Space Marine HEROS Kill Team has Me Worried!

this video is sponsored by Squarespace [Music] weekly episode 112 with models of memories of show about nothing and is filmed in front of a live studio audience this is a show where I talk about painting modeling and war game experiences from the week now you might be thinking yourself Jay you put out three YouTube videos a week oh could I possibly have more to say well I do and here goes this week I did tons and tons of prep for kill teams to come and I did tons of experimenting with painting but first do you have a unique skill perspective or product that you want to show off to the world but the only thing holding you back is making your own website well Squarespace is here to help Squarespace the online website builder that can turn that nugget of an idea in your head into a fully fledged crisp professional looking website with dozens of award-winning templates to pick from no matter what you're envisioning in your head Squarespace has the tools you need to make it a reality 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options I don't even care if they've crafted this kill team in such a way that you have to play with only seven operatives which seems kind of crazy considering like Space Marines are six operatives and so somehow this fairly low model count Army is gonna be better than six Space Marines but I need to have all of the options because I really like all of these Miniatures and it Games Workshop crushed me when they made it optional so you only get one of the four coolest options out of the box and like they say in the article like well you're gonna end up with all sorts of really cool bits I I have really cool bits I can get really cool bits I can make Nick 3D print me really cool bits if he would say yes but I I need to get all the options out of the box and so I was thinking about what bodies could I use to replace the bodies that I'm going to use up for this kill team and I hunted through basically everything on games except the web store and I didn't find anything I really liked my first thought was the necromonda hive scum box I thought that is must be the absolute perfect thing because it's four simple bodies separate arms separate heads that should be the absolute perfect thing and it is it's the correct scale it's the correct kind of sort of look but they're very very obviously necromonda like it would work for the necromonda guy that comes in this box but other than that like their their clothing is very tattered and ramshackle and it's kind of like a Hybrid Armor of like Gene Steeler Cults and stuff like that and so even though those bodies would be the easiest way to go about filling out the rest of this box it's not really gonna be perfect it's not gonna give me the look I want because these guys should look kind of Regal and well put together like well dressed they shouldn't look really all messed up maybe I could do a thing where they've just survived a battle and so that's why they're all really really beat up but it's hard it's hard to get chainmail into a proper looking Inquisition for us so I think I found what I'm going to do and it's very odd I'm planning on using the fulgarite electro priests from the adeptus mechanicus for two reasons number one they're about the right size I really like how like their dick Tavern has got like a lot of stuff going on it's kind of got this like calligraphy really pretty looking design to it they look important and impressive the Inquisition does get to take from anywhere they want from like all of the Imperium of mankind and I feel like if you lose the heads and the arms they kind of just look like super roided up bodies and so the idea of an Inquisitor kind of backed up by a bunch of really really buff dudes is really funny to me and I think of these guys especially if I didn't paint them the way the electro priests are painted I don't think anyone would probably pick up on that I'm just basically using these units also I don't see the electro priests a lot in just out there in the wild like on Facebook or on Instagram even though they're really really cool Miniatures I just maybe they don't maybe people don't feel like they fit very well into the adeptus mechanicus or they just looks so weird that a lot of people don't want to pull the trigger on them but I think this is how I'm gonna get I'm going to fill out the rest of my Inquisition forces with big buff Electro priest guys and I really like that they're they're kind of weirdly veiny but their veins are like in circuit board shapes it's a really really fun idea it's kind of like an Iron Man 2 when Tony Stark was like dying of iron manitis and he had like Electro rashes that looked like circuit boards under his skin and it's the silliest thing in the world but I just adore the Iron Man trilogy so much it's awesome Iron Man yeah Electro priests these are the bodies I'm gonna use I'm really excited I think it's gonna require a lot of Kit fashion converting to make the whole thing look cohesive like it makes any sense which is kind of annoying I think the Pinnacle of really cool like not Inquisitor but Imperium of man kill teams is the lucidian Stars Riders those guys are sick they look like a a gaggle like a little roving band of Rogue Traders they all share a look they're very very detailed they are monopos and these are multi-parts so it makes a little easier to do this converting than I'm thinking about doing but I wouldn't prefer just Rock Solid awesome sculpts right out of the gates like they're fine they're fine but they're a little Bland a little bit boring when I read the eisenhorn novels I don't picture these guys I picture you know cooler looking more interesting and more dynamically posed characters than games or shops offering but I have a plan moving forward on the chaos half is all perfect I loved all the new cultist stuff and so this new box is gonna be great it's going to come out and we're gonna play we're actually going to try narrative The Narrative rules for kill team look really really good but we've only really been playing the competitive rules just because we don't