Shakespeare was a fake (...and I can prove it) | Brunel University London

here we had a debate between ross barber and alan nelson on whether shakespeare wrote the plays or not and we had an audience of about 89 okay you can see i'm very very keen to know the exact figures and 1400 watched our live stream so we've got a more modest audience tonight there were about 75 to 80 people booked so more may come along but i imagine there'll be about a thousand people or more watching us online so behave yourself okay because they're watching so uh welcome to our special event this evening so this is our second event in our shakespeare week uh the day after shakespeare's birthday and we've got a very special guest this evening who's going to deliver a very interesting quite complex but really really really interesting talk and he's such a great speaker he'll take you all the way through it so that by the end i think we'll all have our minds blown okay so keep that thought in your mind um afterwards we have drinks and nibbles so do stay around afterwards where you'll be able to talk to our speaker and also if you're very desperate you can speak to me as well if you can't find anyone else to speak to there was somebody laughed then they laughed as though to say you know that's true i know who that was actually um also we have this book for sale this is my shakespeare the authorship authorship controversy and it's edited by it's edited by me um and i've also got a chapter in there as has our speaker tonight and as has ros barber from last night and alan nelson from last night as well so do feel free to purchase copy of that and we'll sign it for you as well at no extra cost because we're such nice guys so this evening's talk is going to be on um one authorship candidate now for those of you new to the shakespeare authorship question a number of you will not be because i know you and recognize you this is a very very controversial subject in which the question is did shakespeare write the plays or not now we did deal with that question last night in our debate tonight we're going to take the next step in that question is if we assume that he didn't then who did and our speaker tonight is going to talk about a particular candidate and that is edward de vere the earl of oxford uh who i would say is probably at the moment uh is the most popular alternative candidate to shakespeare so this is through history has changed somewhat francis bacon used to be the most popular alternative perhaps christopher marlowe spent a bit of time as the most popular alternative but for a number of years now for for a few decades the most popular alternative has been edward de vere and alexander is going to talk about one aspect of that uh candidates candidature this evening now let me just introduce our speaker he is really quite a famous person i'm going to read read from his blurb in this great book if you're interested in it because it's even got the blurbs of all of the authors wow it's such a great book so he's the author of several books including fathers and sons and the house of wittgenstein it doesn't say this in this book he's also written a great book well it's got a great title anyway god the biography which i haven't read it but it sounds very interesting so he is a senior visiting fellow of the university of leicester and he's the general editor of a 43 volume scholarly edition for the oxford university press of the works of his grandfather evelyn war he's the co-editor of several books on shakespeare he's the honorary president of the shakespeare authorship coalition and chairman of the de vere society ladies and gentlemen please welcome tonight's special speaker alexander war thank you bill for your kind introduction thank you all for being here very much and hello streamers i hope you're very numerous out there and that if you're intoxicated or is it half as intoxicated as i am by what i'm about to show you did you spread the word and uh because i think it is very extraordinary what you're about to see and i hope i can convey just a half of how extraordinary i feel it is to tonight um i'm sure many of you know that it's not the anti-stratfordians necessarily who say that everything written about shakespeare during his lifetime is cryptic professor sir stanley wells who's perhaps the most notable most eminent shakespearean scholar of our days um goes through one after another of these um early allusions to shakespeareans is this one's cryptic this one's cryptic this one's cryptic this one's cryptic as though he's only got one word cryptic of course comes from the greek cryptane to hide um and what is being hidden that's what the poor old stratforians i hope there are some amongst us here but i don't mean it rudely but if there are will you try and address this question it's a very simple question if everybody who talked about shakespeare during his lifetime wrote about him cryptically what is it that they were forbidden from overtly expressing about shakespeare now if you don't think shakespeare was the man who actually wrote it but it's a pseudonym the answer is pretty simple okay now i'm going to talk i'm going to show you two things one i'm going to show you where shakespeare's really buried and we're all told that he's buried in stratford-upon-avon and secondly i'm going to show you who he is and i would be most surprised if anyone in this room is not entirely convinced when i get by the time i get to the end so let's start with where he's buried okay we're all told that he's buried in stratford-upon-avon in the holy trinity church in this grave which you can see does not have his name on it but has a silly little bit of um junky text actually we can be totally certain that he's not buried there and in 2016 there was a a deep penetrating radar was done on it turned out that underneath that stone is a space that is only three foot wide by three and a half foot long by three foot deep so you couldn't put a man in it even if you wanted to in 1819 the great writer washington irving was talking to the sexton and he said well we were doing some