The BEST 80% lowers and Jigs IMO

arms in the first video I've ever made I'm not a professional youtuber as you can tell I'm making this video on a six-year-old hewlett-packard laptop and the audio really sucked it sounded really tinny like I was talking out of a can so I broke out the old headset to use I'm making this video in response to some friends of Mines questions about 80-percent firearms how they can do it where what do they need do they need a shop what's the best of this and that and that's what this whole channel is gonna be about this chant this this video specifically is going to be about the ar-15 the different jigs the different lowers what I've found works best and why and suppliers that I use and why first off we'll start out by a guest's showing the lower this is an unfinished 80% blank they call them 80% ATF only recognize them as incomplete but this is in a 80% blank the the trigger pocket has not been machined out and there is no trigger hole there's no trigger pin there's no hammer pin there's no safety hole so that's an 80% blank now there's different types there's polymer which I've never used so don't even ask I have never ever used a polymer lower and you can get them pretty cheap problem is the cheap lowers are usually 6061-t6 aluminum is there a problem with it no it the average person probably would not see a problem with a 6061-t6 lower but the 7075 t6 lowers are generally more expensive and there's a reason for that because here let me look at my notes here the t6 is a solution heat treated and then they are artificially aged so they're both they're both heat treated and artificially aged so they're the same they're the differences come with the 7075 t6 has nearly doubled the tensile strength of 6061 it has roughly one point five times the shear strength of 6061 so therefore it's substantially a harder material now the 6061 is easier to mill so it'll be easier for people that aren't comfortable with milling techniques or or don't have a quality router and they're trying to do it with I've seen people doing with Dremel x' and stuff on YouTube which to me is just out there for something your life might depend on but the 7075 t6 is milspec it's what the military recommends for both their upper and lower receivers is 7075 t6 so that's why those are the only only lower as I use our 775 t6 what would you need to get started a place where you could make a big mess basically is where you could make it a time I've made them on my front steps I've made him on my picnic table I've made them everywhere all besides in the house boy won't let me do that so you do not need a shop you do not need a sterile environment you don't need you just need power for obviously a shot back which I'll show you the reason why later and a and for your router and possibly your drill if you don't have a cordless drill anyway let me see here we got wrenches you will also need an Armorer's wrench if you're assembling a lower I have two different ones here they're both the same they have the same features on the same tooling but once thicker and you can see this one actually looks better but if you look down here this is where you would attach your castle nut which is what's gonna hold on your stock it's really thin I don't know how well you can see that but it's really really thin and when I went to tighten the castle nuts you're supposed to tighten them to 45 foot-pounds it would it would slip off and I couldn't get a good bite on it so I bought this one which is substantially thicker and I don't have that problem with it so I mean look the tools you're looking to get and then see the benefits or drawbacks um you want something thick so you can grab ahold of those grooves in that castle nut and get it properly torqued down another thing you needs a cordless drill I would show you but it's put up it's charging right now a cordless drill quartered drill any drill that has a 3/8 chuck would work even a half-inch chuck as long as I can go down to the smallest they can go another thing you'll need is a jig and the best ones out there are the ones that you use routers for I mean there's all kinds of jigs out there you drill a bunch of holes and it's just not professional it doesn't look good it doesn't I you can get them to look good but you have to put so much work and time into them it's it's not worth it and when I talk about time and building an AR or any firearm for that matter it's time how long it takes shouldn't be a factor in your decision because if it's something you're going to enjoy shooting for a long period of time or something your life might eventually or your family's life might eventually depend on does it matter how long it took to build it not really it's just there's so many easier ways to do it then drilling all those holes and I'll show you one of the drawbacks of that one here in a little bit I show you my jig I have this I have went with the 5t tactical router jig Pro and that was recommended by a friend of mine they own a wraith custom firearms he's an awesome guy I was tell him the problems I was having with on Twitter about drilling up my lower and I bought the mill press a Czech kept coming loose and I did say I needed to buy a mill and all this other stuff I tried using a dremel on it like I just got done harassing