SIBOOR Voron Trident Build Part 9: Finishing Wiring & Firmware

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and we are live good morning happy Wednesday everybody it is 9:00 a.m. my time uh for an early Wednesday stream let's see who's here today we got Kenneth uh so early I agree I I rolled out of bed around 8:00 ran in here set everything up poured a cup of coffee and here we are so I agree it is early uh local maker how's it going Erin's here uh 3D experiments stepen uh tan engineering's here hey monkey uh monkey butler Labs RS makes Jose's in the house uh Peppers Adventure good morning I um I'm here I'm slowly waking up uh for anyone that wasn't here last week the reason why we're doing an early stream is cuz my family my mom and dad are visiting and so uh we are going to take Jackson to the aquarium little a little bit later on and then go grab dinner so um that's why we're doing an earlier stream today so thank you everybody for joining me this morning hey Lisa uh Emon nicknick you need to chug some hot sauce that sounds awful uh I'll be back picking up lunch sounds great morning hey Reggie uh so the game plan today is that we are turning on the Trident and I don't see how that's not possible because I've set us up for Success um to recap kind of last week and what I've done since last week we started on the electrical last week but because we did this sort of inverted let me show you guys a side shot because we did this inverted Electronics normally Electronics you turn the printer over um to access it from the bottom but we are using this mod where it's top accessible um we had to install the skirts which took a fair bit of time I hadn't actually planned on installing the skirts last week's stream but we needed the bottom panel on to install the cable race so um we got the skirts on last week we started doing the AC wiring which is uh in the back uh in the back oop do we have what do we have manual focus on there we go um a few the the AC wiring which you started back here um and then I ran into some confusion when we were getting the AC wiring at the bed uh which I've since figured out the kind of confusing element of it was that well a couple things uh so for one I've added since um there's so there's three wos on this side and now there's two AOS on this side that I added uh and so these are the thermister wires one ther wire the second ther wire uh just because I I don't fully understand why that's not the default um all the the ground the the AC and the AC wires on the other side are quick disconnect uh but if you have your your if you have your thermister wires then you still can't remove the the bed easily because you have the wires running down uh delar says I use a Molex for the the so maybe that's maybe that was the intention to use Molex wires which does makees sense you don't need uh wios for uh the therer wires they're just little tiny wires they don't need it but um I like quos and I've got a bunch of them so we did that uh the other thing that was a little bit head scratchy for me was the way the fuses let's turn this around or two pin jst gotcha I have those I just I guess it's one of those things like I don't use them very often um and the wios are just so simple that I kind of default to them since I have them but yeah I guess that that totally makes sense me and uh Steve did that uh for the uh vbot build so the thing that was a little bit confusing to me was there is a fuse so I don't know if this has a switching fuse but it had a um like a physical fuse that will pop if it gets over a certain temperature and break your connection but the confusing part of it was it was wired it's like wired into the bed which I'm used to seeing like um the I think it's usually the Live Wire coming out of the bed then passing through the fuse um and then the other end of that uh wire continuing but the way it was set up it's like wired inside the bed so it was a little bit confusing um but I got that big basically figured out so we only needed our two um two AC wires because the the fuse is in line already with one of these wires and then um our Earth wire and I did for napin who I don't know if he's here this morning but um I did end up removing the ground wire um and adding some Loctite I don't have there was what was the someone was recommending some kind of a nut or a washer that basically would prevent it from from coming loose from vibrations I can't remember the name of it but I didn't have that so I did use a little bit of Loctite which I don't normally do but I said I was going to um on top of that yeah I yeah it's funny I saw Nero was streaming this morning to be fair I don't normally stream uh in the morning anyway so it'll it'll be probably a little bit um quieter of a stream than normal my 11's pop when iess at 105 so went higher with 120 or 130 I think that I checked the rating on this um and it is one it's 125 so this is this is uh yeah it's a it's a hotter uh fuse so I also went ahead and ran the wires down the cable chain I what else have I done um I did the because we'd already done this before and again I was trying to sort of make some progress uh Hey morning nice good morning makerm mind I did run the cables up here as well so these the tool head wires um we're going to be going with can buus I'm only using this now because it's what the kit came with and I'm just building it sort of stockish is for now so um yeah cable wires have been ran through here through here cable chain um I also swapped out if anyone um didn't see last week we ran into a bit of a issue with this PCB which you can do without if we want to do sensorless homing um but this guy which is the second Focus it's their XY um limit switch PCB the issue was that the X um the X switch was was kinked um so I don't know if it was a bad solder job I I like I think likely it was a physical impact that hit the switch which caused the legs to shift but it was at an angle and so the plan was going to desolder and resolder but um I ended up ordering some pcbs from uh XR bunker and um I ended up getting this in quicker than like before I even got a chance to to fix the other one it came in on Monday and I hadn't even resered it yet so this is not the one that came in the kit it's essentially the same thing but it's a purple PCB and the the switches are not uh at an angle uh let's see large large thumbs yes uh morning GPS are already almost dark here oh man 125 is good uh just so nothing melt yeah I was in town I was in the town over for me so my house was shaking was it earthquake we cross streams oh no I I didn't know I didn't know there was earthquake this morning did you see the Everest frame I shared in Discord no I have not seen it yet did you tag me in it yes home stretch Nessy um so yes we've done that the the uh guide called for some kind of a strainer rela because if you get the ldo cable chains they have this sort of like t- shape on the end of it that you can zip tie wires to this doesn't so it says that there's a printed part that you can put here that's a strain relief it didn't come in the kit and it's I don't think it's life or death so um hopefully I'll install it afterwards but it didn't come with it and I don't I don't think it's that big of a deal um so the next thing we're just doing a quick overview because again I I want to since I'm not doing this whole thing on stream want to at least bring everyone up to speed so uh the cables are let's move this physically there we go let's back out okay so cables are ran down this side this is all of the um uh this is the I think this is the B motor so B motor and all of our tool head wiring go down through here and I thought it was funny the the length of wiring they send for this harness is nuts like I I un unwrapped it but it seems like the intention is to have it run so I have it ran in a cable Raceway all the way down here then I have it jump across over here run in a cable Raceway all the way Midway through here then jump over here so um I originally was going to I was debating I was actually talking to my mom and dad last night about I was like these wires are nuts um maybe cutting and Rec crimping and shortening them but the reality is is because I plan on going can bus I don't want to I don't want to deal with shortening all these guys okay um so we're just going to run them as is I'll do my best to have sort of zip tied some to keep them neat hey Turtle good morning uh Hey Orion CB um yeah the purple's it's like a chrome it's it's a really nice purple so yeah the wires are nutty long but it's seems like it's okay with the cable Raceway so uh the only other thing that was not included in this kit uh as far as printed Parts goes was the the little twist guys that that go into here that are basically zip tie anchors um there was only four of them and you need more like you need three for over here uh I will end up printing more but I don't have them now so for now this little uh this this side only has the um the a motor four wires coming down so I'm just going to leave them kind of loose at this point so uh I think that pretty much brings up to speed uh the game plan today is just to handle DC wiring um and then hopefully power up and do our initial testing uh I did have let's see so long is better too long yeah I agree with that no 100% too long is better than too short because I already had this okay there's another now that you mention that so this is the thermister uh for the bed and I I cut and soldered um extension onto it because it was too short so I agree I'm glad I only had to do it with this cable so far and that the rest of them were too long I that that's a good point too long is better than too short I would never too short would really frustrate me so uh one thing I have not done I've everything is grounded other than frame so I've got bed I've got bed grounded power supply grounded I even grounded the SSR um I cannot seem to figure out what I haven't put a ton of thought into it but what the best place is to ground the frame on the Trident so I know Aron's got like two or three of them and I think there's a few others in here that have them so I'm curious as to where um the grounding point is cuz the only place I can think of is where the um where the frame kind of bolts into each other on these these ends but it's not threaded and I would have to remove the screw to basically shove it in there um so I'm wondering if most people are are drilling a hole into the frame somewhere and using that t oh so just a teut is all people are using I was debating on that so for the anodizing though are you scraping are you scraping the area where you are um putting the teut then because I I don't think with the coating on here uh anywhere you can reach ldo uses a serrated washer sanded a bit serrated washer interesting I don't think I have I don't think I have a sted washer let's see I don't remember on the 2.4 kit what I did uh okay got you so it's a spred washer going into the frame bolt and teut okay well that's good to know then um so I will probably just find a little section then um where I will just sand maybe under the chain back here I don't I don't remember uh Delmar offand the 2.4 build what we did it's been a bit I mean it's been I think six plus months at this point hey PF warning TT warning or just scratch the frame yeah I think I'm just going to do a little scratch on the frame um might have to get some sandpaper or I've got files so I guess we could probably file I just it's going to be difficult this is the area I'm thinking we'll probably do it because then we can just take the wire from here and just have a teut right here that probably makes the most sense oh just an oversized screw into tnut that's a great idea okay so that's what it was yeah I think the 2.4 that I think that's I think Reggie's right I think that with the 2.4 it was grounded through the terminal block and then that basically transferred it to the um DIN rail right and then that transferred it to the frame I I don't remember I honestly I don't so okay let's see let's go with um let me first find a ground wire I think I just pull some more out of here yeah cuz I was thinking like I've done I've done the grounding of the frame quite a few times but they've all been different like the Mercury 1.1 uh used an Ender five frame and there was already a couple of threaded either threaded holes or just holes through the frame where I basically just shoved up bolt through the inside of the frame and then a nut to the other side and that's what I used I try to tag you Discord but it's too hard okay I'll take a look I'll take a look after then uh screws the bed for D rail okay anodizing can be a little bit of an insulator yeah no that's a good I I I mean now that you're saying that the amount of times I've built a creality printer and they give you a screw that's a little bit too long for the spool holder and you go right past it and then it goes into the frame it'll it'll sure that will conduct so let's let's do this this is a great I'm glad I asked because again I was I was thinking last night I was pretty tired it was probably 11:45 at night and I was like trying to prep some stuff for today um and it just wasn't coming to me I was like I'm not really sure I was looking around the printer and I was like I'm not exactly sure what's the best point soth I'm glad I asked because that is a lot simpler than what I probably was going to try okay let's see I think I've got some ring connectors down here big old ring you know what Steve Steve had me purchase some ring connectors I think for the VZ bot build let me see let me see if I've got any in this tool box over here um those are Fork those are Fork those are nope I guess I was wrong see ring this is probably let's see cool this will work okay two ug duas like a screw uh Hey morning Jeff I hear Jackson making silly sounds he this last week I got to update you guys on on everything hey what's up muen uh I might have missed it but is the SSR grounded it's not so I was confused because I think every single SS maybe I'm wrong but I think that every SSR pretty much I've used in a printer has been grounded via the den rails from the metal that it clamps into um this this is not that's not the case with this so I can show so I I ran I ran a let's see if you guys can see this zooming you can kind of see it uh right there so there's this the screw that basically is on the bottom of the SSR that connects it to the metal