get to play that often and so it's hard to like okay these next eight games are gonna play are all gonna follow this one narrative and they're gonna build on how of each other it's much easier to sit down and be like I want to play custodies today I want to play adepton's mechanicas today I want to play Tau today I never want to play Tau but Sean only wants to play Tau it's pretty rough but speaking of kill teams Games Workshop showed off a new kill team thing that is both pretty darn cool and really really really really really frustrating Games Workshop is coming out with another batch of Space Marine Heroes I think this is a Space Marine Heroes series four I don't think it says but it is definitely series 4 because first we had normal Space Marines and then we had Terminators and then we had the death guard that everybody went absolutely crazy for because they were really really cool Miniatures I bought a bunch of them and they're like the coolest things in my death guard Army an army that's already full of really really cool things oh my gosh the thing I absolutely love about the uh the series 3 models is that it came with helmeted and unhelmeted heads for the death guard and the death guard don't really ever have helmetless heads and I really really like it and so I've like been searching on like Facebook groups and eBay for people because everybody glues on the helmet because like yeah the helmet's pretty awesome and it's much easier to paint and so I just want to get as many of those helmetless death guard heads as I possibly can I just want those for my collection but anyway this is series four and and its primary Space Marines and it's pretty cool I like the idea of these it's nice to go into a Warhammer store and see a product for like under 12 because that's fairly unheard of I'm gonna guess the paints are technically a little bit less than that but it's nice just to have a little thing there so that like you know I imagine a lot of parents are like going into the Warhammer store and they buy like one Space Marine Heroes for their kid and then they get themselves something really big expensive but it's fair it's fair because you both got something I like Space Marine Heroes a lot they're really really cool and it's a great way to get more interesting sculpts out there into the world and like on eBay so that you just have more options when you're constructing your army and these models look great you get a whole gaggle of primary Space Marines of different types you get some people in gravis armor you get some eliminators you get a new Space Marine Captain who is really really cool I like the new Space Marine captain powerfist and Plasma Pistol I'll probably end up picking up this guy because I missed out I think like two years ago there was I think a a store birthday captain that was a power fist and Plasma Pistol that was really really cool and I wanted it and I happened to be visiting home and so I was at my Warhammer store that like I used to go to when I was a kid and I was there I happened to be there on the store birthday I was like oh my gosh this is perfect and so like right before I was gonna head back to Wisconsin I stopped at the Warhammer store to pick up my bounty and I was and apparently you just pre-order it that day and then it shipped to the store and you can pick it up and I'm like I'm not gonna be here and the manager I know really well wasn't there I probably would have just like figured something out with him for him to hold it for me but I missed out I missed out on that guy that totally doesn't matter I already have a bunch of spaceman captains but I like this new one this new one is a is pretty much the exactly the same thing and so I'll probably end up picking this guy up um the rest of them are just normal primaries and so I probably wouldn't get them because I I play Warhammer 40K and kill team and so I need like the full amount of stuff although speaking of kill team this is actually a kill team and that's really great Space Marines are the most popular faction and so it's good to have a lot of options for Space Marines originally when kill team 21 dropped there was the compendium which had a lot of options for Space Marines you could take normal Space Marines Scouts and intercessors and they each were kind of their own separate kill team ooh and gray Knights and Death Watch Death Watch is still a really fun kill team I play it a lot it's so much fun because they have the um the death watch Bolt guns that have different ammo options and so every single time you get to shoot you get to look at this chart and be like um do I want to turn off his cover do I want to get rid of one of his saves do I want like you get you get options and it's really fun overall I think that the um the more bespoke teams are a little bit better than the death watch one from the compendium but I just like playing it it's a really really fun team I've actually beaten Sean with it which is amazing in the article it's a little bit unclear how this makes up a kill team because there's it in the entire range of this series four there's seven different sculpts I can't imagine it's going to be a seven body kill team because Space Marine kill teams are always six body including like the chaos bass marine and the death guard like you don't get that many options because each guy is so so big and this comes with like a captain and a dude and gravis armor so there's no way that all seven of these guys are going to be balanced against the team that's only six guys so presumably you leave one out what I hope is it's completely you're completely free to take as many of each operative as you want it's probably not that but that would be my preference because if I buy Six of these things to put together a kill team I'm probably not going to end up with the entire set and it oh and it does feel a little lame to just buy a set like this that's kind of meant to be kind of a blind bag thing I I don't dislike blind bags I think they're kind of fun because usually it's just like a dumb little thing and you open it up and you're like oh cool I got the purple Deadpool that's