excavations there and we peeped inside and there was there was no coffin no body there's nothing but dust so the idea that he's not buried there was already very very strong indeed um just above the grave you see this monument many of you will be aware of it it's essentially a wall plaque and i want to start off by a discovery i made about two years ago with the epitaph of this monument first before i um do anything i just want to bring your attention to what's going on down there in the bottom right hand corner four t's marshalled together uh they won't mean anything to you yet i just leave you to remember them and to think about them and it's going to become very clear as we go along what those four t's are about let's just look at the text very quickly stay passenger why ghost thou bye so fast read if thou canst whom envious death hath placed within this monument shakespeare so that's very bad syntax and when you get very bad syntax in an age of extremely clever people then you probably think that something's being encrypted and it's hiding something well obviously he's not buried in this monument as i say it's a wall plaque and there is no room for a body to be buried in that wall plaque now just notice um a rather strange gap right there with space in some people have tried to say well that's a mistake it should be within but i've just told you he can't be buried within it it's a wall plaque so what's that gap doing well what is doing is suggesting you take out in this monument and separate it as i've just done there see what you've got left read if thou canst whom envious death have placed with shakespeare in this monument readeth outcomes to menview's death of place with shakespeare what's it asking you there's a riddle there it's asking a riddle it's saying who is shakespeare buried with with whom is he buried well if you're going to find the answer pretty quickly because it's going to be up in the top latin those of you who speak latin will know straight away that terra taget means earth covers so we've got our question who's he buried with the earth covers well you're obviously going to find the answer here and those of you who know your latin will know we have to go to the object of the sentence who does the earth cover it covers you diccio pillium that's pilios with his judgment pilius was a greek king by the way not a writer what's he doing on shakespeare's grave anyway it covers um socrates with his genius again socrates was a philosopher he wasn't a writer what's he doing on shakespeare's grave and it covers um marrow with his art very common in the renaissance to call virgil marrow but we just call him virgil nowadays but marrow is perfectly acceptable nothing nothing uh kinky or corrupt about that um okay so now we're answering the riddle are we with whom is shakespeare buried well he's buried with those ancients no he's not obviously he's not nobody knows where those people are buried so what's going on what's going on as we're having allusions there to slightly more modern people who he's actually buried with so who could they be we'll start with the easiest one marrow with his art if you go back to the time of shakespeare or those contemporaries and say who was the english marrow who is the english virgil well our modern marrow he's called our english virgil 1628 are lots and lots of um allusions to him and he is of course edmund spencer was known as the english virgil the english uh marrow and he's buried in westminster abbey in poet's corner right there next to him we have genio socrata which is socrates with his genius and yes there was a fellow who was addressed as oh socrates in 1385 the noble philosophical poet who had the heavenly mind of socrates socrates ingenium the genius of socrates he was said by his contemporaries to have and his name was jeffrey chaucer and he is buried right there next to spencer and then um we have eudiccio pillium that means judicious pillars to be a pillios or another name for billions is nesta to be a nestor or judicious means you were very judicious and very clever and there just happens to be a person who everybody at the time said was judicious he's also a writer and he was called judicious by anton pastel mosley cartwright cocaine fuller dryden langbane etc etc he was known as judicious beaumont the playwright so there we have the answer to our riddle he's buried right there so it's in the these allusions to these people are in the same order on the grave at stratford as they are in westminster abbey so i've just now reset those words stay passenger why ghost thou by so fast read in this monument if thou canst whom envious death with shakespeare have placed so i've even made it rhyme and scan it's got ten syllables per line so that's pretty clever and uh we know now the answer to to the riddle we know that he's placed with chaucer with bowman and with spencer who are in that lineup in poet's corner in westminster abbey okay i found that about two or three years ago now what i'm going to show you now and the main purpose of this meeting tonight is to show you what i consider an absolutely spectacular corroboration of that fact that he is buried in westminster abbey and not only that he's buried in westminster abbey i'm going to show you the exact spot where he's buried in westminster army and this is encrypted in these two pages the two pages of the same pamphlet shakespeare's sonnets published in 1609 printed by william aspley and the next page which is the dedication page now we've been talking about why things are cryptic and when they're cryptic we usually know they're cryptic because they're encrypted they are hiding something you only have to read that dedication to the only begetter of these ensuing sonnets mr wh all happiness and that eternal just you don't know where to breathe in this all happiness and that eternity promised by our ever living poet wish if the well wisheth adventurer in setting forth so just like we had on the monument at stratford-upon-avon we've got a syntactical nonsense and that is telling you that something is encrypted they were not