mounting system so i' I've got it's got its own Earth wire right there um I ooh speaking of uh vzy stuff nice I am yes very happy with it I still need to do more I'm using it to print Parts like the whole Clockwork was reprinted with it um all of the uh reverse zotor mounts for the reverse uh inverted Electronics were printed on it the uh extensions for the D rails I've been using it to print a fair bit of Parts um it's super fast the 6 nozzle makes it even faster that I'm running on it and uh I do need to still tweak some profiles but I've been really happy with it and I also place an order for all the water cooled parts so uh the answer is yes I will be water cooling it it'll still be a while um Steve had ordered his water cooling parts a while back and so I was like uh I actually was just 1111 we talked about this last week there AliExpress sale going on and I happened to see Melo post something and so I um was checking on their their uh product page and so I ordered like I needed a new heat break I needed a new adapter for the hex sort that um that replaces the front cover with a water cooled ver version uh and I got Mellows and tire water cooling Loops so yeah I got all the parts for it um hey morning anister I just sent you a picture of the frame and tagged you right this time okay sweet all right so this is what I've got um I oops I realized I'm not showing the right this is also very sideways all righty so this is what we got is just a little ring on our grounding wire and I'm going to um I don't know if I'm going to use M3 or M5 screw yet let me see if I can let me see if an M5 will fit through this um I'm probably going with an M3 screw because I don't think I have an M5 long enough so let's do this let's shove this onto here is this going to go into yeah okay so I'm using an M3 uh by 8 mm screw which I just tested and it's longer than the slot depth so it should poke into the frame it should scratch the uh not motor cooling nice um so I hadn't even thought about that until you just said it right the second so um initially definitely not because I just didn't order the parts for it but I don't anticipate it will be that hard to to add that to the loop once it's all set up so I'm not going to say it's not going to happen but not initially at least okay so let's pop this um you guys can't see what I'm doing which doesn't do any good for anybody uh my V is currently outperforming both my born yeah it's it's a killer printer like I the build is challenging I don't think it's the printer for everybody um but for someone that wants some for either someone that's got previous builds under their belt or someone that's looking for something that's just I'm going to call it a monster but I mean that in a really good way um it's it's a rad printer it's a very very rad printer okay um so teut is going right here and then we are going to take our M3 screw that I didn't misplace already go to man one of those one of those angles again where very difficult to uh for me to see what I'm doing and show you guys what I'm doing okay so M38 socket head going through the ring into into our teut and we are just going to clamp that is okay that is um that is far too big actually um that's wild I thought for sure it was going to be a closer okay so eight unless we're stacking a bunch of washers or throwing a nut we could do a nut actually I think that's what I'll do let me grab an M3 nut to place on it um this kit have M3 nuts hopefully it does not that is surprising M3 nuts here we go nope yep okay let's back it out and try it again I used M5 I do I have uh Boron Boron m530 m510 I don't have I don't have an M5 that'll work for this uh M4 oh but I don't have M4 peanuts do I um bear with me checking the m510 yeah this is too let's try it let's try it with a um but I had no oh okay gotcha he used a fork I could do that as well um I mean let's so let's back this out I might end up swapping this for an M5 at some point if I find a appropriately sized screw I just don't have any at least in here okay so I am going to place a knut on the end of this which will also be kind of nice cuz it'll help sandwich the ring terminal onto the screw hopefully hopefully that'll give us still enough to bite let's see o while I'm thinking about it um I'm going to be part of the 1440 um charity stream this weekend okay that was a fail um I'm going to be part of the 1440 sorry up front but this is not a good ground anodise is an insulator and if you don't stand it you will not get good contact you don't think that by scratching up the let's let's see let's see what this looks like if I it's pretty scratched I don't know also not entirely sure that this I guess I think it's some kind of anzing but that's it's a pretty good scratch I mean like it's it's test with multimeter okay [Music] um where is multimeter I'm getting continuity [Music] I think in this case we're going to be okay should be zero should be zero ohm yeah it's it's showing uh let's see it looks like it's showing zero ohms yeah zero zero ohms I'll show um ah hey [Music] Maple I do agree though that this is something you'll want to check right like um my preference would be to have an actual slot that I can just um thread into directly into the frame but yeah we're getting continuity in zero ohms you a screw up .5 too long yeah yeah I certainly my recommendation though if going this route which um I don't actually no here we go yeah my recommendation if going this route is to definitely test it so let me really quick try to get this part back on um we'll have to check it again especially cuz I shifted the I shifted the teut out of the way see I can get it lined up again with the uh where is my smaller there we go uh definitely test it with Main's power yeah I'm also not saying this is the best way to do it I'm just saying that in this case I don't have a um very good place to thread this on to second okay so let's let's see if this is any good the bolt size is kind of the key thing I think here one one scratching scratching the anodization with the bolt or sanding it like was recommended and two making sure that your bolt um is the right size to where it's pushing in let's see okay let's check uh that looks good bro cool thank thank you uh wait is this your idea now no this wasn't this wasn't my idea bestbody you use a long set screw like a stud and then attach a ring with a couple nuts yeah that that is a good idea all right let's just see so I know for a fact that the SSR is grounded let's do one there let's check up here yep we are should be good so I've got continuity but let's check let's check on all right so we've got one end on our SSR Earth which is tied into all of the earth and then I've got the top corner of the frame where there's some scratched paint and we've got zero ohms there we go uh I see why you're doing that way it screws into the frame through the rolling yes exactly um basically just started off with with an M38 with no nut on it and that and then just did Steve's four or five ugad duas um and that scratched SL put a tiny little dent in the frame but completely removed the coating of paint or anod anodizing and then used a nut uh because we tried it with an M38 and it was too long uh the screw was too long so the the U ring connector was spinning and I didn't like that so then we used a nut to shorten the screw and now it's it's I mean it's it's not moving anywhere I don't doesn't have any problems yall blame me should be F this if you want to stretch the thing you can use insulation meter with voltage indication but really Overkill yeah I'm I'm fine with this um okay so let's let's do some DC wiring um I think we'll start by actually running all the W so the thing that's going to be a little interesting as well though is that this say is B on 2.4 um and so I was installing seven seven steppers last week and naen was like hey why are you installing so many steer um drivers and so I I'm hoping that everything will be correct um but we'll see I'm going to try to follow this as much as I can the only thing we deviated from is that we're using a 5vt uh Von tap instead of the the 24v inductive probe so we'll see uh nicely okay so let's see hot end is going in here so let's do that first um how's everybody's week going I can't believe it's already November 15th for anybody that's celebrating Thanksgiving what man I was dang it I don't know if I should start a food talk already I was going to ask about what everyone's doing foodwise for Thanksgiving but okay so with these long cables I think I'm quite literally going to Route so let's see uh uh uh wait do they not have here we go hot end I only see one of my hot end wires why is that morning what is going on here h e z okay we're off to a great start Thanksgiving yeah I guess in Canada I learned how easy it is to squirrel now that I did a v0.2 tear down yeah it's um my the only way oh is this it I think I found it I think this is it wait no this is not it what is this AB I am very confused right here um there should be two should be two wires that have ferals on them and there's only one with a feral so did I somehow not get a oh it is The Rat's Nest right chat does not help yes I I agree but yeah it's the only way I could not squirrel out during a build is if I just ignored everybody but that's not fun so yeah I don't understand so the only thing I can think of is that I somehow someway in this craziness uh lost lost a wire I have a hard time believing that let me let me see I don't even know what the easiest way to since all the wires are red I can't just I can count the wires that's kind of a bummer um okay well unless anybody has any other ideas okay let's go through let's go through let's just see what we've got here okay probe LED y n stop so this is both Y and stop this is extruder motor this is hotend fand this is yeah so this is one of our one of our hotend uh heater wires FS what is FS filament sensor that's got to be what it is filament sensor uh this is likely a end stop yeah this is our xend stop this is ab ab X stealth burner okay so no th Mis I'm just wondering if they somehow put the incorrect connector but I don't think they did a it's frustrating um it's super frustrating actually so the only thing I can think to do is like the only thing that makes sense is I don't think they missed a wire so it must have been somewhere in my crazy traveling of wires I must have missed it so maybe we okay let's let's do everything else then we'll come back to it right cuz if that wire is missing regardless I'm going to be running an additional wire through everything so we might as well plug everything in and go from there that's I think the best plan of attack it's just a little frustrating I think the first thing I grabbed is quite literally an issue this morning um so main board cooling time two so it wants us to wire those together but we don't have an air filter do we have an air filter fan the wiring on this is a little a little confusing um let's also check on all the wires that we still have in this kit so that way I've got everything in front of me so I'm curious to see if there's a splitter because basically it wants both of our side fans to go into one spot but there's two jst connectors so is there a provided J combiner there's not okay this is going to be fun uh yeah I'm definitely enclosing this trident Power Supply Plus - 24 volts so we need to run two okay let's let's do that that's one thing we can do let's undo our cover here we're going to be running 24 volts twice to this it looks like I don't fully understand why that's the case but uh it says power supply plus minus twice so we need these uh is it jst or screw down terminal on the board it's it's screw down terminals on the board so those jsts are I'm probably just going to cut the the issue the thing I was kind of hoping for once I saw that was that they had a combiner because the the length of wire on the farther fan is this guy um oh no no we got plenty of wies so I'll probably just end up twisting them together and shoving them through that's that's very likely what I'm going to end up doing for now at least uh okay let's get the Phillips and I think that I'm missing I think I'm short one of these guys uh which is a fork to um feral and I'm going to need a second one so I'm probably going to have to probably going to have to do that positive voltage negative voltage also we are going to be doing our polymaker giveaway it'll open up in 50 50 minutes and then we'll draw it 30 minutes after that so we will still be doing that okay we need a tiny little tiny little Phillips I'm not above turning a ring terminal into a fork I do have a I use Flush Cutters for a lot of things okay so at least the board's marked so we got negative makes it easy positive I don't think I'm going to worry about uh wire management too much today let's just get everything plugged in so we can get this thing powered on that's that's the strategy for today is just charge forward um yes so I don't have unfortunately I do not have the another wire so I have to crimp we have to crimp we have to crimp crimp crimp let's grab wire uh we don't need as much as they gave us let's go roughly that's plenty go with that give it like exactly I did Run 2 24 lines to the board and to the motors separated the current and also makes it easier to upgrade to 48 volts oh interesting what I don't know is there is there a physical switch or jumper on the board that you have to enable to decide where the drivers draw their power from okay let's rip our [Music] wires where did I put it's it's always like that no matter how much I prepare there's always something there's okay cool not sure on the spider we'll leave it as is well unless there's a call out for it we'll leave it as is I'm assuming it's probably set correctly nope bro [Music] okay so we need what we need forks which are going to be over here this works uh oh jeez you're streaming now yeah we're doing an early stream today uh my mom and dad are in town they've been staying with us for few days and we're going to take today's my day off um because we stream I dropped it uh so we're going to take Jackson to the aquarium all right okay one down mp3z have high voltage ders yeah um that what it was in octopus Pro yeah I've never used this is the no this is a fc board right so this this will be the second FC board I've used I used the um gosh what was it called the Cru Crucible is that right I did a video on it the vzer it's a