people about and the 7075 t6 was just so hard it would not I couldn't get anywhere with it I said buy this this is the thing and I bought it on his recommendation I went to their website and it's as yesterday they were - 1999 for the jig and then you have to buy the toolkit the toolkit consists it's right here the toolkit consists of get them out here the three bits you'll need this is for your hammer a new trigger pin this one here this one here is for your safety and then this one here is your guide hole that you do all of your milling out of and then it comes with the end mill that goes in your router and this is a work of art this thing was ingenious whoever came up with this my hat's off to him because that is the way to go and that toolkit is as of yesterday $54.99 and it is absolutely awesome but you need a router you need one of these this is the makita e zero seven zero one Charlie and I got this at Home Depot I shopped around and I got this for 99 bucks at Home Depot go on that what I did was I went on their website and I saw all the compact routers that they had cuz I didn't want a full size router you got to buy the extra router plate for it which they sell but it just seemed like a big hassle having a big huge router on a little jig platform so I got all the numbers for all the contact routers I went to Lowe's they didn't have any of them not one I found this when the Home Depot was on sale for a hundred bucks and this is their number see and it comes with this plate your two your jig will come with this plate for the router you have to order it specific for the router you buy so just because this one's a C and you have the DeWalt which is might be an A you want to make sure you get the proper kit for the router that you bought and don't try and make a shortcut it might not be a good thing and how do they turn out this is an 80% lower I don't know if you can see how tight those are I mean you can see a little bit of shine around that that's where I Deibert it I have a deburring tool but I mean it's there flush there's nice and smooth actions operate flawlessly as nice and crisp inside you can see the workings in there so I mean is it these are not toys these are real real ar-15 firearms and I have hundreds of rounds through this this is an air pistol by the way and tell by the the brace I also got that brace from Wraith custom firearms as well let me see what else can we do about this the different types of jigs we have the 80% arms easy jam jig or easy jig Gentoo there's it is a router router style jig but it's it's not it's so far inferior to this it's it's not even not even funny let me see what can I say about that your router when you router it out you're going to be router about the exact dimensions of of your of your trigger pocket your trigger well because the jig isn't like this one this one there jigs the the blanks it's in the center and you have pins that run and the outsides and so your router never actually touches the surface of the inside of the jig and there's if you make a mistake if you pull it out without it shutting off or I actually had a bit blow-up and I'll explain to you why that happened here in a minute and it can hit your jig and it did on this one you can see the Mar right there where is it right there marred the inside of my jig the bit blew up back in here and the force of it was carried up and as it came out it hit the edge of my edge of my lower and and went right along here and clipped the edge of this now if this would have been at a 80% arms jig that jig would have been permanently scarred you had to replace that top plate or every single every single lower you did from then after wood would have that mark in it now is the 80% arms jig worth buying if you're only gonna build one maybe two yeah it's perfect if you're only build one or two the it's definitely cheaper things less than 100 bucks I haven't checked so don't quote me on that but it's definitely cheaper but it's also cheaper made this the sidewalls on it are very thin you can see how thick these are these are over an inch in I think they're like an inch and 3/8 wide and the ones on the the 80% arms Gen 2 are really narrow and you have to have bolts that actually hold it together down here to keep it stable this thing very very stable it's built like a friggin tank so if you're planning to build more than one possibly two this excuse me this is worth its weight in gold any get a drink now there is another of this style it's made by modulus arms it's called the modulus extreme router Jing and I haven't looked at their price either I think they're probably right about the same as the 5d tactical router jig Pro and a lot of people say that it was an employee from 5d that broke off a modulus that did just slight modifications to it like these are one two three the modulus arms are ABC I mean they did slight modifications to get around the patent and came out with this now why would I recommend this hands down above them even though they're identical I mean they're the same thickness here the same it operates the same it has the same guide system I recommend this for customer call our customer satisfaction customer service shipping on these now because of the pandemic is they asked to make four to eight weeks so I mean it can take a while now