Super Mario Series Warpless Relay Race in 2:47:12 - SGDQ2017 - Part 122

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acres let you dance he just sauce we took about ten minutes to walk over here and really we want to get more info idea bloody because I was insane I'm gonna immediately just jump right into a social media question because I love this question so first of all from Cerf Murph bloody just how how much work does this talk I mean I've been playing the game casually for like probably 10 years or so now like ever since the game came out then just just lots of dedication lots of practice just constantly pushing yourself like hey I might be like 1st place in this category but like there's still two minutes of time save I have to like keep trying I have to keep pushing myself I really it's amazing to see with the game having been out even the original king mark suit being after 11 years now how we're still every day finding new strats all over the place all the optimization crazy last 12 months we've just now seen the berserk charge strats you just use yeah I mean how much work was just sick bar insolvent alone never saw at the end I learned that originally on the PlayStation 2 version and I think the frame window is even tighter and you have to use even more duct flare because it's not nearly as good so the first like I started practicing that and then I think maybe a month and a half later I got like my first perfect fight Wow it was it was a lot of a lot of failure and a lot of grinding to actually get it down really well I want to know when you have a run that's orangy manipulated like data org is nowadays right and it goes off the rails how do you kind of prepare for that day did you do a lot of runs where you specifically let the rng manipulation break in order to practice so do you rely on some older just information that you've known from previous years of running right yeah sometimes sometimes I would just like let it go and just keep to keep going with the fight and just see what would happen but a lot of it is just experience with the fight just like I said I've been playing this game casually for a long long time so the data orgs like even I know like the very basic mechanics of what I need to do to actually beat the fight even if it goes wrong yeah it was cool to see even though the RNG manipulation was broken immediately I'm sure that was heartbreaking for you you always win it was a lot of that good run but I love seeing a runner in that moment have to say alright it's done yes we're not in the past anymore we keep moving forward having to improvise this one of the craziest things in speedrunning I think it's really where you get to see the skill of the runner way past just muscle memory right very very cool well we've got another social media question gonna let spike take this one sure from JC 4273 what's your favorite cage hey let's see J answer this what's your favorite cage game and what's your favorite Keyblade from that game that's we start with you favorite cakes game cage to definitely still to FM and favorite keep away from that game I've never felt happier than I have using that Keyblade it's a shame that it sucks so much great sound effects kingdom hearts 2 final mix for me for sure just the the final mix version like added so much it's just definitely my favorite favorite Keyblade probably surprises would surprise you because like I'm such a hardcore speedrunner I love Ultima weapon dude it's like sure it's like the pearls looks amazing it's like the perfect casual blade dude and it just looks cool the sound effects are really really good you usually don't use it because there are better key blades out there but it's probably like got a you know warm spot in here sure I'm gonna shower swoosh up let's say Kingdom Hearts 1 I actually love Kingdom Hearts 1 quite a bit probably gone back to have spear anymore and you know it's one key way that we actually never used the speedruns is too long I always thought the Pumpkinhead Keyblade was really cool as the key yeah it's probably kini Mart's one final mix for me too although I kid I would I think I would have said kh2 I think I really enjoyed the combat in that but I think Kingdom Arts one for me now and I like the Olympia Keyblade man it's this big fat key I'm with you dude it's so good yeah it's pretty strong for a long time it's just a really cool I love it shall we do another social media question here from Team skull thg what's your favorite organization 13 member to fight what's the most satisfying fight you pull off I think I think Roxas Roxas feel I remember you said about two years ago with all the new strats we've shifted almost it's it's it's still really insane yeah it's definitely definitely one of my most favorite fights in the entire game really cool one now how did it feel I'm even before the social media I wanna ask you how did it feel knowing that there was that one point in the hdq 2015 run where he took a death on xemnas one threat but I'm jumping up just slightly getting an angle wrong that's right that you were just trying and then nailing it here as you're kind of Redemption what do you think I didn't honestly I didn't really feel much Redemption it was just it because immediately after that run and in 2015 I just like went back and I took a few days and I did the fight correctly and I've been doing affect correctly for so many months so now it's just to the point where it's literally just muscle memory like that's exactly what's supposed to happen like I didn't yeah I mean I could see like you know being torn up about that being the only death in that one run rusher but I think I've gotten yes I've gone beyond that for sure yeah you handled it all very well I thought even through some of the deaths so people can forget get desensitized with how easy it is to die in that game no yeah now I want to have another question just for the four of us here get your us to pick a different game they're cool each of us have a different answer for this give me one category if I want to get into keynote speaker and each of us take a different one one category that you would recommend people get into first for Kingdom Hearts 2 what's the most beginner friendlier ones you like I mean if we're if we're focusing on let's say Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 either either just beginner any percent I think it's show solid just in terms of less having west risk of death and there are a lot of fundamentals that you can carry over into something like proud mode and cage 1 or critical mode in cage two that make both really fun interesting to run two very different ways but like beginner is definitely starting point but we have people that start with that org you know as their very first thing so sure you can really do what you want I wouldn't recommend that but has courage you have to be well do the hardest possible thing so let's uh why don't we bounce mix it up I mean I'm gonna do I'm gonna say Kingdom Hearts one destiny islands level one battle are you kidding me man this is a category my very first run of it took three hours and then it goes down to a form in category it's out ridiculously difficult it is so I'm just gonna say well I mean he took he took 1fm beginner so go run that a it also takes two seconds to make a file it takes seven minutes you got to get up to like the first save point BAM you got a vile bloody for you um I would probably agree with Dax 1fm beginner is probably what I would I think it's the best just because due to length and just like the strats themselves aren't necessarily hard but it's like the consistency and staying on point and dealing with the the random elements in the short lorry it's it's a perfect category that's like easy to learn hard to master right so it's easy to get into but if you want to get serious about it then it's like the perfect challenge for you right how about you show some of the team horns - I've gotta jumped off a little bit here but yeah he wants to beginner I think across any of the categories really want to pick up the original cage - all you want to do final mix the import you want a new ps4 version you're in three hours gonna be able to get a run that has so much depth to it and it's so satisfiying evolve every single fight you might say oh nice crib it's still satisfied you don't know amazing to see how all these different techniques and tools are gonna be linked together Kingdom Hearts - beginner is probably one of the most underrepresented categories out there by far absolutely very hard I want to direct my next question at Dax actually now we've obviously watched a lot of Kingdom Hearts runs you know watch people's streams all the time and stuff but sitting here live on stage watching it as the instead make you want to come back make you want to come back and like run the categories more I mean I got a life dude I can't be spending four hours of run you know as much as I want to because I really do absolutely up the series stuff but that is why I spent again it if you don't have the time and you but you do have the time to have short little practice sessions and commit that sort of thing and you also might be will use practically everything you have in a short amount of time data or as a very fun very hard but very fun run so I actually did a lot of data I still mess around with it a lot of the time I could jump on I can practice and I could do these short 30-minute runs and there's also we have a which is super 5 minutes so there are other ways to know probably top three just seems to be by far and I agree I'm gonna go ahead and take the next one Aladin light know there would be so many times in my childhood where I remember just like taking the VHS watching a Latin rewinding it just walk over and over through like three days for sure got us to rewinding by the way to the heads now what that means anymore is VHS I got to go with Lion King man Lion King so good so good I definitely grew up with that and let's cut James Earl Jones in it yeah I have a huge soft spot for lilo and stitch a little incision yeah it's uh I want this good all right we got another one from superb King z24 why should people learn kingdom hearts 2 final mix instead of any other cage game or even in any other game in general show what get what is it about 2fm that you love give me your pinch it's it's a crazy action RPG with a lot of depth and its really responsive really fun just just doesn't as a game it's just so solid and well built well and then when you get to the speedrun aspect of it it almost just makes it even sweeter just to like know that wow this all works really well together and it's really well balanced out to the point where maybe in another RPG you would find one mechanic that just kind of defeats every single boss and you just use it for everything but it's pretty well balanced out in kingdom hearts 2 final mix you're using a lot of stuff and there's a lot of creativity a lot of how powerful we saw oh yeah you know duck flare to be in this version the player is like amazing in this version but there's still tsundere go in press a button for the player and it kills the ball oh so many different setups so many different things you have to understand that you can't just like go up to SiC bar and be like I'm gonna press the duck flare button and just kill it like nothing there's a lot more to it you got to be decent at the game to know how to use these tools guys are in setup for the Super Mario Brothers relay right now the 2d Relater going across spy ends got a lot of people were setting up over there right now I just want to break away a little bit from Kingdom Hearts 2 just ask each of you guys outside of Kingdom Hearts because we have established where all Kingdom Hearts nerds right what are your favourite types of speakings what do you like to run outside of these Oh blood sure jab well for Kingdom Hearts that came from a sonic background I'm still very much invested in that so I'm mostly a sonic o6 runner and but generations is definitely personal favor unleashing generations what watch.watch sonic unleashed all date stages just just watch it by the top right is fine people like Josh McElveen all those guys find them watch them it's one of the most incredible Speed games in my opinion might be like the most underappreciated Russia it's a very underappreciated it's a very unappreciated game and yeah like a lot of the sonic communities has been just super welcoming in the last few years it's kind of like I started on so that that a lot of the sonic games in the variety that they had different moments of them really kind of keep me coming back to them and just a lot of cool guys in there absolutely bloody one um I think secretly when I first like even knew of the existence of speedrunning I fell in love with like free Zelda games like ocarina of time yeah I did and like a little bit of like bingo and ocarina of time just like it's crazy just seemed like how broken a game can get I'm sure so I just kind of have a soft spot in my heart for those games I love Metroidvania smen Metroidvania games are like built for speedrunning because they give you such a an instant goal right the whole entire point of Metroidvania is if you don't know is everything is more or less successful to you except you don't have the powers to get into different places and they save the better powers for the end and so for a speedrunner that's like alright how can i get the better powers before the end it's built to be broken and happen so great involve so many interesting just routing techniques ways of different ways of thinking about what a game is for you and so with that I guess they worry in the blind forest is a big one for me too specifically but Metro Metroidvania is in general and I'm just gonna say in general I love platformers 2d 3d probably more drawn to 2d platformer but uh you know I'm looking forward to Sonic mania come out I'll say that without it love the dot-com country games Iranian games Mario games I'll take any of them it's like it's fun to move from the left side screen to the right side of the screen I'm gonna take it once again we are set up for that Mario relate I want to shift the camera a little bit over this way yeah because again perpetually off screen is set it's been weird I don't know I don't know how you always do it do you ever sleep no I just live back here actually yeah I get a little bit it's great oh that's what this pillows now I understand anyone sent what do you have for us because I know it's a lot and I know it's great oh I certainly do I have some cool stuff but real quick I do want to go back to one of the Twitter questions you guys asked to just say I can't believe nobody said lilo and stitch for favorites is no it's a bit hard to hear each other folks anyway guys we definitely have some really cool prizes coming up I know everyone's been waiting for the Mario relay you got some cool stuff for it first off from the nerd city we have this great little cross stitch of smb3 I'm sure a lot of people could tell exactly where that is at 1-1 I'm sure a lot of people have died to that exact fireball next up here that is awesome from a game bit we hit this awesome just give Reedy SMW parlor it was really cool it's definitely a different take on a 3d parlor than I've ever seen done before it's just it's it's so sweet I love it and you know what the back I'm put this in my item slot I might need this one later I just want to know how that works I'm gonna spoil the man who's just there's little slots in the base do you know eight bits so if we head out here on the table we have a really cool mario pixel quilt crocheted to us by Sherry shish that's a leave a twenty dollar minimum during the relay definitely a cool quilt keep someone warm during the wedding maybe stomp on some goombas for you who knows yeah again alright but a final here I have something pretty special for you I could tell you were holding and holding back a little I've been holding back a little now okay get it show us the big guns no I I will we definitely have some you know pretty cool things some pretty valuable things GDQ throughout the years but this might actually be one of the craziest prizes we've ever been able to display so inside this lovely leather case here let's pop it open we have this amazing Nile Black Swan luxury watch now these are handmade this is old-time craftsmanship and it's best of the watch and you know I know normally we like to have fun we like to joke around but really I got to share the story of how this came to be so I got in touch a few months ago with a really awesome guy called David Howe and he told me a story that I've heard a lot of times through donations in fact it's pretty much a meme now you know hey longtime viewer first-time donor just you know I was a poor college student couldn't really do anything throughout my college and apprenticeship but twice a year I loved watching gdq and recently he got hired at Nile watches luxury watch company out in the Midwest and you know hey he's like hey they gave me a company watch I want to give it to you guys but you know what what you took it a step further because not only do we have the watch we have it custom engraved this watch has the logos above NSF and GDQ alongside a beautiful pattern that resembles the sheikah slate from breath of the wild what this is I mean this is this is a one-of-a-kind watch truly that's unbelievable and can we even guess what the value yeah I'd like to hear you guess the value let's let's go for it two hundred milli alright alright bring it down ok we're down $100 $1,500 so the watch is valued before the engraving at about 4000 thousand dollars it's a pretty impressive watch but if you guys would like to have a chance to win this amazing watch it's going to be $200 and I know that's a lot I see some people kind of well that much when it's a $4,000 it's a pretty good draw it's $200 cumulative from now until the end of the marathon so guys get those donations in for all these awesome prizes get your donations in for all the awesome stuff that's happening tomorrow and hey you know what that $200 also gets you in for the amazing Corsair PC we're running as a grand prize I thought that was gonna be the big thing man well she's like that is it's it's amazing anyway you know guys it's it's always great to be here thank you so much Mike Jacobs for that wonderful interview you know thank you so much - a bloody biscuit for that amazing Kingdom Hearts rounded axe for the excellent commentary that was that was definitely great guys can we get one more round of applause for the awesome Kingdom Hearts run we just saw in data org that was crazy yeah yeah the runners sweet [Applause] alright and with that I'm we have Jay Hobbs spike and bloody biscuit Dax we're gonna throw it back to the host as we get ready for the Super Mario series relay stay tuned guys get hype it's gonna be crazy whoa welcome back guys we are still on our way getting ready I'm gonna read a couple donations letting it go through we have a five dollar donation from our Allah says amazing run from both Bibi and the couch thanks for a great week a $50 donation from frothing-slosh that says we can do it as gdq nine hundred thousand ten dollars from heath 194 this is doing my part to donate for the nine hundred k let's make cloud i mean spike vegeta proud forty five dollars from suavo that says super pumped for the super mario relay let's get that nine hundred K before the end of Kingdom Hearts and has always killed the animals not quite there at eight seventy four right now but we're getting closer I'm hoping we can get there $10 from ten so that says okay okay here's $10 more take my money for nine hundred K we have a forty five hundred dollar donation saying thank you to all the generous donors and incredible runners I've seen firsthand the great need there is in the world for amazing organizations like Doctors Without Borders and I'm so proud that a community of Awesome nerds can make such an impact thank you all thank you for that donation Jack I appreciate it we got our 250 dollar donation from blitz eights 1981 $150 donation from anonymous hey oh my gosh there's a lot of no messages $150 from anonymous $150 from Riley 94 thank you guys I know you guys didn't say anything but your donation obviously says everything so thank you $30 from Gilbert that says let's hit 1 million by the end of today $200 from anonymous that says Kingdom Hearts has always been one of my favorite series so I had to be the first time donated for such a good cause during it best of luck on the run my work will be matching this la that's nice $40 from crocodile the Lea that's how you pronounce it's very weird when an amazing hostess glad to donate during one of my favorite franchises shout outs to Aaden and kelan for being Buster's and have fun pronouncing my name hopefully I