake yeah yeah yeah shake with you but I was shaking I was relaxing the album right and um I remember did he was retweeting people saying I was gonna be fired this is how I knew I was I was in his family I got him right and I didn't mean to do it I just was giving my honest opinion so then I remember hitting my man Shawn prayers and I was like oh somebody retweeting people saying I'm a Oh before that then he came to the station by the way did he was doing promos this is the data album came out so I gave him donkey so did he was just in the building doing a promo and it was like you gotta box back they made me go out the back door and everything right this [ __ ] right did he came up here raising hell like I want him off the air blase blase and that luckily my program director at the time Cadillac Jackie was like no I'm not firing him forgiving him for him giving his opinion whatever so that night when I call Shawn Pratt I'm looking at all the retweets did he call me and he had an honest conversation it's not you can you can google it because he called the radio station the next day to talk about the conversation we had the night before and he was just talking about things I have said about him historically all the way back to when Kathy was on my morning show in Philadelphia and I bought her at a very bad time they bought her when her nude pictures that just came out she had just did 106 & Park and she's saying terribly and I just had to be honest with her like he knows they're Johnny look like he needed a little rejuvenation yeah yeah you're singing all 106 was terrible we sort of vagina rejuvenation thought yeah that's not even good with that what what do you mean by that the labia was hanging all crazy little just a little rope that's a strange thing to say to a girl ha ha ha yeah might not probably be in an [ __ ] I'm done I wouldn't even pay enough attention to her I gotta watch that one there so Jody was just telling me like imagine if somebody would coming out you know a girl you love like that just before he was like really really publicly [ __ ] very good you know I couldn't do number respected as a man like you're you right but yeah I'm still wet right you know I'm thinking that's what to cut the competition between me disrespecting Cassidy and me saying his albums wack I totally feel you on the Cathy thing Diddy you don't got to worry about that no more that's your girl I get it I apologize without even if I apologize but I get it I respect that and you're absolutely right but this album is why he's like not not not now Unocal touch my arms like like that he's only three songs on there that's really hot do you really well I was going to say do you feel a level of compassion for him though because he's a guy who's out here spending millions of dollars working on album for six months or a year or whatever and comes out and you know you what you listen to it once maybe twice and you're just like nauseous I'll be able to take an opinion yeah yeah like do you feel like this is this is something that I've been feeling like for a while do you feel like the super sensitivity of the black community not only in hip-hop but just all throughout us kind of holds us back from being able to move forward because in somebody stepping on my toes at a show or through Twitter could make me get fired up but somebody else might not look at it that way and take the more calm now brother Wesley Mohammed salute the brother was we've just had him on over here oh we just had we I'm on The Breakfast Club and he said that it comes a point in time where black people have to stop being prey yeah meaning that we just have to stop playing the victim like we have been victims we love playing the victim know and mostly but I don't know we love playing it as opposed to we love reacting to it you know saying like we're always like like I hit the example he gave was where we go to we go to white people and say black lives matter we go to why people say hands up don't shoot I was go to white people say respect us and what he basically was saying was after while I [ __ ] that you got to stop being a predator to you do harm to me I got to do harm back to you [ __ ] begging for your respect yeah you laughter that's what he said so I think it's I think it's something to that you know what I mean I think it's definitely something to that um but there's a fine line between like informing young people or people in general but the fact like yeah you have been victimized in some ways by society and society has been constructed in a way that's unfair to you based on your history and your race but there's a fine line between but telling people about that and then giving people sort of a victim mentality to go through life with which it doesn't help you get through life if you are observing the world as in like hey buddies this [ __ ] ain't fair like it's definitely not fair regardless of race if you were born poor or it's not fair if you get you want a bad area it's not fair you can't control you know a lot of the circumstances that you were born into but you can control whether or not you will be reduced by them you know you can control whether not generally they in that circumstance you know what I'm saying like I just can't buy into the whole concept of the white man told me that I can't buy into the whole concept with a white man got his foot on my neck I'm fully aware of everything that you know this country has done to a lot of communities you know me black you know gave everything but at the end of the day I still gotta wake up in the morning I still gotta keep it keep it moving you know I mean like I'm on some outcast goody mob [ __ ] you got to get up get out and get something so many days of your life pass by you got to get up get out and get some of your time you know how like that was my mentality I ain't I've never had the mentality of war with me I just haven't I'm gonna [ __ ] what it was and I guess because I'm uh I hold myself accountable and what I mean by that is like I definitely believe in the serenity prayer which is grant me to you know the god grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change you know courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference so I'm fully aware of everything that has been against us and historically what I'm from Moncks Corner South Carolina I'm either gonna stay on this dirt road my whole life or I'm not that's what I'm either gonna try to realize my full potential as a black man on this planet or I'm not I'm either going to go out there like like I got to be my fake get up get out and get something or I'm not like you make choices in life I don't know [ __ ] what your circumstances you make choices in life and I just made the choice to be greater than my circumstances that's a first response an apple [ __ ] but Davos and by the way that's for anybody by the way that's the shot I have all the resources model and afterload I know that's what you're talking about because that's the subtitle to your book yeah opportunity to come to those who create it I mean I look at you know Gary Vaynerchuk always said there's nothing like dude I love guy that's my man we did a weed carrots so [ __ ] you such a [ __ ] house look we did a pop-up shop a gorilla he text me like like like he's like yo next week we just gonna pull up somewhere and just give away [ __ ] okay yeah and I'm like word like what about kind of rich guy yeah he's I was gonna give away [ __ ] he was like how many so you got books see yeah I got like doing books in the garage nice I got like yeah like four or five hundred bucks in the garage he was like I got it he said stay tuned so he texted me the day before he's like yo um this woman go do that Washington Square Park he literally sister sweet out he posted it at 8:45 I posted a 45 we're gonna meet us 9:30 who's like 400 kids 100 really he's all right this right there why NYU and New York's crazy I always forget outrage in New York is Manor Park but it felt so cool around that stuff I wish I was that bad I don't even know what his reasoning for doing it and Gary so dope I like I like people I just volunteer information because they don't have to right guy hit me up and guy was like yo congrats on success for your book I love to see you hustling me on in New York Times bestsellers list seven eight weeks in row he was like but you got to get a people song like what do you mean he was like you know you you're constantly promoting which is cool after a while it gets redundant he's like now you got to just give back Dugan I'm gonna give give give books away do something for the people like I'm gonna do something he's a get on Instagram and do something for somebody right now and I'm like okay I get that I understand that that that logic you know I mean so we went out there and calls those people to come and we just gave way both guy gave away t-shirts and pillows and [ __ ] but I'm saying all that to say regardless of who you are you have to make things happen for yourself right I don't give a [ __ ] if you a white guy who's born into money music gonna be that rich spoiled kid who lives off his parents level are you going to actually get up and try to call your own land you see that all the time if you're an entertainment or in Hollywood or anything like that you constantly are seeing kids who are richest [ __ ] their parents are crazy successful like is a kid whose dad is the biggest hustle you ever met in your whole life and then the kid is just straight-up like off his hands on the couch he's not much [ __ ] yeah listen Donald Trump is a great example mmm I mean everybody talked about how Donald Trump's father gave him a loan of a million dollars Donald Trump's I didn't get you small of a million dollars but a Trump flipped that in the billions hundreds of million it's not an easy task yeah in home saying like he he was born it was some nepotism and you know he was able to get a million dollar loan but just because you get a million dollars don't mean that you can slip it to even two nonetheless two hundred million or billion whatever it was right supposin it like you got to get up get out and get something like you just have to hmm okay so I was thinking about this I've always had like a rule in my head where I was like you know what I don't wanna like as the podcast started to get bigger and like more people paying attention to it I was like you know it's so easy to