Shure MV7 vs Shure SM7B Microphone | Live Shootout!

all right guys we want to welcome you into another spring tree world famous ubiquitous uh really fun awesome any other big words for us i like ubiquitous okay what's it good for [Music] we're going to talk about shure's brand new spankin awesome mv7 this beautiful thing right here and to make it even better i've got kevin from sure here to talk about this mic because it does so much stuff i can't tell you all about it but he can so ladies and gentlemen welcome kevin duthu to our studios hello sir how are you good actually i think you've been on one time before haven't you i have yeah it was for a console demo okay yeah we did so this is your second appearance you're like repeat on jay leno this is big news you know your career is taking off we need to make it a more common occurrence yes you know maybe we should do one of these like once a month that would be awesome third monday of every month i think we got enough product to make that happen we can do that so as you can see we're doing this in a podcast format since that's what this mic is kind of advertised as as a podcast microphone although it has many other useful abilities but i'm going to turn this over to kevin now to kind of explain the history of these two mics because as you can see sitting next to me we have an sm7 which is wildly popular right now thanks to joe rogan and other folks like that and the recording industry which has been using it for a long time kevin will give you a little history on that but uh we're going to compare them in this podcast format uh let you guys hear the differences between them and uh talk about what we like about them what we don't like about them we're honest on this that's one thing you know reps are always afraid when they come in because we're like we're going to tell the truth you know if we don't really like it we're going to tell you but so far you know this is it's got a silver star at least if not a gold so far we'll try to make it go by the end okay cool well kevin tell us about the mv7 sure so um as jade mentioned earlier the sm-7b has been around for 47 years and over the past five years we've experienced just a massive flux of people that need a broadcast style microphone and especially in the 2020 working from home a standard laptop with the built-in microphone just doesn't cut it there's kids in the background there's dogs barking there's cars going by so um we needed to find a way to bridge the gap of the sm-7b without having to get an interface a cloud lifter years of technical knowledge to know how to use a compressor an eq so enter the mv7 so this is kind of piggybacking on our current motive lineup which is all usb ios android powered devices so you know we've had the mvi which is an interface we've had the 51 which is a large diaphragm condenser and then we've had the mv 88 which plugs into an iphone uh to give you like you know stereo recording and then uh before the mv7 we had the mv 88 um plus kit which is like you know for vloggers content creators on the go stuff like that and now enter the mv7 so this product soren peterson over at sure was he's kind of the brainchild behind the motive stuff and he was doing a lot of research on google trends and i actually have it pulled up right here because it's really funny so like at the start of 2020 i want to start a podcast was the most google thing which yeah not surprised yeah everybody's stuck at home you got to do something how to get your peeps exactly and the next thing was well which usb mic should i purchase and then the very next google search was right here it says uh the following things were googled why does my podcast sound bad why does my podcast sound echoey why does it sound reverberant why does it sound boxy or in a tunnel so then you know they started thinking well why don't we have something that sounds good out of the box that requires a little you know not a lot of know-how and that's where the mv7 came into play um so with any of these they all have you know the touch touch capacitive you know presets on the front you can do monitoring and set your gain volume so they just integrated this into this which mimics this so it kind of came at you know um that aspect of the microphone and they did it at a significantly lower cost you know the in the sm7 is 400 map i believe 399 whereas the mv7 is 249. yeah it's a lot less of a chunk to have to break off uh and start you know recording your own voice because this is all you need you don't need an interface a cloud lifter you know you know all the other gac to get it going yeah so that's kind of where it came from but like jade said this is targeted toward podcasters it's targeted toward recording musicians it's targeted toward the work for you know work from home crowd this gets you amazing audio over zoom calls gets you amazing audio over twitch streams discord chats zoom calls any of that stuff and you can just plug it directly into your computer yep and no other hardware needed nope it is completely driverless um it is plug and play works with windows uh mac or you can actually get the micro usb to lightning cable right here and you can use it with your ios device or if you just have the micro usb to usb a uh i think for android you're an android guy it's like the the otg on the go camera connection kit yep it just shows up you download the motive the motive app and uh you're up and running so if you really like your phone camera you're covered too exactly yeah um the number one question we have received about the the usb audio and right now we're using the xlr audio to an interface and then later we're going to switch to the usb audio so you can hear it but the audio device is 24 