did that right 100 dollars from anonymous that just simply says thanks got 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the frames we have $100 donation from de Kula sane dude mario swing your arms from side to side come on it's time now go dude the mario haven't watched that show in ages alright guys this is the moment you've been waiting for it's time for the Super Mario series relay race [Music] well welcome everybody to the 2d warpless mario relay if the stop is ready for us we can go ahead and get started pretty soon all right I'm gonna count it down to five you guys like to join me they'd be fine so in five alright well to start off with we have our three teams here we have team we have team Berto we have team boom boom and we have team Reznor up for team Berto we have mr. cab 55 for Team boom boom we have lackattack 24 and 14 Reznor we have cosmic d12 yep and yeah we could do a quick roll call I'm John Carl's I am representing team Berto who's representing team Berto boom boom also the winning team not so much I'm skybilz I'm representing team raspberry y'all better make me proud let's hear you scream so you'll notice right away some differences in strats going on here you'll notice that mister cab is using a large fire Mario whereas lackattack and cosmic are still small Mario that will change a little bit later though previous to sgdq lackattack used to always use small mario for earth fire mario for this category but over preparations for sgdq while he was here he learned small fire Mario's who were actually very fortunate to be able to see all three strats on display you're gonna see cosmic D using small Mario he definitely is probably at least for this game the favorite to win he has the much strong stronger PB despite using much more difficult strats but the small fire Mario is a compromise between just losing a little bit of time at the same time saving time by having fire and having the safety of being smaller and you're gonna see that at the end of one for some weird things are gonna happen pretty soon yeah it's pretty interesting throughout this whole relay you're gonna get to see a showcase of several different types of strategies for beating these games warpless and a lot of it comes down to player comfort especially in a no reset situation like a marathon like this so it's gonna be really interesting to see the risky strats forces may be some safer strats all right so what you just saw lackattack do here is set up for a small fire and what that means is he's now in a glitch state where the next two power-ups he gets is going to put him in fire mario state while still being small mario you're gonna see that come up here the big difference in the time so far that you're seeing here is that both runners lackattack and mister cab actually had to slow down to get power-ups whereas cosmyk was able to press through world 1 the advantage of being small mario in this glitch state is that you get to keep the small hitbox that you'd normally have with small mario but you get to use the powerup of having fireballs which helps in two ways it helps you clear out enemies and stages and it also helps you kill the bowser fights faster the animation for the bridge does not occur when you kill Bowser with the or Koopa with the fireballs yeah and don't let the um strange animation fool you whenever lackattack shoots this fireball you see his sprite kind of go back into the large fire Mario state that his hitbox actually doesn't match that so he's actually safe the whole time and speaking of hitboxes the hitbox is particularly on the prowl no plants are much more generous in this game that in the Super Nintendo version so if it looks like any of these players are getting close to a piranha plant they're really not going to take a hit the hitboxes are very generous in this version yeah some of the players in Super Mario 2 Lost Levels have decided to use the zest version there's a lot of different reasons to choose one version over another but we're going to see one of the runners using the Famicom disk system and two of owners using snus and one of the big differences between those two versions is the fact that in the siness for those piranha plant hitboxes have been fixed which means that if you want to make them over with any speed you have to take a different approach than just the normal jumping over them that you see often with some of these Ness versions okay out there blues so the most commonly asked question in darbian stream when he's finding this game why do they hit the top of the flagpole instead of the bottom what's the deal all right so the thing about this game is is that you have to wait on the flag to come down in any case but what's important to note is that what actually makes the difference between hanging the top of the flagpole on the bottom of the flagpole is if you actually hit the top of the flagpole Mario jumps off the side of the flag without touching the block and for for for whatever reason when Mario is in the air backwards he actually accelerates faster which allows you to get to the castle a few frames earlier and in some stages that can make the difference between making the earlier frame rule for anyone who's not familiar Super Mario won Super Mario Brothers won and Super Mario Brothers to Lost Levels both operate on what people refer to as a frame rule which means that unless you can beat the stage 21 frames faster you can't really save any time the game is sort of locked to these 21 frame cycles yeah Darby and professional analogy giver actually explains it as a bus waiting for you every twenty-one frames at the end of the level and so it doesn't really matter how many frames you gain or lose as long as you make that frame rule or that bus schedule so all these runners are doing Oh death by cosmic on one of the hammer brothers and three one that's going to put mister cab in the lead and lackattack slightly behind him yeah the big difference that you're seeing between runners so far aside from from small mistakes the big difference is you're seeing is just the number of power-ups that are necessary in order to get into this state mister cab need to pick up two power-ups which costs whatever time you had to slow down for them in addition to the actual power of time whereas lackattack actually had to pick up three power-ups of course the run and you see right there the risk of doing the small Mario strat and the marathon versus doing this other small fire fire Mario or a fire Mario strat is that the margin for air is a lot thinner in terms of taking damage now at the end of these stages you'll notice that the players want to buffer their time fireworks on 1/6 3 or 1 you want to avoid those so we're gonna see those numbers being avoided in this yeah though one firework doesn't actually end up losing any time but the six and the three can be quite costly especially if you're anticipating game specific frame rules for players who are really confident in their skills and who have played this game for a long time and can play consistently a lot of times one of the reasons why the randomness of some of the more difficult stages that we'll see later in the run don't actually cost quite as many problems is because of the fact that if you can guarantee that you've gotten the same frame rolls you tend to get the same patterns from enemies mister cab going into three floor cosmics made up some time as well castle 3/4 is a very challenging castle between the fire fire bar patterns and the very low pota booze that jump out of the lava this can be a very difficult stage to do quickly especially with a larger hitbox like mr. cab is dealing with and right there you can see why fire strats are faster just being able to get over that bridge quickly having no issue with Rajee there another reason why the frame rules can be important is that uh in the different castles there are these fire bars and photo booths and some of those can be on set schedules sometimes even losing frame rules can be optimal for setting the fire bars in the castles a certain way another interesting thing about Mario 1 that a lot of people will notice if they're new to the run is how tight these jumps look as you jump over the piranha plant the Piranha Plants actually don't have hit boxes in the top part of the plant only at the stem so you're able to jump through those that's something you cannot do in the Super Mario all-stars version and that'll be a difference that you will see when we come to 2j when one one team is going to be playing on on all-stars in one on Famicom disk system all right so we see mr. Cobb going into for two earlier this stage obviously famous at any percent for the most difficult trick in the game but we get to skip over that here which is nice it's nice to see sort of the variety of strats when you see a lot of runners sometimes opt to choose taking the top of the stage if you can move efficiently it's not actually that difficult to get on top of the stage the only time you really lose is falling back down the shaft of the elevator at the very end that you need to come down so it you know you see the top runners and you see that they actually play the stage out but it's quite a bit safer to go above and you don't really lose a bit very much time lack it cosmic only about a second between them still a very very tight race so this is probably the point in the warpless run where the game kind of ramps up the difficulty right after world four and during world 5 is where a lot of the more difficult parts the runs started now the castles have always been a little bit difficult but the stages are gonna ramp up quite a bit and you're gonna see that coming up pretty soon [Music] also the most important and impressive part of this run is that this isn't even Mario's full-time job so it's just a hobby for him so heading into for for this is our first puzzle castle if you do not take the right route you have to perform that part of the castle again so really important to know where you're going yeah it loops if you take the wrong path for the stage now mr. Cobb actually had to slow down for the fire bar in 4/4 and he's gonna have a special challenge trying to take out the Bowser with a fireball that was actually a good recovery hit recovery the Bowser in 4/4 can be one of the most difficult ones now both lackattack and cosmic didn't have to slow down for that fire bar in 4/4 because they were small lactic handled that Bowser perfectly [Applause] we have $100 donation from bear man that says save the humans kill the animals go team bird oh yeah that was excellent on mr. caps part it's very difficult to it's very easy with just a small mistake if you have to slow down at any point you end up with a 6 on the clock you're actually fighting against time to get the 7 so what are the stakes for this race what are the stakes for the yes well I heard that the runner's choice donations have something to do with them well whatever team wins I think gets all of the runners choice donations for the whole race is that right yeah and it goes toward whatever that team has decided on do you know what your team decided on we are gonna do save the animals yeah skybilz do you know what your team's turn for though we have chosen to kill the animals and save those frames I believe my team has all fuzzy photos from earthbound I think that was a value get it wrong no you did oh just shaking my head at you and disgust that's all but I was a side wager going on here isn't there there may be a side wager going on so heading into five three these bullet bills are random makes the route just a little complicated for these runners the stage actually presents quite a few challenges because of the bullet bills and the concentration of enemies this is basically just one three but with random fireballs or with random bullet bills but because of all the bullet bills that are there if you don't kill the enemies in just the right way you can actually end up with some necessary platforms despawning making it impossible to beat the levels so so often sky you both have played all of these games a number of times especially in the warpless relays what would you say is the difference between the physics that we'll see throughout this series starting from one and going all the way to worlds well one in two J are very similar there's a lot of there there are differences so if you talk to speedrunners about the differences between one and two J there are some notable ones bounce heights off of enemies for instance and and definitely when you get into issues with whether or not you want to play with Mario or Luigi for the purposes of this race I think all runners are using Mario but it definitely changes quite a lot when you get into some of the later games so to us is very similar to one in the respect that there's basically one running speed once you get running speed you're at max speed and that's what you've got to work with with some small differences with smb3 there's an actual P meter and the pee meter controls whether or not you get running speed and controlling it can be quite a challenge but I think these runners are up to it and then Super Mario World kind of borrowed from smb3 in that regard there's a pee meter as well it's not shown on screen but controlling it's a lot easier I think those Mario World runners would agree yeah and six two is a really nice stage to have fire flower for you can see how much easier that is getting through all of those different pipe jumps the Washington a microcosmic play booth I mean it's keeping it fresh six-two is already challenging enough stage we all want death right at the end of six - this is already a challenging enough stage with a power up doing it small Mario only is infinitely we have a $50 donation from mr. calves little sister woo saying go team Berto notice all the donations are 14 per dose seems like a smart decision of Maine so how about we make a wager on this I think we already did okay what is that wager so whichever of our teams beats the other one that person has to speedrun a game of the other person's choosing okay so if you guys have any terrible games you want authorblues to speedrun worse than the normal ones iran's you know sweet at me cuz you're going down look at my boy mr. cap just holding it down fresh well no I think that there's still a lot of run left you know it's really a testament to cosmic still skill in this category of absolutely even with some of the issues that he's have he's literally right behind these guys yeah with two deaths being one level behind is incredibly impressive it's the risk you take of doing the small mario strats in a marathon-- it's it's riskier but he's definitely got the best TV of these runners and Skillman ma'am [Applause] black only a couple seconds behind mr. Kyle was alone yeah lack of a choice to slow down a little bit at the top of the stairs there you saw that if he had jumped off he was gonna get the 3 on the clock which would have earned him three fireworks as we mentioned before it only loses a small amount of time to get three fireworks but it lost less time for him to slow down at the top of the stairs that's why you chose to do about this so you're saying lag is not very patriotic is what you're saying that's that's probably what I'm going okay now are any of these runners going to be shrinking their hitbox as they're swimming in these levels I haven't specifically seen mr. cap going for that but I don't know he might have been but he would be the only one who would really be affected by them so mr. cap losing power up in 72 - and a good job of recovering and kiting those bloopers over so that he can stay alive first time he's lost a powerup all run which is really impressive for for a large hitbox fire Mario that's a special challenge just holding on to it for the whole run he still has an opportunity in 73 if he wants to to get a mushroom that would definitely help him quite a lot basically evens up black and mr. cap now if the initial frame roll is lost some of these patterns in the water can be very interesting especially without fires so for all intents and purposes orangey here yeah there's there's not a lot of patterns in this game that are completely impossible to navigate at full speed but man with with some of the patterns you can get if you're not it can often though I want to go into a risky going into that pipe and just went past the blooper is a bold man [Music] we have a $237 donation from eft that says young boys be 30 year old games fast for charity month ago for our team Rezanov what okay so this is our second puzzle castle of the game may not seem obvious why they're choosing the route through the platforms that they are but they are hitting specific triggers in order to prevent the the level from looping that's basically what's happening here yeah it's basically a puzzle stage and the game expects you to keep looping over and over again until you can figure out the exact right path when are can I first started learning puzzle classes especially in the Lost Levels I asked him how do you know the routes are here I'll told me just take the worst possible path here here so I think going into world 8 now is about the time to mention the way that we're going to handle the trade-off between games so just do - just for a handful of reasons we've decided to add just one minute of downtime between games that's gonna give runners a chance to step in and out it's going to give us a chance to change between consoles in the cases where we change it between consoles and just in general it's gonna keep people from throwing controllers at full-speed against one another yeah I thought that was part of the race we've lost a lot of good men that was done 8:1 a particularly long stage most of the levels in 8 world 8 are a lot longer than they all of the levels that we've gone through so far and smb1 at some b2j in particular I believe there's no checkpoints once you get into world its accuracy is important yeah we're definitely into the area of the run that I would I would say is cosmics wheelhouse now the world 8 and he's in normal conditions so I think I think he will be able to make up some time you can definitely see how much fire is helping lackattack mitigate some of these issues in this stage Ozzy a good bill yeah world 8 is definitely a level that are a world that the anypercent runners are masterful at it's it's basically half of the any percent run so cosmic being a prolific anypercent Runner is obviously very familiar with that he's probably the best in the world at eight for eight for being the only level that doesn't actually have a frame rule because it's the end of the game so you can actually save frames and I believe he is the best ever record at eight four so going for the mushroom there and unfortunately the Bullet Bill being right on top of him as he got it you can see that brief moment of hesitation looking to see if he could get the shot but wasn't meant to be mr. cabs getting his fire flower back probably a good choice the end of the stage can be incredibly stressful with all the hammer bros the hammer brothers are probably the most difficult part to deal with in this game casually and honestly even speed running wise a very very big challenge especially without fire strats so smart of them to go to safer out there [Music] until AK Tech definitely went for the wall jump pixel there let's hear it for cosmic say three oh my gosh I staged cosmic cosmic had no issues handling those fire broke Arthas hammer brothers what you just saw lackattack do and you're about to see mr. cap do is Krong warp so essentially yours they're scrolling the screen far enough to the right to kind of move the trigger for where the warp would be but they can still get into the pipe and they will actually end up going to that water section instead that's not where that pipe is intended to go they are actually tricking the game into thinking that and with that or we have the end of SMB one team boom boom in the loop sub 20 minutes by lack really really nice time really impressive that's a solid run to start off this real life so really good wrong we actually got a fifty dollar donation from Philly person that actually said go team boom-boom final Wingo are you tagged so great job you can see the special challenge that mr. Cobb had do you anymore anymore and there we go for cosmic [Applause] [Music] so as they set up we're looking at less than a thirty second gap between all three teams spreadable close race nothing's even begun to be decided yet as we go into a very difficult speed game Super Mario Brothers to us and with that we have just a fin going ahead and starting off Super Mario Brothers to us he's gonna be picking toad right out the gate now you're gonna actually see a lot of really interesting strategies right at the beginning of this game there's a lot of really