make fun of artists and I feel like it's kind of okay for me to make fun of a Drake or a Meek Mill because they're so big they're not going to fail on account of me having something to say but I never wanted to be the kind of I wanted to be an advocate for smaller artists rather than be someone who's critiquing them publicly and talking [ __ ] about them and stuff and I always thought that was a pretty good policy to have them the double XL cover comes out and all I said was I didn't know who the girl was Kamiya missiles animus they were mad as [ __ ] about me saying that I don't even know who she was but so how do you feel about that in terms of because it would be so easy for me to could take the [ __ ] out of like new artists and just say like look this dude's trash his voice is terrible he's got no flow blah blah blah that'd be so easy but how do you separate in your head because some people deserve like Diddy comes on you can say your album sucks it's fine but if you've got some kid 10,000 followers you don't really want to be like you should sucks because it's just kind of cruel right I love that question because the old guy get I think about that right like people always especially not people like Charlemagne even got soft you know you don't got sophomore artist I'm not not that I got soft it's that my mindset is exactly what you're saying right now I'm like these are kids you know I'm saying like a lot of these kids that I meet now they've been listening to me for a long time that makes a Philly even weirder yes that they respect you they respect me that off exactly in there in there kids like the I came up in the arrow the people I was climbing on my age now right you know what I'm saying like I was I was clowning on him so we were peers now I'm looking at these kids am I gonna have to say young brother trying to make a living like I can't call a little yachty wack he's a kid I'm not supposed to be in the little yadi he's 19 years old and if you were 25 do you think you would be more comfortable saying that Yahoo is like if you thought it was like and because you're closer you like when you're 25 you still feel like the music at 18 or 19 year old making should appeal to you where is that your age are a little bit more like alright the kids will have different taste than what I grew up with my critique of them is different now my critique of them is you don't gotta rap about all that drug use my brother you know I'm saying like man what happened to us being hustlers not everybody want to be fiends you can say whatever you want about yachty but he's a [ __ ] good example to kids he's a good role model the no drugs no violence for the most part is this man what does the grief like that I don't look to him another yeah he doesn't talk about drugs or violence that's great you know so so for me that's all it's really about if I kill these are kids and they are trying to make a living they are trying to make a way as long as they're not doing anything and I think it's detrimental to the community meaning rapping about so much drugs I like that I'm cool and even the ones that I like somebody like 21 Savage right I like 21 7 I grew up I grew up from in the south I'm from South Carolina so I grew up on I like three 6 mafia crime mob I like guys like 21 savvy yeah and when we interviewed him I just knew he was authentic mmm you know what I'm saying and not only was he authentic he was actually he's trying to make a change he understands where he was he understands what he used to do he understands he doesn't want to be that guy anymore you don't want to be that street do from Atlanta he wants to grow he wants to evolve I respected that so when I see that I'm like yo you got to get these little kids a chance you know why cuz I was like that you read my book I was that little savage [ __ ] I was one carried unwinking dizzy Van Winkle and my dude was out here selling dope and [ __ ] all the chicks like I was that guy you got to give people a chance to grow you got to give people a chance to evolve and I just think that me being older when I'm dealing with these younger artists that's something that I see like it would be so easy when Kodak black comes to The Breakfast Club the clown the funnel coat because he's sitting there with a ski mask on but I understand that rebellious energy of the youth again you know I mean it is probably this guy went from the streets of Florida to making hundreds of thousands of dollars now I don't know what could be possibly going on through his head I got to like I like the changes it's weird for me and I'm thirty plus so that Dec that whole change of being somebody that people know and getting attention and getting money like it's weird for me so I can only imagine what it is for this young kid but do you see yourself in some way right or incorrect absolutely yeah what all questions because they're at a point that you basically were at like are they a couple years before before they were successful they were in the exact point that you were at that you managed to be with radio and they did it by rapping right absolutely not question I mean I never was that popping it at twenty something like they are and I didn't have the money at twenty summers that's a scary thing because I think we both had the same feeling it's like oh we're into our 30s and now we're successful you're kind of ready to handle it yes if I had got rich at 19 I'd be I've been doing radio in a scheming I'm going by the way it's so funny that we saying it for decades in the breast club January of this year 2017 somebody put up a post a video of like September of 2016 I'm in the [ __ ] studio with a white ski mask on that said Wall Street on and you already forgot about it I forgot the whole show at eBay so Matt is about 120 something I'd have been [ __ ] walking around in that [ __ ] so so I can't like what you said is a great point I don't not the you know young artists I'm not here for that right I'm not suppressible I'm not supposed to be into what they're into if I'm in the one of these young artists I'm actually surprised right and that's what makes me feel like oh this guy got scented mmm because I like him and I you it shouldn't transcend to me but when I had young Kodak Kodak reminds me of young Trick Daddy hmm it just does you know what I'm saying like 21 Savage reminds me of like the Gucci Mane Lane like I like I like that kind of [ __ ] but a lot of these people were hating on 21a Kodak are the same types of people that never had an appreciation for Trick Daddy and never never gave Gucci the respect that he really deserved because he was country because you how to draw you know those are the guys that boot outcasts at the source Awards exactly 40 plus year old New Yorkers would get jean shorts on and timberland boots it is 100 degrees out [ __ ] side walking around with razor blades under their tongue like that's it like they got to chew sticks are you happy about Joe Budden like having this newfound prominence because he's kind of like the definitive character like of that guy like like all the memes about wearing Tim's in the shower and everything with the Yankee fitted like that's dough bud and he's basically regardless of being New Jersey I think he's risen into that that's his role now he's like a wrestler that is that guy I love a love I love with Joe Budden academics are doing what every day scrub I um I feel like few problem with that is I don't I don't want to be I don't want to be a cultural Authority mm-hmm I don't want I wanna be a fan right I got as long as you keep that perspective of being a fan it's great because I'm not here to tell you what's wack and what you're doing is wrong because all Joe's doing it Joe's opinions are based off what he's used to that's not you're not being open-minded you're not being objective I think when you come from the south like I come from like I'm from South Carolina we didn't have no music of ours when I was growing up like we had a couple others later on like the Carolina pathfinders we didn't have anything from that state South Carolina that I could say is this is our sound I used to listen to everything I had to listen to down south [ __ ] I have to listen to nor should I used to listen to West Coast [ __ ] if it was dope hip-hop I would [ __ ] with it I think Joe is one of those guys who's East Coast hip-hop centric period and he may appreciate some other things we don't really necessarily like it so that that reflects like you don't you don't get these guys that's on the double XL freshmen listen I don't get him you know I'm saying you don't get a little yachty I'm holding on for dear let him there so he could kind of give that opposite side of the spectrum and they could play off that it's not a good enough balance though and I [ __ ] with academics 100% but academics don't have not a fair fight or I got a fair fight academics don't have the yeah you don't know we go no you don't have no industry experience arts talking about like label like album rollouts and being in the studio and all that right and you just immediately kind of feel bad for academics but that's also me having some level of music industry knowledge now to a kid at home maybe they just straight-up considered Joe Budden the villain and they like academics because academics was more relatable to them because he is like a guy looking in and afterwards and the other thing with these young kids they don't give a [ __ ] if you really know she than that right so the acted academic they don't know [ __ ] they don't they don't know about album rollout that [ __ ] just happened exactly so it shows it things like I literally sometimes I one of my favorite pastimes is going on YouTube and listening to people who do these long YouTube rants and a lot of times like especially when they're about me and I'm watching them and I'm like you don't know the [ __ ] top yeah like this like none of this is true at all but he came to this all hour-long conclusion and people are in the comments talking about it and they really believe this [ __ ] so it's like they don't you don't have to have any real credentials you'll have to have any real information all you need is a [ __ ] opinion cuz people will believe what they want to believe anyways and then you don't want to acknowledge it because if you acknowledge it it makes it more true right I do sometimes it's funny like I saw one video uh but if you were