bit 48k so it's not like a chin c yeah you know 16 bit yeah yeah it's not it's not an inexpensive uh dsp inside so it's it's got a good chip it's got good audio path you know something that sure has been working on for years and they've they've got it down they've got it down pat and for you techies the reason we're going xlr first of all the sm7b only has xlr also we want to be able to direct comparison they are flat there's no eq on these this is just as the mic sounds yep so you're getting what you get out of the box and that way when we compare them you'll hear the differences and it's pure yeah i mean this is this is all you really need and can you use both at one time xlr and usbc if you wanted to can you use both of the outputs without them messing with each other yeah you can uh actually right now we have them both connected to my macbook and the usb is just kind of dormant right now but i do have full control over jade's microphone so i don't know if you can see it on the camera see my light but if you look at his lights i can go over here and adjust the lights up and down and i'm adjusting as gain or i can adjust you know how much monitoring or eq and it's not doing it's not affecting the xlr output yeah so the xlr output is just a dynamic microphone the the dsp output comes out of the usb and that can be you know directed to your computer so if you wanted to record two places at once you could record to your computer and also record to like a zoom device or an external recorder or something else yeah and get two streams at once options we like options a lot of options um as far as the characteristics of both microphones they're both a dynamic cardioid microphone with no phantom power doesn't require any this just that is like you know the age-old microphone technology yep so um the the biggest thing with the uh the sm7 is it requires a lot of gain yeah like a lot of gains a lot of terribly sensitive exactly uh and if you pull off the pop filter the the element is actually further back in the barrel of this uh you know the pop filter so it requires a lot of gain just to get that that forward facing voice momentum to hit to strike the diaphragm which is why when you see joe rogan or any of those guys talking he's right up excuse me i'm on the wrong mic but he was right up on the mic so that's why they do that yep um and you know part of the the mv7 a lot of people aren't comfortable speaking right into the microphone but you know in the broadcasting world i mean you got to have the lips touching the grill kind of thing so when we get into the usb side um the whole entire thing behind this is to have like perfect audio and imperfect rooms yeah so if you wanted to speak further away from it there's a far setting that puts some secret sauce in the dsp and it kind of auto controls your gain auto controls your limiting your compression your eq um so like you know like i said earlier plug and play yeah you just take it out you hit far and you let the microphone do the work i on a personal level think they sound better when you're up closer oh absolutely yeah it's got a warmer yeah kind of feel to it and that that's the proximity effect yeah so you know microphones suffer from what's called proximity effect and if you get really on it you can hear that bass kind of pick up and the bass is real super bassy and then when you get back you notice the gain falls off and it thins out so the only way to combat proximity effect is good good microphone technique it's just physics you hear that podcasters good microphone technique it's just physics um some of the features of this though um i know like it says in the box it's voice isolation technology um which really helps to isolate your voice right in front of the microphone and eliminate a lot of the background noise and i don't know if y'all can hear it right now but we're next to an interstate uh and you can hear a lot of 18 wheelers going by you can hear hvac you might not be able to hear any of that with the with the mv7 especially in the usb mode when the dsp is engaged yeah so it really cuts back on that yeah but um the app is a desktop app so you can use it a mac or pc and i think on windows it runs as a windows service so it runs down by the clock okay and then mac it just runs up in the top toolbar and you can just click it and when we switch to it i'll record my screen later and you can see how it kind of comes down and you can actually do two at once um and that's one thing that a lot of people didn't realize with usb you know with usb audio it's real tough to connect two interfaces to one laptop it's almost impossible um this is a one at one in two out interface so with with mac i don't know how to do it on windows yet i'm gonna figure that out has to be a way there's definitely a way but on mac you set up an aggregate device and then you just tell it to take both inputs from both mv7s and then you can choose input one would be that one input two would be this one and uh i can do a quick little video for you know everyone watching that wants to know how to do that it takes less than 10 seconds which is cool because you literally can have a podcast with just your computer you don't have to have a little mixer to get your other mics in plug them both in away you go exactly so you bring a little macbook air around you got two usbc's on the side or usb a's you know whatever you want to use or um and you just that's all you need two desktop tans you know two sets of headphones a little headphone splitter and i mean you're up and going you've got a podcast and a backpack that's awesome you know for 500 technology yep um so what what all comes in the box so obviously we have this one here uh this is the black version