because of the pandemic pandemic when I ordered this two years ago it you can see what the where how many have done on it when I heard this two years ago I got it in a week and when I had my problem my bit blew up they contacted me I left my voice I'm I left them my phone number and their voicemail they got back to me within like two hours and we walked talked over what I was doing what I had used it on previous and we came to find out what what happened why the bit did that and I ordered some more bits through them and they were in here they were there within two days and they he immediately got on that shipped him right out to me after after I had submitted my payment information and stuff so and with modulus arms now I hear from people I've seen and comments left on YouTube and other videos I've checked out modulus arms is very very poor on their customer service and there's their shipping takes forever there was a guy who had waited several months and finally had to call and literally complain till they were sick of hearing him complain before he got his his jig shipped him I don't want to have to do that if I'm buying something that I want to make something with so that's why I went with the five Yutaka router jig Pro and this thing I can't tell you the reason why my bit blew up is because I was using the gen one 80% arms dig and I don't know I don't have it anymore I threw it away hey I should be good scrap the aluminum I just threw it away you had to drill like 1415 different holes in the magazine the trigger well or the mat yeah the triggers the trigger group area and then the hell had to be to a certain depth and you either had to go buy gauges to go on it or tape around your your your bit so that you'd go only go down to the right depth because you don't want to go down too far because you'll see here in a second just how them didn't the bottom of these are and that's when I was having problems I told you earlier about you know having to get a drill press and then it breaking that they not going to check out because AG of pressure and fit Chuck it wasn't the bolt in and just all the problems I was having with it and this got recommended to me well I took and put that lower in this jig cleaned it up perfect can't even tell I had used the drill in it before awesome it looks it look spectacular and then the second one I did I had used the same the same bit I mean it camps comes in the kit and I got about halfway through it and that's when the bit just blew up I no warning nothing no chatter it was running perfectly son just BAM and it marred the side of my lower and Martha side of my jig and the reason that happened get Westar I got talking with their customer service tech is these are hard and steel and they're they're very very hard and very shy I mean I've done a lot of since I replaced that bit I've done a lot of lowers of the and that bid is still sharp enough to cut you and it it had taken so much impact from hitting those holes even though I go slow just the impact of that blade hitting all those little holes all the way through that lower from from top to bottom it had to do it that when I got to the second jig it had weakened those blades so much that it just finally let loose and so yeah that that sold me on never ever buying a drilled out lower ever again or our jig where I have to have it drilled out lower what are some other things they can tell you about seeing a finished product I just finished this yesterday this is a actually a machine i milled out sorry for the flash my video really sucks I'm sorry but I don't if you can see how smooth that is in there I mean it's just like a CNC finish and it's actually smooth as silk and you can see the swirls kind you can see him kind on the video on the bottom so you go in small clockwise circular motions with your router and just take your time and another thing is they say in the video and on their instructions you can go there's hash marks on here and you go down you know one hash mark two hash marks three hash marks but I don't do that I actually go half so I'll go down to the number one and I'll come up just a bit because number one is a full hash mark depth so I'll come up just a little bit from one around my first pass and sometimes it leaves a little sometimes it doesn't and then excuse me and then I'll go down to one and then I've got out of one and a half then I'll go down to two and I do it in steps increments and I use a lot of wd-40 you can use cutting fluid you can use or the tap magic any type of fluid to help keep the heat down and keep it lubricated that's probably why I bet stays so sharp is because I only mill a very maybe a sixteenth of an inch at a time if that and just take your time I mean it's not about speed when you're looking at something that's quality my lowers I get from Daytona tactical they're they're not the cheapest but there are very good quality the the anodizing is perfect I mean these are flawless there's not there's not a single flaw and the finish there's it's no sweat no oh that's on there moisture from something but I mean there are absolutely flawless and they're all 7075 t6 and you can buy them in packs you can buy five packs of them I think they got away with in three packs I think it's just single or five packs but I mean if you're