to tweet the link to a video that was all lies about you and just say hey this is all [ __ ] yeah boom he's getting hella views from it yeah yeah I'm not doing that I'm not doing that but I I have a like like I did Joe Bugner podcast a few weeks ago and right before that everybody was on this thing like Charlemagne is using the 48 laws of power to sabotage every day struggle there's I think I saw that somewhere else and I'm like really not though not even not even close like where our radios yeah a terrestrial radio show that happens to record our videos and put them online every day struggle is an online show for I guess to is not even the same league two different entities totally right and plus their main focus is hip-hop all they talk is hip-hop it pop up we don't do that on nervous Club we talk about we talk sports we talk politics we bring an array of different dester like actors coming everybody like it's a bronze dr. eyes like something whenever they struggled in life but okay the thing the similarity is that you have always said and it's a very good point that like you know you guys win because wreckless club manages to stay at the very center of the conversation and you guys are always helped to define what that conversation is going to be every day and that's the one main thing that I've seen is everyday struggle is that that's the first time I've seen a new show come out and be like they are directly trying to be the center of the conversation every day in a lot of the same way that you guys are and I'm not saying you should you should feel threatened by that but it's very interesting because I haven't seen anybody else really kind of come forth at that thing but I love it yeah because it makes the league better like the more players you have it makes the league better like it's Breakfast Club its way it's big boy it's Angie Martinez you got one - you got the dupatta like I love no jumper when taxed on one was home these is the marrow sorry kid fury and criticizing - Bill Simmons I'm listening to laughs well I'm listening to so much content I love all these different voices and in hip-hop we need more platforms you don't have one or six I'm talking normal you'll have no yo MTV raps who's breaking into artists I think your [ __ ] popping Adam cuz but that's like the thing that I realized is that like when I had I had Rosenberg on my [ __ ] I know you guys ain't best friends but he said he's like you know I'm kind of taking a step back from the hip-hop podcasting thing but I'm really really thankful that there's dudes like you who are doing the young underground dudes because you know obviously he's not going in that direction he's going in a more mainstream direction and with you to like do you feel like you're too established to be that A&R ass [ __ ] who's like listening to all these new kids and really having an opinion like that don't have time yeah I'm doing radio um executive producing TV shows I'm starring in TV shows I would write and put and it's tough to play both sides of that coin Yap time you know what I do like you know what I different double-xl couple but this is so funny this is so [ __ ] fun I swear to God I love it look local Jackie I look at my phone I'm about to say thank you them all about to say you know what I do when I taught them a couple you lacked give me the lowdown on what am I missing yes my LE give me the lowdown it just don't I don't know these people like I know if you with him I know a boogie I know ugly God but a mime did they get it right I don't know right you know and they gave me that they gave me to school like academics told me like I think pretty much so they got it right but they could have had T grizzly see Grizzlies a few the fact that he got left out is really bad to me he put me onto that really didn't like the cover at all really was like all these [ __ ] is trash he grizzly is so fire and hit so his moment ah that hurt me so so so so hype listen one of principles in my book is give people the credit they deserve for being stupid including yourself that means know-it-all knows nothing I'm never gonna be that guy I'm not holding on to this [ __ ] I'm never gonna be the guy that's like I'm the authority 40 years old 50 years old I run [ __ ] y'all I listen meat no I I defer right put me on you know me because guess what I'm teaching academics about new [ __ ] my work it's anything TV business uh yeah yeah how to move when you're doing everyday struggle like I mean I've been talking to actual years I did acts first interview ever with a person with me wow like it you can go google it like I've been known academics so it's like I don't have no problem referring to the young boys when it come to this kind of [ __ ] and I just don't have time to keep up with all these new [ __ ] is too much [ __ ] going and I'm into too much music eight that's my problem too I feel like I ain't got the time to watch all the [ __ ] I want to watch I'll darling I'd love to be able to like listen to ten new podcast this week and find one or two that I like it's so hard to like actually try out some new [ __ ] and by the way I'm wearing today yeah I'm into like new voices right then I am more into new music I'm into new TV shows and new movies more than I am into new music but I'm saying like I'm just I like what I like and if it's some new [ __ ] that come around I make me be like oh [ __ ] like since I love citizen s is amazing but did you just get into her like with the new album or we listened to it before I still haven't heard her but I never even really know what she look like till I seen around actually on everyday struggling [ __ ] yeah yeah I didn't get into her until the new album I mean I knew upward because of course CD I love TDI public TV heavy schoolboy Q's I gotta listen Kendrick and absol but I just I love my arm B guy and you know and I thought of listening to her I'm like yo this [ __ ] is dope so it's just like I have no problem deferring to the young boys I'm not trying to say that hand act like I know everything I'm the main we have Vanessa on today I'm like I don't know none of these people on the cover I know this probably know a couple of them but I can't I can't even call it in wack and people hitting me like y'all man you need to go in on this double XL cover this [ __ ] is wack how I call something wack I've never even heard you don't know he's nothing you shouldn't don't [ __ ] with other god though he's [ __ ] he's a liar real he got all those songs about you now so you don't really do it you know really come on young boys that's the homie the second we did his first ever in the plum we got ya and yeah you gotta eat as my brother here in the south - he dies off he napped those characters yeah she only got on on uncommon seneschal which i interview angela ryu got a quote will you say [ __ ] your dreams were you talking about the book yeah and I feel like that's that pertains a lot to society now when the kids now today because they might be watching worldstar they might be watching Instagram even its men and women like a girl might want to be like our new favorite Instagram model kid might want to be like his favorite rapper and they might stray away from things that they actually have talent to do we're not actually capable of putting out so could you speak on that a little bit and yeah I mean that whole concept of [ __ ] your dreams is basically [ __ ] your dreams when they're not your dreams right you know young black kids from the hood man the people we see that is successful you know they look like us are usually in sports or some form of entertainment so you know everybody gravitates towards those two fields but the truth of the matter is that's not really your dream that's just something you see working for somebody else exactly so it's just like my thing is find out what your true passion is find out what you're really good at good at find out what God will find out what gift God gave you that can transform your life because you ain't gonna be the next LeBron James right there's no gonna be there's never I hate when people say that the next such as there is no next such as rich i care is no other michael joy Michael George is Michael Jordan there isn't gonna be there's not going to be another Michael Jordan but there will be another LeBron there will be a Steph Curry there'll be a Kevin Durant like everybody has their own [ __ ] so to speak so it's just like you know when it comes to that sports and entertainment [ __ ] man [ __ ] that we need more public service you need more lawyers more engineers more architects you know what I mean we need more more of that so you hear me say [ __ ] your dreams all I'm telling people is [ __ ] your dreams when they're not your dreams okay you got to make sure that is exactly what you're here to do right we just need to encourage kids to do [ __ ] other than becoming beat makers and rappers or [ __ ] because it's all good it's cool but they got our understands the most competitive competitive lane you could possibly be trying to be in like this is two guys a Bobby and stand and work at the store right next door to mine and some Asian guys and they do clothing and everything like that and they make a ton of money like they're doing all kinds of dope [ __ ] but it's all behind the scenes and I'm looking at them like it's so dope that you guys aren't worried about being famous that you guys are out here just making plays getting deals doing all kinds of dope [ __ ] behind the scenes in terms of making money but that rapper [ __ ] is like it's boring like it like unless you really are that guy right just don't you know I agree I might miss it and that's why I'm an you want to give me a headache tell me you that's it is so like that that is so hard to me like stylish and creative you know me I like creative people I like people that make me make me think further than what I'm thinking on you know what I mean like you coming like oh man rapping like ah man I'll give a [ __ ] my brother totally how to do unless you got some accolades you know like show me show me how your [ __ ] so my view if you're like oh I got video got million views let me rappin alright I'm I watched up so you know yeah the most I could do for you is like if I think you really don't bring on The Breakfast Club like you know I'm saying like it but that's like you you are not going to bring someone who is on zero on The Breakfast Club