with sure printed on the side nice and pretty so you know what you're using it also comes in silver which is kind of cool i think it looks really good the black looks more like the brethren over here yeah i know i posted a video a picture last night on my instagram and it was these two next to each other and the caption was don't ever talk to me or my son again because you know they they're like this one's just so much bigger and this one's the you know just the little tiny version of that one they definitely took styling cues though oh absolutely amounts everything very very similar absolutely and the biggest pain point of this one is if the yoke mount is super shallow so if you want to flip the orientation you have to take apart the yoke mount and i don't know if anyone out there has ever taken apart i'm not even good don't do it please if you if you take apart an sm7b yoke mount there's about 13 washers on both sides nice and to remember the order in which that they go in is bad i'm sure there's a website for that there is there's actually on like the sure service or the support portal there's like a um like a like a diagram of how they go in nice so if you look on the mv7 it's actually deep enough i'm going to back up and do this i'm going to see if i can do this without breaking all the cable management we have here but you can flip it internally nice to reorient the microphone without having to adjust the yoke mount so that's been a big thing for mv7 fans because you know once you get this thing set up you're not really going to change it yeah you know it's just the initial setup um but as far as what's in the box it does come with two 10-foot cables so one is usbc for all the new mac nerds out there and windows is adopting usbc too so it's got a 10 foot micro usb to usbc and a 10 foot micro usb to usb a it's nice i thought to actually go with some length on those instead of giving you the three foot cable like most people do exactly exactly yeah where does this fit in on the value stand so you know there's a ton of other usb microphones out there there's a colored brand uh that name their microphone after um like you know a white monster those exist that is that is a really good starting point this is the mv7 is positioned for someone who doesn't necessarily want uh entry level yeah and can't afford a full 800 microphone setup with an sm7b yeah so that's where it kind of falls in the spectrum of things and with podcasting just absolutely exploding gosh yes i mean everybody i just had a conference call this morning with someone that wants me to help them produce a podcast and he said he doesn't even want to do the podcast but he's getting pressure to do it because he knows so many influential people oh there you go they just want him to go interview people so we're going to help him put that together and we'll be using two mv7s nice two pairs of srh440 headsets a little headphone splitter and uh he'll be up and going in no time um but in addition to podcasting video game streaming yeah twitch is huge twitch is massive oh my gosh and now that amazon has acquired them you know if you have everything else exactly if you have an amazon prime account you can now subscribe to people on twitch yeah and it doesn't cost you anything yep uh i mean my nephews are they watch twitch constantly uh my wife even watches twitch she follows some people on twitch you know that your wife a gamer she's not a gamer okay but it's going to make her extraordinarily cool if she was a gamer yeah well you know she uh she does she likes playing um uh the vr beat saber game nice yeah so she she's uh she's into that world but um but no i mean there's just a lot of influencers on youtube or instagram that use twitch uh as a way to kind of like monetize their fan base because you can donate to them you can subscribe to them you can give them bits or internet points yeah i'm not really sure how all that works yeah i mean could you ever imagine there would be a time in our life where people who sit in front of a camera they're called influencers and they get paid to influence a lot of money my gosh i'm not dogging it i mean look at joe rogan right he's been doing the podcast thing forever yeah he was early he was early yeah he started out you know um being the announcer for mma he was the host on fear factor i don't know if anyone remembers that have a great show it was awesome uh but i mean look where he is now i mean it's roughly a decade later and he signed the biggest podcasting deal of all time and it just comes from content like content is king and he's a great interviewer he's a great interviewer great interview and that's the thing he he puts out great content yeah by way of interview and if the content's king capturing the medium of that content with a good audio source oh yeah is super important especially if it's auditory because most people listen to podcasts and cars yep on their walks they're not watching a video no uh so they don't want to hear someone just talking into a phone i think we should write a new song podcast killed the video star that's not a bad idea i mean we're getting close to the that's not a bad idea video killed the radio star and now a podcast killed the video star yeah but you know podcasting is all about diversifying your listening base yes so think of it if you're a church for example um you have sunday service everyone comes and listens the pastor give the sermon yep right people at home are watching that well what if he has something else to say that might not necessarily fit in the time that he had for the hour on sunday and might not fit with you know bible study or men's group or women's group or whatever and he just wants to have a podcast that