interesting tack in this game obviously for those of you who have ever seen Super Mario Brothers to us speedrun the most important tech is that for whatever reason toad being the slowest character in the game they decided that all he has to do is pick up an enemy and he's now the fastest character on the game that and that's what they're again a little fuzz on our screen here nothing's fun can't handle though oh and just offend dying on Berto at the end of one one one of the most difficult parts about this speedrun is that the there are no continues when you die in a world you start at the beginning of that world so if you die on 74 you start back on the at 7 one can make this game really unsafe for a situation like this especially trying to push the game as fast as you can nice trick why spend there so something interesting to note about this game is that this game is subject to a lot of this game this game has a lot of similarities with SMB one in regards to frame rules so you might think that this game doesn't really have frame rules to it but one way to think about is at the end of every single stage there's a fight against Berto and in that fight against Berto Berto shoots eggs and those eggs are actually on a global timer so based on when they start the level every I think 254 frames Berto fires another egg so you can see spend doing a quick carpet trick where he gets up one carpet and swaps makes the carpet go and considerably faster and he's able to skip over a whole section that you go inside the door and have to get a key for also kind of weird seeing spend kill a Berto on team Berto I don't know how I feel about it I guess it's kind of necessary if we're gonna win the race so what pjw just tried to do there is pick up a vegetable after coming out of subspace unfortunately no luck but that would have been able to take a bird up very quickly so for any of you who have played this game casually you've probably seen that at the bottom of one three you typically go to the bottom the top of the stage to get a key and then go to the bottom of it to open the door but right there just ofin did a trick where he flipped clicked through the bottom of the screen which allowed him to enter right through that door basically yeah that's already in world 1-2 skips of needing to go obtain keys and unlock areas I'm just a I'm gonna skip through different stuff this game has a lot of really interesting tech and glitches in it I think a really interesting fun who sees fen attempting it right now you actually see JW over there trying the same thing and all three runners pulling that off easily the pros that's a very difficult jump to pull off so continuing with our theme to use toad to go fast we're going to see toad for most of world too but not just being able to run fast code also digs the fastest and since this world has two different stages where you spend a lot of time digging you're gonna see him proceed through the stage very quickly spend dying on now I'd be remiss not to point out that Sven is the only person in this game that has held double world record for this game it was interesting there's also the only person with the Swedish flag wrapped around his neck in my experience that's true one of the nice features about the all-stars version of this game is you can actually skip that fanfare that happens after by pausing and getting the menu repeatedly unfortunately an S version we don't have access to that menu [Music] they have a forty dollar donation from Kay doodle seven I says team Reznor has my heart I still believe in my boy be JW v JW BIM time very solid so far nailing all the tricks couldn't ask for too much more right now one of the most underrated parts of the speedrun that you might not realize watching it it's digging digging is really difficult you want to speak to that as somebody who's run this game fairly often yeah so there's a lot of different approaches to digging you see a lot of the top runners get really good at just digging pretty much straight down it looks like and and they they pick these specific lines and patterns that allow them to move pretty quickly but more important than any of that is sort of how do you deal with it if you don't have the rhythm down for digging as fast as possible one of the issues with that is that as you can see there's a lot of enemies who would like to fall on your head but they sort of move left and right based on your position in relation to them so you can dig specific patterns so that when they fall down to a lower level they actually just walk away from the hole that you're digging which is extremely convenient and particularly useful for going fast is to not have to worry so much about the enemies falling down on your head you'll see that sven actually is able to start kill that burrow if you're able to get a star all the way to a guard of light you can just run right through them not after now the tiny product can be very difficult but I window if you can do it it's it's quite a bit faster there's an easier version of that Stark Hill - in World War two we're gonna see a little later on yep so what other characters can we expect to see in this game I'm gonna see all four characters you will see probably all four characters at least from most of the players in most of the stages you pick based on what you do the most of so four really stages where you need lots of really long jumps you're gonna see maybe Luigi if you see stages where it's just a lot of running or digging you're gonna see toad there is one particular stage where it's faster to use Princess Peach and or the princess and that stage is just one where there's one particularly long gap that allows you to skip a segment of the stage and then for a lot of these runners you're probably going to see them use Mario in three three Mario is a really well-balanced character and that stage just has a large balance of going horizontally and jumping vertically so my boys Finn throwing a item at Berto at the same time they came out being able to get a double hit there save a little bit of time overall the race is still really close yeah this is exceptionally close it just depends having a little bit of a challenge game that that the power jump the reason is is that while you have to start activate it you actually can't see whether or not your characters flashing to indicate that you actually fully power it up so if you try to rush it while you have the star you have no visual indicator that you've succeeded and Svend being a champ just in doing the audio or the visual issues that are going on in front of them just staying focused you know I think spin deserves a special appreciation for being able to play into these conditions it doesn't seem to be affecting them at all to be honest yeah and there you saw a quick kill on tri Clyde you can actually throw the the bird directly on him there's a lot of pretty cool quick kills on these bosses that you might not have ever seen if you've only played this game casually just really creative strats and in my opinion compared to some of the other Mario games which is really like this game is definitely kind of the black sheep or a very different game than the others and it's a it's got a lot of really cool speed tech that you won't see in other games these Mario games either it looks like pjw just barely missed the the timing for gain the quick kill on try five ended up clutching out the end anyway it's worth noting here if we're just talking about PBS directly that the B JW is definitely the favorite to win for this game he has by far the strongest PB of the three though they're all fairly evenly matched I would say I just wanted to say before we you guys keep continue on but we did reach 900,000 [Applause] that's all let's get to that 1 million guys we're almost there okay so here's the change where you're gonna get to see just offend using a peach in order to or a princess in order to skip a little segment there's a gap that otherwise wouldn't be accessible and if you were to try to make that gap you would actually fall in despite the fact that technically they're supposed to be more staged down there but that jump right there saves quite a bit of time you're also gonna see here being able to jump off of the ladder and go above the level skipping a substantial part of this stage yeah this is gonna be a running theme throughout the game you can actually jump off of vines ladders and chains in this game it's very tight timing so if you just try to do it by yourself you know let's say that you're sitting at home and you fire up your console you may not get it but you have a small frame window to still press the jump button when you when you step off of a ladder it happens to be much larger if you're playing as Luigi so if you're holding the UP button when you step off a ladder you have eight frames to hit the jump buggy for every other character it's only three and if you're not holding the UP button it's only one frame for every character so it's actually really difficult to pull off but it's a major part of skipping large portions of some of the levels of this one and eight or seven one in particular and here we're gonna see the first appearance of Mario what's the reason for that chat so this is a well balanced character that works well for what this stage has so there's a lot of segments with straight climbing and Mario happens to have a really balanced jump height that also works really well for some of the heights are some of the distances between some of these platforms so when we get into the next room and he's jumping between platforms it just so happens that Mario's primary jump height is the perfect height for going between those platforms and so balanced between his run speed and his jump and his jump height he is the clear choice for the stage and he just boosted that jump off of the enemy to get sustained school higher than he normally would you can get a rhythm for these vines when you have two chains next to each other or two ladders or two vines you can get a rhythm for going back and forth between them to climb faster using Jones we have a $10 donation from Olaf blue says refresh token Eagles go team boom boom nice come on all right so we have just a fin right now going into the second Mauser fight both of the other runners are gonna be going into the match or two in just a second as well this Mauser fight the major difference between this one and the previous one is this one takes five hits and in addition to that there's also this spark that's going around the screen the whole time it's very frustrating casually yes and you see spend using Luigi in this level instead of Mario that we talked about do you want to speak to why he's doing that well I think he said that he had a few specific strats that made okay yeah he mentioned specifically that there was a frame perfect glitch I think it was that door entrance right there if you input the jump up the jump at the right time you can skip a little portion of that stage in addition to that I mean all told the amount of vines that you end up climbing in this stage being able to have access to just jumping straight up then much more easily it makes him not a worse choice to be honest luigi is definitely an interesting character to get too used to using casually because of just how float he is but huge advantages that some of the speed tech in this game specifically with ladders and just jumping over certain gaps [Music] so I think I've been told in the past and someone can confirm for me but I think I've been told in the past that taking that hit as you grab the orb they're saved some lag frames sorry guys we're going to go ahead and uh fix this right now that's why we have everyone at a pause do not worry it's gonna keep going alright so just to make this fixed he's going to go ahead and use the warp to just catch up to where we were at and this way we don't have two minutes we don't have video just kind of going crazy on you guys there so maybe one more round of applause for Spencer so well up to this point with his with his console like that I mean to be able to pull off the crazy tricks that he was doing in addition to some of the strats that really no one else goes for and even now I mean all he's doing is trying to get back to world four and he's playing like fire I'll read a couple of donations while we're waiting for spend to get to or one I have a two hundred dollar donation from turabian that says go team Berto marbles marbles marbles marbles marbles marbles marbles marbles marbles oh my goodness we have a thirty dollar donation from Thompson harbor that says I'm so excited for the rest of this race I had to donate again go team resin are killing animals for my man Riley we have oh my goodness we have a fifty dollar donation from the sticky stick man that says incredibly happy to donate during that my most anticipated run of this GDQ looks like it's going to be an exciting race so far we'll donate another 15 if team boom-boom wins another 2015 Berto wins and another 25 of Team Reznor wins we also got a two thousand dollar donation from Tang n-woo supporting and SF is one of the best cards that I could put my money towards I've kept my putter dry all this time but I've got to go support grand Pooh Bear it's time to raise the stakes money goes towards the Brenna's choice come on Mario speed on community let's see if we can push this to 1 million one person just needs to time donate 93 thousand dollars right now and we're good yeah well just be ball a fine dopey chief guys come on it doesn't look good on you got a hundred dollars from an honest that says go team Reznor killed those animals okay so here you're gonna see the warp that you wouldn't normally see and warpless all right here we go about ready to go all right guys we're gonna count it down again so in three two one go awesome nice little halftime break you know get some Gatorade now I feel like I can really see that screaming yeah go over the game plan talk to the coach I think it's amazing that even this far into the run we're seeing these runners this close yeah I mean there may be favorites and and underdogs in each game but overall these are like these are all about the ramen it's the best Mario players in the world and many of these runners run mote most of these games they don't just stick to their game and so there's just a lot of talent going on right here it's pretty amazing to see it all in one place [Music] so here we got just been going for the for the star kill yep you got a window for it's a lot easier in in for two than it goes in to one but this maneuvering this fends doing here this this part is pretty tricky at least two newer runners just trying to keep your speed and dodge all of these different things flying at you can be pretty tough and you can see Luigi riding an egg with the plant over his head so the maintenance of your choosing Luigi right here is because there's a big gap you can jump over right here that skips pretty much the entire stage it's important not to go in the wrong door otherwise you'll be locked out of it that's true this fight we all remember this one really good fight that was a great fight spend the pulling off the star kill himself well BJ W goes for the fry guy fight oh ho that was a great pie hat was it that was risky and he pulled it off there's a lot of swagger on team Reznor they're going for some bold bold moves I respect it respect their game so much of five one can be skipped just over series of long jumps if you miss a jump you can actually clip into some of those platforms so not all is lost if just defendants taking a really quick detour for that extra one up yeah so as we said earlier this game is really punishing if you game over you will have to go all the way back to the first level of the world you're in other games that we're playing here a lot less punishment so so taking an extra life there and losing a couple seconds probably not the biggest oh wow so we found our first gray or silver Roberto here and that just means you're not gonna get any eggs out of that Berto you have to throw mushroom locks at it there's three variants there's the pink one which will shoot all eggs the red one which will shoot some eggs and some kind of fire and then the silver ones which will shoot all fired what if I'm colorblind sky goes I think they're still the same color you just can't see it okay [Music] all right so you've seen some differences in strats just offended choosing to use toad in 5-2 now that's an interesting choice toad obviously runs faster and you can play the stage faster but Luigi definitely gets the benefit from the vine section here so yeah this game very unique just in the fact that you can have so many different strategies Super Mario Brothers one we saw overarching strategies that people maybe do differently but this game kind of goes by level by level how you feel comfortable and that's kind of a really interesting you know thing especially in a marathon like this to see so many different approaches [Music] great fight over here by just offend that's a really tough Berto that's one of the earlier boroughs that we encounter that shoots both fireballs and eggs and with that fish in the way there's a gap it's kind of a smaller segment it can be very challenging [Music] another great fight with by Vijay W so every time you're seeing Luigi jump off the vine like this that's you know an a-frame window for you to do it and obviously can just extend through the levels way quicker it's never getting into level five three probably one of the longest levels of the game the boss strategy is very interesting here you need to throw the projectiles into the wall and you can get anywhere from I want to say two to five hits yeah it definitely varies anywhere from just the normal one hit you might get two in some rare cases being able to get all five at once this is probably the most challenging stage in terms of a casual play but this is also kind of a nail-biter for a speedrun as well so it's really amazing watching these guys play this so efficiently you're gonna see you're gonna see just a pen going for the carpet clutch right here he's gonna spawn two carpets and that's going to make the original carpet with a lot faster especially because at the time Toth is also holding an item so you get an extra speed boost there oh wow almost the triple and now he's gonna be going into the clog lip fight this this is a crab that throws rocks he's going to be trying to get his hands on one and Bank it off at the back wall [Music] really nice that is extremely hard to pull off for what it's worth I don't know if that was obvious from watching it really nice tie by 3jw stuff team resin horn team boom boom pretty tight team Berto not far behind still really tight race here [Music] we have a 200 dollar donation from Wallach that says Team Bertos sin is the man yeah we also have a $20 donation says go b JW i had no idea you were running today but I love watching you run when you do much love cocoa [Music] [Applause] although he might in a minute of each other so this is probably one of the most interesting stages to watch it's very challenging to learn how to do this the intended strat for the stage is to just ride one of the albatrosses off to the right but you're going to see these runners choosing to use Luigi and making these very precarious jumps between enemies most of these jumps do line up somewhat naturally but there are a few that are very difficult to pull off a small frame window right off of the end of one enemy just barely gets you on to the next one that's always been strange to me it's almost like they set that up as an easter egg to find because of the way those birds are just lined up so naturally to use it for weed you definitely at least favorite part of Super Mario Brothers 2 getting chased by that mask of nightmares from being a kid just always after you well you know what I don't think it scares these runners coming up in 6 3 we have a potion jump here coming up on just Frenchmen just defend and the other runners are going to be trying to use this potion to Bank off of and jump over the wall that's excellent the alternative is going underneath the wall which takes time to sink under the sand and then you move much more slowly in the sand pjw pulling off without any trouble we'll see suspend doing the albatrosses now yeah he goes for it with a slight variant in the strategy doesn't take the vegetable which is slightly faster you don't waste the time picking up the vegetable but it's very dangerous to do because you only have a one tile wide gap to land on that little island verticals at every tile life the strike light fight is very interesting you saw just ofin going for extremely aggressive variants at the Strad b JW went for I think the more common variant what you're about to see is 71 and 72 the abbreviated version