they got to have mixed age they gotta have some level of success they have to show that they're putting the work and your neck that goes back to people help you when they see you helping yourself right you know saying like [ __ ] all I be talking about you know put me on put me on I'll put yourself on again people like it's a although windy put you on no Wendy saw me helping myself I put my cell phone right and then Wendy was like you know what I see this movie let me let me uh sure it alone right I think that we all do that all the time I know I do but I gotta take your success and like give somebody else credit and but also you're coming from an era in which it was really really hard for you to do your own thing like you had to go get an internship above a kid now like if you have talent set your [ __ ] $300 camera up or nevermind your iPhone and just talking to you to your camera like that's basically how I made a name for myself if you got talent people are going to find out about you like like that's the truth amalgam focus is a podcast honking [ __ ] of this music on care if it's comedy if you're good or you got something people are going to gravitate toward even if you're selling like I got these homeboys that do these uh they do these trivia cards the trivia cards are based off like ninety [ __ ] like so it's like Martin trivia cards different world like this and so good at it I saw I don't Instagram I'm like oh [ __ ] I ordered some and I just happen to retweet them and post it because I thought that she was dope right people started ordering a [ __ ] and these guys are making money now like real legit six-figure money and it's like they didn't have to ask you yo retweet my said check my [ __ ] out there was doing a on Sam you saw the great product like it's fast so we was in Anguilla we played them trivia cards for like an owl I didn't realize how funny one like there Martin trivia like we're like we're playing Martin trivia Lang who what rapper was Sheneneh trying to seduce and what was the song she was using kids and kitten play forever my lady like you like it brings back so much dope memories but all I'm saying all that to say if it's dope people will find it like that's saying if you build it they will come and it's absolutely true if it's so cuz people are going to talk like we live in the era of super word amount word of mouth always with spread thing but now with social media anything can come across your timeline and you'll start paying attention some doesn't matter what much sometimes it's too much and way too much like I got content overacting academics the definition of hitting out of camera when he came out it was just he playing little little videos and it's just him talking and and that led to him you know in the complex doing this big I show his own [ __ ] being [ __ ] huge it's crazy like and that he like he should be the person that young kids are looking at for inspiration not rappers yeah I remember I remember act calling me our DME me I forgot how you gotta touch with me but he was like heal can I interview you and I'm like yeah it was about six years ago that guy's cool six years on and no he was wrong and it's funny because he always talked he talks about it now he's like yo I deemed everybody hmm nobody responded to me except for Charlemagne II he was like at you know at the time he's like shot me had a shape moving you know how good two years into the breakfast club I think and he just didn't interview with him yeah cuz I respect the hustle like I I'm not if you if you take the time to reach out get in touch and figure out a way to contact me and like it's not on some like just tweeting me a hundred times and somehow way you hustle your way to get in contact me and why not why would not sit down a chop it up with you right here yeah like a decent sized platform with us oh really Oh that's very nicely done because I feel like I just get a million [ __ ] messages a day about [ __ ] that it's like I just block everything out I try I guess I can't do every buy can right you know do everyone now is this something I don't know what it was it was just something that made me like you know what I'm a [ __ ] dude yeah and sometimes it is just that sometimes it's just energy no sometimes you just know like I don't I didn't know academics was gonna be you know the [ __ ] internet god six years later I was just [ __ ] I did something about him like okay you know I gave him an interview so it's just interesting man and it's funny how you remember certain people like we had a Tiffany Haddish on Tiffany Haddish is Jesus she's a rising comedian and she's don't like the Carmichael show she's all she's got this other show coming out with Tracy Morgan she's kind of movie coming out with Queen Latifah and Jada Pinkett Smith but I remember like 10 years ago we was at vh1 doing a talking head stuff now I just remember her I thought she was I just remember what watch her on TV I thought she was funny and I remember her me in the dressing room talking and everything and then today I'm you know I could I bought it to The Breakfast Club and she was like you remember you wouldn't take a picture with me so like what should I get you had the photo poof and I told you coming to fall to take a picture of me and you wouldn't take a picture you said you was busy I'm like that'll even sound like me but yeah she said it happened it happened but I just remember her mmm you know many talking head shows I've done you know many people I've met but it was something about her and her energy that I just remember you know even I mean I've been following on Instagram and Twitter for the longest I think she's funny and she's gonna chance podcast a couple years ago and I loved her story but I'm I'm just saying all I have to say is this certain energy about a person of people that you just know they got something right and like she was wandering him academics is one of them he's just cuz it's way the gang goes no Wendy saw with me you know Wendy was shouting me out about my interviews with back when I was still doing radio in Columbia South Carolina it's tough though because I remember listening you talk about auditioning people for I think uncommon sense and you were saying like it's so hard to find somebody who's truly like great on camera and that you know so talk about that like what is the thing that people are lacking in regard to being that on-camera personality with a lot of people that's what they want to do well I mean just the area we made everybody socially awkward yeah oh sure median you don't have to communicate like this anymore mmm I'm we're talking to each other like this is a skill and a lot of people's minds this is very uncommon which is strange I think about a by the way check this out I don't know how people used to do I don't know how to read it posted okay cuz back in the day we'd have to sit down with a girl during the eye and make her laugh and actually engage her through conversation like they can't do they don't do that no more let's say just [ __ ] because of the dm's in the Texas I wrote me today text each other to just come to each other's cribs and just sit there and [ __ ] by the way that does have it - I'm not I thought about it because I [ __ ] some young girls you know I'm seeing a while I saw cloud top is all about getting clout getting top off of the clout and not having to work it on a one-on-one date I got to see I was amazing I [ __ ] a couple 21 22 year old girls you know what I'm saying like not that's all about yeah I wasn't having no common any word answers okay cool especially when your job is to make conversation all day and then like that you know you reach the the 10:00 p.m. part of the night where you got a girl over and you're like watching TV or whatever you start trying to talk and she's just you know I'm not saying all women are stupid but a lot of times the ones who are good-looking enough that you want to put your dick in them could be kind of stupid it's like cyborg [ __ ] haha like I'm out of town right I'm out of town i text the girl she texts me back I'm at the hotel and then boom that's digital it's like item a called uber call Aluva that's digital yep oh yeah the zanga is real Rhona he lets order food so she's on drew brees window state so she called the food blueberry soup okay yeah yeah yeah fool comes she eats she's what we do we'd comes over she smokes we [ __ ] through a condom that's it that's how she looks real here then I promise you before I wake up in the morning she's gone she called another Ubel yeah and then my mom like that even happen yeah and why did I do it I've had those names like what did I just do to myself like like yeah I busted a nut bag of busting up by myself and yeah I got to spend some time with somebody then relative release was that it really makes you start to feel like that maybe I was kicked over my girl I'll tell you a little edgy less fulfilling I promise you is more fulfilling like Kevin Liles some Kevin he told me one time he said I can't tell you to get married I can tell you to find somebody to share your experiences right mmm and that's real like you're living real life with a person right should I just described any real life mm-hmm like I'm right that's it what's our word of what it was it was a transaction you know sometimes you transfer money if you if you don't come out your pocket like if you got a big one yeah yeah yeah it feels like you you misses an empty right if you just transfer from your account to somebody else's account I mean you don't know what happened when you're fully like it with angle when you know when you don't have anything of substance in terms of a relationship you start to feel like you're cobbling together something that kind of feels like being in a relationship through lots of random sex partners like the emotional connection you know you're sort of like able our conversation with like some percentage of these girls that you're [ __ ] and stuff but you never really get to that point where you really feel like you have somebody in your corner yeah you're right and that's why the uncommon sense when I when I was auditioning people that was so weird because it's like [ __ ] would literally just coming in and just sit there mmm like it's not quick like wow he's always talking like it yeah yeah I'm like how do y'all even argue about sports I don't really have hip hop additions right are you