little bit too long um is there v0 specific board is it called crucible that kind of sounds right uh has anyone had a linear rail be nice and smooth and then after cutting get kind of th I have never cut real you think the L kit for the v0.2 is worth the price I mean I don't know what the current price is of them but Elio makes really nice kits there's no denying it whether it's worth it as far as cost goes really comes down to like what you like everyone assigns different value to things so if the upgrades if like I mean it comes with if I'm not mistaken um it comes with a Revo um are they coming with again I don't know I I would look I mean I would weigh the differences out in terms of the bomb um and see oops and see if you're planning on doing a bunch of upgrades at some point or if that's a possibility then it's debatable whether it makes sense the quality components are still really nice it comes in that kit but again if you're swapping out if you're swapping out a bunch of stuff so I'm walking around all over cuz I've got connectors all over the D place um if you're going to be swapping out a bunch of stuff uh then it might not make sense to it might not make as much sense but yeah I mean their frames are really nice the anod anodizing is gorgeous the I haven't had issues with their components they've been they're they're high quality there's no denying it okay you know what hopefully this is not too big of a we go for this um I don't think it is these are pretty big screw down terminals I've had issues before where I've um put a put a feral on a wire and then it's too large for the terminal but these this board clamp down terminals or screw down terminals look relatively big okay so let's make sure we are installing this correctly hey uh Aon is the Pandora's Box is there a full-blown build guide for that or no is it is it mostly CAD it looked like I saw a screenshot or a snippet and it looked like there was a a build guide which I wasn't aware of I bought a cybor e zero and I wish went with ldo I got ldo for 2.4 and couldn't be happier with it my my cybor v0 has been great I granted I'm modding a lot of stuff on it but not because I had to the biggest issue I had with it was the hot end was not good and the extruder gear was also incorrect they swapped it out which is kind of the same situation with this guy I still haven't reached out um about the extruder gear but yeah the large BMG gear was just not correct there's okay there's a manual I am I am not a full fan of the order of steps on some things gotcha see a lot of kits that are covering or converging on their bomb especially electronics and screens which makes it harder to Warrant the audio cost yeah it's definitely a nice kit and they take good care of you um and I don't think you'll buy it and be disappointed it just dep does it make sense to spend that money for you and what your plans are and that's going to be a different answer for everybody but yeah like the two so I built the 2.4 ldo which was a great printer and has been a great printer I'm doing a video on it uh probably probably next Saturday not like in a couple days but the following Saturday will probably be the video on the 2.4 um I did the the ldo switch wire and then then a v Zer and I've been pleased with all of them uh let's going here why are we not going into our home there we go yeah I'm not going to really worry about cleaning up these wires now okay so I am going to for now at least um take so this is for one of the electronics fans it's for this guy I'm going to cut the ends off of them I'm going to strip both of them and I'm just going to twist them together and shove them in the terminal for now long term I might just get some kind of a um I might get a PCB that I might get a PCB but we'll see for now I'm I'm just again for these little fans that are they're always on I'm just going to show them in the terminal so far except for a b minion I've only Built large format printers I have yet to build one of the smaller ones what do you think would be the best small voron to build well the only the only small Boron is the or or you mean you mean it doesn't have to be would you like a dirty matcha I would love a dirty matcha um anything is yeah my first B zero I self sourced it was a nightmare rather I'd rather self Source anymore there's so much and even L kit that I don't use yeah I get it depends on right like I've got a bunch of boards extruders and hotends just kind of hanging out and so I don't necessarily need those for builds so it just depends I suppose um and even PC yeah pcbs I guess as well one leader are you you mean not just um Vons right you're talking about including including the print printer for ants really like the Micron looks awesome my sideboard kit came with the wrong set of wiring and I had to redo all of it did you reach out to them Vinnie because they've been awesome at taking care of any issues salad fork is salad fork is definitely a cool printer I also like to build a printer to my own taste instead of just a clone of what everyone else has that's fair hey morning Luke yeah it just it just depends um there's no right or wrong I I saw sourced my first vzer using the um the bomb from vor's website and a little bit of deviating from that and it was it was a nightmare I ordered the wrong stuff I paid an arm and a leg in shipping Le let's do these longer so I can twist them I paid an arm and lean shipping and it just it was not I mean I think my first V Z cost me I'd have to look but it was thousand thousand is it was a thsh dollars for it and I would I would say say that the the um both of the kits the ldo and the cybor ones were better than what I self sourced it's just expensive like I I remember I ordered from granted again things were a little bit different this was 20 20 2020 20 2021 I I don't I can't remember if it was 2020 or 2021 at this point um but the pandemic was going on so things were just slower to get and more expensive and I remember I paid $50 in shipping for my stepper motors from steppers online it was the only option they offered at the time was DHL Express and I went with it so it was I think it was it was expens I mean it was just really expensive zombie streams like every other day it's not daily but I mean it's most days uh let's see okay main board cooling two fans it's going into the second two so we are just again in this instance because of because of how this is I'm just going to take both of our wires and quite literally twist them together and shove them in the terminal long term I'm probably going to do something else I'm likely going to get some kind of a PCB that will combine combine them into one but for right now I there's I don't have anything uh that's the thing with sell Source all the shipping cost set up o yum hi Delilah hi Aon thank you the uh I did the coffee this morning but we were at of creamer so I used the half and half and it's super strong guess what I was yeah super yeah I I I did but I had a sip of it it was like woof thank you you're welcome uh that's the thing with self store yeah the shipping's shipping is the most expensive part of it it's it's cool if you can get like if you can get your stuff domestically like for the US from fabrico or west 3D or KB 3D or anyone else I that I'm missing um that's a bit better cuz at least you can sort of alicart your your um components would just pay one shipping amount for pour it but yeah when I was doing it it was just all from all sorts of different vendors from AliExpress I ordered directly from stepper online I ordered directly from the um the name I can't ever remember that makes the silicone heaters whatever the um whatever the company is that makes all the the bed heaters that I always forget on stream USB connection between the pie and the board or you are I don't know I'm going to use whatever they recommend so we're now we're done on this side the only thing we're missing is our heater wires because there's a missing there's a missing heater wire in my wire harness I'm only seeing one feral connector for the heater and so the second one has to be here I'm wondering if it's somewhere in this in this cable Raceway and I just need to go back for but we're going to plug everything else in we'll come back to that so for now we've got our side fans plugged in um so these two we've got our uh signal for SSR and then we've got two 24 volts in so now we can start start moving on to pluging stuff in um let's see M you guys like this kovo yes it's not even a difficult name it's just every time it's one of those names where every time I need to remember it especially on stream it slips my mind but in any other time I be talking about printers I'm like yeah kovo yeah that's the one so I had pay shipping from kovo just it all really adds up you need to channel your inner Steven crimp ferals onless wires you I very well might I've been playing around with um a a Galo fiber laser and I bought some single-sided copper boards and I don't have the settings dialed in yet but I really want to experiment with making some super simple pcbs and one of the ones I wanted to make was actually a a 3 jst connector board where you can just put 24 volts in and then it takes 24 volts from two connectors so um if I end up figuring out the correct settings to basically remove the copper and drill holes through the copper board then that's likely what I'll end up doing it'll be kind of cool to show off look it I made this I've used art on mine it's great okay I was I was thirsty Aon uh PF thank you very much for the five gifted memberships let's air horn and we'll give you some cheers thank you very much okay let's let's plug some stuff in so the the thing I'm not going to be plugging in have you have you used a mantta board with a caned tool head yet I haven't seen much instruction UNS set up might be a good video uh yes and no so I'm running a can board with a manta m8p but it's prean Manta so it's using a u2c so no I'm not I don't have any running via canbridge um I don't have any canbridge I may have made a mistake but I have a channel Point Redemption for me to take a jagger bomb all right let's plug things in so we've got the end stop which we're not going to have probe okay so it won wants us to plug probe in here my concern with that is that probe is likely intended for 24 volts because the intended probe for this is the inductive probe that we're not using I set up an map re with can 2 was mostly painless on I figured out I needed bridge mode okay so you did Bridge yeah I did I did Bridge with a uh what board is that that is one second oh this is Gemini the fly Gemini I got canbridge running on that recently it was way more work than it should have been and I don't remember what I did to get it working but it was mostly it was mostly all user error I mean poor documentation played a role into it as well but um there was I don't remember what I I was talking to Ted about it it was months ago actually so okay so we're not going to install the prob yet because I want to see the pin out as I'm pretty sure it's going to be 24 volt since that's what's intended yet we're using a 5V we're using a 5volt v on tap so let's not do that then the next one over says to use ZN stop which we're also not using because we're using our probe as our ZN stop yes we're using um tap for our ZN stop then we've got y y end stop and xend stop so those ones we can we can actually do X end stop I'm not even going to attempt pretty on wires right now let's just get stuff plugged in okay X and stop is going to be the far outer right here bam and then y end stop is right here and Bam okay X and Y end stop did you get a 5 volt only hat PCB so that's what it came with and then shammy sent over another a different one A different board but it also says 5vt only so yeah it's a 5vt it's a 5V tapboard is zoned out for a second I I only run 500k oh who's connected the most can to Clipper any idea the upper limit would be and what networks gotcha yeah I've only connected one device and I always run 500k and that's works fine if it reads 2.4.1 it can be 24 volts I'm pretty sure the board hasn't big words on it 5vt only yeah it says 5 volt only on it and pretty big uh pretty big bold words so I'm going to I'm going to trust that uh looking through another couple meetings sounds great we'll be we'll be streaming till noon so two more hours um and then we're going to the aquarium so I think the issue was it was working oh that's right it was it was a stupid issue it was that I didn't realize that once you get to your uu ID it's not like your USB ID where you can just see it every time it completely disappears once it's in your Clipper config so I kept thinking I was losing connection but it was all working fine it was just me not knowing and it hadn't seen that ever called out before that's you're right all right Ted it was it was user error I was right okay so now we need Hoten fan which is going to be 1 two three four from that side let's get all of our little heat shrinks so I can read what these are 24 volt th Mister par cooling fan you park cooling fan I saw that one Park cooling fan is right next to it so one two three four five let's see one two three four and [Music] five bam hot in fan is you bam next to that we've got the mister 24 bold ground the m goes right here let's move you out of the way goes right here I call out my guide once it once it's used it's taken yeah I I I hadn't experienced it or I hadn't noticed it prior even though I played around with Canon before um and it was very confusing it was super confusing I I can't remember why I was looking back at I'm like why is this why is this not happening it says Ox what is is that for is that an optional mod is that saying auxiliary fan okay so we're going to not do that we need our hot bed temperature our heat bed temp is right here so let me go ahead and crimp these wires these wires were not long enough to reach the board let's see the other annoying thing is that the ab motors have different connectors than the connectors on the board they're I think Dupont connectors these duponts or not Dupont these look like Dupont to me we need microfit so that's do you do we know if I can shove a Dupont into a microfit for the sake of today and I can do the crimping later on just to test it all out I feel like I've done it before but feel like I've done it before I know it doesn't lock into the tabs on it but I think it makes a at least a contact