Interior plaster repairs on a ceiling

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Hi guys Kirk and Jason here with Kirk Giordano plastering. let me show you folks today, is sealing repair now somebody stepped through this ceiling. I've done it myself once or twice myself in the past 30 years. What we like to do is try to contain this because, the folks here don't want me to pull the whole ceiling off, and I don't want to pull the whole  ceiling off. so a natural buckle stop point is what I'm hoping is about right here, where I could end up going is  to way over here but I want to try to contain it   right here,   That it's sort of wishful thinking because I   could stick my hand in here it's about four to six  inches down and so what we're going to do is first   is generally, what I'll do is I'll come in and I'll  score it I'll take my knife here now I'll make some lines where I want it to stop. If you're going do this guy, put some glasses on okay, this dust and grime and all the rest of that stuff will get in your eyes, all this is it's kind of like sheetrock, you mark it out. will it stop here? Maybe,  maybe not I can see that this one here is gonna   be about right here, and yes, I've had the ceilings fall on me, as I've been marking these guys, so there's nothing new it doesn't hurt. It just gets you dusty. Here's, I want to contain it, about right to here yeah wear glasses, as this stuff is falling in your  eyeballs, okay, now one little spot right here takes   a little bit of elbow grease. What I'm going  do is, with this whole ceiling generally, I'll have Jayson  up here, I'll say grab this side, and I'll grab  this side so if I grab this is gonna fall, let's see if  I can contain it a little bit. I'm going to gently drop these pieces, this is not sheetrock guys, this is plaster so I'm gonna just drop it on   the plank right here, and then, this one, let's see, it's anybody's guess how much is going to come down. if I were going to drop it on the floor, I do have quite a bit of cushion down there. Again, we don't want to dent the floor, which is hardwood. So I'll just gently place this here, taking this piece off next, and again, can this whole thing fall? absolutely! Have I seen it done? Sure few times, okay that's a lot of good points right there to  hold that heavy piece up drop this down. I don't want to make too much of a mess for us here I'm hoping it stops, where I scored it and sure   enough it did. After I pull this off Jason and  I am going to prep this, I'm gonna hit it with   a bonding agent. because I want these which are keys now our stucco will mushroom through those and that's how it adheres, it keys   on so through the lath here, these openings are what we call, in the trade keys. so it's my new plaster is   going to go through these keys mushroom on top and that's how the plaster it's going to be held. I'm gonna   paint Larsons, Plaster Weld to this area with that bonding agent. That way it gets rid of dust, that's because when I start to plaster if there's a lot of dust it won't adhere. Anyhow I'm going to continue taking this  off Jay, hates it when I do this dusty stuff with his camera lens so, in about a half-hour, we'll go  ahead and show you how we put it back together.   After I remove a little bit more, I am  taking off all I want to take off and remember, I   told you these were keys now my new  plaster is going to go through this opening and   mushrooming back and that's how it keys some areas. like this tap it just gently and get your head out   from under it, all you do is just barely tap  it, if you hit it too hard what happens? You loosen up everything else around here, so you don't want to do that I've already taken off everything   I wanted to. it was just about what I thought, so this is all I'm gonna do now guys, and then we're going to wire brush this apply plaster weld, to it, and get busy with the actual applications of replastering it okay guys. Oh, Kurt says go-ahead and just I'm basically scoring it plus I'm getting off any got that way my neck, my bonding agent will adhere leaving it better. I'm brushing on the plaster weld. There are a lot of products out there. I just like to use, "Plaster Weld" you folks can buy   any boding agent you want. We go around the perimeter and we're getting rid of the dust that's what  I want to get rid of the dust. Plus give it some extra adherence, not only will it key in but it'll stick to this, "Plaster Weld." Hey guys, they brought up an interesting point. That point is when they built these and applied the wood lath originally they didn't use any bonding agent,   because it was clean wood. if it's clean it has no dust. I'm using the bonding agent around here   because I want to kill some of that dust and I'm  using a twenty-minute mud now this twenty-minute   mud means you've got 20 minutes to put it on.  Before it starts to harden and if it's a bad   mix or a dirty bucket at a harden in five minutes.  By the way, what I'm doing is, I'm going to do the   interior perimeter first because that's what I  want to harden okay we do the perimeter first get in their guys, oh well take it to the whole  perimeter like this, but you guys get the idea once   the perimeter is done this drywall compound will be pretty much hard. Then Jayson can mix up some new stuff.   We kind of I push it in just like that, I put  it on here and then I pulled back, into it that.   Gives me a good bond, do that push it in  their herd, we're gonna continue doing this all   the way around the perimeter and then we work our way inside the perimeter. Now that I have   that perimeter I'm going inward and what I'm doing  is, just how I did, I'm pushing it there, and I'm   really pushing it in that key where the brake is there, push it in there real hard that way it holds the rest of it on, push it in there. I could feel this mud getting hard already  because it's. 20-minute mud, but it's going against  dry wood lath, so it's drying it out real fas.  