stupid people in these days they didn't just write rubbish that has been compromised that text because there is something hidden there and that's what we're going to look at now we're going to have to go i'm afraid on a little diversion or let's call it a little prepping because to understand the encryption that i'm going to show you you have to get into the mindset of the very clever people who made it now who were these people well i can tell you what they were is they were hermetic christian philosophers i'll just give you very briefly account of what a hermetic christian is thinking he's thinking that god created the universe and everything in it using geometry using numbers and using letters and that is a job of a clever person in order to get close to god to learn so god created that table so i need to learn about that table the more i learn about everything in the universe including myself and i have according to this philosophy a little bit of the divine within me um then the more i learn about it the closer i get to god because the more i understand how the earth is created by god so this is what shakespeare was one of these and and a lot of people in the renaissance in italy in germany they were all obsessed with learning because it got them close to god and they were very interested in letters and numbers so let's get on to the visualize side of this i've given you a black line which isn't terribly interesting well it's an eye let's say it's an eye and if it's an i it stands for jesus remember there's no j in the latin alphabet it's also of course number one if i do that we all know that in roman numerals that is the number 10 it's also an x in greek which is a chi and therefore it is the um first initial of christ christos so if we put the two together we have the number nine and that gives us the initials christos by the way some people have said to me oh alexander you're being very tiresome i see what you're doing you're trying to make us join some cult religion not the case there's nothing to do with what i believe this this is what the people who made this code believed so we keep a distance between it but until you understand what they're doing it's difficult to understand the code so number nine is jesus and therefore it's a very sacred jesus christ the initials some of you may have seen that it's known as the iota chi christogram obviously a symbol of christ because it has eases crystals put together much more famous is that you see that on monuments in churches all over europe very christian sign and that's known as the chi rho christogram the reason for that is the top bit which looks like a capital p is actually in greek a capital rho an r and you've got the chi and the iota so you've got the first three letters essentially there of christ now this symbol it has an interesting history to it because it was first seen as a sort of epiphany up in the sky by king constantine at the battle of midian bridge and there he was fighting away and he suddenly saw this sign up in the sky and he said in hock signo ventures in this sign you will conquer so that sign the cairo symbol was then put onto the uniforms and the liveries and the shields of all his soldiers and off they went and indeed they conquered the sign of christ in hock signo in this sign you see has the initials i h s and i'm sure many of you will be familiar uh with the ihs symbol as it appears on priestly garb if any of you visited churches in rome i mean all over the place you see it ihs so it's a sign of jesus because not only is it in hock signo so it's telling you to look at the cairo symbol of christ but it also in greek is i iota h which in greek is a capital eta and the s which is a capital sigma so it's the first three letters of jesus so jesus christ okay um i promise you we're going to get to shakespeare we're getting there fast this is this is the the shakespeare grave we've just been looking at there you see that huge capital life jesus and yes in this case it is also a one and it tells you something if you go counting off in that direction i'm not going to go there at the moment i want you to look at that row of t's just beneath the word jesus they are actually very significant t okay sorry to keep going on this background once you've got the background we're going to gallop through it it's going to be really good fun capital t a little t obviously a small t is the sign of a cross pretty obviously and therefore as a sign of jesus what you might not be so aware of is a capital t is also a sign of jesus known as the tau cross if you look at many many many medieval and older paintings of the crucifixion you'll see he's actually crucified to a capital t known as the tau cross now the symbolism of this is pretty obvious and that obsession with numbers that they had in the renaissance is pretty obvious t well the word three begins with a t so does it in in latin which is tress and it's tris in greek begins with a t and of course it's got three points on it so three is what t symbolizes and that is already quite interesting if you're very interested in theology the trinity is three in one so you've got one symbol which is a t which is represented representing three right but we saw in that grave three t's in a row didn't we well that's interesting too because three t's in a row is three threes and three threes are nine which is christos so we have a beautiful way of explaining the mystery of the trinity in something that is both one and three and then you have three of them and it's still one so this is the sort of mindset that these people are are thinking on so important is other three t's that you some of you may have come across that and i would like you just to stare at it for a minute because it's going to come up a bit this is known as the triple tau also known as the clavis adversarum which means the key to the treasure and well you can say well it's just three t's and i've explained to you why the three t's are very important because of the trinity but actually it's a little bit more interesting than that there are four t's there i don't