very short lava holes caused by some sequence Berg's going them yeah this this level in general is supposed to be extremely long I mean 72 even worse off there we go spend going for the potion jump first without trouble no trouble alright just ofin was unfortunate to have the enemy that he needed to jump off of despond so he's currently trying to get him to spawn back but unfortunately this pot just keeps spitting out enemies and it's causing problems there he goes is that due to a sprite limit mm-hmm it's a sprite limitation all it takes this game slowed down just a little bit I think there's some other things that cause as well but losing that enemy they're going under is really not a better option really it's just better to always go back and try to respawn it spend taking it safe there easy small oh no I think I hit the right wall there tightly the extremely difficult fight even for speedrun strats especially in the marathon like this the strategy is really interesting because you know you don't necessarily need to win or lose your race you're trying to keep your team in the mix and so sometimes being risky has a price to pay just not just yourself but the rest of your team so an interesting thing worth noting that we just saw from just defendant BJ W is you can actually abuse the little and vulnerability period you get whenever you pick up an enemy you'll probably see it from from spin here as well as Luigi or really is any enemy when you're picking up an item you get some frames and vulnerability you benefit from it more as some a character like peach or Luigi to pick up items very slowly but during that whole time you're invulnerable so if you want to pick up a block while Bertos firing at you you can just wait until the shot is just about to hit you and then pick up the block and you're invulnerable as the shot goes through you it makes a lot of the Berto sights way easier so this sequence break actually has the interesting benefit of being able to have the key already spawned even before you defeat the Berto which allows you to basically just skip it entirely wait well that Bowser yeah so in this state in this game we're fighting wart I think you guys are mostly familiar with this some interesting things to note are that as long as these runners don't die in this stage you can actually guarantee what pattern you get off of the the vegetable machine so it starts spawning in the middle the next one spawns on the right then in the middle then on the left and back and forth in that way if they were to die and have to come back into the stage you actually get the same pattern but you just don't know where it's gonna start from and with that we have BTW finishing up Super Mario Brothers to us first ballads that really speaks to be JW skill in this game I mean with the previous run we had cosmic finishing off snd one last and just in that time BJ W if they pull his team into the first and we just now have just offend finishing up Super Mario Brothers to us both of these runners right around a 24 minute time really solid work it's been really not too far behind either no absolutely not only tight race law along no no major mistakes that have put any team really far out of it I think we're within about a minute or minute and a half of each other oh and spend taking an unfortunate death on Ward there the fight against wart can be extremely challenging but it was right at the beginning of the fight which means it really didn't lose more than probably ten seconds so was spending that first vegetable out of the left side of the machine he now instantly knows what his patterns going to be no problems a nod live kicking off smb3 over here alright so Super Mario Brothers 3 we have had power up so far but at this point we're gonna have to deal with a different kind of element and that is the items we're gonna be using some items to be skipping some stages throughout the game so inventory management is very important something we're gonna be talking about throughout the game you don't want to grab 3 of any item throughout the game we want to have differences because you will lose time if you get 3 stars or 3 fire flowers mushrooms isn't really that big of a deal we will have also the P speed meter as well Oh a bit of a scary fight to warp it Sven pulls it off sub 26 this week it races still definitely close there we go with that we just ended up Super Mario Brothers to us by suspend I live in Korea are both off to an excellent start with us and III this can be a very challenging game to pull off management P speed is extremely challenging this is a game based off the movie The Wizard mm-hmm yep that's the long [Music] so right here what's gonna happen is we're actually not going to fight boom-boom in this fortress they're gonna be taking the whistle ahaha was it references I know but this whistle is actually going to skip there was this whistles going to skip this part of the stage it comes with a little bit of a cost here the whistle is normally what you would use to warp so that whistle is going to stay in your inventory you better not mash the buttons otherwise you're gonna be sent off to a far-off land you don't want to do that in a worthless race we call it no Tooting I think it's important to note that my boy poo has the freshest hat collection of any of the runners in this whole marathon that's true and I think though that's gonna make a big difference for this race he actually had to bring an extra suitcase just filled with hats so the first of many hammer brothers hammer brothers can cause a ton of rng and smb3 we also have the overworld which was in an element and the other two games the samurai brothers are gonna cause some complications as to which items they carry where do they head I'm what I want to know and we'll talk about that in a world - coming up is whether or not any of these players are going to get early hammer and if so why did it chose to do that during a marathon versus not but the hammer will allow them if they access it early in world - to skip three stages early on at the cost of having to do an extra fortress in world war just going off this is the first game that we have here in this race that involves p-speed you want to talk about kind of the difficulty of maintaining peace speed and how that affects the speed run versus the other ones we watched so far yeah so this game is the first to implement a pea meter which means that you do have to build up a certain amount of run speed before you get the opportunity to run at your full potential the difficulty here is that this game punishes you in certain ways such as you know movement back and forth run running over hits any moment that Mario's feet aren't on the ground you're probably being punished against you're being punished with your P speed V meter dropping these runners are all really used to this and in general the the thing is is that just looking at the pee meter usually isn't enough to tell the full story a competent runner can usually sort of internalize how far off they are away from you know getting their full piece be definitely losing pee speed are getting hit you definitely throw off a level that you know it looks so easy when you have your pee speed and do it perfectly but just the littlest of mistakes can throw off a level so easily in this game also I think this game needs more auto scrollers what do you think no worth noting that Carew is the current world record holder for this category with an incredible time that both of these runners all Club and grand Pooh Bear have both improved their peepees quite recently actually have really really great times this is this is going to not just be a close match I think but it's also going to be really impressive it's one thing to have a bunch of people who are playing at a 55 or a 58 minute time being all matched but being able to see them play at this level and play this competently or consistently is around a 51 minute time I believe is out of 53 5050 to I think which is just really amazing so right here the urge to kind of jump and grab the wand is strong but here you actually want to stay at the bottom of the screen and just pick up the wand as it falls to you because it does save time from Mario falling even further if you drop to get the wand toads animation they're really amazing to me this is a lot of distress we're gonna help them out don't worry we have a $5,000 donation from the kobold in saying such an amazing event gdq is with so many incredible people running and donating shoutouts to my favorite runner poo de vito still say the princess saved keenum and as always save the animals go team Berto woo [Applause] so you may think that if you've ever watched some of the runs like Super Mario World for instance where runners tend to rely very heavily on their cape you might think that the preferred powerup for a game like this with people Leif but honestly even just playing this game casually you you get quite the impression that the leaf is quite a bit slower using the raccoon tail on its lower for movement and that's exactly what you're going to see throughout the course of this run there's gonna be a few stages where runners will probably be using their puing if for no other reason than just the access to a leaf when they need it but in general most these runners are gonna be sticking to either small Mario or fire Mario depending on what stage they're in and that's going to be kind of an important thing to note it this game would be quite a lot easier if they were able to use their leaf but they just won't absolutely sky why don't you talk about some of the other items that you can pick up that are useful for the game you mentioned the hammer what else is there in this game that uh that kind of just makes a difference in the speedrun now we're not going to see the players use the tails often however there is an item called the peewee Miffy one's gonna be used to break a couple levels such as 6-9 there's also the junior moose cloud which is going to be used to skip entire stages the one drawback is and I will have to remind players of this unfortunately is if you die in a stage after you've used to cloud youth that will negate what has happened so if you die in 3/8 you will go back to 3/4 because that is what the worthless route it uses yeah so if you are using the cloud to skip an autoscroller and then you die in the next level you're going to end up having to redo or after actually go into the bottle store what even happened there we're also going to see a couple couple variants in the smb3 Graham theater is actually going to be using hammer strats to defeat Bowser whereas current live both use the fire suit well that was a honestly I wouldn't have even known what to do in that circumstance I was amazing that glib was able to recover half that was amazing honestly he got really unlucky with the corner clip in the situation and I think either panic or really just not wanting to lose his fire flower at the time just took out both of the Koopas so you had to go back for another one it's definitely underrated having the ability to react in that way to something that's very unusual to happen in your speedrun versus you know you have general mistakes that happen that you have backup strats for but to just know a game well enough to react immediately on what to do and unfortunately getting some bad luck with the hammer brother just going right on top of them there I think bad looks a little bit of an understatement John curls so what glib is going to do here is use the hammer we're actually going to skip the desert stage and we'll stage five and he's going to have to do the fortress 10 world force so we're gonna get to see a stage and warpless we normally will not get to see you so that's kind of clip just once more airtime that's fair we have a $500 donation from Raz that says go team burrow go boo I like you just the way you are whoo giving a sense a lot of people like graham Dube now one thing that you're probably going to see a lot of and you may not notice it it can be very subtle at times but if you run at full speed with with full P meter into the end of the stage you pretty much always are guaranteed to get the same card you're always going to get the star card which if you're just playing this game for fun is fine that's five lives every time you get three star cards that really adds up but you will see them try to suddenly lose a little bit of speed usually toward the end of the stage just to offset what card they're going to get because they desperately want to avoid getting three of the same card three of the same card definitely is going to lose them a lot of time so there's a whole animation that shoots up fireworks and gives you bunch of lives it's so you're saying all of these runners aren't patriotic it's not just part of that what are you got me pretty good there as if you don't have enough to worry about in this game so there's another thing that's special to this game the hammer brothers can turn into coin ships while that sounds like that's fun these coin ships are actually auto scrollers you don't want more auto scrollers in this run we have enough auto scrollers in this run so what's going to happen is we need to make sure these players do not have any multiples of 11 when in the world's one three five and six now I do want to point out that while this game has a ton of room for differences in strats and we have seen we've been fortunate to see almost every game so far all of these runners using considerably different strats for the most part these games are gonna look very similar for SMB Lurie you're gonna see these runners choosing basically the same route it's pretty set in stone and there's not a little a lot of options for them but one thing that you are gonna see as we near closer to the end of the run is you're gonna see grandpoo bear using the fire scar the the hammer suit and that's going to be really exciting because a lot of times you'll see warpless runners pick up the hammer suit but save it until Bowser but Graham Cooper is actually going to activate it a lot earlier and use the hammer suit to help him with a lot of world 7 and all of world 8 and there's obviously a backup option for him if he happens to lose it it's not the end of the run he can grab a fire flower toward the end and that's not a problem but the other two runners are going to prefer the more common and conventional fire mario strats grand Pooh Bear is gonna be the one that's really going to differ here and it's gonna be exciting to see that in addition to that the jugamos clouds that skybilz mentioned earlier you can choose which stages you want to skip and while some of them are pretty obvious choices which ones you would want to skip there are a few options you can have throughout the run we're going to see a few of these runners pick different stages throughout and some of those options are for time saving and some of those options are for safety and it's gonna be interesting to see which stages we see from which runners absolutely looking forward to seeing grand Pooh Bear and his ultimate swag of hammer suit it's the only way to beat this game very nice 3t violet it's very difficult to not reach the water there well done now we're gonna see a very iconic enemy in this next stage three three this is boss bass and what happens is it doesn't matter how many power-ups you have if that fish gets you you're dead we have a twenty dollar donation from cold trooper that says been waiting all week to donate during the Super Mario race go team Rezanov hmm yeah that's the appropriate reaction I mean wrong team but it's still nice to get the money I would have to respect you appreciate the donation thrill with just a great movement right so what crew crew is going there for a frame perfect input there yep you can actually go through the third door and if you press up on the first frame after going through the door it takes you to the boom-boom fight correctly it's you know whether it's an oversight at glitch and easter-egg whatever you want to call it it's very difficult to pull off and I think all three runners have agreed to go for it at least once it loses like seven seconds to go for it in this it definitely loses time I will tell you that that what I'm seeing so far has not save time not a fan of the hammer brother placement on either of the two players wow that was an amazing incredible as Skye mentioned earlier it's very hard to stay out of the water that struts pretty difficult to pull off and he nailed it yeah that that level is a really good example of how keeping your piece speed and going perfectly does littlest thing can knock you off that and especially in that level with the giant fish just waiting to swallow you up it's stakes are even higher all right so kuru finally got his fire flower back I just want to point out that he's been playing at this level this whole time without fire flower a lot of the shots in this games are are are based around having her fire flower oh that's close but the hammer brother did stick around Sakura can get to that you do not want what we call a runaway hammer brother you do not want them to pass by three six why three six is an autoscroller you do not want to touch that stage and each time that you beat a stage or fight a hammer brother the bridge position swaps and you very much don't want to end up in a situation in which you finally encounter three six but the bridges are not set up for you to be able to skip three six to go directly toward three eight for those watching that might not know much about playing this game can you explain kind of the hammer brother RNG that happens on the map yeah so every every time you exit a stage or beat an overworld enemy they have the opportunity to move and there are certain rules about how far they're going to move or where they might be willing to stop but in general it can make a pretty significant difference exactly how far a hammer of other moves in fact you know there there are records for this game that are optimized based on too much hammer brother movement can you know in the run basically absolutely what skybilz was mentioning before is one of these hammer brothers is more or less necessary for this route and if that hammer goes in the wrong direction and ends up in a section of the overworld map that you don't want to go to that can be real trouble absolutely it basically would force you to play an extra level that you really don't want to play [Music] so coming up on the slur Daryl actually actually one of the most difficult enemies ever in this game about Wendy who's actually better than Bob's her to be honest run a fire kill Wendy because when he starts shooting candy rings now all these players were probably fired kill Wendy which is good only one catering will stay on there at least fired things get a little more interesting [Music] no swipe jump for good average Guardian donates $1,000 all saying I don't think we have enough pipe for Team britto good luck who you got this I am required to make a marble mean so marbles marbles marbles everybody's making a lot of sense to me right now this is all just going right over your head we got crew here entering the Windy fight the movements very specific when you watch these runners do these fire kills you don't want to situate yourself too far away from the Koopa kid because if you're too far away it takes a long time for your fireballs to hit and D spawn so that you can fire more of them but you don't want to be too close because they're storing - they're starting to pressure you into the corner basic life [Music] right here we've got glib entering the windy fight ugly [Music] so teams Reznor and boom-boom still within about 20 seconds of each other next one so crews heading into world for world for notable because of all the large enemies in the stage just sort of like a Mario had shrunk down world yeah such a cool concept when you play this as a kid now it is important to note that team boomin is a bit more in the lead right now than they have here to be because remember Uggla did use his hammer during World two so he will have to go through the fortress in the first part of world 4 so in this world a hammer brother orangey can make somewhat of a difference you don't necessarily need to get all of the hammer brothers but it does help that the hammer brother fights in this world are particularly easy when you enter one know how to deal with two hammer brothers or a boomerang brother that sort of forces you to move in a particular way the hammer brothers in this one are sledge bros which are just a single large hammer brother that's particularly easy to kill to be honest of all of the hammer brothers I'd say it's probably one of the more straightforward fights so while hammer brother rng can definitely make a difference it doesn't it doesn't hurt you to get extra ones in