gotta be quick in there you gotta be quick when you're debating this kind of [ __ ] like and you meet people thinking about how people are going to interpret them though they got a facade over their face so they just ain't that guy you know it's like if you want to that's one thing I like about rappers is that white people are always texting each other like they don't call each other a FaceTime or anything rappers will facetime my ass like straight up by eight I want to come and do the interview you know and I like that it's very confrontational I like sex and now I do it all the time like if I got a girl's number of Instagram or some [ __ ] boom I'm facetiming her I'm all up in a face like just trying to feel out of vibe you do know you got to get on it it's so much better oh no face it's so real I hate this [ __ ] especially a guy why the [ __ ] we paid Tommy said I don't look at you guys it's but it's like them pulling up at your house it's so much different than just texting just don't like I don't like faith I do and people FaceTime you in weird places like you fate Tommy from a restaurant right yeah yeah I you not hear everything behind like I don't I just don't like I think and I think a lot of times especially you know people fate on you just just to say yeah I'm FaceTime and look home Ptolemy here's a screenshot of the face son I've done it but it's like a new popping rapper will come out that'll like not be in LA or New York and [ __ ] are posting the face times with him like religiously like they love it as a bragging thing my problem that I learned because you know I give my number to everybody I don't give a [ __ ] you know I'm one phone what's wrong I just a known for years I get my number anybody my email whatever come beyond what you mean I'm really awesome you never know [ __ ] you know I'm saying I like the front on nobody because I know how I feel to be fronted on and so it's just like people who violate that you know I mean I've had people screenshot text that we've had and then post them that's just cause people don't know that that is like super off-limits in the real world like if you're a journalist or something you cannot do that unless you have permission and now I'm not [ __ ] with you yeah now I'm not [ __ ] no more now you know by now I'm not [ __ ] with you I don't know [ __ ] what the text conversation was about I could have been talking about how I love Jesus well I'm not fighting over we're done cuz I know how you are now like I you you violated the trust that you haven't even built with me yet right so I just thought that it's dangerous for people because sometimes you got to make people pay for the sins of others no you know I'm saying like I'm a little bit more standoffish than I was I never was that [ __ ] now I'm like all my sisters right there you get alright you know they like more a better reason to say yeah yeah that's the thing you that's the thing you learn over time to the big the best part about my journey is I was I'm so anti industry and I still AM it's just that now we built our own industry like this is like everything we're doing is new you only have to take part in the part of the industry that you've made for yourself yes you don't have to go to the awards show you don't have to go to club there you go so so so growing as a I guess a public figure you start to realize a lot of the things you thought was just some DK [ __ ] the things you actually need like managers aging liars you know assistants you know what I mean or like a really being too busy for a person not back in the day you would text somebody or email somebody and they wouldn't get back to you and you're going crazy but then you don't realize that person got a thousand emails that day that person's does not even they never even let your email sink into the brain not to mention they might have somebody who's deleting emails for them look Wow it's the past hour we can do in the podcast one two three four five six got six texts in the past hour I may or mean I may or may not remember texting you right yeah you know what I'm saying I don't know yeah but it's not it's not it's something that you blame on my mind and not my heart you know I mean that's why you have people there to constantly remind you of [ __ ] you got to do like yo I'm starting the show I got two shows I'm executive producer that I'm starting this week I thought it was next week I thought it was a twenty seconds until they came in the day I was like yeah and I'm like something I'm like Sunday he was like oh [ __ ] and my assistant and my manager is like we told you that let's check the email my email and I get old it says right there you were right it you're you were wrong you were in the writers room oh you were wrong I thought it was in next week but as your [ __ ] all [ __ ] up now the way now in his father's day but it's just like you know Dan doesn't work yesterday yesterday you made premium P draft for two hours Oh duh premium Pete you know who's here no it's like Italian duties I sneaker guy and everything he does his own podcast and everything and they had him come down to do like he told him to come down but he didn't realize the Chris Moore book me too yeah but but in your opinion a premium Pete [ __ ] up by not consulting with your assistant just to make a holiday sure he did he was talking to my she wasn't in touch with Chris there you go absolutely and you know it but that's my fault I'm so he's my guy and this is this is this is the other part of the game I've learned Peter's my guy like my friend like piki call me if he can text me I'll pick up the phone via text feedback picky talk to me directly but even with that that's not good cuz I'm a friend I'm like y'all come to the podcast Wednesday on Friday you kind of surely Fosters like coming to podcast Wednesday but if you would have coordinated with page hitting page with coordinated with Chris or whatever then I could avoid them driving two hours you know I'm saying sometimes it's not even good to talk to me Donald the [ __ ] going on so you're about to turn Paige into a pact making her wear that [ __ ] black privilege shirt all the time oh man that's funny little blonde girlfriend that [ __ ] I need no sir pages and pages and he was like privileged but who created our own opportunity shout the page what did she do to impress you just like maybe that's interesting to people out there right on time page favorite come tell them how you met me hey we're just trying to figure out how you draw a two gentleman up its my family makes you wear the black polo shirt how'd you create your own opportunities page I snuck backstage to an N double AC P of N Evan yeah white girl ever what the [ __ ] no but white girl blond hair blue eyed snug backstage at n-double-a-cp of it wow that's why she will you hide in a cake or something they're like you hide under like I have backdoor of like the biggest venue of Penn State so after I'd done a few artist interviews they like got to know me and they're like all here for another interview I'm like yes to him and his security didn't mind because he wouldn't like the real one you should turn her into like a tunnel around your own little puppet and like she could do the right wing broadcast and stuff you kind of just manage her she Heller should to say the most offensive music total obviously no come on it's like legit total she wanted those new millennium hip hop kids now you that it does it that's not even about race like you knows you got a Tupac [ __ ] shirt on right now this is his first album to Apocalypse Now especially no to box birthday tomorrow I don't know oh but it's not that much aerobic yeah whatever it's like she's just one of those she loves it by and you not a man and she likes you she loved the culture I used to say our culture but it's be coaches all of our coaching now hip-hop has grown it's evolved we know what the roots of it us what's your advice to like white people trying to make it in the culture I'm like a media perspective or something like somebody like me or Andrew how to because it feels like if you're going to be white in hip-hop there's almost certainly going to come a time where they're going to find your old tweet something you said one time and they're going to come for you yes Jules you know screenshots of teacher with the n-word on it like what do white people need to be able to do to respectfully exist within this world that we did not necessarily create just be authentic and pay homage I say be authentic pay homage respect for the culture that's it like be authentic meaning that be your true self don't try to be black you be white I got I don't like white black guys too and I don't like white black god I hate it like I'm like its cultural appropriation and it's just looking at you're making a mockery like you look stupid I don't like that [ __ ] I mean what like the sweatsuit white guy there's not a lot of them anymore yeah used to be a lot of white like because now there's lot of bikers who sort of inhabited a more white style of dress as well so it's much more like evenly spread out yeah yeah black guy in bands you don't think twice about it now yeah but I love that door I thought when I got a very good I love when it's a white guy in vans with glasses but he knows his [ __ ] about about hip-hop that's dope there and you know when I say pay homage just always constantly say where it came from like when you see these acts of cultural appropriation like nah nah no that's not true this came from that car roll didn't arrive with Kardashians that [ __ ] been going on without whatever be respectful always remember that you are dealing even when you're dealing with a popular with issue at race you can't be a white girl with and wear a t-shirt on all right that's always gonna be a trigger sorry yes she didn't wear it to the screenshot so you know that [ __ ] was that she should have she said like gee guys like do you think I should wear this and she was being sarcastic I should believe her on this that she was trying to make fun of the shooters she should have said some dumb [ __ ] sent me a picture this shirt asked me if I wanted she should have been very explicit in that case and even maybe then just maybe don't do it yeah it's good because you sound like you're asking for a path to use the n-word right international [ __ ] it's like she made it way too easy for people to a what a PR maven she's a PR person