know if you can see them one to the left one to the right one on top and an upside down t a fourth t right in the very center of there now what i'm going to show you is something that i'm going to tell you now so it sounds most preposterous to you the most preposterous thing you could ever say shakespeare is that upside down fourth tee okay ha ha let's have a good laugh about it now we're going to see how it works okay let's get going so here we have the dedication to the sonnets of 1609 first thing you notice about it is its shape we've got three triangles that's very deliberate and i'm sure if you're thinking about it that a triangle is represented by three you'll notice that they're upside down triangles now we've been talking about a t if you have a capital t and you join all of its points what do you get you get an upside down triangle so in effect we not only have three here and obviously christ is represented by that if i um asked you to think of a letter that an upside down triangle represents you would almost certainly say v because it does um jesus says i am the way i am the truth and i am the life and of course in the vulgate in the latin that's ego i am i am i am so that's jesus too so what we're seeing here is representation of christ in threes just like those three t's this very very important symbol when jesus by the way says i am the way i am the truth and i am the life he is saying i am the beginning and i am the middle and i am the end i am the the way when you're born you start by this learning by finding out you find the truth and truth can mean also knowledge and through knowledge you have the vita the eternal life okay so t t t the triple tau what i'm telling you now is that is going to be the key to everything now when i say it's the key what do i mean by that i'm going to give you an analogy because i think it helps you to understand it think of a real actual key that you stick in a lock and you turn it and nothing happens it doesn't open the door you turn it twice nothing happens it doesn't open the door turn it three times and the door opens that's how this key works and every good encryption uh from the medieval times upwards has a key so what this is telling you is anything i show you has to be either repeated three times or it is not valid or it is endorsed by a symbol of christ three times or it is not valid and what's so extraordinary about this code is the way it works you simply can't not knock it down it's built like a proverbial brick house because it is made so that when it's discovered when it's found you can't knock it down you simply can't do it right let's let's get into this a bit so we've seen the three triangles the first first one is six lines long the second one is two lines long and the third one is four lines long now if um like me you believe that the earl of oxford wrote the shakespeare plays you're quite interested in that not very but quite interested six two four because it just so happens that the earl of oxford died um on the on june 24th six to four could be a reference to his death who knows let's hold on to it now a very clever man called john rollett who was a scientist looked at that 624 and said to himself what happens if we count the words that are demarcated by the dots and hyphens in the order six to 4. so the sixth word is these then you go two from their sonnets then you go four from there all and then you carry on six two four all to the end and you get this slightly strange message these sonnets all by ever the fourth team now as i say if if you're an oxford and you get a little bit excited about that you say oh these sonnets are all by ever ever edward vera or if you like an anagram of veer if you're not an oxford you say don't be silly and if you're not an oxford and also you say don't be even sillier by carrying on and saying the fourth t what are you talking about what on earth does that mean okay i'm going to just remind you one more time of that little um mark down there that very famous clavis adverse adversary and the key to the treasures the triple tower with its hidden upside down t so it seems a bit odd the fourth t why are we saying he's that now this is where i hope you will get start getting excited what i've done here is i've laid out the text of the the dedication that you've just seen to the only begetter of these ensuing sonnets i've laid it out in a grid of 19 columns and you're going to say well why did you do that and a perfectly good question why did i do that to be justified we want three reasons everything has to happen three times these sonnets all by ever the fourth t obviously t is something quite important we've seen it's a symbol of christ t in the latin alphabet happens to be the 19th letter t in the greek alphabet a tau is the 19th letter so in simple gomacha t equals 19. if you count the t's all of the t's on that dedication you'll find surprise surprise there are 19 of them and as i've told you our key to this whole thing is ttt which means christ christ christ what is 19 in roman numerals x i x which is christ jesus christ the via veritas the vita so that's why in very simple terms why i laid that out with 19 across now you will remember that the dedication had these three triangles of six lines two lines and four lines the total of that is 12 lines and they were symbolizing the triple tau that's what happens if we go to column 12 here what do we see t t t the triple tower the key to the treasures rather implying that we're going to find something very interesting here now now how are we going to get into this how are we going to start wrestling with all those letters and see what they're actually telling us remember we have to uh think of christ who is the beginning the middle and the end is that correct let's look at um row one uh column one what have we got t the symbol of christ the tau cross let's look at the very last letter t is the beginning and the end what about the middle what about yeasos of veritas let's draw a huge capital i right in the center of there now that is a very central symbol it's centered east west it's