if it fits if it fits it if it fits I sits if I fits I sits is that what it is I don't I don't remember okay so let let's crimp these four wires I just think that watching watching crimping is so super boring God I hate D connectors yeah we might we might just shove a deot into a microfit for today I will correct it I'm not going to leave it but again it just it takes away time from us being able to power this on one second the hard you [Music] okay this is these are too long I stri too much water one second there we go it's still probably more than I need but I can't even see oh my gosh it fits or use a glue gun just do it yeah we're going to do it I T to R wires into the raceways individually rather than trying to stuff everything raceways after they're connected I I normally do two uh one lader and that was originally my plan for today until I discovered that we're missing until I discovered that we are missing a hotend wire yeah I agree one by one is also the better and the since we're going can buus I'm going to be pulling out all of this drats nness of wiring too so it's going to really clean it up when we do that but I I definitely agree that running them one by one will give you much better control of positioning where they need to go and cleaning it up versus me right now basically you know I'm going to be pulling them down and tucking them one by one I don't I don't necessarily think this is the best way to do it all right where is there we go too much wire again come on see color the Trident bought the FC and want to throw the spider board at the trash oh no don't say that what's the issue with it don't say that all right let's get a little GST connector I like that style of crimper you have I think the parallel Mo of your jaws gives you a better crimp yeah this um I don't like this for I was what's the um pH the small ones is that the pH jst let me see yeah so I don't like them for jst pH I was trying that when we were doing the the vot build the Steve and I and for some reason I just was not getting solid crimps but for standard whatever I can't think what are these the XTS is that what they are this kind of more standard ones it doesn't I think it's the XTS they they work F it's a fantastic crimper it's the IIs uh 3 3220 m i I bought the pa9 based off of Greg's maker Corner Greg's maker Corner's recommendation when I built my first v z and I really excuse me I actually really like them they were the best experience i' had with crimpers up until that point but the uh Sten mentioned that they they're made from like two different places and I think mine are from the cheaper cheap Rec construction because the teeth on mine uh were damaged when I was crimping and so I I can't use them anymore I instead use these well I still use them kind of but they don't do a very good job anymore there was a recommendation Steve made for an IIs compat like um comparable variant that I've been meaning to pick up and I just haven't yet okay so this is our bed THM which is going into hot bed temp is right here maybe why are we not going into her there we go okay I know Steve likes to do the double crimp everyone has their own style yeah yep already ordered an octopus board uh and the canvas extender serves nothing H be careful the deck lid off while running you lose the directional cooling from the fan steppers can overheat oh interesting okay okay what else what's next we've got 5 volt and led so that must be for our tool head this is 24 volts not 5 volts this is 5 volts uh AB CT s burner 5 volts okay I don't know what is AB equals CT s SP equals 5 Vols what what is that I don't know what that means a little bit confused and some of the wires we've got left let's see what we're dealing with here we M yeah ah so undecided I don't know what AB equal CT stealth burner 5 volts is I'm thinking it's probably I'm thinking it's probably for the LED but that seems like an odd description for it this is FS which I believe is filament sensor which I find odd because we don't have a filament sensor I guess oh you know what the toll head board gives you the option for oh shoot I need to P okay I think that I'm running the tap from the filament sensor pin out on the on the breakout board so we'll have to check that so we've got that we've got our hotend one of our hotend wires stealth ABX ABX yes stealth burner equals ax why did they choose okay extruder motor I know what that is let's plug that in might be the 5vt line of the tool head board it's possible do you think the dragon burner is a better option for the for the Mini S bur I haven't ran it actually uh I've had it printed out forever I've got like the full setup for it on my desk sitting looking right at me I haven't ran it from everything I've heard I'm going to say yes I think it's got better Cooling and a lot of options I know that if if um if Maple's here uh he really likes the the dragon burner and I know zombies running a dragon burner and I know that um 1 2 3 four Aaron's running a dragon burner so they can probably speak on it but I think the general consensus is yes that it's a it's a better tool head yeah this wire is so long all right Dragon yeah I say I I know Maple really likes the dragon yeah I I pretty much have only heard good about the dragon burner so you find me someone that doesn't like it and I'm I want to hear the reasoning okay so we got the extruder in what are these Fork 24 volts in ground why are there why do we have these coming from our tool head board guys and then we've got probe all of these wires are not super straightforward to me one second let me change this L uses the breakout PCB below deck to make it easier what's the board that's used in the Trident manual it's probably a big Tre tech board right like the let's see wait that's not right that is showing Spotify weird let's see so it should be a d there we [Music] go what you take on the cybor v0.2 CNC version I I don't I haven't used it I know that Mitch Mitch 3D who sometimes hangs out here is is a big fan of it or has been a fan of it at least yeah I don't have much input just because I haven't used it make sure you're looking at the version two no this is okay so this is the FC board so in theory I should be able to follow this let's let's see this yeah I don't have much input on it just cuz again I haven't used it oh poor Jack all right let's let's do this start from the beginning yeah that works out be careful the borders yeah I need to I need to it's food time okay let's start here my favorite kind a cheese that's a tough question on the regular probably proon it's a really nice like mild mild cheese okay botor let's so this is a motor this is B motor let's see if I were to plug in I'm not a f of the spider board just looking at it yeah we'll see we'll see if I end up using it long term for now we're using it but I have a um I have a maker based monster board that I that I could use as well so I just want to see this is the direction so we've got black wires on that side and this is a b all right [Music] okay but that's also why I left can yeah we're definitely doing can bus again that's that's a definitive thing Big T Tech's actually sending a uh S one of their stealth burner can bus boards okay so B motor's in place I'm again not crimping jsts on it we're just sticking with the DuPont this we need to figure out I don't want to I don't want to plug this in wrong because I swapped boards to one of XR Bunker's boards so I have the tap plugged into the 5 volts which I think is which I think is going to be my filament sensor section of it and so I think we're going to just not connect our probe at the board which is 24 volts cuz we're not using we're not using a 24volt probe so well that that's going to be the that's going to be the biggest potential fail point for me is is damaging sling with that so that's one thing I want to focus on X end stop y end stop we have plugged in I think okay so yeah they did switch this board around a bit which is what Delmar was saying hotend goes there which we don't have so we can't this frustrating yeah we can't go based off of this I'm using a 20 just 2209 it's all they had uh posting link to F Ling on their site in life okay yeah let me oh you guys I didn't realize you guys weren't looking at what I was looking at give me one second I'm going to grab the link that Delmar is sending over because the the pin out for what I'm looking at is incorrect so this is the correct variant of it version 1.1 uh fck does it say the revision I can't actually tell 0609 [Music] I can't I can't freaking tell what revision oh here we go version two it's big on the side version 2.3 so features great Hardware okay 2 point there's not even a t there's no t there we go 2.3 wow this is there this is confusing there is a lot of revisions okay stealth burner 2.4 for this is 2.4 so this is Trident right no spider 2.4 spider 2.3 for oh my God I love it okay here we go this looks better I suppose um okay uh cooling fan we've got hot end fan we've got and then next to that we don't have that this our case fans right in our case it had them had them put them right there we're gonna stick with how that is on ours okay let's get our steppers plugged in yes someone um the drivers so two of the drivers uh over here I think are intended to be for high voltage I I'm almost positive this is for ab uh you can see if I go like this they actually have different colors on them let's see so you've got red yeah so it's the ab and I think that it's basically to let you know that they're the high voltage ones it's just I don't know why they need so much um so much of a different height but I believe that's the intended purpose is to let you know that those are those are your high voltage ones okay so let's plug in the Z stepper plugs wiring has been rough on this man it's just not been not been super straightforward okay so we've got a motor which is here we've got B motor which is this guy such a Rat's Nest and that is going like this okay then we've got a gap followed by extruder cool then we have Z Z2 which is right so this guy okay then we've got rear which is going to be somewhere right here there there we go yeah I don't really as far as routing right now I'm kind of over I just want to make sure like get everything plugged in see that this thing is working cuz I have some nope that was incorrect so this is this is left so left should be one more over there we go rear is this one okay so we have stepper Motors plugged in check cool but it's the it's the rest of the wires that are kind of confusing so XY end stop great Z end stop we don't [Music] have [Music] if you're using 24 volts you need to connect the 24volt pin and 48 volt pin and use the jumper plug that we provide did they provide that I don't know that I've seen I'm not convinced they provided that um could it be inside of here no I don't cuz they didn't give me the box with all the parts right they just gave me hey BB's the wiring looks horrible to well it's funny because this morning I had spent time time I had spent time and routed the wires like I don't want to say nicely but quite a bit nicer than this everything like all the red wires were nice back and forth but then the issue is I don't seem to have I'm missing a hot end wire so I started taking things apart which I'm going to take all of it apart we got to figure out what the heck's going on with with that wire did it somehow get lost in the shuffle I don't see how that's possible I sent you the schematic on Discord yeah I mean again we're going to do this big wiring harness is going to go down a can at some point here I'm just I'm like perplexed that that there's a missing hot end wire so the only thing that makes sense to me is that maybe they put maybe they put an incorrect connector on it cuz all these wires are the exact same so maybe maybe they put on something else all right let's open up our toolhead and see what the heck we're doing nice said he sent me something as well just get it functioning especially if you're going to move to cus yeah that's my thought as well I see you're copying my method ofing no I just kind of frustrated to be perfectly honest with you because the images don't where did you send it nice oh DM this is the is this the same open link do you have a bigger a bigger image of that or a direct link to it okay so this is the thing you sent me is the exact same as the print out that I have here if you've got a bigger version of that or the URL um I will definitely take it yeah it says the power supply jumper needs to be inserted otherwise your X and Y cannot run but there is no jumper and I don't know what kind of connector that is let's go through I'm going to go through the everything that's in here [Music] I don't I don't think they supplied it I'm there's a zboard I don't see where where it could have been supplied so that's fun cuz we won't be able to move [Music] our oh do you I I have not done cust with an rj1 let me open this up thank you nice that's not what I want to do I guess that is what I want to do there we go okay yeah so insert so maybe it is just a jumper that I can I don't know like the pins are kind of weird on it but I mean I could I could probably rig something together it's just frustrating that the thing is not here yeah it might be my I don't know if it's microfit 24 volts coming directly from The Wire 24 volts you only have one wire oh interesting oh so this okay oh so this is slightly different than the one I have then so if you look at this this one only shows the one hot end wire which is what I've got in front of me on this one in front of me that they sent with the actual printer itself has a dotted line which does symbolize that something right but there's no there's no information about it so okay cool well thank you thank you nice so at least I know let's go let's go back down let's go down low we've made one more one one more mystery so it wasn't my it wasn't me losing a wire in my Rat's Nest it's that there is quite literally only one and it's going towards the top so it is [Music] you what a mess this this fire is so bad okay that's one one more it's yeah it's also for 2.4 so they sent the wrong wiring [Music] diagram PCF hot bed probe see the Mis zero what is CT CT do I have anything that says CT therefore you have a problem with a 5vt sensor wait what the 24 volt is coming directly from the fire one wire with the h z what do you mean I have a problem with the 5 volts there is there is still 