this quite as much as does in some of the other worlds world for three one that proves and right now cruel ajikko enforces broody tough gel it's not gonna lie crew is showing that he's a little bit of step above and it comes to movement yeah level you can just really see what it means to be a world record will be there that is the stage where you first learn how to use P speed though if you're first starting to learn how to speedrun this game for three is a great example if the level you're supposed to learn in so you saw their crew use this hammer to skip having to fight one of the boards and this we're gonna see the like to bounce he's going to set up in a very specific way so he can get on top of the lack two and skip pretty much half of a stage I mean the stage is more or less done now double lock tube and lack it used Ed's yeah double win [Music] excellent movement through that stage [Applause] it's sometimes difficult just to look at these and realize how subtle the movement differences are um and just be able to see how small small things that they're doing are affecting affecting how different enemy patterns allow them to move through the state more quickly crew opted to use his music box right there to skip over the Romanian hammer brothers he knew what he had gotten from the first hammer brother and he decided he didn't need what what the rest of them were holding I saw corps fortress 1 by ugly [Music] we have a 200 dollar donation from anonymous that says go team Rezanov I'm not hearing a lot of donations for Team boom-boom i'm assumed that people are holding out for the underdogs i heard that our host to like horn a fan of the host the commentator okay yeah all right I can I can take the criticism he said you were too tall this weird I get that a lot yeah - doing the lakitu jump there as well now there is an item that glib could have used here you actually have that music box that can be used to skip some hammer brothers and some levels later on in world seven but it's best to use that on the bottom one world five so much quicker to kill the sledge brother than the two hammer brothers great movement by club through this stage this is a it's kind of interesting if you watch a lot of Super Mario Brothers versus this game in Super Mario Brothers your fireballs move just barely faster than Mario does which means if you fire a fireball it always conveniently stays right out in front of you whereas in this game Mario runs considerably faster than his fireballs so sometimes you'll see the way that they fire their patterns are firing right as they're about to hit an enemy so that it's that brief moment where the fireball does actually get to be in front of them otherwise they just pass it by the hammer brothers are kind of cute when they're asleep okay I mean you're rooting for the enemy but that's okay [Music] all right so since we're literally on the longest level of the relayer up there at least that would be a good time for donations no problem first we have a $20 donation from calico that says hey guys never gotten to watch a GDQ event live before let alone donate figured I'd do so during one of my favorite game series that was among my first gamer go team boom boom nice I also got lots of people over I also got a $100 donation from oddly happening greetings from the world floor airship they didn't have much else to do right now so I figured I get my donation in thank you so much to all my fellow runners into everyone who helped me put this amazing relay together it's been an honor and a privilege to work with you all and to help dwb with all the great work they do team res NAR I was not only able to keep his own in the speedgame but also able to donate money at the same time pretty impressive I didn't even see him pull out his phone it's brilliant must be Google glass or something probably took a selfie in this stage last year ok Google donate $100 to Games done quick well maybe now Google but I know the Yeti donated $5,000 saying hey um Yeti Glen here gotta show my love for team Berto also shout-out said T boom boom hmm my daughter penny is rooting for you she even made her own sign after watching these events since 2012 it's so special to be able to share with my grop my daughter put this donation towards killing the animals only to balance the race and the fuzzy pickles run being a fan of team boom-boom and team Berto is kind of like being a Red Sox fan and a Yankees fan I don't think it's acceptable no no I think you got to pick a lane there so you saw right at the Beacon I'm sorry you saw right at the beginning of world five the Kuro went ahead and used his whistle that may have seemed strange and in a typical warpless run obviously you would never do that but while it's extremely detrimental to use your whistle at the wrong time which is always at the beginning of world 5 it's convenient to just get it out of your inventory so Kuro made the educated decision that any smart person would do which is to go ahead and get that whistle out of their inventory looking at both all glib and grand cuvee here yeah that's [Music] we have a 150 dollar donation from loser one-for-one that says let's go team reservoir let's save those frames kill those animals and speedrun raising 1 million money to runner's choice [Music] the audience is very diverse now Alcala Verde has two stars buttery careful and I get a third one we don't want to see a fresh five up mm-hm live I think you could use five more lives go ahead and get that star if you don't mind [Music] so you see crew here going through the tower this tower is used in world v to connect the ground level to the sky level this is a sky world as it is so he has to go through this tower forward if he wants to get to the top you can actually use the tower to come back down to the game if you want to but why would you do that [Music] whose fam donates $1,000 saying team Berto and who nation represents who nation hammer suit kill let's do this brother great event as always and a great cause so crew the first one to enter the top area of sky world with ugly and grand Pooh Bear both right behind this is extremely close I live just used the music box that couple hammer brothers asleep making sure that he doesn't have to stop at each one of those now he will have another one by the time he gets to world seven which is gonna be used to skip piranha plant stage at the end now do you want to speak to the items you get at the end of the fighting the hammer brothers are those randomized yeah you can you can spot which ones on which world as long as you can see them at the gain you know which ones holding which I believe but you know it's it's very easy and afraid to lose track of which ones which especially if they pass one another for instance absolutely some of the levels in world 5 it's very difficult to get P speed during them and it's very difficult to not fall a lot of gaps in the stages in stage 5 still don't have a death up at this point in the mario 3 roms race from any of the runners which is just really kind of shocking so kuru losing his fire flower there is gonna cost him just a few seconds just on the boom boom kill but honestly nothing to be worried about how did mario get up to these clouds using the tower you know respectful or alright hammer brothers in perfect position for auckland all that hammer brothers caring is a music box again which he won't need another one [Music] we're losing fire flower they're unfortunate alright jigum cloud being used again to skip five time which is actually a diagonal autoscroller haven't seen anything quite like that in other games but unfortunately we won't get a chance to see that skybilz routing for auto scrollers over here known lover of auto scrollers sound record [Music] we have a 500 dollar donation from be Diddy Tampa saying as always thank you to everyone involved good luck to all the runners cheers and go team res nah [Applause] they wouldn't even be my third favorite tuna wow thanks Josh getting very salty sounds like [Music] very nice 5/8 is one of the toughest stages to keep a speed drought I work nails it [Music] so this is Roy Roy has an earthquake mechanism which you don't want to be on the ground when Roy lands otherwise it's very easy to get combo'd and killed even with fire flower we have a $20 donation from muddy waters that says love me some authorblues and skybilz ouch you're okay though $10 donation from author blue but Noah says singular author blue here donating 14 Berto because I want to see my handsome and posture author Blues play a bad game of John Karl's choice it's good to have friends I'm definitely a bigger fan of author blue than author glues I'm gonna put that out that makes sense for your letters yeah a lot easier to spell I [Music] think this airship needs more cannons worth noting not worth as many points in Scrabble though ooh that double word score really just skyrocketing so on Korea's site at the beginning of World Styx we're using the hammer again just get three stages this time did see Korea using his iframes to be able to get over that spike bit not having to wait for the platform to scroll all the way over there he's gonna bark he'll yell it's gonna be trying to keep this star all the way to the boom boom fight finish them off instantly enjoy you're upside down or how much of a temptation is it to just goof around when you're in these auto scrollers all of the temptation ya can lose runs to that got to be careful keeping your focus through auto scrollers like this is actually really difficult to do [Music] so even though you lost a little bit of speed there that was actually very fortunate for Kura those um the spinning platforms there have a tendency to grab ahold of you and sort of throw you straight down to the pit I have to imagine that specifically with their design forms Oh nice run away oh my god enjoy that yeah as as mentioned before you know hammer brothers have very specific rules about where they can move where they can stop and how far they want to move and that was one of those situations where every single time the hammer brother tried to stop he decided to just keep going nice hi friend boost for are good as well we have a 200 dollar donation from Amy Starr that says I've always meant to give doctors without borders' money when I had some and now I do go team boom boom [Applause] - boom-boom gaming some bandwagon fans here in the audience just kidding guys Olivia alright using using the the raccoon tail in order to fly through large portions of this castle or fort can take quite a lot of time and Kuro pulled it off expertly - going for the star kill and boom-boom boners within about a minute and a half each other so still really close though so we're all really close you just tuned in we're still got two and a half games left and really no clear outcome yet so right here world six five is actually one of the most unique levels than all that Super Mario Brothers 3 because the exit of this is actually through the top you need a tail to those viewings preferred so you don't have to gather up a speed and go through the pipes lots of runners being frustrated with the hammer brother patterns here alright hardness level coming up here on career outside I think he's gonna need some serious time alright that was impressive holding right for that long good work bud so you may think that that hint hit was accidental but really just wants to burn that leaf as early as possible as I mentioned before Wow playing with fire there and you really only want the raccoon tail when it is needed and beneficial if not it's gonna slow you down so taking the damage there is intentional [Music] I always loved the crouched flying in this level [Music] grandpa Pooh Bear pulling off a wonderful for it as well the sport being very difficult to pull off with the tail but absolutely handled it no problem oh look it's another autoscroller hmm urge you like autoscrollers shoutouts the flying boats we have a 200 dollar donation from the five o'clock shadow that says because I attended grad school with authorblues got it go with some team boom boom let's get some tea boo boo hi this person knows you personally and just board your hula well he knew there was a ground there but I didn't know there was a ground there we have another 200 dollar donation from furred lawn that says go team Berto good loves food [Applause] [Music] we have $150 donation from victory formation that says here's to the cause - team boom boom crew grabbing the wand out of the air for swag not as good as hammer hammer suit swag that's true which i think game pretty close to seeing hammer suits like I was hoping that who would wear a real hammer suit [Music] GLIP trying to leave the autoscroller from the left doesn't seem to be working for him but you know no no reason not to try it doesn't lose any time so we've got a clip right here at the game of waltz 771 he's gonna be trying to clip right through the corner of this block here without going through the door or try that's really good and that skips the entire stage right there so skipping the stage is really helpful for not spending as much time playing the game yeah I hear about yeah it's a good strategy to opting not to try and leave the level on the left she's just accepted his failure alright so cruise going here for a set up it looks a little strange but he's he's going for a setup to get P speed early on in the stage which allows him to skip going through a little pipe segment to reveal invisible blocks [Music] the nice thing about being small barrio only there is that you can actually land directly on the other pipe we have an anonymous two hundred dollar donation seyn been waiting all week for this race go team Berto marbles marbles marbles marbles marbles marbles marbles marbles marbles put this to naming boos name in earthbound Melvin I get the feeling that you're the person here who understands the least about the marbles thing and yet you seem more excited than the others have you ever watched his dream oh I've watched it they say marbles a lot no I kept that up I'm saying you don't understand it oh I understand all right here comes I would say one clip they're trying well very impressive god I can choose agra but it'll do mac and cheese is the random name that they gave to our first try seven one clip [Music] we have a 250 dollar donation from Sahara that says already donated during Twilight Princess but seeing these guys and girls do a Super Mario inspired me talk with my wallet good job right there go team resin our money goes to runners choice everybody honestly getting the clip much faster than most people that I watch her on this game so but you only watch me yeah [Music] and we got a $10,000 donation [Applause] from notch himself named hey guys it's a good message here you see kuru going for some clips as well there's a whole chain of these clips that you can go four in a row and they can save a ton of time going through kind of this whiny level do you want to explain some of the tech behind how you get these clips yeah so you just Crouch jump into the corner but what you're looking for is you're looking to actually catch your foot on the on on what we refer to as the wall clip pixel so every 16 pixels it sort of represents what the game considers maybe ground to stand on and so if you can manage to jump into the corner while crouching catching your foot on what we call the wall clip pixel actually allows Mario to stand back up something you shouldn't be able to do while he's in midair and if you can stand up right there getting his head stuck in the ceiling makes the game start forcing to the right that's the basic premise and that pixel is the same pixel you'll see people do a wall jumps off of correct correct so all the other runners that you're going to see here are going to be using their cloud to skip this stage right here this is the second fortress in world 7 this is a very common stage to be skipped in in the warpless category just because it's incredibly difficult to pull off and even more difficult to pull off quickly but kuru is actually going to off - yeah just pulling that level off like it's not even a challenge crews actually going to opt to instead skip the fortress in world 8 now here's a sort of what you need to know about that skipping the fortress in world 8 is a longer stage so it's a calculated choice to save time by doing that but the alternative result is that now not only did he have to play a more difficult stage but if he loses his fire over the course of world 8 he's not going to have the option in fort in a to get it back and that's going to be a problem Graham kubera's taking this opportunity to grab his hammer suit big shout outs the hammer suit kind of the only way to play the game if you ask me we didn't now you didn't ask me did you I didn't oh that's right Wow nice clip spy clip over here Wow [Applause] [Music] nice nice very well done my club here has passed the point at no return at that point I that clip he was actually trapped in that segment so it's not like a lot of the other clips where if you miss it you can just cancel out and go back and try another path he he was committed at that point who getting the first clip oh the second clip Oh at that point it's just showing off it's the swag clip got to have that hammer Brothers suit on to do that one gotta be rules against showboating hmm a lot of bad things about this guy I'm sorry will mostly bad things about team Reznor but yeah I feel like that reflects directly on use at home yeah [Music] oh cool another airship another autoscroller well I'm glad that you guys are starting to get tired of all the strollers because we're heading into world 8 thankfully we won't be seeing any more of those yeah I don't think there's even one in the world 8 is there what do these two say about me while I was gone alright so we're coming off on the 8th world here very interesting very gonna make a big difference in the relay that hand stages you can get anywhere between one and three hands so right after the naval ship you're sure to put in your bets zero through three so just explaining the hands a bit more there's these hands that come up on the map that'll grab the character or not grab them each hand that grabs you you have to do an additional level so you clearly save a whole lot of time not getting any hands versus having to do multiple additional levels what are the statistics behind that well it's I mean for at assets it's easily manipulated but for a human you've got roughly a 50/50 shot of being pulled into each stage so I mean just just based on the numbers you're looking at a one in eight shot of getting zero hands a one in eight shot of getting three hands and relatively even shot of getting one in two hands that's most likely what we're gonna see us one or two hands for each person that's a pretty slick math man I did it in my head nice and every iterate you have an equal chance of getting zero in three hands we have a $50 donation from Quinn topia that says good hammer brothers great clips no hands get it done 50 dollar donation from freelancer 42 that says go team Berto also kill the animals save the marbles gotta save the marbles the spire flower is going to do a lot of favors for kirua in this world it's gonna allow him to kill but kill the boom-booms and kill the boomerang brothers pretty quickly throughout the course of this world now you may think there's nothing to do in these auto scrollers but there is a small amount of time being saved with from lag reduction by eliminating serving and certain enemies and making sure that certain explosions happen candidates do not happen it's a special message just for the hammer brother suit isn't it suppose a special guy you know a special message whenever you have a frog suit a tanooki suit or a hammer brothers suit Thanks now the King King said that you wanted his clothes frog suits pretty lit as well yeah not quite as good as the hammer so not fast but you know fresh it's the closest suit to being a frog that they have in this game for sure I mean yeah yeah a lot of people don't know that all right so while we're on cruise I'm here in naval ship be sure again in your chat one two or three hands for Kura maybe we might see the fabled zero well soon what's the winning prize sky undecided yet yeah it's maybe worth noting really quickly that crew is actually slightly further ahead than it seems he's one full auto scroller ahead but in addition to that he is gonna have the opportunity to cloud the fortress in world eight as well which is definitely a longer for Chris so he's got a little bit of a lead just just talking pure numbers Graham Koo bear with the hammer brothers suit will be able to get a slightly faster kill on Bowser but just in general fire and and hammer are going to be roughly the same in terms of time saves about two seconds overall but it adds about