great but if you're meant to buy an entire pack of blind bags and then you just open them up and you have them all it kind of takes that fun element out of it and then his Games Workshop because usually what happens with these things is that they're just sitting on the counter at your friendly local game store or at the Warhammer store and you just pick one randomly or they pick one randomly for you and then you get what you get but here because it's a kill team and people love kill team You're Gonna Want the entire set and so how is it gonna work to make sure that everybody who wants it gets the whole set I mean it's Games Workshop so they don't seem to care if everybody wants one to make sure that everybody gets one which seems wild to me there's always this conspiracy that Games Workshop is creating artificial scarcity but I don't know if that really makes a lot of sense because Games Workshop prices are pretty set in stone like they're never like oh well we can only make you know 20 000 of the new edition box so we're gonna charge 500 you know we're gonna inflate that price to meet to to match like this the demand for it they the price is the price like we know how much everything is gonna cost and we know that every single year it's gonna cost just a little bit more so I I assume that they literally are just their manufacturing can only output so much stuff and the demand is too high so hopefully they'll make some new factories or something but I don't know this is a really really weird thing I hope that you just you just buy Six of these things and that's your kill team and so it's two eliminators two Space Marine captains and then two normal guys with chain swords I feel like that would actually be a pretty cool kill team because like a kill team of all eliminators a kill team of all gravis guys with the big giant gravis bolt guns six captains that it couldn't possibly be six captains because power fists and plasma pistols are really good in Kill team and so if you're not forced to take some of the options that aren't as amazing like chain swords and normal guns I can't imagine the kill team working out mathematically it's a very odd thing and also what's crazy is that this is a thing for kill team which is a very competitive game that people go really really hard on there's big kill team tournaments all over the place and people always want to be using like the newest coolest stuff like No One's Gonna Be able to get their hands on this even when it's out it's only coming out to like Warhammer stores first and then later on it'll be made available at an undisclosed time and place so how are people going to get the thing that they want to play it in the game that they want it doesn't really make any sense it's a cool thing but man I have so many questions although maybe it's fine that I might not be able to actually get this because I have a lot of kill teams in the works a lot of kill teams I actually need your help deciding like the order of operations which one is going to be up first I have the adeptus are bites the Warhammer 40K police the chaos blooded legionnaires the traitor Guardsmen the league the photon slash chaos beastman that new box that just came out the adeptus mechanicus and I I just got a new kill team in the mail I want to put together a tyranid kill team and I want to be only with the Retro 2nd edition kill team models I have so you can in the kill team in the hive Fleet kill team you can take three options you can take tyranid Warriors gaunts or Gene Stealers and I have retro jeans dealers and now I have retro gaunts I don't have retro Warriors they're really really hard to get online but I would kind of like eight gaunts and three Warriors I feel like that would be a really interesting kill team especially with the synapse rules only being available in the tyranid Warriors so if you run gonson Steelers or all Steelers which does seem to be what most people go for is an all Gene stealer list you kind of miss out on synapse but I don't know I don't know if I have it in me to track down all those tyranid Warriors because usually it's like one Warrior 30 bucks three out of the four arms make of it what you will and so I don't I don't have a lot of retro bits I have a lot of tyranny bits but not retro bits and I it needs to be all retro so of all those kill teams I think the one that I'm most excited for is the adeptus mechanicus I am heavily converting and kick bashing them and it's taking me forever because there's so many things on the painting desk in between them and me but I have like three and a half of them put together out of like 12 operatives so of those kill teams which one is like the most interesting which one would you like to most see a video made about them I'm probably gonna make a video about all of these things but which one is the Once which one's the one with the juice which one's got the spice maybe retro tyranids although these guys are gonna need a good long soak and acetone to get this paint off because one of two things is gonna happen either that paint comes right off or it is going to be an incredible amount of scrubbing and picking at it with toothpicks to get all the old paints off but technically these guys are slightly wrong because they have the old Spike rifles which is I don't think an available gun to the tyranids anymore but I'm just gonna call them the normal guns and I actually did manage to get some of the special guns I don't know what gun that was supposed to be way back in second edition but the gone through actually they're not good at shooting but they're not bad at shooting I it took it was a long I took it took me a long time to decide between the tourmigons or the ormygans for this kill team because armagans are they're not good but they can actually hit pretty darn hard where the regular gaunts they're not that great at shooting and they're not great at fighting but they're eight dudes eight dudes backed up with synapse and Tyrant Warriors I feel like would still be a pretty formidable force on the tabletop I'm not completely sure I might also need to try out those code to Arms paints like