Anyway, we're getting there. Jason's going to get ready to mix another bucket then we will proceed. We have gone over the perimeter twice now, the mud is already getting stiff, it's pretty hard, I don't want to let it get too hard, because at the end I'm going I'm  going to go ahead and fill the inside now but at the   end I'm gonna coat everything real fine because this is what we call an orange peel look. So when   I'm done with everything but take a heavy roller  dip it in water and just give it that orange peel   look by the way guys if anybody says gee whiz, Kirk,  where do you buy it? I mean they're in a fast set 20   minute mud, they've got this West Side they got  at Home Depot they got it at Lowe's and it's not   all that exact same compound, but that's okay, I'm not really partial to any one particular brand anyway. So   now we're going to go ahead and do the inside of  this guy here and so saying the system is just a   lot easier now. My joints are done  back and forth all I'm doing is just getting a   scratch coat on here and no we don't have to put  a scratch marks in it either, all we got to do is   make it adhere on the other side of these would last and that will adhere it. Okay so same thing guys I'm gonna continue with this mud that Jason just mixed, this is it's pretty soupy just the   the way I like it. Okay, we're putting our  second coat on here now we can't really rush this   stuff so I like to do is we're gonna put this on  right here and then take a 10-minute 15-minute   break to allow this to set up. By the way, guys, I'm using a drywall compound. This stuff here is not like sand and cement. You can't do this with sand and cement. Anyhow, couple more strokes that will be done with this bucket, and we're gonna give it about 15 minutes, then go have a snack. I had a fella email me and say, Kirk, I'm doing a ceiling. Do I need that Darby you use for outside? No, you don't need this; I'll tell you why  because this ceiling, if you're up here, it's   a wavy ceiling they did this 100 years ago we're  in a Victorian home, this ceiling has got so many   waves up here you get seasick if you look at it.  It's just wavy so you don't need that another   thing to. Okay, Jason just mix me up this last batch of  mud and I'm going to go ahead and put that second coat on here's what we do guys now by the way  that's hard we just took a 10-minute break and   had a banana and a cup of coffee, and that's hard. now.  We put this next coat on it and smooth it out by   the way, to guys, when I looked at the ceiling  The first thing I had to find out, is if there's   insulation in that attic because if I remove it  and a hundred years ago they used to just shoot   that stuff in or it didn't use to be like the stuff with the paperback. So if it had insulation   up there I would have had to say well we got a to vacuum that stuff out, otherwise when I remove it   it's just going to fall on me. Oops too late. Shit happens we have a pile on the floor of the insulation so any way we still got   lucky there wasn't much up there, although I still  have got all over me, let's see now guys what I'm   doing is I'm gonna show you this whole thing out  and then when I get to that stage which is gonna   take me about 15 minutes, I'll show you how we  match this texture. Okay guys a minute ago, I said this wall was or ceiling was somewhat wavy  that's what we're matching that being said what   we don't want is a concaved ceiling here, we wanted to match this from that side   we don't want to hump we want it to flow gently  and have some gentle slopes like the rest of it. So that's what I'm doing right here and this is  going to have to set again for about, oh I would say 15 minutes. In that way, I can put my texture in it all right guys just when you think man that looks easy I think I can do it, I'll show you all a few more things that are still necessary.  In order to get this one of the things is, I take  my float now with a little bit of water and I'm using a new float that's not all full of sand and grit, I'll go over the perimeter, to get the joints in, after we got the joints in there's another thing this part is actually more difficult than trowling and takes longer to learn than the rest of everything   I've done okay now take this float and get those  lines out get those lines outcome here the more   the water you have on this float more they'll come out  I'm kind of getting kind of dry there so I'm gonna   keep it back, in this water again guys, this part  takes time to get the marks out of there, and   plus, I'm wetting it too, because I'm bringing it back to life, meaning, if I hit it with water. Let me show you, something guys. If I hit it too soon, what will happen. Okay, I hit it too soon. It could take the texture right off.  But what about ready for it, okay so I'm gonna go   ahead and set this little wet guy down and finish  float and everything and it's this is about ready   perfect time to hit it with the roller and again  I'm just all I'm doing is I'm putting this on its   flat edge and getting some of my trowel marks out  and besides putting it on the flat edge to get the   trowel marks out I'm checking the consistency  of the plaster itself let's add a minute ago.   this part takes a lot more practice than any  another aspect of doing this so I'm checking it   basically, if it's too stiff, that roller will  do no good if it's just coming off everywhere   then the roller will sink in and won't give it  that texture that I want. so I'm prepping it rapidly, getting it right to where I know it's about  right and I need a little bit of mud I still have   some on that bucket. Okay if you got any holidays no worries, the float will get rid of them, and we're about ready to use that role, now and just give it that orange peel look okay   that's done now I take this, I want to dip  it in a little water, I don't want it too heavy   where it's falling it all over the place and  the fat or the roller guys the better off you   are a little cheap roller won't give you any  texture, I need one of those ten-dollar fluffy   ones this one has actually been used a few times, but it'll work. This is all we do, guys we go   over it with the water. The camera is probably not  going to show this but what I'm getting is get an   orange peel look now this way when they go to  paint it, it will match, you know everything you did   is groovy. but it's too smooth the rest of  the wall is kind of dimpled like an orange peel so that's what we do right here I can look at  it right here and get what I know will   match theirs anyway guys that's how you do  a ceiling repair and the easier the smaller the   hole obviously the easier it is to do the repair  I'm gonna I've got another 10 minutes here but I   won't bore you with the details I got a couple  little Chow marks and things to still get out   but you get the idea what I'm saying anyway  guys my name is Kirk I'm with Kirk Giordano   plastering as usual Jason and I thank you for  watching, and we will see you guys on the   next fix. By the way, guys if you like what we do  Click below subscribe if you want to see anything just write down say, Kirk, show me how to do  this or that, as it's got to do with   plaster and their stucco we'll show it to you  thank you and again we'll see on the next one you
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Channel: Kirk Giordano plastering Inc.
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Keywords: Repairing interior plaster on a failing ceiling, Interior living room plaster ceiling falling down, Common causes of a buckling ceiling, Fix plaster on a ceiling falling down, Ceiling Repairs, Ceiling plaster failures, What causes plaster to fall off ceiling, Can you use patching plaster on ceiling, How do you fix a sagging roof with plaster
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Length: 17min 31sec (1051 seconds)
Published: Tue Jun 11 2013
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