ten points a swag I think approximately definitely yeah almost so close whoo-hoo disappointed by the lack of three hands for kirua one still isn't too bad though if you are going to get one hand though the middle hand is actually the one you want to get it is the shortest of the three hands at least it wasn't the first one oh look another autoscroller I mean honestly now would be a great time for just a few donations no problem we have a seventy five dollar donation from Matthew that says high Phoenix go team Berto good choice we have a $50 donation from the nerd wonder that says this is the strange and Sonic the Hedgehog race I've ever seen $20 from anonymous that says go team everybody dying on the autoscroller so he's actually very fortunate that he did get the last hand in hindsight because all otherwise he would have actually gone back to the pipe which meant he would have had to try for all three hands again Wow so while previously we said that the middle hand would have been the best one from to get really glad that you got the last hand yeah you definitely don't want to do the hands twice speaking of the middle hand that is the one that I would happen to get hopefully we don't see the last one again I think clip might get four hands I'm actually really interested to see what kuru strats are going to be because as I mentioned before he's not gonna have the easy access to fire that you would typically have in the fortress innate so will he still be able to get fire for a killing Bowser I'm not sure actually do you know whether or not he's gonna have access to fire anywhere else really he will have access to fire but it depends on whether or not he plans on skipping the fortress well he has the cloud for it it would certainly save more time to skip the fortress so the answer is no then yeah the end about the Bowser kill will take a significantly longer time without fire flower I think it's probably going to normalize a lot of this gap absolutely so outlet really getting the best-case scenario here other three runners only got the middle hand [Music] if you really wanted to troll the runners if somebody's asking you how many hands did somebody get if you say four you're not a nice person who got two hands so getting the brunt of the RNG here however he is still incredibly good-looking guys so oh so he chose instead to cloud eight - and saves gonna do the fortress as we said before being able to react to circumstances you don't normally continue runs in on is a really difficult thing to do in a marathon race and crew kind of just showing his overall Mario knowledge right here by knowing immediately what he wanted to do to be able to get the Bowser quick kill I feel like to a certain extent this was an obvious choice but I completely overlooked the option to just cloud different stage yeah it is important to note though that the fortress is substantially longer than eight - though yeah definitely definitely a costly error on the autoscroller but something that's just gonna normalize the race in general I think team boom-boom probably still in the slight lead right now we'll get our second visit from the angry Sun here that being of my childhood right there one thing that is interesting with the hammer suit strat is that in that level grand Pooh Bear will actually be able to kill the Sun and it will make that level like incredibly less stressful for him I'm excited to see Graham who bear make thousands with a hammer soon oh me too [Music] so ugly still has a spider flower no worries here and kirua just showing what all speedrunners do during the very last auto scrollers enough ready we're done with this wow that was some really clean movement great work from grand Pooh Bear over there who Barrett just showing he's not just a pretty face he's got moves he's got skills you know grandpa hey I forgots you activate the star going into this level which would normally help him run through these rings she's gonna lose a little bit of time he's making the smart decision just take it a little bit safe that's really all you can ask for in that situation and by this point the star would have run out so you know it only affected up in that first room yeah Ultra Blues compliment made him blush just too hard oh good Wow nice nice clipped back gorilla Sakura got that clip he's gonna be doing one more clip here this clip is definitely the easiest one in the game it's pretty easy to pull off it's called the everyman clip because every man could do it just crouch and jump up in that corner and you will look through the wall nice hitbox buzzer great one great time my crew is still keeping team boom-boom and I mean honestly Kuro really up the end of that run absolutely I mean being able to recover from dying in that autoscroller knowing how to adjust his strats to be able to pick an additional level a different level to pass over and where to find fire flower just showing the kind of expertise he has in the game not just knowing his own route and what the world record strats are but knowing that enough to adjust especially in a marathon race like this that can be really important really mitigating that mistake the most that he possibly could know clip 4 ah glib there but it really didn't lose a much time so no big deal gets the every clip excuse me young man I'm supposed to be up here done boy [Music] I'm gonna see some more of a demonstration of browsers lots of good hitbox nice fire Cal Godwin oh nice flip by Carew real showcase of talent I think I think the hammer suit who says he's sorry just so you guys know that's such an easy mistake to make as well it's so difficult to make it up those stairs at full speed and all it takes all it takes is hopping off one of those steps so this Bowser kill take a bit longer but at least you can sit inside a sprite which is a cool thing to show off see boom boom getting started on Lost Levels alright so raikou rider is right now picking up off of this one so important thing to note here version differences right off of that record writer has chosen to go with Lost Levels on the Super Nintendo meanwhile Super Sonic is going to be using the FDS version and also awesome to the side nice job by Pierre get a man [Applause] [Music] nice jump thereby raikou rider keep in mind that with the weirder hitboxes with these piranha plants he's really having to deal with making sure that he doesn't come anywhere near them that's pretty much his penalty for playing on the snus version which has a lot of nice features in a lot of other ways but you know he has to deal with these differences in hitboxes you can see a lot of those differences play out as you watch the Super Sonic over there playing playing on the Famicom disk system version the FDS version so our being one me to make it clear that this game moves at the speed of molasses this is a slow version so ok is that why he's playing this I don't know yeah is he trying to give himself a handicap yeah I think so a lot of people know Darby and he's a young boy but somewhere between the ages of 14 and 40 years old generally powered by the strength of chocolate milk he has a couple of Mario World Records and pretty sure he's just gonna bring team Berto right back to the lead here now you'll notice in lost levels you actually get two options when you begin the game you can play as Mario it or as Luigi and there's actually a quite a difference between these two characters so Mario doesn't have his greater four jump with Mario can stop on a dime Luigi amazing jump unfortunately we're not to be able to see him but Luigi skids as if he's on ice so all three players using Mario for good reason you don't have to adjust to different controls make sense if you're curious while we're playing this now we were playing these in the US release order so we just played through the three NES versions no no it's not necessarily for its yeah this this game order may seem a little strange but it was actually optimized for console switches so each each team is only switching consoles primarily one time that's a really tough jump to pull off that's true cuz smw did come out before this [Music] I've been showing even one one in Lost Levels not a trivial level honestly the first word of this game is really difficult there's a lot of precise platforming in one one and some tight windows for those jumps into one of those plans so Reiko rider is going to be playing this run small mario darvin's gonna be playing this fire mario and supersonic can be playing this small fire so we're really seeing the same breakdown in straps that we saw with SMB one not really for for any particular reason there was no agreement in advance to show off the strats it just kind of worked out that way and this race for for Lost Levels is going to be through eight four so they will not be going through the a1 through d4 stages so just straight through eight four if they did want to go through the letter levels they would all have to be playing on the Super Nintendo version Famicom version you have to be the game so many times to grant themselves access to the letter levels so yeah that's right for only okay I think he's just gonna take the backup yeah getting momentum to get up there is incredibly difficult and so it's a real challenge to actually make use of your momentum properly and time it out with the pattern of the Piranha Plants you saw there just worth noting at least one time that the raikou and you just thought darby and do it as well they're backwards jumping into the flagpoles and the reason for that is as mentioned before um you know you you accelerate faster coming off of the top of the flagpole but in addition to that you don't have to watch Mario flip to the other side if they back jump into the flagpole it it totally skips that part so it's a little bit faster so here a little bit of difference here's where darbian is grabbing his fine flour so you just saw a super sonic pick up a1 up towards the end of q1 the reasoning for that is if Super Sonic games ever he does have vegan the beginning of the previous world I'm like the Super Nintendo version much more forgiving you get to begin at the beginning of that world place fire hill from Darby in there using the platform to kind of set himself up to get the fireballs the fireball kills are kind of strange and how they work with Bowser like he actually has two hit boxes so it can take I think as little as three fireballs and as many as five fireballs to kill him so to react and get me this correct frame rule in real like world record attempts it's kind of a difficult to maintain that's a nice backup strategy guys Super Sonic [Applause] [Music] [Applause] so fireworks that work a bit differently in Lost Levels be sure that the last digit of your coins does not match the last digit of your time otherwise you're going to get fireworks very different from right over there's one yeah this race isn't even close to over if you really consider it I mean just the just the spread in the PBS between these through three and with how consistent a runner like Darvey intends to be you know you're looking at you're looking at the PB breakdown for these three runners actually being in the reverse order of the placement in this run right now so yeah Darby and definitely being one of the more consistent runners pulling up third place and being able to close the gap with ryan and raikou we have a 200 dollar donation from anonymous that says thanks for a great week of entertainment guys extra kudos to the excellent couch commentators who make every run more interesting you're welcome [Music] supersonic making it through t4 Coit out of it all his element right now but very much still doing a good job team photo only one level behind team reservoir now so the gap starting to shorten definitely Darby and Michigan flip them to floor but only safe solid fire fire killed by darbian so in 31 we are introduced to the spring word not going to use it but the green springboard allows Mario to hover over parts of the stage we're going to see this more prevalent in world 73 but this is the first place where we see it in the game also if we were playing this game casually do not go down any random pipes there are various various warps that take you back to level one Darby and unfortunately losing a fire flower there he's gonna have to pick up power-ups coming up you know what level you'll be able to get his self power back up I'm not sure I there's a there are plenty of power-ups throughout this run that I think he'll be able to grab them from but I think he's probably going to be frustrated to have to really slow down to in India the bruit taking a death on three four on the fire bar there the gap between all three teams just getting closer and closer now [Music] okay out of the water level which is skin [Music] nicely for Bowser that motor baut makes things is aggravating in that level good job raikou moving in two for one htm' one level apart for games in just keeps getting closer yeah you know a lot of times with these races there's a real risk for one team to just pull pretty far ahead especially with the you know three hours of straight platforming you know one team kind of having a rough run can do that but this is stayed really tight almost the entire time absolutely I think of all of the games that we've seen so far the the game that's had runners with the closest spread in TVs has actually been in Super Mario World you know we're getting into Super Mario World yeah and if this this game keeps closing the gap quite as much as it is epsilon I think Super Mario World is gonna really be exciting launch yeah there was some concern with super mario world everybody's pv is just being so close that it has the finale maybe you know whatever they the runners that order entered in would stay but it seems like that probably not going to be the case in this situation which is really great to know absolutely not [Music] Darvin taking advantage of a trick there where if you're getting a mushroom you're able to if you if you jump right as you get the mushroom you're able to do it an additional Trump jump getting the power up which can help you meet higher up platforms and stuff having to go with the standard AK skill there since we still doesn't have the fire flower back yet driving and supersonic very close that's a really tough jump to pull off small unfortunately darbian though your princess is in another castle so probably gonna have to keep going on on Darby and elusive mushroom now coming up in four four on the right hand side there's a very risky jump at the end of the level you have a one of three chance of getting our really bad fireball so hopefully orangy will be in all our players favors [Music] [Music] I think that little slow down he went for was actually too off that fireball matter again really well done and I think that was a really smart choice to make obviously you lose a little bit time slowing down like that but for the sake of consistency had a run like this I think that was a really clever choice to actually slow down just a little bit to that fireball pattern didn't hit him right when he was over that platform that's a real danger for that castle that was actually not the bad fireball the bad fireball is the one that hits you that yeah now after wondering why there haven't been as many really popular rom hacks of the original Super Mario Brothers one and that's because Nintendo made one and it's this game a lot of us didn't get this for a long time in the US because they didn't think that the US market would be very interested in how difficult it is so we didn't get it until this Lost Levels release I recommend trying it out though if you've never played it because it is a ton of fun and if you play in the all-stars version it's actually pretty forgiving you can just keep continuing from the level you left off home which is really nice [Music] darbian back to full power up [Music] oh alright supersonic have the power well done so four four is a very difficult level can see how difficult it is to maintain your power-ups in this game plumber just not clicking for a darby in there through the wall see some darbian swag with that that Crouch there so here in five one who will see the win very unique element to Super Mario Brothers 2 J we're gonna see it one more again in seven three combined with the green springboards yeah it's designed in us in such a way where it can be useful to to span longer gaps but one of the issues with the wind is it always seems to appear at inconvenient spots so a lot of times you'll be climbing up a staircase in order to make the carriage jump and the wind it doesn't activate randomly or on a time or anything like that but it activates based on your position in the stage and that can be really challenging darbian taking an unfortunate death 5/1 here so back down to no power-ups you can just kind of see how difficult this run is with just so many of these runners struggling with keeping their power-ups or or dying it's a really difficult precise run heavy resets when you're actually doing attempts and yeah it's strange at times you think that the stakes are a lot higher by choosing to play small mario and games like this and and they can be because you you gain the sort of consistency of being able to afford to lose a powerup rather than lose a life but a really well practice small mario runner it tends to be the case that if you're not stopping for power-ups and you already have a plan for what to do small mario at all times it can make it a lot easier to sort according to weight the levels 5 1 darby and in supersonic boat missing the turtle jump if you are able to jump and hit that turtle with the right moment and you can actually skip all the way up there not have to hit those blocks and do a manual climb to get to the flagpole supersonic performed up here tricks in the past age 5 to clipping through the pipe to get both power-ups and then at the end of the stage to access the end of the stage bit easier well done on clipping the hope and it's only available in the FDS version darbian back to full power up supersonic staying as small Mario right now and right there was a great example of what I was talking about before the wind activates at a really inconvenient time you really want to be able to land on the top block of that staircase but if you're not prepared for that that wind or it just catches you in the wrong way it's so easy to just jump right into the drink again as off the Blues was saying the amount of recovery needed though if you're used to small Mario strats be able to stick with that and supersonic taking to death on five four as well [Music] this stage here 5-3 is reminiscent of the puzzle counselors from the first game those puzzle castles do reappear in this game but they also the puzzle cat the the puzzle castle is sort of reappear as stages like 5-3 where you have to figure out how it wants you to exit a room otherwise the room just continues to loop in that case they happened to be a pipe that was just seems barely out of reach five four is one of those levels it's much easier to speedrun it than to play it casually darbian getting hit by the potagooo unfortunately in five-floor going back to small mario again just really having a hard time holding on to that fire power up unfortunately it's still alive [Applause] my co-writer seems to be on the right under the strats right now by using small well yeah what a clean pipe clip from Ryan over there similar to like linked to the past not having that backup of having you know the fire flower can can make you prepared in any situation you're used to running through each level as small Mario whereas if you're used to running through with fire Mario and you have to do several levels in a marathon like this as small Mario it can be a tough adjustment definitely [Music] now these are very similar stages to the the cheep-cheep bridges that we saw earlier in Super Mario Brothers 1 nice great recovery right way out of a traffic jam very nice Reika good job you get the same cheap cheap spawners in these levels as you do in the Super Mario Brothers one chief chief bridges but the platforms are placed in really precarious ways that make it very difficult to make your way through them at full speed six part right here second puzzle castle of the game this is an interesting puzzle castle because often new players will ask well you know with what's the route through this castle and the joke is always you just pick whichever pathway you would never want to go because it's always the worst path through this a nice feature of the all-stars on the Super Nintendo is if you get the puzzle right you get this nice little chime sound first five six for me that's an extremely challenging stage and all it takes is losing focus for a moment to end up running into one of the really long fire bars or something like that and I was