5 volts coming off of the um tool head board though because for the LED so it should be okay okay CH CT chamber the say optional still super confusing man there's so many wires still coming off this so this says isn't this to me this looks like it's saying ab x n stop stealth burner ax I don't I just wild no it's a bridge in the breakout board for 24 volts I'm using a different breakout board the ice I'm not using I'm not using a um I'm not using the stock breakout board that there's came with I just I'm at a loss as to what a lot of this other stuff is that's not plugged in from the tool head board we've plugged in let's just just break down if not a multimeter Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah from the tool head board though we plugged in so fans connected fans connected hotend is not connected so is this is this wanting us to take 24 volts in ground directly from the power supply is that what I it doesn't make sense but there's Port connectors on it [Music] gotcha so they want us to take 24 volts directly from the power supply yeah this is it's just I don't know if it's if it's that I've just used to Big Tree Tech setup or if it's just that sideb routed things way differently but just feels completely different than I'm used to w in things yeah this is this is rough man all right well yeah that's a first for me i' I've never grabbed 24 volts in ground for the tool head from the power supply directly it's yeah it's different it's different it feels very it feels I feel like very uh like Uncharted Territory for me when it comes to how this is all wiring together it feels it feels wrong so okay well I mean we've got um a Bent Fork the wiring is so messy even by my standards this is this is pretty messy all right so we've got you in there okay we've got should be another Fork where where did you go where did you go there you [Music] are yeah I don't like that they use red wires but yeah okay so that's right okay so we've we've taken up all of our power supply Terminals and we have we have shrunken down we've shrunken down our mystery cables okay so we have got FS which I believe stands for filament sensor we have got LED so LED I should be able to install where where do doesn't want the LED it doesn't say what is this [Music] no okay where is this this this is this [Music] okay this is for an After Burner isn't it this is this why I'm not seeing it or is this for this is the same so confused man that seems loose what seems loose what do you feel jumper on on Trident can be skipped just move the motor drivers to the 24volt socket remap pins triex needs six to on power oh I see what you're saying gotcha because they're connected to those the only reason why you need that jumper is because they're in those special driver slots and because I'm not using the far two on the other side I can just move everything over if yeah that's probably what end up doing I'll do one final pass for that jumper and if I don't see it then that's what we'll end up doing what what do you say the Spade you put on the power supply seems loose no it's it's not it's not loose it might be the um it might be just the way it looks but it's it's they're secured okay these are all we need left I have no idea where the LED wire goes um actually is there Okay I lied LED looks like it's saying it goes on the very two looks like it goes here okay and then I want to say the filament sensor or FS is supposed to go to the 5vt to the 5vt line I'm almost positive cuz it's a single oops let me show this so it's a single Dupont and it looks like it's going to be going here that doesn't fully makes sense either actually um PR your link it's the yeah it's it's because it's such a thin thin wire in there it it looks like it's loose but it's it's at least um it is crimped in there is this the link you sent me sent you send me a new link this looks like the same link where'd you send it uh hey what's up gixer hey if you have not hit the like button I have not mentioned it today hit the like button also it is giveaway time we've 10 minutes past it so let me let me get our giveaway going uh we'll let it run 10 minutes after just because I'm a little bit late so post this in chat I cannot find the page back [Music] no so in 30 minutes we'll do our poly maker giveaway yeah so the things we got left to figure out are FS which I think is filament sensor probe which we're not using so I don't technically need to plug it in we can just so that way the breakout board I guess has it but I want to verify I want to verify that I didn't plug the 5vt tap into where probe would be because then I damage something and then we've got AB CT which we think is chamber th Mis and then AB XS is that X end stop but we've already got we've already got that plugged in elsewhere so maybe some of these aren't needed yeah I'm going to pin the link yep yep yep thank you it was behind the little Emoji thing so I couldn't do it okay so EXs is xn stop so we're not using pin message Y and stop X and stop so I've already PL so okay that's part of it is not me part of it is me being a little little off off but uh this is xn stop and then this is also X end stop so that's confusing and then it looks like this is saying um chamber th Mis chamber thermister and stealth burner 5 volt but it's not the right connector so it's like all right let's let's next thing yeah I agree the labels need to probably be shrunk okay let's let's open up our stealth burner and do what Delmar has been saying and poke around with our poke around with our um multimeter a little bit and see what connects to what because yes take a quick little sit break does the tool head have an X end stop pin it's a great question that is that is the question yeah this is this is uh this is a rough like compared to the cyborg v0 .2 and the ldo wiring this is rough um I think a big part of it is that there they made whoopsies like this says that it's for a a voron 2.4 so that in itself is confusing and it makes me wonder if they somehow gooped and also sent me like a voron 2.4 wiring harness instead of the Trident one which I know would be really similar which is why we're seeing so many similarities but there are some very clear differences like why do we have two X limit switches so where mods outside the kit cause headaches yeah but we didn't really do mods outside the kit the only ones we did was we swapped out a 5vt well okay so there's some correction to that we did do tap but they had also sent me tap so they okay that don't yes you're right on on that one tap complicated things a bit although they knew I was doing tap and they had sent me a tap as well um and then the tool head board is should be a one to one with the only difference being that we are with the only difference being God I can't even think straight though we're running 5 volts for the tap versus versus 24 volts they sent me Trident wiring for my 2.4 yeah so far I think pretty there's been some small nitpicks with this kit so far the wiring is by far the biggest WTF like it's this will definitely get they will get feedback on this I'm something tells me it's old news and they've corrected it because again this is an older kit but regardless this is this is what was sent so okay so this is what I had it plugged into which is uh let's see so I'm I'm taking one end of this and touching the plug for probe okay so yeah nothing there's no continuity so if I go over here how come there's no continuity on either okay that's confusing I'm not getting continuity period on that one let's see so this one says FS which I think is filament sensor which I believe is going to be 5 volts this should be we should be getting and this is a real pain in the butt one second I got to like pin this down come on okay I I don't understand why am I not getting okay yes okay so filament FS is indeed where I have um FS is where I have tap hooked up to which should be 5 volts the the other thing I'm curious about then is CT so abct says stealth burner 5 volt so let me see if I check for continue on that maybe this maybe chamber th Mis is also used or CT is for um providing five volts to the toolhead board doesn't seem like it make sure I've got a proper okay okay so we're figuring out things so stealth burner it says AB equal CT it almost let me show you let me show you guys this it almost looks like so I don't know if it's a mistake right like there's two things on here AB equals CT so maybe for After Burner you get a chamber thermister and a stealth burner used for 5 volts that's probably what it's saying that is very confusing like I mean it seems like there may be reusing wiring harnesses but it's it's you see this and there's not a clear there's not a clear definition of what it is so that seems to be what it is though like this is the 5vt line for the stealth burner however this needs to be a Dupont so it won't it won't actually fit where it needs to go and then the uh filament sensor is what we are going to be needing our so this is our um tap Okay so we've got two things figured out what's left what's the so the last two Mysteries are so this this one says for the a After Burner it would be an xend stop and for stealth burner it's Ox what is Ox aux usually that's a side blowing fan I thought but that doesn't make sense for that doesn't Mak sense let's see this is cybor Trident do we see the word ox I don't see it Ox would be the xn stop on tool head or spare Port okay so it's probably a spare spare Port then okay so we're just not going to plug that in okay so the things we need right now are to plug in tap okay so we're going to plug in tap is going to go where CT is because it said CT or um no I'm it's I'm confused now yeah we're going to do that so we're going we're going with no that's not what I want uh the board shammy sent is stealth burner two-piece rev 3 so this says 5vt and led so what you know what I can do I think I can just plug this in probe so you have z z end stop 1 two 3 four so Probe on the far left because it's not taking it's not taking um voltage from it it's just taking signal from it so let's go I believe I can just plug this into there okay so I PL plugged I plugged the signal for tap into this probe slot because based off everything I'm seeing it's only taking signal like it's taking ground it's taking voltage from a different port so I discovered we need the 5 volts is going to be going above the LED it's like it's referencing so many things if you have fun fact if you have a 5V PSU for lights you need to connect the negative to the main really yeah so on here we are going to plug it's got 5vt and led so we have the LED plugged in so 5vt is the pin on the board right above it according to this but it's we would need a Dupont for that and we have a GST on it so we'll we'll throw a Dupont on it really quick here I was not I don't think I don't think I was ready for today I I mean I was like I I prepped last night but I was like cool we just have DC wiring left um that was that was my bad I was def itely like cool figured like we're on the home stretch all right let's see so this is our deont which I do not have a proper Dupont crimper so we're going to use the p9s and double crimp and hope for the best that's all we can do yeah it's what it's wishful thinking on my part I think yeah I mean like I said I was up probably till about 11: just getting the things sort of routed and doing some of the cable chains and I was like cool like tomorrow will be tomorrow will be just kind of like our final chill day it's all right that's why I like wearing harnesses both yeah I I I totally get it I am anticipated some level of um some level of confusion just from deviating from the guide a little bit but I just didn't wasn't expecting this okie dokie uh so I think I crushed the stupid I forgot the DuPont has a little little tab the retaining tab let's see I think actually we could be okay we're okay all right so we've got you and 5 volts should be the farthest one up Tada okay so 5 volts I think I think we're good right so what do we got here this is xent stop ugs fan we're not using and pro Brite was the other one that we're not using is that right yeah that's right right yes okay so let's go because I don't have that jumper let's do one final pass here just just for myself cuz knowing me like the jumper will be right in front of my face after I've done the work around let's just do one Fell Swoop here what we've got so we've got a cover we got Hardware Hardware Hardware no electronics in here couple Fork connectors H that's interesting uh some lock nuts magnets yada yada yada no no no these are all the parts I ordered from shammy oh ooh I found it yes oh and also I we're not totally ready yet we need to plug us I'm just going to do USB for now nice and then we need to power this but I did find it there's a bag full of jumpers and it's in the jumper bag oh no criming the wrong Parts okay so here you need to insert the power supply jumper okay let me make sure though that it's set correctly this jumper so it says power jump jumper all right I I don't exactly we're we're installing this look look like I'm doing it backward no there we go okay our little jumper is installed next we need a USB cable to go from here to here let's do this what a long USB cable we're I mean we're planning on modding the crap out of this um anyway so it'll be fine okay the last thing should be power right we need um we need two did they provide us with this or no I don't think they did no oh yes they did no they did not okay son of a gun dude all right so we need it looks like oh no what was that we need two jumper wires from here to here so and they don't they didn't provide us with those wires it sure doesn't look like this looks like it's for our adxl I think or yeah this is for adxl no I hope not don't say that nice don't say that nice I I'm fairly confident we're going to be okay I'm not s I'm this is the least confident I've been that everything's going to be okay in a while if I'm being perfectly honest with you but okay well I guess I need to I got to crimp a couple more dupons um what wire length do we need for this I don't know what thickness wire we need to power this board but we're just going to use this little um that's too thick eh we'll use this it might not be enough power but we'll start with it the giveaway uh 10 more minutes on the po maker giveaway if you haven't if you haven't um signed up yet it's pinned in chat I hope not but I vote yet G