literally have the old Games Workshop paint to paint the old Games Workshop Miniatures I don't think it'll probably matter because I tend to think paint is paint is paint is paint it doesn't it doesn't really matter you can just match colors but might be a fun experiment to run and speaking of running experiments oh boy did I do some experimenting this week I gave oil paints another try I've been watching a lot of James waffle and he did a series of painting up these Mantic Armada ships which by the way Mantic Armada fantastic game we've been playing it Sean has just been wiping the floor with me but it's a really really fun boat game and so I've been trying out oil paints because I'm not good at them I'm I've over the course of 10 years I've gotten decent at acrylic paints but all of these other little things I just struggled with and oil paint is another thing I struggle with but I try to follow his tutorial as closely as possible and I feel like I actually had some success I painted up four of these boats in an afternoon so like about five hours of painting for four boats I feel like that's pretty darn good and even though these aren't painted perfectly I feel like the things that I was able to do on these is things that would have been really really challenging to do with regular acrylic paints just kind of getting the blending and the shading in exactly the areas I want because I could have done this with with acrylic paints and a lot of speed paints and I probably would have painted up a little bit faster but they wouldn't look as dirty and grimy like that's the kind of the thing that oil panes offer is this the the easy easy blending also they're still wet and I did these about two days ago they're not wet I would say they're a tad moist I would definitely not want to put a varnish on them right now I'm probably going to give them at least one whole week and then we'll I'll double check to see if they're ready for a varnish then but you know five four ships in an afternoon I could paint entire I could paint up my entire bacillion fleet this week and that would be pretty darn cool because we may or may not have a lot of armada stuff ready to go the SEMA okay I have a question if anybody out there plays Armada are the sea monsters broken the Trident Realms because they seem really really good some of their special abilities seem oddly powerful and of course Sean has been Manning them so it could just be like the Sean factor in this but it seems like you know compared to the basilian and the orc fleets the Trident Realms are really really powerful and kind of struggling to defeat them so any information would be very much appreciated oil paints I'm having a really really good time with them trying out some new things definitely going to be trying out a lot more things with oils the thing I'm really struggling with because really the way that these are painted up is I base coated the whole thing a tan color and then I just painted on a black mixed with brown so it was really really dark and then I took makeup sponges and wiped everything away and that worked beautifully but when it came time to lay more colors on top of that it just they just wipe away like I I paint I painted white on the sails and then it just wiped away I don't get how to make it stick like I get the oil paints behave very differently to acrylic paints they're kind of the opposite but I'm just had such a hard time actually painting like it feels like a really cool special effect when you lay on a base coat and then wipe it away because it just stays in the grind like in the recesses and creates this really lovely Grime it's kind of like a wash paint that you can really really manipulate but then when it comes time to actually paint paint I really really struggle I tried laying it on really thick and it's it just sort of sat on top and then I tried to kind of blend it in and it worked for the most part I tried laying it on really really thin and it would just kind of flow into the recesses that I already really liked the shading going on in them I'm definitely gonna have to experiment a lot more with the oils I really like it I think they're really really cool and I think they offer up a lot of possibilities because my dream my dream is to be able to paint any thing really really well really really fast because I want to play every single war game under the sun and I want to play them the way they're meant to be played with every single thing painted properly and so right now I can paint anything with acrylics but it takes a long time other interesting things like oil paints definitely speed up and offer different things you can do in in different ways and at in different amounts of time but they offer their own challenges and uh yeah definitely going to have to keep trying but four ships five hours I'm really happy with how these turned out I think they are pretty darn slick and hopefully because you know we all know that painted Miniatures perform better on the tabletop and so hopefully with my painted basilian Fleet I will be able to defeat Sean and those pesky pesky Trident realm ships Sean may be able to ruin my fun we're playing war games but you know what he can't ruin that's right our patreon over there we have a new STL train pack every single month this month we have the orc Brewery The Unofficial sequel to octares complete with new wall elements and a goth rocker stage you can get the whole pack on our patreon at the EOB terrain tier all hosted by Comics Games and Things or you can find our tribes over at my mini Factory and we have new merch in the form of stickers EOB stickers you can find this on our website Linked In the description below let me know in the comments below what kill team you want to see me do next I'm going to be working steadily on all of them and I hope to have all of them finished before kill team season 3 starts I have to have them all done before kill team season 3 starts or else nothing will happen but that's just a goal of mine thanks for watching

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Length: 24min 7sec (1447 seconds)

Published: Fri May 12 2023