can reach several far more people than just your congregation absolutely that's been a big thing the church podcast thing has been huge i mean how many times have you found a podcast just by surfing and it had a cool title and you and you end up falling in love with whoever's doing it's like this is great exactly and then you get interested in them as a person and you start researching what else they're doing um so it's you know radio is still very much alive uh but i think digital content podcasting content creation is only going to continue to get bigger oh yeah yeah especially as easy as it's fed to us now you can get it on so many different formats i mean you name it it's it is the future exactly exactly well cool do we want to do some audio comparisons between the two i think we do all right this is a 249 street price microphone uh with usb and xlr and we're going to switch to the sm7b which is a 399 street price mine yeah right 399 400 399 yeah and these are both flat yep approximately the same game gain between them so uh if you hear a difference it is purely the diaphragm of the mic the the electronics that's that's what you're going to hear so exactly should we move the s at themselves let's go all right leaned over a couple inches here and now i'm on the sm-7b i'm feeling a little more uh i don't know old-school maybe well you know like this um with a great preamp oh yeah yeah gets you that broadcast ready million dollar voice yes well that's why this was designed originally right this was a straight up radio mic it was it was and you know um like i was saying earlier it's been around for 47 years and the popularity in the past five years has absolutely skyrocketed and you know when i first started out as a rep uh people wouldn't even look at it they'd be like that's ugly yeah they'd be like they'd be like why would i consider something for a professional recording studio that's under a thousand dollars yeah and why's it got a cable like hanging out this side yeah there's some weird things about it yeah you know it's it hasn't it hasn't changed yeah you know so uh it really wasn't until um there was a uh maybe it was like the michael jackson this is it documentary or one of those where they saw quincy jones recording thriller on an sm7b yeah and then people started going oh okay you know and then and then you start realizing like kings of leon their album vocals were cut with an sm7b and the most popular thing to do is pull off this windscreen and just put a pop filter in front of it and you know get a neve 1073 or something with like a tubetech co1b and that's like that's like a golden audio chain yeah i mean it just sounds incredible but you know it does require a lot more work to do this like there's a whole lot behind the camera you can't see that's driving this microphone yeah uh versus the the mv7 uh can be done with just a usb cable i will say back in the uh my studio days uh we used to use these a lot when we were cutting tracks we'd put the vocalist on this because it had really good rejection of everything else they could be in the room with them doing their thing and it didn't really cause any problems and oftentimes got some great vocals on him that we kept oh yeah absolutely awesome especially for for super loud singers yeah uh this microphone was really popular uh or still is in the metal world this like the screaming like you know the screaming loud super vocals because this thing can take a ton of spl before before even thinking about getting distortion like a ton um so that's been big uh i mean if you if you go look at um like there's a guy on youtube called like 10 second covers and he just records like you know uh he'll do like rick astley in the form of mega death oh nice and you know his thing he's got this real deep super radio voice and he uses a an sm7b and he sounds great uh you know every time as a matter of fact when i turn my head you can hear me oh yeah gain like immediately drops off so this thing you really got to be right up on it you got to be really friendly with the microphone uh friendlier than you want to be with a lot of people right now yes um but you know circling back i mean this thing has got that legendary smooth it's super warm it's got a lot of low end response this is this is targeted toward your professional this is a professional microphone so professional podcasters professional musicians professional streamers um and like i said with all the gear behind it requires like you need an extra person oh yeah i run just the other you do yeah you absolutely do and you know a lot of people say well you know joe rogan's got four of them how hard can it be well what you don't see is the six people on the other side of the camera running his whole studio uh and doing a plethora of stuff so those the people behind the scenes make it look easy but this thing requires like 60 decibels of gain yeah to make it to make it go i mean what's your preamp set it right now yeah 54. what kind of device is that oh it's an rme yeah so rme will drive it no problem like the babyface pro will drive it no problem yeah um you know rme has got some of the best preamps in the industry uh i was using a um i think it was the little um i'm like i say the name of the brand but it's red um it has two inputs on the front and you had to have the boost enabled oh my gosh and the preamp all the way open a little bit hiss going on from that yep brings brings up brings up the noise floor yeah and um we were getting just enough level to be able to post it uh boost it in post wow so it requires a lot um so you gotta have a little bit of the the audio technical know-how yeah to get this thing to to get going uh but it gets you really close and then you