centered north south it's a capital i it represents isis if you look at the t at the top of it you have a perfect anagram of veritas truth if you look at the bottom the little stand that it's on you see three letters then that is the verb stem latin verb stem of venire to come don't be don't be alarmed that it's only a verb stem this is perfectly normal in monuments in documents you will see ob del ven is perfectly normal so what have we got we've got jesus the capital i and inside it we have veritas and then so we have a message before i go on to it i should have pointed that sorry let's caught myself out there we are in column 10 the columns are very important 10 is x so we've actually got jesus christ you've got the i the huge i have put there and x which is tense you've got jesus christ now let's just look at the contents of that we have in yeasm veritas vein so right in the center of our grid we are being told that the truth comes in jesus okay now what that is don't get muddled we've got two things we've got the key which is t ttt everything was big three times and now we've got the rules the rules are whenever you get stuck on this grid you go back to this you find jesus and then you know where you're going so let's say we're stuck on the grid and let's get going let's start to find this message exactly the same grid i've done nothing to it i've just taken off that capital i but it's otherwise it's the same i've left the triple tower in column 12 highlighted and i've also highlighted in red the word fourth there okay so how do we get into this i've just told you in jazum veritas vein it and i'm going to keep asking you to see if you're really concentrating each time we get stuck in jesus we look for the truth so we're going to look for jesus okay where are you look for it well didn't i tell you that 9 is a symbol of jesus ix jesus christ so nine is a very important column is there anything about jesus going on in that column that we can see well fun enough yes there is ish in signo hawk do you remember that sign i showed you in this sign in signo hawk vincez could be in a hot signal it doesn't really make any difference and there of course you can see the vin the verb stem insigno hawk ventures in this sign you will conquer so we know there's a sign there under the nine of christ and we should therefore be able to find the sign well i've been quite helpful to you already because i've highlighted the word fourth and i've highlighted the word the three t's and we are looking for the fourth t do you remember we had that message these sonnets all by ever the fourth t we're looking for the fourth t we think it might be an upside down t so let's bang it straight on top of the word fourth what you have there is a rabus i don't know if you can see what's written inside it but you should be able to see the name de vir okay now i don't need to remind you i don't think of what we found here these sonnets all by ever the fourth t and now we have what is plainly the fourth t because it's got fourth it's got three t's next to it and it's an upside down t and it says de ver now you'll remember that i said that anything to be validated needs to be heard three times so if there's anyone out there on the web or here in the room who's now beginning to panic that edward de vere might be proven to be shakespeare keep calm because it's not validated yet we have to have it at least three times but i think it's at least very interesting where do we go from here well i think i've explained it but i'll say it one more time in future i'm going to ask you to answer this to check you're really on to it what we do is we look for jesus in jesus veritas vain that was right at the center if you don't know what to do next you look for jesus so how do we find him well let's just draw him on there's a capital i for jesus we've had one and we will have three everything comes in threes okay um and look where it is um column nine very useful and what do you see at the top lies here now we already had de vere and now we've got lies here it looks like we're going to be told where he's buried and if you're a purist who says hang on wait a minute i don't like the way you're using e r e twice for here and for veer that's surely a cheat i say look at the stem of this capital i where you have e d v which obviously stands for edward de vere lies here so we're going to be told where edward de vere is buried now this time i'm going to ask you in the audience how are we going to proceed we've got to the bottom e of here what do we do next anyone look for jesus in veritas vayner that second e i don't know if anyone can see it but it's kind of obvious um it is right there i s h we've had this once in hok signo there it is at the top this is the second time and yes of course we will have to have it three times because everything comes in threes so in this sign we're going to see where he's buried the sign is clearly going to be on top and save you the bother of looking for it yourselves there it is what is that it's an upside down cross what's an upside down cross well it's often known as a petrine cross or the cross of some peter if you remember the story 69 a.d poor old peter they caught up with him and said right we're going to crucify you and he said no you can't do that because that's what you did to jesus and jesus is much more important than me you must crucify me upside down this particular very old painting of of the upside down peter notice what's between his legs it's that capital t that's that's the the tau cross it's the blessing of jesus as peter is crucified upside down okay so we've got an upside down cross so what does that mean it is a saint peter's cross let's just write that there look at the bottom of that cross you have an s at the bottom with an o just above it with a u to the right it looks like a v but it's our ever living poet it's a u and to the left of that a y well a y as i'm sure you all know in renaissance writing uh it's a form when you say ye only in ye oldie book shop it's a it's a joke of the victorians to pronounce it yi it's not it's