building multiples it's a good place to go I think it was two hundred and eighty nine dollars if you included shipping for a four or five pack of their lowers for my uppers I'll show you one here is an AR pistol upper I buy all my uppers from CBC industries just because they have a whole kits and you can't upgrade the kitchen which is the only drawback I've used Daytona tactical uppers my wife's I'm one I got for my wife as I did turn a tactical upper and it has a stainless steel barrel and nickel boride bolt carrier group stuff the upgrades you can't get on CBC they don't have that option right now I wish they would hey if y'all are gonna listen to this put some upgrade traces on there for these yeah you can buy the stainless steel barrels from them you can buy the upgraded bolt carrier groups the titanium nitride the nickel boron excuse me but they're gonna cost extra this right here three hundred and twenty-nine bucks at the at the 300 blackout a air pistol that is not bad continue you have less than six hundred bucks into a air pistol that would sell in the store for over 2,000 I'll do that myself any day so that's that's my spiel on them I'm in there they have their great product their servers they say ship fast I mean it did take just gonna take a little while now with the pandemic and stuff they add at like three weeks to them almost a month but I mean for the price you know and get yourself also let's see what other tools got to talk about oh yeah you need a seven sixty-fourth allen wrench and this is for these little pins that go on your jig and see the pins here these are the number one pin so these are the ones that you'd use first and that will you need this to take these pins in and out and also people say they have a hard time getting these pins to come loose after you've used them I mean it'd have been lubrication there's stuff built up in and keep them cleaned of course but they tend to get stuck and you take this out take your screw out of there and then use the end of this and put a popper it out you don't got to worry about it I mean also number two screwdriver this is as you're milling you're gonna want to tighten all these screws here there's eight of them here to hold these side box on and they're idiot-proof they're staggered bolts so you can't put the the right side one on the left side and the left side one on the right side them if you can't tell flat side out or you don't know your right from your left here you're not gonna miss the screws then you get your front takedown pin where that goes you've got two screws up here and you got two screws that go here with your weight buffer tube screws in and the vacuum attachment I'm there one here no one another thing when you have your jig you have your lower in the jig and we put it in here quick so I can show you I tape off around it it does have a vacuum tube the the buffer the buffer tube that goes in there is a has a lip on it so you can put a vacuum vacuum attachment on it but it doesn't suck all that well I mean once you're past the first couple passes into one it starts leaving more and more and more chips and by the time you're down to two it leaves it piled up and I made a have a little trick here I'll get this installed in here I have a little trick here that I use that cuts down on that I mean I did this one yesterday and he wouldn't believe how little chips I had left over because what I do I'm not tightening everything fully down I'm not gonna done this is already milled if you see in here there's a gap I take blue painters tape and I fold it and I tuck it in there and I stick it to the sides of the jig and to the sides of the the lower and then also up here will you put your put your vacuum hose I take that blue painters tape and I completely cover this whole front section all the way up and at what that increases the vacuum in there and more chips get sucked into the vacuum and don't just go fly-in everywhere I mean it was like literally ten minutes to clean up after I was done using this yesterday it was the fastest I had ever had to clean up on doing an air and let me see that's gonna be pretty much all for now unless you guys have any other questions you can leave them in the comments I'm hoping to do other videos here in the near future on the polymer 80 Glock lowers here's one here you can see it says P 80 on there these are phenomenal I mean if you like the feel of an and then 1911 45 and you don't hate those finger grip holes and that's well that's in a Glock these things are awesome hopefully I can do a video on that soon I also want to do on the 1911 45s the problem with that is I'm I'm like the average person I don't make very much so trying to get this stuff together to build one of those will be quite expensive so we'll see if we can't get one of those in the future I'd like to do an 8k as well because you can do 80% ak's as well but anyways I hope you have a good day hope you actually decide to start building your own lowers they are definitely a lot cheaper they're so much fun to shoot taking something you've made yourself and taking it to range and hitting the targets with it that is just the blast anyways we'll catch you later peace

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Length: 26min 2sec (1562 seconds)

Published: Mon Apr 20 2020