put a little polishing on the top and it gets even better now let me ask a uh sales question on this yeah i've gotten eight gazillion i like big numbers requests for these and they've been back ordered forever are we getting better with that we are getting better okay um but you know like i said when 2020 started oh yeah um everybody all of a sudden wanted an sm7b i mean it was to the point where uh i mean thousands a day thousands a day oh yeah for a microphone oh yeah um and i mean it as as bad as i hate to say it like the manufacturing just couldn't keep up absolutely so that's a good problem to have it's it's a good problem to have but it's it's a it's bad when you can't get people what they need yeah a lot of people they want bot microphones because they couldn't get these that are not going to be near as cool yeah um we have we have a ton on order and we have a ton being made so we hope to get caught up really soon um but i would say you know if you're interested in one get with jade get in line just go ahead and get in line do it go ahead and go ahead and pre-order one through him and uh i'll work my i'll work my magic if i can to see if i can't uh get you a couple uh as soon as they become available cool cool cool all right so this gives you a good idea what these sound like they're wonderful they're awesome but to be honest speaking between the two we're hearing ourselves in headphones they're both great oh yeah absolutely i mean i had you know going between the two there wasn't anything that jumped out like i was like oh i just i got to speak on this they both sound great mm-hmm you know and that leads me to the point of either one of these will work great for anybody oh really yeah oh yeah anybody a regular sm58 will work great yeah you know if you're just starting out there's no reason why an sm58 uh on a little desktop stand with an interface can't get you going on a podcast and that's that's a 100 microphone yeah you know but then again you still have to have some knowledge of how to get those up and use it yeah i mean you still gotta you know you gotta know a little bit about eq um you know where to high pass where to notch if you got a problem uh what kind of compression because you know a lot of uh i doubt we're doing it right now but a lot of the uh you know that radio sound is heavy compression oh yeah you know uh i remember a while back i got to go to um oh who's the guy that did love line um never listen to that dr drew oh there you go i went to i went to dr drew's thing and he had sm7s and i was in the control room and i was looking at his his uh his signal path and this is just for like xm radio yeah and it was like a uh it was uh it was either a neumann or an ssl channel strip pre oh my gosh uh into an 1176 and then with a distressor on the back end wow a distressor yeah on dr drew yeah like set to nuke [Laughter] um like like that's a real setting on the distressor nuke um and that was just to get that super dialed in compressed radio golden voice yeah super smooth like that casey kasem voice um so i mean he had a 400 microphone with 27 000 of gear you know gear driving it to get to get that sound um but we can get a lot closer today with uh plugins yeah you know uh pro tools has a lot of great built-in plugins i know steven slate's got a bunch of the emulators that i like a lot um but if you don't want to get into all that if you're not a professional that's where this comes into play yep uh like a hundred percent but realistically a professional could use this oh absolutely it sounds good there would be no reason not to except for it's not an sm7b yeah there is a stigma yeah that goes with that there is there's it's a status thing if you know us at spring tree our thing is always do you really need to spend that money i mean is it really going to give you something something else didn't if it does great spend the money if it doesn't yeah i mean that's true i mean you got to be a good steward of the money yeah like you have to like you got a budget um you know and starting anything is not cheap whether it's a podcast whether it's a new church whether it's a new venue a new bar um you know it takes money to make money yeah and nothing's cheap no no you literally pay for what you get for yeah um and you know sure has always had a great value proposition you know i'm a little biased but you know i don't find any of our products are overpriced no i think they kind of hit the nail on the head and they do exactly what they're intended to do well i've been here almost 20 years in the uh sm-58 pretty much been the same price the whole time 99 bucks very very few companies ever are able to say they've kept their price the same for 20 years you know what's funny about the sm58 we're gonna do a little segway here uh-oh segway that microphone's been out for 50-plus years yep you know we just had we just keep releasing anniversary models um people keep buying them they don't die no i don't know where they're going i think at some point a they look so crusty i've been guilty of this oh yeah they look so beat up there's no possible way it could sound good even though it hasn't affected the sound yeah but mentally you're looking at it going oh that thing's just abused and yeah it's got to be dull now it's yeah it's not you just want to refresh it but they don't die no uh you know they really don't so you know i guess people are upgrading it when they get crushed here when they get old yeah uh and then you can take your rusty one and then you can use that as a hammer if you don't have a hammer laying around uh i mean you can you can inflict some damage personal protection yeah you know it's uh it's not light so but you know 58's been around forever it's not