an excellent display team boom boom holding on to their lead here lots of different stuff going on with all all three runners kind of struggling keeping power ups or dying a few times but I mean all I hold we're still single yeah runners that are only two stages apart in the extreme yeah nobody really pulling ahead through this levels [Music] that stars a pretty good choice in this stage especially with at this point in the game the hammer brothers now not only are they obnoxious and stand right in your way but now as soon as they spawn they start charging at you if you weren't terrified of hammer brothers before you should be now Darby and getting through the cheap cheap level it's kind of difficult getting your power-ups back in that level because the cheep cheeps are just coming at you from all angles so good job pulling that off and and leaving as big fire Mario [Music] scariest fireball and nice to explore for Super Sonic [Applause] Oh [Music] darbian just went for a very difficult jump to pull off there you have to land pretty far on the right of the moving platform and you have to jump pretty late to make it all the way across the gap pay off what does the ghost made of fire say what does the ghost made of fire sir nope another pipe clipped by supersonic just tremendous tremendous pipe Clips tonight 7:3 is definitely a difficult level casually the momentum for handling this wind and these Springs is incredibly difficult and to optimally do it you really have to hit the springboard on the far right of the tip box in order to get the right cycle probably wise for all of these runners to not go for optimal cycles in this just do that the risk that it caught would cost them if they miss it [Music] that's an optimal cycles in seven three two right here good job [Music] supersonic taking a death on 72 that's Aries having the full all he pointed locked he wanted that mushroom the stage can be extremely tough at the end he wanted that mushroom but grabbing it with the fire bar pressure and you like that really pop oh I actually think that he's going for a much earlier jump okay I see now what's the death a team Berto pulling past team Reznor here still really close all three runners in world seven darbian going through 73 now my car still in the lead okay he made the right choice he slowed down there if he had fallen down that pit he was gonna have to wait for the buzzy beetles to catch up to him in line so that he could have cleared the mountain [Music] knowing his teams in the league - taking a little precaution not always a bad idea definitely not so this is a really difficult part right here dealing with the hammer Bowser combined with the fire bar in the worst possible spot definitely its own challenge the young boy dying on a level 7 3 I think everybody kind of struggling with this world 7 unfortunately nobody able to pull ahead right go kind of keeping a clean head it's just kept his team in the lead eight one and eight for probably two of the more difficult stages in this run eight one can be extremely challenging this game really tests your understanding of a lot of things in this game looks like it's gonna play it safe right here with this hammer brother and I do not blame him one bit yeah loss levels really taking advantage of you needing to know the momentum physics very well to even beat it casually a lots of different blocks or different jumps that you really need to know how to control Mario but properly to do or Luigi if you choose to do that good job I Reiko finishing up eight one there yeah so he he's gonna pick up he's gonna pick up some fire some fireworks right here so the the difference between Lost Levels and super brothers one is in Lost Levels you actually get fireworks if the last number on your timer matches the last number of your coin counter yeah so it makes it more difficult to skip fireworks in mario 1 you only have to look at the timer but in Lost Levels you have to keep track of your coin count and you have to know when you're grabbing coins when you're not grabbing coin accidentally grabbing coins can kind of make you have to think darbian missing the jump off of the turtle shell they're in a one I always take for granted how much easier these jumps are for Luigi and a one oh nice clip by darbian so that right there is just showing off some of the weird physics of this game in in most of the Mario Brothers games I would say but definitely in one in two J you have to deal with this situation where if Mario is moving up or not moving in any direction and he touches an enemy the enemy wins so Mario's gonna take damage or die whereas if Mario is moving down at all he pretty much wins every exchange which is why you see a lot of times here the runners will jump at an enemy and even though supersonic continuing with the swag strats gotta love the Koopa shell at the bottom of that pit just kind of hanging out there right Javad are be in there mykos cleaning up this run with a solid eight for raikou doing a really good job of staying cool when things started to unravel for a bit there and play it a little bit safe keep his team in the lead and really just you know take advantage of some of the mistakes that team wears Noren Berto have been making a really good job setting up his team to be in the lead going into the last game every room in this castle tests you and it's easy to take for granted you know a lot of these runners have been playing this game for a while playing these games for a while but sometimes some things just don't get much easier and this castle is one of them this castle is it's tough the first day you play it it's tough the last day Playa [Music] darbian slowing down to make sure that the time and this coins didn't match they're almost got some fireworks with a void of it [Music] so every see Bowser and also here we see Bowser Bowser Brothers there we go a wonderful run by writer writer gray Ronny personally feeling the sweat of you possibly picking a speed game for me right now you probably should think I'm feeling the pressure there was a $50 donation from a nações that actually said best of luck to write co-writer for the Lost Levels obviously he did a fantastic job so absolutely oh there's the clip in 84 that's it he's gonna be very close going into the final game I mean having both runners at the end of eight four before team boom-boom has even entered Super Mario World this is extremely close and finishes that means we have a 1 minute gap between the first place and lunch waiting right now absolutely incredibly tight absolutely any mistakes done in Super Mario World can you definitely switch first always first we talk about the variance between TV is in this category I think the difference between the best and the worst runner in this on stage right now is less than 20 seconds we're talking like 15 seconds absolutely and the time loss that you can lose from some of these strats some of the some of the harder more difficult stuff you're talking easily a minute yeah so that that's easily the difference between the first place the last place team right now it would not be a shock for first place to go to third or vice-versa this is really coming down to this game here and it's gonna be awesome to see now one thing that I mentioned at the beginning of Lost Levels is that in Lost Levels we actually were in an interesting position where our best runner was in third place and our second-best runner was in second or third best runner was in first play at the time and it's kind of interesting because we're seeing something very similar here Truman does have the best TV but dots is easily the most consistent runner and more likely to end up playing near his PB than the other threes and so we actually are seen a very similar thing entering Super Mario World so uh which levels do you think are going to make the biggest difference heading into this final part of the relay well I have some early insight into what strats these guys are going to be using but I'm not your source but them themselves oh wow yeah you're on the inside when I say inside source I literally mean inside source so the I know what struts these guys are gonna be using there's a few stages throughout this run that are gonna make the difference but I think that this is going to be extremely close all of these runners are really some of the best of this game now one thing I do want to point out before we start this run for anyone who's familiar with Super Mario World there's two main warpless categories in this game there's no starworld which is the conventional warpless category but is not it's not a particularly enjoyable run either to run or to watch so these runners have all chosen to do all councils which is a much more interesting run and I think really more in the spirit of what this 2d warpless relay is all about which is you know beating every single you know world and beating every single boss so we're gonna be seeing that nobody having any issues with a why I three box jump there can be really tough for new runners but it's really easy to learn and these guys yeah the the first world of this game goes the same in every single category so these runners combine to probably have tens of thousands amps just on these stages part of the reason why all castles was chosen is quite frankly we've seen enough autoscrollers yeah we're pretty much I think cutting out every single autoscroller in the run yeah well unless you wanna kind of say well I say that as we're sitting in an autoscroller so I instantly take it back this one's very short compared to our butter birch one which is what about two minutes or so yeah something at 20 seconds some in 30 seconds Truman obviously wearing the freshest hat of the group but I think Aaron easily has the freshest face of them Wow so what does that very nice tell my sponsors it's got nice glasses [Applause] so yes speaking of skipping autoscrollers we're not going to be going through donut Plains too which is a good thing very long autoscroller I will instead will be going through donut secret one the water level just straight up and then to the right yeah so these runners are going to be taking the you know normal all castles or no starworld route through world two now I mentioned the difference in the categories so no starworld is a category that's not required to get all of the castles it's just trying to get the Bowser as quickly as possible without taking the Star Road which people who have played this game or watch this game are probably very familiar with what star road is it's a warp zone that allows you access to a lot of other worlds and it can warp you straight to thousands Council so Truman grabbing the Cape here the Cape is really the thing that breaks open smw has a speed game won't you give us a little of insight to kind of how that tech works so efficient caping is actually quite challenging and it's a lot harder than it looks there's some it's not just a matter of tapping left which is really the reputation of this game gets but every time you press right on the controller Mario's speed oscillates there's I I don't have a good explanation for why his speed oscillates but oscillates between a lot of different values and so what these runners are doing they're looking for very specific visual cues on the screen to try to figure out whether or not they have the fastest possible flight speed and when I say the fastest possible flight speed I'm talking about the difference of sub pixels per per frame you know it's a very very small amount and over the course of a longer run especially a 96 exit run it can add up I don't think that would probably make much of a difference here and this I don't think so with the number of stages that they will actually end up flying over in this category I think it will probably only make the difference of you know ten seconds between someone who's not paying attention to it and someone who is but it should be very small so I'm Truman's on here I'm scaring a p-switch coming through the stage much quicker to go through a water stage when holding an item yeah absolutely yeah for whatever reason I I don't understand the physics of it but for some reason holding an item makes them swim faster [Music] holding an item is actually going to play a bit of a role in force of illusion to where the item you're going to pick up very carefully you need to grab that otherwise it's a major time loss we'll talk about that later amazing how close this race is overall yeah it's so close so after this ghost house just focusing on Truman for a moment right after this ghost house we're gonna have two quick levels that are flyovers not too painful not too big of a variance between different runners but right after that we're going to see probably one of the more technical early levels in the game which is Morton's Castle Lauren's Castle can be a huge difference between skilled and unskilled runners and even really skilled runners it's very easy to make small mistakes that will lose you quite a lot of time in that castle so I'm looking forward to seeing what strats these guys choose and how well they're able to execute them in Morton's castle there's some moving claw the walls move in and out and essentially if you don't hit the proper cycle you're gonna be losing how much time fifteen seconds yeah every single cycle that you lose in morons castle or make a difference of up to 17 seconds that's getting forty stars of shame there so every time you go through the end of the level unless it's the Kessler ghost house you're going to pass through a gate now if you hit the pole on the gate you're going to get so many stars according to where you hit it you do not want to get a hundred bonus stars because otherwise you enter a very slow bonus game definitely you you notice one issue right there with dot side he was trying to go through that door doors are a little bit fickle in Super Mario World if you're running at full speed it's a three frame input to put in a door input so you'll see runners sometimes either slow down early or just you know miss it entirely it's very difficult to pull off right here Truman is going to be picking up a Yoshi for a very specific reason coming there's going to be a glitch that he's going to perform in the very first stage of the next world and that's going to allow him to save quite a lot of time [Music] 263 for Aaron that means he had the fastest flight speed possible coming out of Devlin 3 you could see Aaron like just clearly staring at the screen looking at the backgrounds trying to make sure he could set as a flight speed justice and that's also game 263 you can tell that these runners really know what they're doing when it comes to obtain the fastest flight speed it's very subtle visually it's hard to tell the difference but these runners have been doing it for a long time somebody who's casually run this game a bit I don't even know how they see it but it's it's a acquired skill for sure here we see Truman doing Morton fly he's doing these spin flies and has to meet this exact cycle he's also trying to get this spring bear board all the way up to the top of the fork and looks like he did everything pretty much fine there springboards a good idea because with the absence of the greenness which you have to perform a one tile fly great job I believe one's castle it's great great for castle we're gonna see Aaron and dot's both get an opportunity to go in there while we watch trim and get this cutscene I expect to see mostly the same [Music] wall Datsun trimming a wall Datsun Aaron shows exactly what we just saw I do want to take just a quick moment because there's a big glitch that's about to happen so I want to explain what it is you can you can use Yoshi wings to end a level early in stages that they're available in but they're not available in very many stages and so one option is you can duplicate blocks in a very specific way to glitch the game into giving you Yoshi wings that aren't meant to be there so what you're gonna see these runners doing and I have to explain fast because it's about to happen faster than you can tell you're going to see Oh and dying at the top of Morton that's a very costly test you're gonna see to quick block duplications that happen that's going to allow one of the blocks to change its properties in order to have Yoshi wings inside them alright so the first step is that he needs to grab the yoshi coin and now there's a glitched block there he's duplicated yes no okay are the wings oh alright so he actually managed to get them not as smooth as you'd like but still saving time considerably overall going through the actual intended path through that stage yeah between doing the rest of the stage and the ten seconds of fanfare that you get anytime you go through an exit gate that can save about I think 40 seconds dots coming up here on the same trick so Truman's trying to hold on to the shell it's very easy to accidentally run the shell into an enemy and just kill them instantly he's trying to drop the shell in front of him in order to kill an enemy and then use that and regrab that shell by spinning it dot sketching up a bit of time getting that that was a really really quick as I was adamant that his time on the clock grabbing those wings were three seventy one that's a really excellent just decreasing that gap even more between the two teams [Music] an errand coming up on the same level in a moment the death of Morton's obviously cost them a pretty decent amount of time but he's got his cape back he had to backtrack a bit and go get back to get a cape because of some of the strats in these levels there's definitely still a lot of room for position change definitely we have a 200 dollar donation from bucket of beef that says go team boom boom that's just managed to pull off a technique there called sticky fly if you pull up right against the ceiling it's just the right way you can actually Mario will stick to it across the entirety of the ceiling what's the swag rating on that trick not very high yeah okay keep us posted on six out of ten all right so there are a lot of options that Truman has right now you know he has a little bit of a lead so you can really choose what strats he wants to use in the stage three seven four wings very very nice so you got the initial flight getting that flight speed there actually can be very challenging so impressive that he pulled it off but now he has to make the choice there's a variety of methods he can use to get through the next section with the raft he's going to pick up Yoshi but what he does with it I have no idea Todd's looking over trying to see what oh I know a way with him mmm what happens to Truman so that he can kind of react with his own strats and he's doing the rat skip Wow what was the swag level on that trick that's an 11 out of 10 wow that is an extremely risky trick it saves quite a lot of time it is very challenging to pull off - it combines like three or four different glitches into one and really a big boom for Team boom-boom they're just being able to pick up that time that's about that's about seven seconds faster than the safest strat I think another warm seconds faster than the typical raft fly that that strong runners would choose that's stilt not having to do any strats that he doesn't want to do plenty of other places to make up time in this room absolutely we'll see what he ends up doing here Danse is making a smart choice right now of picking the much more consistent and really not a huge time difference choice you know he is able to make it through there with almost a hundred percent certainty and it really isn't a huge difference in really less swag the considerably less [Music] so the next castle coming up is one that you would not see in the no starworld route this is lemmings castle [Music] magic oppa can be a real pain by not defeating magic if at the beginning makes the strategy a bit more difficult on Truman seems to be having no problems with it though nice form one yeah they were consistent setups therefore making sure that you don't end up getting screwed over by magic koopa all right we see Aaron right now going into vd3 he gives this pic you know he can he can go for some really risky strats to try to make up that time or he can just try to basically continue along and and hope that Truman and dot's make some error so this stage right here you know in a manner of speaking it can be considered an autoscroller you do have to wait on some of these cycles here but you can skip quite a lot of them and Truman did a great job with them we have a $500 donation from BK a says good luck Aaron Sherman and dots off good game team boom boom team Reznor and team Berto [Applause] [Music] you probably have time for a couple more donations no problem we have a forty dollar donation from ballistic Buddha that says set outs to the Yoshi bongos we have a $10 donation from