exactly she's yeah that's a very good point huh she's too in touch with the PR world to do something that was all she know that was will be bad PR base we should have been able to imagine that that is a good point okay so that is be authentic and be respectful of the coach and just pay homage that's it you could be and rude and just sort of you should just opt out he's like I'll never hurt an is I don't give a [ __ ] yeah I guess you got the thing like it's funny and I'm glad people don't do that anyway at one point I guess people thought very nice was a hip-hop podcast with me I guess it's a lifestyle it's actually like your main non hip-hop venture kind of right that none common sense I don't think yeah I mean anything I do is going to be tied in the hip hop cuz I'm hip hop but even the Breakfast Club every club is a that's the other thing I hate I hate when people talk about going mainstream for all hip-hop is mainstream hip-hop is pop culture there's no culture out there that's more popular than hip hop I don't even [ __ ] fit the dress on you [ __ ] it's the music the slang everybody has hip hop with it so when you talk about us going mainstream it's not that we're going mainstream we're just the hip hop show that is diverse is anything else that's out there like I grew up on diversify like I grew up [ __ ] listening to guys like wu-tang talked about comic books and superheroes in religion and politics people forget how freaky wu-tang were at the time and how weird it was considered so it's like for me I was always into everything I guess never I was I was on interview with somebody was like yo you use some of the craziest references you reference Judy Blume and back to the future but then your reference code that black I'm like that's just my life yeah but he know what I mean I was the guide I was watching my girl and Minister society yeah I was watching Sweet Home Alabama and boys in the you know I'm saying I got this my life I was I was watching [ __ ] Tom Hanks big and juicy like it's funny because that's one thing that while I tried to say that academics you try to say like I was to do it on the football team you were the [ __ ] nerd and then when academics respond to is like you know he's kind of right but it's cool to be the nerd now and like I think now it's cool for you to bring up Judy Blume even though you might be confusing a very large percentage of your audience but you know it's just [ __ ] like that is like people want you to have a wide reference base I think the fact that I know about hardcore punk music and [ __ ] like that and like well sometimes go to hardcore shows or my videos or whatever people like it they think it's so cool that I know about a different culture other than hip-hop as well yeah and in plus yeah I don't never know who's listening any [ __ ] way true I do public to rest real radio everything could be everybody exactly the only thing I can do is be myself you understand like I know some people not gonna like what I say some people gonna like what I that's why I believe in the [ __ ] rule attempt if you don't like it you're not gonna like it so you're gonna be on the fence about it what I'm not gonna do is try to cater to one audience but I'm not gonna do is try to think I know what people want and only give them that if I stuck with it I [ __ ] with it I don't care right like I don't care if if like if somebody likes it if somebody don't like it if I'm [ __ ] with it I'm gonna put it out there and that's just what I try to do with the platform at all times like the dentist got you here though so I was actually being myself as what got me it right but I can't do anything but be myself that's a beautiful place to be in them like I know a lot of people who have you know like or somebody like academics like his YouTube channel is basically him being himself but it's a little bit more of a challenge because he has to actually accurately report on different stories stuff like that if you could get to the point where you being yourself like doing podcasts in our case or whatever if that's your thing I mean I can't imagine I look like a better place to be in that's why you know I always learn from Howard Stern and windy because I've heard both of them say if you have to rely on guests to have a show you don't have a [ __ ] show and like I like the fact that I'm on the radio Monday through Friday you know 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. and I got to rely on me at the end of the day like what I do have to be interesting enough the key people in treating keep people entertained that's why I don't have no problem being myself because I'm taking people on a journey I'm saying people have watched me grow they watch me evolve and I'm not I'm the guy that I shown you how they should have cooked up I'm showing you how this [ __ ] was how did [ __ ] is going down in the kitchen like I'm not trying to hide nothing from nobody people are watching the growth they're watching the evolution and I think is I think that's dope because that's everybody I loved that's what I did like I feel like I I feel like we watch jay-z become Jesus yeah and that endears you doing because you see in the whole journey I feel the same as I watched Edie become Diddy we watched dr. Dre become dr. Dre like we lived it but kids come into the game and they're like Charlemagne just use a guy with a job they don't know what you did to lead up to being on the fabulous Club and you kind of can't blame them because when you're 18 you don't necessarily have a kid perspective you don't think of it like that but I mean that's the right way to think about it is to think the Charlemagne guy got you got some good gigs but like what did he do to get there that's what you should be curious about rather than just passing judgment and they go back to what you're asking earlier about the new artist you know it's hot me to pass judgment on their music number one cuz they're young but number two I understand the journey it probably took for the game put it where they are and a lot of these dudes I know when they was I'm never walking I remember Angela he actually gave Kendrick Lamar his first interview ever period on satellite radio and I remember Kendrick Dana went to Anjali bowling evincing like oh nine and I remember walking up the kindred in saying hey I need an 11 and a half shoot wow that's a realization that's a Royal joke now because I remember I would always tell that sorry I'd be like Kendrick don't look like a star now mind you I'm older and what I didn't realize was we was about to have a new era of hip hop guys who didn't fit the traditional mold of rap star so it was the Kendricks the cold the chances these regular guy who became superstars so in my mind I'm thinking Jane I'm thinking Diddy you know those big personalities the gold chains all that [ __ ] like that so I would always be like this guy can't possibly be the stuff I remember talking about my homegirl Debby dev we to be trying to put me on the Kendrick you gotta listen to section 80 I'm like this doesn't like the kids this kid can't be a star like there's no way but they're not listening like he's really dope but I just don't see it cuz it's aesthetically I was like you know he's not going to be a star but jealous he's one of the biggest rap stars in the world so sometimes when I see top dog now he'd be like Kendrick look like a star to you yet you know what I'm saying he like I saw to you yet because that was but but that was my my mindset but I'm saying I like to say it's like those kids I saw them from the beginning so it's a respect level you got to be in love with the struggle you know like if you love seeing Tupac become to pot you should be happy to see 21 savage becoming 21 savage and I hope for the best for him you know you gotta be gonna want to see these kids succeed money know pop yeah Fox always gonna look mythical to me that's why I don't when I talked to sway I Angie Martinez he would actually knew him right you know I mean like you you in Angie's book I have a conversation with Angie you forget at one point Jay was just a rapper trying to make it right not I mean until you talk to somebody like Angie and you realize Angie's the first person ever play at jay-z record on the radio that's crazy you know I'm saying that she Jay and Dame pulling up to the radio station in a Benz just to meet her come downstairs bottles of champagne you know I mean let me let you hit this reasonable doubt album you forget biggie was just a guy walking around New York trying to get a deal at one point let you forget that so their endeared to those guys in a different way they see the game in a different way and I feel like I'm at that point in my life like I know I mean why late why ladies like my man now while they first came out I remember seeing him on some award show with the Mickey Mouse jacket and a little dredgen I glued this corny ass [ __ ] Mickey Mouse I'm not even listening to his music right I'm like corny ass [ __ ] with the baby dreadlocks in the Mickey Mouse Jackie and I remember him getting at me on Twitter like yeah what the [ __ ] yo are you coming at me like that whatever whatever and then I gave him donkey of the day and he's like yo why are you doing this I remember him saying I did me on Twitter why are you doing this right he couldn't understand that he's new to the game why somebody would just be coming at him but he's still like that he's so sensitive as hell right yes he is but I understand it now yeah I'm saying cuz like he was just a young kid trying to rap trying to live his dreams and here's this guy coming at him and I really had no reason I could he not wack you know that you don't like a man but he's not whack at all but I just I was just making jokes clowning and it's just like for me now it's just like I understand your effect that can have on us yeah on a young kid is just trying to make it it's kind of like you're kicking them before they're like you could kick Drake cuz you ain't gonna do anything to drink you know you could [ __ ] on Drake all day every day and it's not really gonna bring money young yeah I was [ __ ] on Drake yeah I was actually understanding this [ __ ] like what we like in Canada where are we supposed to pop when he said he was sending you bottles weren't we we all felt like we were going to see an interview with Drake on Breakfast Club like two weeks later right I thought that