going anywhere there's several new iterate you know beta 58a is a different version of the 58 supercardioid uh or if you want to get um a more uh cost effective 58 we have the sm48 yeah which not a lot of people know about it's a little bit cheaper and then we also have the whole pg alta line so we've got the pga 58 and the pga 48. so there's a whole bunch of different flavors um so lots to choose from lots to help you get started um and you know sure has been doing the microphone thing for almost 100 years well they are unquestionably the 800 pound gorilla in the room i mean everything is compared to sure when it comes to live microphones there's no question yeah i mean i guess you could say like a 57 is like the baseline oh yeah especially for studio recording studio i mean i have rarely done a live gig where they don't slap a 57 on your amp it's just what they're gonna do yep guitar amp snare snare drum yeah snare um everything it's just like the utilitarian go-to i know there was a there was an interview a while back uh where they interviewed some recording engineers and they asked them for their island mic like if they were stranded on an island for eternity and they had one microphone in their in their mic locker yeah number one was sm57 number two was sm7b well you can't beat that you know so it's like because i've got friends that use sm7b on hi-hat i'm a drummer so um we've used sm7b as i call the knee mic which is something that's kind of come in in the last 10 years where you kind of put a microphone uh underneath your ride or kind of like right over your kick aiming at your snare drum and your knee and you kind of blend that in with a lot of compression um great kick drum microphone i mean i mean anything you can mic anything with an sm7b and it sounds great anything i've yet to find something cool now talking about recording anybody using the mv7 for for recording recording um i mean honestly i don't know right now if if anyone has like uh done studio recording with it because it's new it's still so new yeah i mean we're still gathering feedback on it um i've used it for some stuff uh just internal videos and um i get a lot of questions of hey what's that microphone hey like what is that what are you doing like how did you do that um and then we just start the conversation that way um but i mean there's no doubt in my mind you can absolutely use it for recording and you can take the you know you can take the pop filter off just like you can uh in an sm7 and you can put it right up next to a guitar amplifier you know right on up right on someone's voice with a pop filter in front of it if you want to get that you know that sm7b type stuff so it's a it's a great microphone just has a built-in usb interface with it cool yeah well i think uh we have definitely found all the things it's good for do we want to switch back to this one i'm going to say let's switch back to the mv7 you read my mind all right are we back we're back and we're back yeah so hit the table too i think we have hit a million points and it what i say we really stayed within the podcast format which i liked i enjoyed this actually i didn't uh it was very casual i like this that's what it's all about man maybe maybe this is a new thing like the spring tree podcast yeah the spring tree podcast yeah that'd be fun i think it can go places if it's a straight up podcast we can probably even get chris to get up here on it for once he doesn't like being in front of the camera he's a staggeringly good looking man so we're not really sure why but uh i have to agree with that you know it is what it is uh but this was fun uh it is so why don't why don't we do this uh why don't we end the uh xlr thing right here and we'll switch to usb okay and uh we'll finish up the video with the usb connection and going through the app all right and then uh we'll give it a final tally of what's it good for okay all right guys we've made some behind the scenes changes here and now we are hooked up fully usb direct into the computer that's it there's no other connections going on right here this is uh really the magic of this microphone right here is what we're going to be able to do now kevin has us recording on there he's recording some screenshots for you guys to see of the app that comes with this and how it works and so i'm going to turn this again back over to the lovely kevin and oh here we go so uh as jade mentioned and what we talked about in the previous segment i actually have two usb microphones connected to one computer which is used to be tough yeah but it's all on how you configure it so these are set up as an aggregate device in the mac os audio midi setup which is very easy just make sure your clocks are set right uh clocking is everything and i can do a little quick video that we can piggyback on this later when it's being edited and show them how to do that um but here on the screen so there's an app you can download from sure and when you get the microphone there's a little card in the box that tells you the website to go download it and that kind of unlocks all the potentials of the microphone all the feature sets all the potential everything so here on the screen i've got mine pulled up and when you have two connected as you can see here um you hit the little drop down and i've got kevin and jade so now i have control of my microphone and his microphone so since we're social distancing um i can control his microphone gain from this far away and then yeah you know i can control mine as well and then we have independent headphone volumes and um and then yeah and there's no xlr currently connected to the microphone so um as i mentioned in the first the first part if you are not familiar to doing