Simon W that says good luck to trimmin from all the way back home remember to be speedy quick and major her proud we have a 200 dollar donation from Pat D that says go team Reznor truman representing the state of ohio which actually doesn't have anything else to do in it but speedrunning from what I can tell a lot of speedrunners from Ohio really cool Buckeye speed bash just happens they got LeBron so that stage looks challenging for everything to line up but this is another instance if you almost have to imagine that the designers of super mario world had sort of speedrunning in mind because it just feels like everything lines up perfectly Truman is probably gonna go for a really crazy stride here yet I like that I did [Music] okay so he's gonna bail out of that straw right there he was setting up for a strike called cookie Mountain boss kill you you spawn a glitched fake whatever you want to call it Koopa kid through a series of really complicated glitches and timings and then you kill it with fire and jump back on Yoshi and the stage ends as if you've just beaten a castle yeah this game has a lot of very broken aspects to it especially when it comes to like ace categories what's what's the quickest time you can beat this game in I think the world record is just over a minute yeah so there's a lot of different weird stuff that you can glitch in there all right so dots is going for it now he missed the a part of the glitch called double tongue so he wasn't in the glitch state that would have allowed him to try it so he's just gonna continue on not losing too much time for either of them Docs has chosen to activate Yoshi flight an interesting mechanic where he's able to fly as if he's just riding his cape like normal but he has Yoshi with him the reason keeps sticking out his tongue is so that Yoshi doesn't turn around yo she's actually not capable of facing the other direction Oh Wallace tongue is our really difficult room Truman doing here you want to talk about that yeah so this this room right here that Truman just got done with and that you'll see from docks in a minute requires a pretty good understanding of how your cape mechanics work because it basically relies heavily on manipulating your flight timers to sort of line up in the right way not sure whether or not dots will go for that shredder with a knot he'll just take the early fire flower and do it without cave this is a pretty common choice to make right here where you scroll the screen so that the fireballs are a little more out of the way it's interesting to see the difference in approaches here between dots and Truman Truman kind of go in for some riskier strats dots playing a little bit more conservatively it'll be interesting to see who finishes on top with that strategy one of the costliest bosses here to not have a fire flower for saves about how much time the fire flower for this one I think it saves about 12 seconds yeah maybe a little more so coming up in this next stage Truman is probably going to be going for forced evolution one wings he's going to do the same block duplication a similar block duplication to what we saw in vanilla dome one where he duplicated a few blocks and then we saw you oh she wings that we weren't expecting in this case he's actually instead of needing to create a glitched wings block he's going to make use of the people in block because of a strange property with the people in blocks which is that they're actually the same exact block as wings blocks just based on what their exposition is so he's going to duplicate a block off to the side in hopes of getting Yoshi wings but he's unfortunately going to have to do it over a pit yeah he could have tried it again but he lost the shell lost the shell so is better off just to move on it doesn't lose a lot of time going for that and honestly you don't save a lot of time going for it either but it's a really interesting strat and done optimally you can save up to 7 seconds so what's the swag rating of that stripe pretty high I think it's pretty high anytime you have a strat that saves very little time but you know can fail catastrophically so once again in the reputation of Super Mario World yet another stage with a glitch Truman is going to try to clip out of bounds using his Yoshi first try every time first first try let's give me a big reset point for a lot of runners there's an rng factor where you can get pushed out attempting that clip and there's not much you can do about it so it's both execution and luck and Truman getting it first try there is very well Aaron is just now wrapping up Ludwig's castle we're gonna be seeing him going into forest of Lucian 1 attempting the wings as well I don't think doc that's the energy we're talking about dots point you know getting pushed out unfortunately yeah unfortunately for this strap for clipping out of bounds the second try is a very common unfortunately for the strat it's actually possible to manipulate the RNG in your favor but you can never end up in a situation where you have a hundred percent chance of success yeah which is really unfortunate because makes it a huge reset point for a lot of runners there's been quite a quite a lot of runs everyone has their war stories of being on fantastic TV pace and then getting knocked out of the wall 10 times in a row and there goes you know a full minute yeah and that clip saves a considerable amount of time I mean there's a long winding swimming level that takes a long time to do as intended there is a easier clip you can do and you could learn at home probably in five minutes but that's still 30 seconds short longer than doing what they did absolutely now coming up on the next one trim inside he's about to perform what we call a Roy fly he'll have to perform flight in between the middle of a bunch Moto's has to perform the dive at the exact right time otherwise it's into the lava all right so we have Erin here going for force evolution one Wings gets the wings and he grabs him great job nice job I am really well done so this stage its intended that you ride the block snake at the bottom and it's an extremely slow slow block snake and very difficult but with some very careful use of your cape you can actually avoid all of the obstacles that are in your way one of the most satisfying tricks in smw to learn I think just cuz it looks so cool and it's not as hard as it possibly looks although messing it up is not good Erin getting very easily enforced of illusion - great job error only one additional clip attempt between three runners is really impressive dots doing really fly now making it looking another great ROI fly from dots I don't know if that was on purpose or not but it made me scared nice bicycle [Applause] world 5 in Super Mario World is very much a sticking point for under so we were talking about that everything seems to be going well so far for all of these runners absolutely I mean we're probably like 15 seconds apart 20 seconds apart maybe what coming up off from sky do you think could possibly sway the the game in anybody's favorite well right now Truman is going for a stage and I'm gonna go ahead and prepare you it is very high on the swag rating okay the reason for that is because it saves one in-game second if you succeed and loses quite a lot of time if you fail it but fortunately it's quite free you'll notice that Truman is now flying through this stage much faster than he should be capable of doing but it's because he was able to conserve his flight trigger as he goes through the pipe cannon so it fired him out at a much faster speed and allowed him to fly on the other end of it as far as stages that we can see that might cause some problems world 7 or world 6 Castle is definitely a huge issue for a lot of runners it's very challenging to pull off this stage right here people have been known to have some trouble it's very difficult so Aaron's gonna really quickly grab another cape and take another shot at it the boy fly is incredibly challenging it takes just one incorrectly performed pump to end up hitting one of those potable and then unfortunately losing your game yeah it's a very subtle movement differences that can make a huge issue for that technique you end up flying through that room Blanc in your head on the ceilings at very specific times and the issue with that is that if you missed I'm one of your bunks then your dive bomb isn't ready for you right when you need it to go underneath all those PO taboos and different flight speeds can affect kind of how long of a distance you cover with each pump which can make it tighter or looser in terms of the wind would be able to do that dive bombs exactly it takes a lot of reactions to kind of adjust all those different factors a special feature for all councils is that you pick up the CEO she here in in chocolate Island - and the reason for that is he needs to hold on to that all the way up to valley of Bowser to where he's going to use actual real Yoshi wings this time intended by the dealers yes we have a two hundred dollar donation from Jose that says my first memory was playing Super Mario World so my first donation during the run isn't incredibly really seem so right - flying through this stage with Yoshi takes a lot of practice it's it's a not a situation that a lot of runners are used to so yeah it's cool seeing these different categories stress some W that change levels that runners are really used to and add you know new wrinkles to them especially world 5 here is a big big one for that in this all castles one compared to no starworld right yeah that's a big issue with Super Mario World is that the variety of different states the level can be and whether or not you have Cape whether or not you have Yoshi whether or not you've beaten special world whether or not you've hit certain switch palaces makes it really easy for just subtle changes in the route or doing changes in the goals to make completely different categories nice pipe flyby ern definitely just as we come to the end of this relay I do just want to encourage everybody to just go through the list of the people running in this relay and just follow them all they're all really great runners I watch almost all of them on a regular basis and they're just you know so talented I think you guys could prolly all notice that from how close this race is up to this point so interesting to note here about Chaco ghost house to stay above this fishing boo in the middle of the stage is really difficult what you're saying is there's a pipe now we may be seeing some catching up from team Berto here with Truman losing Cape here he's gonna have to choose a slightly different strategy here he was trying to keep cancel okay I want to hold my breath without visions of what game I could choose authorblues is just wrong oh you're both in the same castle now getting even closer this is a clear opportunity for Dobbs to close the gap just a little bit he's still got his cape he's got the opportunity now to close this gap quite a lot so where will Truman be getting a new cave well the very next stage right at the beginning of it there's another cave warm and and that won't be a huge problem but playing this castle without a cave I mean hands down in in any no cape no starworld category or in a no cape no starworld run this is definitely one of the more difficult stages yeah as you see dots kind of flying through a lot of those cycles that you normally would have to platform through both of them on the same boss screen at the same time just getting even closer nice I mean we are under 10 seconds apart I think I don't think any of these players are going for sandbar club no probably not it would take them a completely different direction so coming up right now we've got them going to the sunken ghost ship it's a relatively long level but the nice thing is as all these runners are really competent at 96 exit I would say that that's probably with the exception of maybe Aaron their preferred category and Aaron's still really competent 96 exit Joshy in Chungking go ship is sort of like the default expectation for this stage that's the default approach to the stage and so I think that they're not going to have any trouble with that going forward even going into valley of Bowser 1 having a Yoshi is gonna be a welcomed a welcomed reality do you want to explain how they despawn this blue ring coming up yeah hopefully that's what we're going to see so these these boot clouds you'll notice Truman just knocked himself up a year she twice that that was intentional and you'll see dots and Aaron do the same he's basically trying to time out how the boot cloud D spawns itself you'll notice that it fades in and fades out there's a certain trigger in the stage where the boot cloud is supposed to stop appearing but if you can get the boot cloud to appear one more time you spawn a boo ring that's right where he is right now it's supposed to complement the other boo ring that you're seeing right now but basically what you want to do is you want to make the boo ring last or the boo cloud last as long as possible so that it D spawns at the right time to take the boo ring with it both Aaron are both the Truman and dot's D spawning the boo ring with no issue there and I'm probably making the smart choice to to not do the cancel through the crusher it's pretty consistent but there are some flight speeds where just no matter what there's some flight speeds where no matter what he does he ends up in a situation where he can where he won't make the crusher step or I heard valley of Bowser definitely a challenging world in a lot of different categories for a lot of different reasons with the amount of time that's between Aaron and the other runners we're probably gonna see all three of them in the Bowser fight at the same time it's incredibly likely that's gonna end up being where we are at times especially if either of these two end up making even a single mistake throughout the course of the RUS this run we're gonna see all three runners on the final boss of the final game at the same time I think that's amazing five games in [Music] we have a $50 donation from Audis that says I always prefer to donate during Mario runs at gdq gotta love the plumber and friend kill the Bowser's save the animals except the Yoshi's so right here Truman's gonna take Yoshi through this room and he's going to get the Yoshi wings in the next room too in this stage early as mentioned before Yoshi wings obtain the normal exit of whatever stage you you beat with them he's gonna leave the Yoshi behind because he's not particularly useful now another nice part about the all castles run versus the no starworld run is there's a trick called sandbar clip there that is probably the most difficult trick in the Thorin are one of the most difficult and it's right at the end of the Ronny all castles we don't have that run ender coming up here which is really nice I wouldn't want to see a 5-game race come down to one trick that's really difficult to pull off let's see how he gets up to this key right here and a clean slice fantastic so dots uh did a slightly different setup he maintained his flight trigger through the door wonderful job he maintained his flight trigger through the door in the first room and opted to fly through the stage alright so Truman just took a moment to scroll the screen to the left that was an intentional time time loss that he could skip the first two pencils that the skewers Scrolls the screen back again oh my god Wow really really good job that was an amazing this this room in the entirety of the game is probably one of the most challenging and technical rooms to do quickly that's given head Truman just pulled off the fastest variant of that stage that's losing two capes I'm thinking door three four dots done yeah dots will almost certainly be taking a door three in Bowser's Castle it's a slight departure from what you would see from a lot of speedruns but by having jour three he can pick up an extra cake or in this case a cave [Music] Truman is going to actually have the benefit from having both caves to be able to take also a slightly different route through Bowser's Castle than a lot of people see oh you don't have both I thought I saw the second cape in oh never mind no door five this time you know what don't worry about mrs. Truman's race to lose now fourteen Boom Boom's got a considerable lead here and as long as everything goes well with about the fight should be team boom-boom in first all right so he's gonna be going through a door seven in this case [Music] unable to maintain is this wood to keep get fire definitely the dark room no reason to turn on the lights that takes time also like it's a game a little bit it is like a disco light so and we're not here for a party yeah okay Truman going on into Bowser so dots went and dropped a hidden tape that's in that stage [Applause] [Music] oh oh that's tough you want to explain a bit about cape kill yeah so the normal operation for this fight is you want to get the mecha Koopas and then you want to drop them on Bowser's head which is what you're seeing here you can save quite a bit of time actually by hitting the mecha Koopas right as Bowser throws them out so they hit him right on his head as he's throwing them and that's a that's a pretty significant time save optimal non cape kill versus optimal cape kills something like 12 seconds different so I really does add up Truman's going here for a strategy we refer to as ball skip in this phase right here Bowser drops two bowling balls but if you drop the second mecha Koopa or if you drop that make a coupon his head right as he's stopping to drop the second bowling ball do you like forgets no way he has room for that bowling ball truman going into the last phase of bowser man we're getting really close time is going to be when peach appears coming out of Bowser's plum carbon we're very close [Music] dots also going for ball skip here it doesn't you don't need to have cave to go for it here we go and Truman finishes off Bowser team boom-boom when I thought all right dots is still heading into the third face of Bowser right as Aaron's going to be entering Bowser's Castle so we're actually very close still Aaron's going to be entering Bowser's Castle with both of his capes which means we managed to get to see the really cool strategy in door 5 I'm not sure whether or not he's going to go for it or stick with what he feels more comfortable with he he is a very skilled anypercent runner and he may feel more confident door 7 I'm not sure no he's going down right here he's going for the damage boost just enough I have to get past that saves a pretty significant amount of time overdoing door 5 the normal way and saves time even overdoing door 7 the normal way that you would see from a speed runner all eyes on team Reznor come on air and bring it home finish this off [Applause] this has been an incredibly close relay it's so hard to believe that after five games we're going to end up with all of our teams ending within four minutes of one another I think that that's just unbelievable and speaks volumes to the skill and consistency of our runners that we have here today there's not one runner in this marathon that you should not be following this race was really amazing and you like Mario Casas these are your people and 15 of the top 2d Mario runners many of them run a variety of these games they're not just sticking to one Mario game [Music] say yeah guys once again major shots got all of these amazing runners and shout out to our couch commentators giving such a great entertainment also major shout outs to our tech and audio group or getting this all set up for you guys [Applause] no big deal NBD as the kids say what happened to him was actually a very common mistake if you turn around if you don't turn around before you touch inside the screen for the first hit in the second phase you can accidentally pull Mario away from the wall which you would have no way of really knowing that that's happening just because of the fact that he's off-screen at the time so it's very easy to drop the mecha Koopa and not realize that you're not dropping out anywhere near his head [Applause] [Applause] seem Rezanov with 247 Phills team Berta with to 44 23 and Congrats the team boom boom for 243 40 [Applause] [Music] fantastic job guys definitely one of the most interesting relay races I've ever seen this is summer games done quick 2017 and after this we have Metroid Fusion

Channel: Games Done Quick

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Keywords: Summer Games Done Quick 2017, SGDQ2017, Video Games, eSports, Competitive Gaming, Speedrun, Speed, Fast Gaming, Legend of Zelda, Zelda, Super Mario 64, Mario, Mega Man, Hasty Play, Fast Run

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Length: 204min 21sec (12261 seconds)

Published: Sat Jul 08 2017