smoke I will say no smoke this is my least favorite we'll do we'll do a poll uh start a [Music] poll all right let's let's see I'm curious to see what do we think no smoke but electronic smell [Music] [Music] well that didn't work I hardly ever I hardly ever crimp uh T [Music] PS okay two down two to go this is little overkill on length let's cut these a bit shorter uh let's see okay so we're split we got 55% thinking that thinking that we're good I did double check this morning like AC Wang so it's Poss I vote Yes because it would be good content thank you yeah I actually got in two cm4 modules so maybe maybe I will go with a manta board okay [Music] oops if this mostly works I will be very happy okay one last one on the detectors half Electronics part is empty now I hope we don't I'm going to be sad I'm G to be sad man if we just because just be I'm going to be sad if we get smoked it would be our second time the with the first time being the switch wire and the um one of the motors the drivers caught caught fire or I don't know it quite caught fire but it it ignited all right so let's see do I need uh so those are going right next to each other and right next to each other so we should be good with the a two pin and a two pin [Music] okay one side is [Music] in other side is [Music] in no crap it's those little so Steve explained it to me like the diff one of the main differences why you need a specific crimper for Dupont is like most of the crimp so like GST it's sort of like this right it's like a um an m shape if you will while on the DuPont it's like a it's like a hug shape and so the the shape when you're crimping it does not do good things to the legs of the the DuPont crimpers so I need to pick up a specific one for these but it works it's just not very good so in this case one of the legs is sort of sticking sticking off where it shouldn't be oh come on dude just one part of this leg hey zombie thank you for the banana all right I think I've cut off enough to get this pin in we did it okay so last thing is this needs to go on the red facing towards the outside let's go like this if I'm looking at this guy dupon is the only Auto crimper I have what do you what do you mean Auto what is an auto crimper like you like a ratcheting crimper like what I'm using oh uh okay so red is going to be it's the bottom and it's one away from the far end it's like there you go like that and then the other one is going on the spider board and it's going black facing this way and it's two from the top left I can't see that very well okay so it's really tough to show that 18 of you have not liked the stream like the stream before the giveaway it increases odds it doesn't I don't know if I can actually yeah you can see that there okay so yeah there's there's on the very top there's two pins that are not used and then it's black wire red wire and Rel to their guide so the last thing that needs to be done and then we're going to do the giveaway and then we're going to power this on and hope for the best um is there's some sort of Jumper when shorting the left two pins the motherboard uses the internal 5vt power supply when shorting the left two pins so it sounds like that's what we need to do okay so it's already there um so we don't have to do anything actually there's a jumper oh God there we go you can kind of see it see the blue the little blue guy right get my fingers out of the way this guy so there's three pins here and since we're using we're using the board to power this we need the 5 volts on the board that jumper is what basically outputs the five volts to it okay um let's also plug in our LCD screen it looks like we need two wires for it so we're just going I would love for this to just power on I mean we're going to have to change some config stuff there's no doubt in that because we're not using the inductive Pro but I would love for things to just work a there we go and there we go on the other side also I did I did reprint the reprinted can we back out a little bit there we go I reprinted this piece thinking that maybe the one they included was not toleran correctly so that that's why it was moving so easily and it's the exact same way so it seems like this is just the way this is just the way the screen is or the way this printed part is am I using a probe we're using V on tap so it'll be the first time for me God I can't freaking see what I'm doing one second it'll be the first time for me using tap so that'll be our probe and our Z stop which will be an adventure in itself cuz I again I haven't I haven't used it okay all right so that really should be it we would all love for it just St for you but I think there's a small part of us yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's fine that's fine I get it I get it I won't hold it against anybody for for hoping for some chaos I won't hold it against any oh I should probably plug probably plug that back in too if we're going to be having tap work okay we'll leave this wing door just kind of loose for now I won't thread it in all righty then uh if you are filling out the giveaway form it's in chat I'm giving you 60 seconds and then I'm going to remove it and then give you another 60 seconds that way we're being a little bit nicer today we're doing we're doing the Steve Away Steve Steve gives a lot of Chances with his giveaway stuff so we'll we'll let it go a little bit longer yeah I'm Still rocking that same screen on my ldo switch wire I definitely like Clipper screen more I absolutely do but I'd rather have a screen the no screen if given the option even if I you know even if I am primarily controlling the printers remotely another another thing so I my bad I just found the the DuPont cable that we just crimped in defense I I think I use slightly thicker wires so um there's that but yeah they they did include them there's just so many parts it's it's very typical yeah I the second I finished this I found the damn wires it's very typical so uh make sure you plug in the fs wait what did I can't oh the fs C I did yep FS caes plugged into the probe Port um the probe signal Port not the probe voltage Port the voltage is plugged into 5 volts all right let's let's go ahead and remove this message um remove and unpin there we go okay hi everybody okay we are doing the thing let's see 69 likes it's the first time I've checked our like count of course we're at 69 likes all righty so how many entries nice 71 entries which makes it a lot easier than normal let's copy everybody also I think I said it earlier but I don't know if I got distracted and finish what I was saying but this Saturday um I will be streaming on the 1440 makers Channel on YouTube uh for a charity live stream so I will be going on at I'll be going on at 11 I think it's 11 to1 I'm pretty sure I think it's 11 to1 I I'll verify I'll post it in Discord as soon as I get the definitive thing but um yes I'm going on so hey there is Steve um so Steve will be there I so hopefully I didn't ruin the surprise Steve but I don't think you stream between now and then but so oh did did Nero just end his so yeah Saturday at 11: at 11:00 mountain time or 10:00 a.m. Pacific Standard time I'm going to be on the makers uh 1440 makers charity stream uh Aaron works and it's my parents will be gone so it'll be just me and I have Jackson so I'm going to have Jackson set up in a high chair and we'll see how it goes but if you are around Saturday it's it's going to be a lot of fun it's a 24-hour charity stream for the fires in Hawaii which I think it was on Maui um so it's like um I have to look more detail into the the specific charity but I believe it's the like a relief fun to help anyone that was affected by the fires and Maui so pretty awesome cause and it'll be a ton of fun so if you're around then definitely then definitely uh stop by so um let's do this giveaway now okay and then let's get back into the craziness Steve if you're going to be here in like five minutes you have to see this absolute nutty wiring you can kind of see it it is the worst wiring I've ever done hands down but I have plenty of excuses as to why it looks the way that it does so uh let's let's get this giveaway going okay so we've got 72 entries which is everybody that entered in um as always I want to thank poly maker for letting us do these giveaways every single week if you have not been here before if you're in the US or Canada you'll end up getting a gift card and it's a little it's scary yeah the wiring is scary this is the least confident I've been in going correctly out of probably any build uh because of how many different things I had to reference and different versions and they sent me a wiring harness and a guide for a 2.4 oh this is a trident this was this was a mess so um yes thank you to poly maker for letting us do this I will contact you within 24 hours if you're not in us or Canada you'll get to pick a spool from a list of a couple hundred um and if you haven't tried out their filament links are in the description where you can do so so let's I'm just going to go with it's the 15th we're shuffling it 15 times that's what we're doing so 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 good luck everybody in three 2 [Music] 1 Fleming you are our winner and I think that's a first timer congratulations let's do uh air horn and cheer congratulations fing thank you uh I will I will send you an email in the next 24 hours and if depending on where you're at you either get a gift card or pick out a spool of filament but thank you everybody for uh for entering so yes let's let's let's see what we've got here because it's definitely it's definitely wild so check out this uh this is our current this is our current wiring situation oh the pole is still going too perfect so this is our current wiring situation so a couple things uh one the wiring has been so so uh messy with this build um so a couple things one I think they sent the wrong wiring harness I I'm almost positive at this point they did two this is the instructions that it came with I've always like been really happy to get a schematic printed out uh Nero raid thank you if Nero's here thank you very much well let's definitely do some air horn and cheers you sent them over right in the in the pucker the most puckery moment of the last eight and eight or nine build streams for this printer so the yes the instructions they sent are for the 2.4 uh on top of that we deviated from the stock guide a little bit because we installed tap which it's the first time I've installed tap um we also swapped out the tool head board because the tool head board they sent didn't have 5 volts and I didn't want to cut a trace or jump a wire so we swapped it out for a board that supports 5 volts so it's going to be interesting also we're using a 5x spider which I never used before I primarily have used big tree Tech boards and we're using an orange pie which I've absolutely never used before so yes anyone that's new here uh we stream every single Wednesday normally not this early normally it's at noon Pacific Standard Time and uh yeah it's a ton of fun we build printers we get distracted a lot and talk about food and all sorts of awesome things but yeah if you if you if you are new here definitely subscribe and uh it's a really good time Steve thank you very much for the five gifted memberships Steve have you announced that you're streaming on Saturday with the like for the whole thing I I know like it's already Wednesday and I don't think they've announced announced us yet so I'm like I'm just going to say it because uh you know it's about it's about time so let's let's first figure out we need to flash the orange pie that's the that's the thing we need to do so uh there's a Micro SD card slot I don't think they provided a Micro SD card so that's going to be our first order of business is figuring out here we go I've got a couple micro SD cards 8 gig hey what's up KB 3D uh oh nice how did the hey thanks for mon give 3D cheers let's do air horn action okay so let's see the thing I don't exactly know is how to even Flash the orange pie in comparison to is it just the same way as I would flash a regular raspberry P like is it basically pretend to be so I use Raspberry Pi dis imager install main sale OS there are 220 people here that is freaking awesome thank you very much Nero I appreciate it it's a pretty sharp Spike okay so we're going to do we're going to do them the same way I guess as you would do so we'll go raspberry pie disc imager yes and we are going to go with main sell does does fluid have a fluid OS cuz if it does I'm cool with trying that too um this is going to be other specific purpose OS 3D printing fluid still man fluid's got to get their their in here and then we're doing 30 do we I can't remember 32 bit is what we're going to do in let's see I use dant image though and Kaa 220 people where are those likes yeah if you have not hit the like button definitely do FL is only by kayak gotcha but you need to get the correct OS image is or not just a [Music] Kaaya I think this is the easiest way I just want to get it up and running or I want to get it up and running so we can power it on and see what happens that's like my biggest goal for right now is just to get this powered up so one of my concerns though is related to micro SD cards I don't know um I don't know if we've got I'm surprised he didn't include a single micro SD card with this kit uh no need it's oh it's pre-built with internal memory so wait do I just power it on did they already flash it nice is that what you're saying cuz nice nice built one of a 2.4 one of these not long ago sick okay awesome so we're not doing anything then we're plugging this in okay all right let's make sure all right power is off I am very nervous I very very nervous they flash it with an Android okay let's let's all right the moment of truth all right okay uh which orange pie is it I don't I don't know orange piie is this is a orange pie LTS v1.4 okay let's get everybody nice and low okay okay everybody this this is what we've all we've built up for um I'm hoping I I I double checked AC wiring earlier the biggest the biggest thing I think that we could have an issue with is our controller because of the fact that I'd referenced like three schematics and things just don't really align so let's let's just see let's see what happens all right here we go we're going do we'll do we'll do a countdown 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 