was what I was right I said why are you sending so many bottles if you're not gonna come do their thing that was it that was it that was interesting too right because it's like when that happen like you put my name in a record and you know you sent me two bottles that's a big look and everybody like answers like water bottles out [ __ ] that and I'm like why we're not a deficit of excessive as hell how disliked I don't know the guy didn't like his music I don't like I didn't like it first on a sort of Bob but I don't I don't know I don't just like him like it's not like a [ __ ] you like why would I do that demand and he sent me a note a handwritten note that said let's be friends what kind of [ __ ] would I be yeah ready dad a notice he signed in our briefs we ready to sing Aubrey well I got I'm gonna make me feel bad like I'm [ __ ] on this nice guy but I'm over here assuming that like the employees here or whatever they got to be hustling trying to get in touch with ovo be like yeah let's actually line this interview up right well I mean it still didn't happen now cuz I mean I didn't care about the interview simply because the reason I did it is because like it came from a good place like they had sent me so it's something some people that sent me the reference tracks right because they like Oh Charlotte means won't go in on a drink like that's what they social [ __ ] that flex did was offered to you as well oh I had that you know at least two weeks before [ __ ] it's not why I hire and and it was 24 when I got it from prominent people in the game like it was rappers and DJs that's why I was funny when he put in line like they're conspiring against me because it almost did seem like that like I got this [ __ ] from rappers indeed rappers that weren't even involved in the beef yeah was sending me to [ __ ] alright so it's just like when I got it I didn't want it because I had did to [ __ ] with Floyd Mayweather why I played the audio with Floyd Mayweather reading and that she just didn't feel good to me like didn't going to press me in the street I didn't get in trouble from corporate like I just didn't feel good as a person when I did because I'm teasing them for being stupid or something and I didn't realize how many [ __ ] couldn't read so I can't read you didn't know like oh Sh I was like I didn't think of it like that but that's probably true a lot of people probably real bad it wasn't a teachable moment so when I got those reference tracks I was like not did she feel like Floyd Mayweather a little bit yeah yeah so I sent I actually sent them to UM to the Jay France because Jays my man you know saying who's the ogj Prince I just sent him to him like Joe Hill and I reached out to another person that were mutually cool with that in the party party I didn't even know at the time that the person was cool with him as she was oh this is just a person that I reach out to for advice hi this is Mike actually call her - Oracle I could I reach out to her for advice all the time about different things and I just hit her up I was like Killman remember I told you how I felt about the Floyd Mayweather show I just got these tranquil reference tracks and I go do you know I think I should do [ __ ] and she was on some [ __ ] like well you know what's gonna happen if you put him out like it's gonna call the whole bunch of [ __ ] whatever whatever like yeah you right and you know you probably not gonna feel good about it and like yeah you're right so that's what made me something to Jay pride and so that's what caused him to put my name in a record cuz when they had a conversation he was like well then why he didn't go in on me that's what he just expect me to do is she was like yeah and I had told her I was like I want to ruin this man's career right don't say I ain't trying to ruin the man's career like I don't like it's weird because you causing a lot of [ __ ] for yourself is also the best thing you can do for your career on any given day right like making people want to shoot you is almost exactly the same as you making a lot new other new fans and getting a lot new listeners maybe you're at the point where it doesn't seem like it matters that much but if I were to go online right now and tweet the most offensive [ __ ] I could think of but it was kind of funny or interesting or whatever maybe I get 2,000 people saying them the biggest piece of [ __ ] on earth but it's also probably one of the best looks like I'd have because it puts you out there I think about it for me I did I is the prime example why you should always follow your heart and follow your energy my energy told me that didn't feel right I could have rebelled against that if they [ __ ] it like I did with Floyd Mayweather right and got mad attention and all that dumb [ __ ] like that instead I just thought I told to follow my energy not put it out and ended up getting a better look yeah and it goes flex ended up looking like [ __ ] my whole thing Friday night you and each state was a [ __ ] about end of god thing to do it was you felt like you didn't want to put it out you have to put my name in that record Yeah right that's probably a better look in the end yeah me saying oh my people mr. xie painful liquor sins back-to-back came out I swear to God I believe you know I can be Rann yo listen a Snapple Fabian random run true story I'm in LA it's me my wife my homeboy van become an alcoholic my sister Alicia Rene my homeboy wax we just in there eating this is literally like a month ago we in there eatin like you know the waitress comes over a couple bottles of Dom Perignon I'm like I know I reach and she's like no the guy over there said you want to buy a bottle for Charla me oh that's it's literally been like that that's exactly come out if I'm in love I never go to clubs or anything but if I'm somewhere where there's bottles I guarantee you so Michael Bobby head I'm gonna be twins and they're thinking they're the first one ever makes a joke gotten to a point why I feel like a pretty woman is not pretty women go out they don't expect to buy any drinks yes that's how it is like if I'm sitting in the restaurant I promise you if we go out somewhere and it's a restaurant somebody's gonna send over a bottle for sure that's the best thing you can hope and aspire to be as a man is to have hot girl vibes like you walking you walk in the club and you got dudes look or you got girls looking at you trying to talk to you and feel like a hot girl that's always what I've been going for but as a guy you can't very few guys are going to be pretty enough to get there you could work out you get we can all get six-packs don't really you might even have one it don't really matter it's like as a guy it's got to be clout it's got to be money but you got you get enough with that that you can kind of feel like a hot girl then you made it you're right yeah absolutely right so I'm going for so I mean sparklers that was that was that was out that was a great moment I loved it you know me but I mean maybe maybe me a drink we'll sit down and chop it up in the future you know saying like I don't I don't have any desire to interview anyone you know like like the last person I really want to interview with Tiffany Haddish mm-hmm who's that that's the girl I was talking earlier meaning like I'm weird like that like I'm into you I want I want to talk to you because I want the world to see how dope you I want them to feel the energy right that I feel you know and i got like i said i heard tiffany on a champs podcast yeah a couple years ago and i just loved her story and now it's just like she's growing and evolving in like looking like she's about to be next and i think though you might have put in that spot just not off to be next it's already lined up she's on the Carmichael shows you got a movie coming out like it's all lit like when the interview drops it's gonna be like a lot [ __ ] with her like people will be like ah [ __ ] with her so now he's gonna start connecting the dots when they see her other places that's what it's about now we live in a personality driven game you could be a dope as hell you know as far as talent wise and rap is just one way to express your personality just one way to express you could be a youtuber you could be a podcaster you could be anything yep and I just think I get you can just tell when somebody's about to be like the [ __ ] you understand you gotta remember like I loved seeing Kevin Hart right now Kevin Hart is like number one on the New York Times bestsellers list but seven years ago me and my man little Duval was going to meet Kevin at Caroline's comedy club you know yeah Caroline's yeah like I literally remember Kevin talks about his book how he sold out ten shows in a weekend I went to one of those shows I remember meeting cab and Cara like maybe you want us you shot all four Breakfast Club yeah and I remember Duvall and cab used to always argue with each other like about this could be [ __ ] about who's taller who got more money who's more pop and comedian I remember kept looking at loads of all insane because it was going back and forth keval standing right by like right right in the back and chemicals hey hey hey they're about to call my name and when they announced my name this place is gonna go crazy and I'm not gonna be able to hear you I'm gonna go into conversation now said that Kevin Hart whole place goes crazy he just walks out yet how does it like that feeling right they're like out of here were you directly competing with him for the number one slot on your book no my book came out April 18 Oh out on June 6 okay but it was dope though because you know my book came out in the debuted at number six non-fiction hardcover which was a big deal and I mean my book was you know I've been on the New York Times bestsellers list for like seven weeks straight and like you know I've been selling a lot of books like I've sold a lot of books like more so than anybody was expecting including the publishing career so it kind of like you know they don't expect us they don't expect our culture to read they don't affect our culture to be going out there and buying a book so it kind of set it up for Kevin away you know what I mean because like I booked on they had me interview care you know I mean like they got they had the guy whose book was just popping the black guy interview cab which was dope and I read Keva book and Kalibak is life lessons so