anything with audio post processing or input or anything like that the auto level thing uh is is a is a treat so i'm going to go ahead and enable auto level by clicking here and you'll see you'll hear my voice kind of dip down for a second until it detects where i am and what i'm doing and how i'm speaking so what we did is uh this just applied uh compression limiting um and it's kind of moving as i go so if i talk quieter you'll notice the microphone will pick me up if i get a little bit louder it'll bring the gain back down so it's auto gain also yeah so it's got the auto gain okay and so i have it set to near right now so it knows i'm really close to the microphone there's it's applying compression a little bit of limiting a little bit of eq if you don't want to be right up on the microphone you can do the far setting so i'm going to change it to far and now if you step back further away from the microphone it's doing the auto gain levelings doing the compression and it's telling you that you're sitting back further away from the microphone so this might be a little bit more comfortable especially if you're on a zoom call you're taking questions you know you don't want to be right up on the microphone because if you do when it's in far setting you'll hear it clamp down so like it's it's like clamping down super hard on the compression right now and this is let me go back to near this is not using any of the we're not using any post processing this is just the microphone volume coming out of the usb so i'm gonna switch it back to manual mode now so uh starting at the top you can save certain presets for what you like uh and you can have as many presets as you want i haven't seen a cap on it yet uh you do have mic mute which will engage the mic mute right here you can't hear me now you can hear me again um here's your mic gain uh and if you can see on the camera you can see these little leds moving up or down i'm gonna see if i can turn that and that's being adjusted by the software my sweet spot is between 30 and 31.5 decibels below that you have your monitor mix now this this lets you know how much do you want to hear of the microphone and you notice our headphones are plugged directly into the microphone exactly yeah so no external headphone amp have to be used none of that good no it's right in um and in the monitor section for the headphones you can choose how much of the microphone you want to hear or how much of the playback so we were doing a podcast thing where we were bringing up maybe a news article or a video you could dial this in to see how much of uh how much you want to hear of that so you're basically creating your own monitor mix right here and then some of the onboard eq presets there's no um like you know 10 band or 15 band eq because the first thing that novices do when they see a 15 eq is they put a smiley face on it make it smile yeah no it's not a 1994 honda accord um you gotta you gotta know how to use those things properly or it's just gonna be do do so eq right now it's set to flat and then i can go ahead and engage a high pass filter so now uh you'll notice um in the recording that a lot of the low end has been uh gone from my voice it's uh it doesn't tell me exactly where the high pass is but it really eats up all that that like boomy low-end proximity effect uh the next is a is a presence peak so this disables the high pass and puts a presence peak and then now i've got the presence boost engaged and you can hear a little bit more sibilance in my voice s's ps t's a little bit more bright and then the last one is a high pass with a presence boost so if you're really low like super low voice and now i've got the high pass and the presence boost or you've been screaming all night and your voice is dull exactly yeah so uh high pass and presence boost is really good for zoom calls because by the time the microphone goes into the computer goes and zoom goes all the way across the network it's already dithered you know audio quality goes down dramatically um this this kind of helps on the far end uh like you know sound a lot better yeah make you more because you're connected exactly so you're adding a little bit and then zoom takes away a lot so but usually by the time you get to the end of it um it'll be back to flat so i'm going to go ahead and switch it back to flat now so now i'm on a flat eq and this is basically what the microphone sounds like with an xlr you know connected to it and then there's limiting and compressing limiting is basically i mean what's an easy way to describe a limiter simply keeps it from getting too loud yeah so it's a limiter is just a volume that you set and it will not go above that yeah so um you know we can set the limiter and if you yell into it uh it'll stop it from you know from uh overdriving the the output um then you can get into the compressor and this is kind of like an easy mode compressor so there's no there's no threshold there's no ratio there's no attack there's no release it's just three presets there's light medium and heavy let me tell my first compressor yeah exactly yeah so but you know you know like again like it's it's on keeping it easy for the novice yes so i'll put on some light compression and you can hear my voice is a little bit more present um you don't really hear a lot of compression uh and then we go to the medium setting and then if i get super loud it might peak a little bit but it's not like it's overpowering you're hearing me i'm right in your face with a compressed microphone um you know even if you back up a little bit the proximity effect isn't that bad with a compressor and then you can go into heavy and now i've got heavy compression so yeah allowed somebody in a room