I don't see any smoke I don't see any smoke I see lights there's a light on our orange pie it went from red to Green I'm I'm assuming that's good we've got a light on our FC board one thing I just realized though oh oh oh snap dude no way no way are ther working are both of our THS no way um let's check so how do I can I get this on the network from how do I get the orange spie on my network that's that's my question p i I am dude no way there's no way that was light oh light on tap oh tap yeah tap has a light on tap's lit no dude it can't be it can't be yeah this is this is Peak we've hit Peak there's a light on the um it everything looks like it's working so uh there's a light on our on our board so that's there and then I don't know how well you can see it but tap tap has a you can't really see that can you yeah look it it's red and it's blue and it when it hits the sensor so it's changing color like it's supposed to it's registering yeah it does it does it goes I'm so excited hold on let me show you guys I can't I this is this is man every dog has day that's all I got to say so it's red you can kind of see the red light look at that and it turns blue it's working like it's supposed to I can't believe that I can't I can't freaking believe that that is so exciting okay so Nic is saying it needs an RJ45 so we have to go ethernet that's an issue cuz my my modem is in the living room I don't have any wire connection um it appears on the surface yeah um really so there's nothing I can do is the conf yeah the config file was pre-loaded from Factory is there no way I can drop a txt file onto it and have it update can you not connect from the LCD I don't think I don't think this Clipper screen lets you but I don't think that it does I think I would have to hook up mouse and keyboard to the orange pie and HDMI out which would be an even bigger pain in the butt so what is the what is the process of configuring so if I hook this up let's say I bring this out to the living room and I plug it in directly and I what is the process for actually setting up the Wi-Fi on it uh configuring Wi-Fi on orange pie I don't actually know uh got a Lappy like a a laptop SSH is probably the easiest okay orange pie can fig okay so we think ethernet ethernet directly into the modem and then so I can bring this out there I won't be able to bring you guys out there because it's it's going to be tough we have a blowup mattress in the living room cuz my parents are staying here with us um think think think okay let's do okay I wasn't expecting it to power on like this I'd be perfectly honest with you I wasn't expecting I wasn't expecting smoke there is no built-in setting for turnoff so I'm just going to have to kill it and pray that doesn't damage anything you can Ethernet from Boron to laptop and SSH I've never done that if you guys if you no I I'm how could Aon with with how much of a freaking headache and question mark there was this morning how could I have expected that to just things to just work you just need to bring the pie you don't need the whole thing yeah but I won't be able to power the pie okay so you're saying if I bring my laptop I think the easiest thing to do is just plug this thing in plug the plug the dang thing into the living room via Ethernet power it on run back here ssh in update it to Wi-Fi unplug it from the living room and run it back here that's what we're going to do okay all right I'm going to I'm going to give me taking the mic off for one second here we're going to get this figured out so unplugging unplugging taking power cable throwing power cable right here I'm reading I'm reading uh just a USBC that's probably the better play huh just grab a USBC okay so disconnecting the USB cable disconnecting the power from the gpio on it now we're going to lift it like this we've got a USBC connection here okay and then we've got ethernet um we need ethernet cable which I should hopefully have one somewhere I don't use I don't use ethernet optin at all one second did it come with did it did this thing come with you know what I think I have okay all right I'll be back I think I have an ethernet cable over by the modem that I can just snag BRB good luck see you Saturday thank thank you Steve I can't believe that the TR it's cuz Steve blust us dude that's why the TR didn't turn on all right I'll be right [Music] back okay does it already have an IP from your router I let me check I I mean I should be able to should be able to see what let's see clients wired it looks like it's labeled as 3D geek its uh do we know what orange Pie's default info is so it's going to be SSH I don't know what the login is uh the build volume this is a 300 by 300 by 300 I think that's the default do we know what default is um orange pie try orange pie oh just try orange pie orange pie orange pie at I don't 192.168.1 16050 oops it did not work oh uh no e commands are different be careful be back on Saturday congratulations for the terrible username orange pie or Roo pass or okay let me try it again maybe I maybe I spelled it wrong I don't know o r a n e e p i okay it's not orange pie orange pie oh you're saying that I did the oh derp all right let me try again just cancel out of this and it froze there we go okay so we think it's SS H Orange High at 192.168.1 160 what was it yeah I'm thinking about Pi Pi sounds really good okay orange I yes yes okay and then we said it's we need probably suit right orange pie and it was Dash config uh hopefully it's orange pie yes we're doing it okay I'm change it to me so I can put in Wireless stuff select the dynamic or chat edit hotspot create Wi-Fi access point manage wireless networking enable networking three test damage working cool cool cool okay so I think we should be good do I need to do anything do I need to do anything to disable ethernet and enable wireless if I have both of them running or just if I unplug ethernet it'll default to it let me see if I see it on the network oh yeah it's already on the wireless network sick okay so let's let's see can we connect to it so the wireless IP is 210 192.168.1 60. 210 bam sick it booted right up okay so let's go ahead and shut down how do I change the language uh settings where I have no idea is there there is an antenna yep yep how do you is it is it just a drop down that I'm missing somewhere for power toggle fluid oh it's got to be here huh yes we're doing it okay post shut down yes okay I'm going to go unplug the orange pie run back in here power this on uh we're probably going to do because I was supposed oh I'm supposed to call in 20 minutes no we'll start doing some pre-flight we'll start doing some pre-flight stuff we got a little bit longer okay BRB okay where did I put the mic I said be right back and I said over here okay I can't believe it I can't believe cannot believe it this is It's make like my mood is doing a complete 180 it went from I was frustrated I was definitely frustrated earlier with everything not aligning and I'm like okay it's making up for it because things are just working now okay let's get this back on the D rail perfect and then we need a couple things need USB from our controller to plug in like so bam and then we need our power cable which is running from here no that's not right it's running from here to here I'm going to really quickly reference the the PDF for the right GPI opens because that's all I need is to put it in the wrong wrong slot um okay so it's second second from the bottom right with red facing this direction like so okay I think oh no no no red pin red pin came out let's P it in place okay hopefully that's good all right let's power oops I didn't bring the power cable back but I should have a bunch of bunch of regular power cables um have it has it been a fun build so far everything's been relatively smoothish up until wiring like we had some issues like the large BMG gear was incorrect just straight up incorrect um it's this is what was in in the um this is what was included and the geometry of I think it was I think this this side on over here it's actually just incorrect it's not how the BMG is supposed to be so it adds uh it gives near impossible to have it centered between the printed parts and it causes unnecessary push or force on the gear so I swapped this out this was a known issue with their kits they had the same issue in my v0 that I got from them and they they had replaced them all so it's my understanding this is Old Stock and I think that this whole kit is Old Stock they're switching over to Big Tre Tech stuff um uh I I used all the printed parts were included with the kit and there was some overe Extrusion on the tool head parts that I reprinted um so there was there was little things throughout but it wasn't anything that I'm like oh man this is like the end of the world it was just H okay I got to sort of um slightly improvised but the wiring was oh silly me I put the cable up here the wiring was definitely the biggest head scratcher because the harness is incorrect and the instructions are in correct and it just it's a mess the wiring was not I mean look at this right like this is awful looking enjoy the miracle until until you can uh just tuning yes it's an orange pie I have no idea how it's going to do um I I got some cm fors in recently so if need be I'll probably use that or I've got like a uh the big Tre Tech 24 volt Pi but I typically for the most part try to use what comes with a so that way I can give feedback on the kit the the tweaks we did was the inverted Electronics which doesn't really affect anything other than making things easier to access and then uh we went with tap but other than that everything else is stock in the kit so okay let's see we are Force refresh and we are connected so let's go through and do some of these waron first checks yeah the so we we are we're going canbas um once I've gotten some time to test this printer out we are I'm going Victory check sending over the ebb um stealth burner 2209 so we're going to be swapping that in I'm using three orange pie three LTS with no issues that's awesome I've heard mixed things about it you nice nice had it and ran into some issues and I can't remember um nice what were the issues you ran into with the orange pie I know you initially were using it and I don't remember what the really what the problem was this section provides a list of steps okay anytime movements are made verify temperature so we did verify temperature um temperature is working so extruder or hot end heater bed 25.9 cool uh verify heaters let's just go on the extruder I have it heat up to like 80 some low bands kicked on interesting both fans kicked on H not sure why I mean I'm happy the fans did kick on or at least you know the hot end fan but both both this fan and this fan are running which is a little odd off the Fig I mean it could just be a config thing maybe they're they're config together oh you had emmc failure interesting well think that's really nice with ar Souls onboard APS no SD card needed yeah I had no idea it had on board um uh emmc I only have Pi 3B should I consider pi4 for my f try both I'm running I only have one Clipper printer running a pi4 the rest of them are running Pi 3s uh or pi 3bs and I've had no issue the biggest thing to run into is during like the system update or the initial install it's going to take longer to install all the dependencies and packages but aside from that I haven't hit any sort of like performance issues in just regular use so yeah I I don't think it's I don't think it's needed Okay so we've hit temperature which is good again the fans are working I have to figure out what's going on with their wiring or their config and why they're going together let's get the bed up to uh let's do 60 okay the case fans both turned on which is good so we know that both of these both of these fans are working they both kicked on as soon as I um set Power we know that the SSR is working well let's see is it heating up it is heating up so we know that the SSR is working like it should [Music] be no Manta boards with CB1 so I'm running uh I'm running two Manta boards I have a manta m8p in my Mercury 1.1 build and it's been fine but I've still had some wireless issues the issue is is that I got the really early CB ons right like sent them out and I test them out and made a video on them and I had mixed Wi-Fi results but then they had corrected it they made a both they made both firmware changes or image changes as well as a physical change to the chip and they sent out some replacement CB ones well silly me didn't just throw out all of the initial ones that I got I held on to them and they all got mixed together so I've got I think like I think I've got like five or six CB ons and I don't know I don't know which ones are like the semi faulty and which ones are good and and uh the annoying thing about the faulty ones is that they'll sort of work fine for a while and then stop working so it's it's kind of frustrating so I might just swap out to the cm4 yeah I've got like three CB On's right here and I know I've got a few more later on elsewhere so we'll see I do like I do like the boards there was no smoke oh they're up to okay version 2.2 okay so bed's heating up we're at 57° celsious and climbing so I'm I guess we can see if it hits it and stops we'll need to do um we'll need to do p Tunes at some point but I'm not I don't think I'm GNA fully P tune until we enclose it because it's going to change the the parameters versus being open stepper motor check okay this we can do yeah I'm happy with that okay so let's check this this will be I I assume this will probably not be correct and I'll have to change some of the logic for the stepper Motors Direction wise so stepper mode Buzz X so we're doing the Trident so we need to test stepper X the mot will rotate clockwise first and then back counterclockwise okay I need you guys to let me know which direction it's going so it looks like it's opposite oops to me it looks like it's going left and then coming back hey GPS yeah I went counter first huh okay so that's incorrect so let's go into actually let's let's first cuz with the corx Y let's see what the other one's doing um let's go stepper y so X is opposite of what we want and for why it's saying it should rotate clockwise first and then counterclockwise oh the mo you know what I'm goof I'm a goof I should probably be looking at let's see oh it had an error uh interesting I see why it