you know Kansas platform is huge he's already a saw and cab is like y'all Kevin saying I'm gonna be number one on your town got Celicas which I which I love I love people speaking [ __ ] in fruition so I was like he kept saying that he kept saying it kept saying it and it's like it happy you go to interview Kevin Hart in front of a live audience so do you feel the need to prepare in any way besides like you read you read his book but are you writing down questions or writing down notes okay I don't see you with no set off down the breakfast club you usually have like some always okay on my laptop computer yeah yeah but don't you think Google did don't you think this is vegetative scenario we where it's just fully conversational because like I came into this I said to him before I'm like you know I got a few things I'm going to bring up I'm gonna bring up only remember we're talking about cloud top am I gonna ask my feels about the concept of that a couple other things but I was like yeah I same thing like I did rosin break the other day I'm like these guys are professionals I don't got a right [ __ ] down for him yeah I mean with me um like when it's something like a book a certain thing like I want to ask about so I have those to pay and I'll tell I'm like I got my notes whatever you know like would ya any when anybody always try to have like ten things that I want to ask the person but I'm not sticking to that you know I mean because I want to keep calm I like conversations and the best the best interviewers are the greatest listeners yeah I'm always thinking about that I hate interviewers who you can tell they just trying to get the questions up right that's like the number one sign of this is a [ __ ] interview that I could have done that over email or you're not even a you're not even famous person to attend you could if you were eg with this [ __ ] just say you know Jose ask if you heard what they just say why you trying to take the interview somewhere else like you know we had yet uh LT Hutton on the other day and lt honey was talking about how John Singleton when you did the POC movie he wanted to have pot getting raped in jail you know and huh yeah did that happen no we didn't could he didn't do the movie I don't know I don't think happen in real life but one of the what you're moping about Angela you asked about something else and I'm like whoa whoa whoa whoa wait a minute before we move on you know what I'm saying yeah exactly what happened where you go in the script I was pocket ready that's so indicative of the person not listen no offense to Angela but it's like if you don't like how that would never have in a real conversation like oh you start talking about something like that you just move on yeah yeah that's a bad who got read yeah everybody got mad at me for logic remember we at logic whether you said logic on The Breakfast Club I would roast logic and logic was talking and he was talking about how he wasn't having a conversation ego you know like my sister getting raped and yada yada yada and I'm like wait what am i who raped your sister now everybody takes the clip and it's just me going Oh Rach assisted I'm not like like no such a [ __ ] you're an [ __ ] it's Matt I'm like the job just not hear this guy say somebody rigged to Cisco you said read why - like that you cannot or like you know that [ __ ] is breakfast they tried to tell me that I'm a snitch or something because when I had tacks on the podcast it was like two weeks after the incident with Troy Ave or whatever and I just said hey what happened and he said I don't know I never won I didn't know I still don't know but you know I really didn't know at that time and I didn't know what he wanted to say where I want to volunteer I'm like how the [ __ ] is that snitching - ask him a question knowing he's an adult he can answer the question I have a [ __ ] ones and I still don't know what happened in right and none of us none of us me you Chris Morrow Andrew I talked to everybody I used to make people feel like they maybe know a little something but nobody really knows yeah exactly is it I remember the night hacks are smart nothing he don't talk about it you know the night that should happen the night it happened I remember retweeting like to pop wire because it was like shots fired at Irving Plaza hmm i retweeted it and I was joking I go everywhere Tecton tried to [ __ ] with him like that all the time you know what I'm saying yeah even though he's a great notice and he's a great guy smart intelligent you know what I mean but I used to [ __ ] with him like that all the time and then like you like oh [ __ ] you know horse and I what the [ __ ] and like I don't think I didn't think he was actually right the stories of the cops are coming with now we're tax is like at fault none of us knew that at first because it's like you saw the video of Troy Ave shooting yeah so I when I asked tax like what was going on I really was thinking more that he was like a victim in the situation and obviously we still don't know but the cops are pushing a different narrative but either way what you know people that's a very strange thing is that people tend to fill in they look at years some on the podcast using all the information that comes out later to view it in a different light I can't wait til the blanket feeling because I've never talked to text one about that situation and I don't think I ever will right you know what I'm saying unless like later on down the line after all the smoke clears I broke a habit yeah I'm saying like I don't I I still don't know it still it sounds crazy because we're hearing like you say what the police say what do we see Troy on video and it's just like it's just that's that's probably the most [ __ ] up situation I've seen and since I've since I've been involved in this and rap podcasting for sure that's the craziest things narrative the tap I can't believe it like sometimes I'm sitting around like yoke like like you know taxol called me from jail you know I put some money on his book so he'll text me they got texting all that [ __ ] in jail and I'm like tax is really in jail like like like you made it - and his outfit Raiders right now we bout to start shooting tax TV show that week and then you know somebody's dead like why why is Munny dead behind this you know saying like what what is serious like it's tragic it's tragic all across the board like it just [ __ ] up you know it's I just I say rest in peace Bangla and I just you know I just I can't even say I pray for everybody involved because I don't even like to involve God and stuff like that it has nothing to do with it you know to me what is just like I I can't even say wish everybody the best cuz somebody's dead so just a [ __ ] up situation all across the board Thanks hey black privilege in stores I know you got to be going where Dylan was two hours oh well you have black privileges out right now in my copy today right after this dandy man is a New York Times best seller is eight principles that I learned in my life that I'm sharing with people I'm a huge self-help guy so I love like Wayne W Dyer and Malcolm Gladwell and Robert Greene and Ryan holiday and I love Mark Manson to mock Manson's book I don't even [ __ ] you know that's my that was my time sometimes I give a [ __ ] yeah it's a great read I love stuff like that you know and I'm so I just wanted to create a self-help book for the hood and it's been on the middle of town by sellers for several weeks in a row it didn't make it this week because of Kevin and a few other books that came out and sold it on my back though Commerce week Oh we'll be back it's definitely that's what it's selling great and I just want everybody to go out there and get that information man go get enlightened go be inspired and I'm not an expert at nothing I just got some experiences and I'm sharing with people that's it I'm glad I could introduce you to as well yeah I made black days manager yes or andum Lee that guy I'm the type person I speak to everybody so I walked in the bathroom and I was like yo what's up man I'm taking a piss and he goes yeah it's Matty for the white guy boy Johnny yeah I don't even know this guy yes I'm taking a piss and he goes black days and like at first all I heard was like black dope hello Charlotte man heard black dust I thought he was live like what I don't say black dick when you said he's like yeah but not now you come on man black game tomorrow and I was like oh yeah yeah yeah I was acid just I just look at him you know I just I just looked at him he's got him on the pocket he's like yeah that's my I'm managing him so I'm like okay that's what's up talking to people in the bathroom was kind of that's kind of a thing photos in the bathroom to change said a bar said like I love my fans but I don't want to take pictures in the bathroom want me happy fish yourself is a man I got for real like I got a [ __ ] is stupid it's over in the bedroom I want some old-school homophobic [ __ ] when it kind of stuff like that like it's always same things like my my fans start acting mad weird to me I go way old school and stuff I want to start like being like yo you're acting like a blank like get the [ __ ] away I start getting real weird like jail dude type thing I would imagine because it's just people just be too close and you just want a while I'll have some respect for ourselves as the main I'm sitting there with my dick in my hand I'm still shaking appeal don't ask me for no [ __ ] picture bro like wait let me get a photo of what on it that's how you make me act like an [ __ ] like I'm Finland and it's not even like on my ass I'm just like yo man we talked about side like I you know I mean like you might hit an aggravation about voice like oh yeah I'm a dick in my hand I'm a platter fan 27 but we fighting fans thank you having me out of it was amazing hey Damien you prom a huge [ __ ] inspiration thank you very much a black day of great New Yorker everybody thank you for tuning in this has been no John berry coulis podcast in the world YouTube SoundCloud iTunes page and be coming soon peace [Music] [Applause] [Music]

Channel: No Jumper

Views: 1,457,863

Rating: 4.6763806 out of 5

Keywords: hip hop, charlamagne, rap, no jumper, charlamagne interview, brilliant idiots, andrew schulz, the breakfast club, adam22, black dave

Id: Yef5t8TSDY0

Length: 111min 3sec (6663 seconds)

Published: Mon Jun 26 2017