exactly yeah so think of a compressor as like an automatic volume limiter yeah i was going to say for those who don't know compression can be kind of explained as it keeps the volume consistent yep just all the way through if you get quieter it tends to boost it up a little bit it's not an auto gain it's just taking all the transients and smoothing them out exactly so i always just tell people it's an automatic volume reducer yeah you know that's the easiest way to put it yep but it can be used as an effect absolutely um like chris lord algae one of the biggest mix engineers bathes things and yeah everyone calls him dr compression because everything he has is compression and that's his sound so that's where he gets it so you can use it as an effect or you can use it as a tool uh i prefer to use it as a tool on things like guitars and bass to keep them in check i prefer to use them as an effect on drums and vocals to be able to get that snap out of a snare drum or that that that super presence on vocals yeah yeah so um that's pretty much the overview of the app but once again this is coming straight off usb uh both of our microphones are coming straight into usb and then um i'm just tracking with garageband which is a free you know app store download yeah totally free and it takes nothing to set this thing up the aggregate device was honestly the hardest part yeah so but once you know that i want you to let your goal down and then um you know if you have a zoom client or you launch zoom uh it'll actually see this device it'll say sure mv7 and you can say i want to use this as my microphone and the output is the mv7 yep so all your audio comes through here 24 bit 48k super simple super simple you really can't mess it up yeah teamspeak discord um obs it's like ob i think it's obs certified yep um it it automatically shows up in everything as a property audio properties microphone input output so make it as simple as possible and really that kind of ties up the whole thing right there this is an extremely simple device to use for today's podcasting world which is ginormous huge you know here you go this is it for 249 map 249 everything you need yeah ready to go the only thing you really need um content you gotta have content you gotta have content um headphones if you wanna be able to hear yourself monitor in real time and it's not necessary you see a lot of people doing without it oh yeah absolutely but you know typically if you're in an interview setting with you know two or more people yeah headphones you kind of want yeah it's also nice to be able to monitor everyone's voice without having to yell across a room or if you want to watch a video and i'll react to it kind of thing and then the only other thing you really need is like some sort of microphone stand yeah boom uh the the clamp articulating boom arms those are available mom's broom if you want to duct tape it on yeah you know why not whatever uh you get a little manfrotto uh like the sure branded manfrotto tripod stand and you can get the adapter and plug it right on here so all these things are a good option and uh you know going back to the beginning it's a podcast and a backpack yeah ready to go it's content capturing a backpack and in general a great sounding mic it's a yeah great sounding so well at least i think so you guys can be the judge of that yeah so and you know it's you know microphone demos and speaker demos are the most subjective things extremely subject because everyone likes them to sound different yep and to be honest that's why there's hundreds of microphones from tons of different manufacturers because everyone's voice is different i was part of a discussion the other day where everybody hears differently too absolutely you put the same sound in 10 people's ears exact same earbuds or headphones and listen for frequencies they're all going to hear it differently yep everyone so subjective to the nth degree i mean it's crazy it really is so you know i always people always ask me what's the best microphone what are you doing there's there's no there's no right or wrong answer to that yeah you know for for performance vocals i could say ksm9 yeah it's a 600 700 you know condenser microphone um doesn't sound good on my wife yeah she likes a beta58 yep that's what she likes um you know so so there's no good answer to which microphone's the best try a lot of them yeah go to your local dealer request request a demo come to these guys see see what see what you want to demo uh chances are it'll call me and say this guy so i'll come over i'll bring it i'll bring a goodie box full of toys and we'll see what fits you best yep cool well i think we have uh covered from top to bottom everything we can on this uh again this was for the shure mv7 now in stock shipping in stock shipping i'm probably gonna keep this one myself i really like this uh i what's it good for everything we just described podcasting uh any kind of youtube stuff uh anything you're doing like that uh pretty much anything you want to do with a microphone i think it would work for uh and the ease of setup with a computer is just ridiculous uh in a world today where everybody's trying to figure out how to do this sure figured out how to do it for you all you got to do is bring your computer bingo so awesome kevin thank you thank you for having me i hope we do some more podcasts we should definitely do some more podcasts this was awesome so hope you guys enjoyed it it's a little bit longer than our normal stuff but we talked about a lot so thanks and we'll see you soon

Channel: Springtree Media Group

Views: 14,913

Keywords: microphone, Shure, MV7, SM7B

Id: PLxOVLu3c4g

Length: 47min 44sec (2864 seconds)

Published: Wed Dec 02 2020