had an error okay let's turn this off so when I was moving around wires so the the wiring for this came with duponts instead of jsts for the ab Motors and I didn't crimp jsts on it yet I just wanted to get us up and running so I'm running Dupont still so they work but they don't get a really solid connection so I see it looks like the it looks like the B motor or the Y motor is slightly not seated fully so I'm going to kill the power I'm going kill the power seat this now it looks like it's fully seated again let's try that I think that'll fix it I do not like dupants for this yeah no I don't like them either it it was we're we're going to switch over to jst this was just a matter of every crimp takes a little bit more time and um we really wanted to get this thing fired up yeah it needs it needs jsts okay so we'll we'll try running the same try running the same thing again in here let's see if you haven't hit the like button hit the like button we're at 135 likes let's see if we can hit 150 okay so we're connected again we're going try why I think it'll work yeah so it's also I think I'm goofing though in general cuz I think I'm supposed to be looking at the steeper motor not the uh toolhead on this and it is going correctly then it's going the motor itself is going clockwise and then counterclockwise so let me check on X as well and verify okay so X is wrong but y was right okay so X is wrong Y is right and that means we need to switch it there's isn't there a here we go so if um so x what did I just say so it's going or you try it in try in there we go so X is correct no no no God X is incorrect I think I need to check Discord on you likely see your current stuff in the build check Discord okay also hi Dutch Z documentation fully paste your stepper Z all right let's see what do you got first touch we set our quirks by printers to home at the rear right with end stops at the rear and right side some people face issues PR CL the wrong direction Bon offers a useful diagram I've devised a simpler solution dude I feel like you are waiting for this it's not completely done yet but it should work uh the tool requires you be at a point in your build where your printer is homing in the wrong direction this means you have a fully working config fully paste your step or exit steper Y data at the same time where is it I I'm so used to okay step Rex should I just do one at a time or no I got to do both Dutch uh is it going to cause are the comments going to cause issues both okay homing directions X homes to the right oh wait oh you're saying that I need to tell it so this is so I need to home it you're saying I need to know the ways that it's homing right now I forgot the Y header did I yeah I did thank you I think we should probably check though on tap home a and be ready to emergency shutdown okay okay uh we are homing X getting ready to hit the emergency button and it already didn't work wait stepper Z3 okay so there's an issue with the Zed so we got to get that figured out unable to read TMC you are okay so there's an issue start to figure out what's going on with my Z Motors um I see exactly what's going on with my Z Motors I got to share this cuz it's funny oh wait yeah so I followed I must of I think I I followed the diagram when I was installing the drivers no no no when I was installing the steppers but I didn't follow the diagram for the steppers so we have a stepper in this slot where there should not there's no um motor but we have no stepper driver in this slot where there is so we don't have there's no there's no stepper I should have just plugged it in so let's go um that's funny shut down yes that's weird cuz it shows according to this diagram oh that's right it's again it's because I'm going to check to see it's because I referenced the guide it came with which was for a 2.4 so nice had sent over the GitHub for cyborg okay so they do want you to skip that one so it should be z01 okay I just want to make sure I'm mirring it because that's what this config is based off of okay so let's power this off let's go back over here let's pull this one at least it's something simple right it's cool all right now now our Zed should work how's the kitten oh yeah you super cute cat is it plugged in no it is not yeah the the confusing part which I if you didn't see this is that they give you a print out guide right and the print out guide that they sent for this says cybor v0 or no v2.4 and so when I was plugging in things I was like cool I need a driver there there there there there there there but that's for a 2.4 there's no Trident wiring on here and so I was originally doing some of the wiring based off this before I realized that and then I transitioned over to the online one so that's where uh they even sent the driver for uh they sent an extra driver as if it was a 2.4 so I think that's part of the issue is that this kit is like a hybrid Trident 2.4 okay so zero or Dutch said to hit X and be ready to freak out so let's do that so we're going to try to home X still throwing an error unable to read TMC art stepper Z register if CNT H I don't know did you set the one in the code for the slot you just oh do you think that I I'm also want I bet you that this config is for a 2 point you think this config is for a 2.4 [Music] so how many Zed motors do they have set in here Z so there's stepper Z stepper Z1 stepper Z 2 dude the whole thing oh you guys can't see it so even the config so yeah this was definitely a like a hacky kit um cuz it says there's four steppers in the config so it's config for 2.4 I wonder if that means it has quad gantry leveling quad Gantry leveling okay so I'm going to have to see something tells me that there's going to be another oops uh cybor try there we [Music] go yeah they they made a whoopsy with this kit they definitely made a whoopsy with this [Music] kit uh so we're just going to actually swap out everything underneath my serial ID [Music] I check all drivers that they match the code they they should they should all match because I I did wire them based off of where this was pulled from so I'm I'm fairly confident right now that if I go home a yeah so it's it is working so X is moving forward so part of this has been some self-inflicted stuff and I will take credit for the things I've done wrong but part of it is that the kit they sent me is is a little bit of a show when it comes to the wiring aspect the wiring and config because of the fact that they they they sent me like hardware for Trident and electronics and config for for a 2.4 I've got probably five to six more minutes and I got to call it cuz we're taking this my Ops we're taking Jack to the aquarium Okay so we've got that now let's I'm going to home why um should probably move it a little more Center who knows what's going to happen okay here we go uh right okay so just to show I'm taking I should probably also I'm going to delete this because I pulled this from the 2.4 and I don't know if it matches what I have now so let's let's check this I still haven't seen Everest no tun I haven't got a chance I will I will definitely check it though I did not query end stops yet doar cannot match MCU can pi as it is shut down uh okay let's restart host I'll I'll do that right now before uh before anything else I'll I'll check that cannot update MCU can guess it is shut down there we go yeah I I've used fluid a little bit but I'm definitely not as like it's a little bit poor to me as far as layout goes okay so let's do how do you do limit is limit switches in the same kind of uh system no config tune and stops okay so the should be no end stops triggered uh Z says triggered so we'll have to figure that out but X or Y I'm holding down now that's working X I am holding down now that's working okay X and Y are good Z we need to figure out um Z we need to figure out which I will I we take a look at acquired taste you are not fluid with fluid I'm not fluid with fluid I've used it a bit but I I'm still not fully uh as proficient with the layout okay so let's delete the voron 2 configs that exist in here let's remove you go under printer let's go under stepper let's try copying this over to here did I copy the header I did and then let's try to copy uh stepper y with the header okay we put it in the directions it was homing we're going to click fix it your steppers are swapped you need to swap the am connectors otherwise known as X and Y boom so let's do that so physic it's saying physically swap them [Music] right [Music] cool so let's do that let's shut down that's cool Dutch that's that's a pretty sweet Tool uh Z should always oh Z should always show triggered oh not ontap clicky it shows triggered okay so I've got to figure out what's going with tap okay so let's kill the power so I need to swap motor cables um which again they're they're going to get recmed because they're Dupont right now and jst connectors so it's it is it's Jank to the Maximus jenus to the Maximus so let's swap out hi we hi Jack Jack he says where are we going to go see the fishies yeah see the fishies so the wiring was absolute Nightmare on this yeah uh-huh because they sent like wrong wires and all sorts of stuff but we turned it on and it didn't smoke yeah I know have you on everything's good okay so let's I'm going to turn it back on let it home we'll take 60 seconds or so then we're going to show Jack Jack and then I'm going to end the stream okay just careful the camera Aaron is like let's go okay let's let's make sure X and Y are homing I'll play around with tap probably a little bit next week's going to be just a print and chill stream we're just going to print something on this um and hang out and laugh and talk about things okay so Thanksgiving Wednesday next Wednesday yeah do you afford Thanksgiving is that right yeah it might be probably right okay so let's try homing X oops that's not right that's a Rat's Nest that's my Rat's Nest okay let's see hey hey can you let him not let him pull on that cable jack loves cables wait wait wait wait that's not right Dutch it's not right I swapped the cables and it home the wrong way anyways I I I I will correct those after then I might need to invert the logic on one as well oh maybe that's what I need maybe I need to rerun it now that I swapped the cables and it still needs some l to be inverted you have to run okay I have to run it again gotcha okay well I will do that um hand me Jack Jack he says I'm ready to see the fishies hey buddy Yoo his hair is crazy you say hi Jack Jack look it it's working see all that wiring yeah I did a good job huh careful Bubba so he's going to the aquarium today I'm go see some fishies huh go see some fishies Jack Jack guess what I wired that all up and there was no smoke no smoke buddy y he say I just want to see fishies okay I'm fasten back we'll get going ah yeah he's he's a big dude man my parents are uh my parents haven't seen him so they're they're out here this week but they haven't seen him since he was 2 months and they're like oh my God he's a big dude so um let's let's turn this off Services post shut down okay let give it a couple seconds to shut down cuz the fans are super loud all right so uh it has been a it has been more of an I say this it feels like every week it has been a much more adventurous day than I anticipated I thought because I had all the AC done I had the the um DC wires harnessed routed like Snak looking kind of nice it was semi- nice when we started the stream if you don't believe me go back to the beginning and it was a lot more organized than this this absolute monstrosity that's going on down here um but there was there was confusion and there was issues which was a couple couple reasons one again wrong wires some of it's wrong wiring some of it is wrong instructions some of it was me I I will take responsibility for a few of the things it's just different um the this needs this needs work like the the instructions and the um layout of this but in all honesty I think that had they sent me a trident manual with a trident config and a trident whatever in Here length I think the length uh length of things is slightly different because it's for a trident versus 2.4 if they had done all of those things it would have definitely made it easier but still not perfect there was still some issues along the way but it's it's been it's been wild uh I am super happy that we didn't see smoke Clipper booted right up and overall I I think like we turned today like I I thought like the stream was like we're starting off on high note and then I felt like we fell down from Fell From Grace very quickly uh and towards the end of it I'm like yeah yeah we're back in this so between now and next week's stream I'm going to do a little bit of cleaning up I'm not going to do a ton of cleaning up because again we're going to um Can bust here but I'm at least going to Route the cables a little bit neater in The Wire channels I'll switch over from the DuPont to jst so I'm at least using the correct plug type and then I will go through the startup checks basically uh probably I will probably go through the startup checks and play around with tap um so that way next week we can just sort of print something out maybe I'll wait on tap and we'll do that on stream cuz I haven't done it before and it might be fun to stumble through it with everybody what do you guys think should we should I wait on tap so I'll just clean up things basically I'll clean up things down here make sure that the the X and Y is Hing correctly and then we'll do tap on stream next week cuz I I've never configured it before so it would be it would be kind of fun to kind of go through it slap some LS it's done okay we'll do we'll do tap on stream RS RS vots we'll do tap on stream I haven't done it and again we're going to have to we're going to have to go in and swap out the settings for the inductive probe for tap and I think that Jack fell that's a crying baby I'm going to go there's a baby in need I'll see you guys later on have a wonderful day again the charity stream I'll be doing Saturday over on the 1440 makers YouTube channel I will post a link when I've got it and then next Wednesday stream time I will figure out as soon as I know what Aon schedule is for next week I hope everyone has a wonderful rest of their day and I will talk to you guys later on bye everyone
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Published: Wed Nov 15 2023
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