a th and it's the old bookshop the old inn so what have we got there we've actually got s-o-u-t-h which spells south and just above that in the in the stem there we've got isle you can see that nowadays commonly spent spelt a-i-s-l-e but very commonly spelled in early modern english i l e isle so let's put those elements together we have south cross aisle saint peters well that's interesting and now you're going to say to me what the hell are you talking about alexander because you've just told me that he's in poet's corner in westminster abbey what's this joke about south cross isles and peters if you go on the website of westminster abbey you'll discover that the real name of westminster abbey is saint peter's church of course there was no poet's corner in those early days this is a a piece of writing um from the 16 something by anthony wood and he's talking about a man who loved geoffrey chaucer so much for whose memory he had so greater respect that he removed his bones into the south cross isle or transept of saint peter's church westminster so what we now call poet's corner is the south cross isle of san peters westminster but oh you're going to say to me we don't have westminster all you found you buffoon is south cross isles and peters there lots of saint peter's and peter's in corn hill in london extra cathedral is i think it's called some peter's millions of them and they all have south cross isles where's westminster well already you know that everything comes in three so we're going to have to find a third symbol and we're going to have to look for it and i'm going to ask you to remind me what we do when we're stuck what do we look for oh you did a lot of atheists in this room just even saying jesus is so painful yes jesus don't worry it's their belief if you don't hold the belief in jesus it doesn't matter it doesn't affect this code right so where's jesus we remember he's symbolized by ish there he is pretty obviously we've seen him obviously we're moving in that direction so he was bound to be there actually this is particularly interesting if you look what's right next to it you have ihs backwards you've got jesus backwards why would that be well i can tell you why it's b we're going to see a flipped image just above it and there it is there you will see a shape which shows the knave the two crocodiles and the cloisters that are built out of the nave uh if i and it's a flipped image and if i were to bring up a flipped image reversed image of the ground plan of westminster abbey underneath it you'll see precisely what i'm talking about there you see the nave and the cross isles and you see how the cloisters are built out from the south cross aisle so i put it back there okay so what's it saying it's pretty obvious you've kind of guessed it haven't you you see the very easy there and all of the rest of the letters after the combine in a nice neat anagram of westminster the westminster that was the the area was known as thorny and then it became known as the westminster and just in case there were two churches in the area called the westminster calls and peters well they've made it perfectly obvious it's westminster abbey by drawing the ground plan of westminster abbey why is it flipped well a couple of reasons i can think of the dedication is to mr wh and a lot of scholars i think the vast majority probably of scholars think that mr wh is henry rothfussy third old of southampton with his initials flipped obviously if you had hw you wouldn't have westminster you'd have hestminster which would be total nonsense another reason i think it's flipped is it now allows you it's telling you to read the message as you would normally read from left to right if you take row one uh columns one and two you see two so basically you have the message to the westminster at the south cross aisle saint peter's edward de vere lies here absolutely beautiful and ingenious i did say to you at the beginning that every single one of those symbols is three times endorsed by a symbol of christ and i'm giving you this presentation today and not showing you that if if you're very interested and you're stimulated by this and you want to see exactly how that works and there's a lot of other things hidden on this grid um can i advertise oh i don't get any money out of it some uploads i've been doing on on youtube and there's one called where is shakespeare really buried and i'll give you give you all the detail and it's absolutely fascinating about how those three symbols are endorsed not just by the ish but by other things that are going on around them okay so this tells us unfortunately what we already knew that he's in poet's corner but we don't know where um about a year ago a fellow called um alan greene took a look at the front page of this document the title page that you're looking at now and found something really extraordinary he realized that if you draw a line from the dot by the g there up to the dot by imprinted and then you start connecting the two ends of that line via significant points on the right hand side something strange happens so if we take the top of those parallel lines and we draw a triangle we find we have a right angle triangle if we do the next line down exactly the same another right angle triangle if you take the dot after the word aspley not only if you've got a right angle triangle there you've actually got a perfect pythagorean 345 triangle if you take the dot after 1609 by gosh we've got another right angle triangle now anyone who's done geometry a level or possibly o level will instantly know of thales theorem and what that's telling you it's telling you that we actually have six points on the circumference of a concealed perfect circle now what is that doing there why is that hidden when i first saw this and it the man who discovered it i think brought it out in about april last year i couldn't work out what the purpose of it was and all i could think was there's some sort of masons workers masons are obsessed with geometry and hidden things and maybe mason's published it then when i got all that interpretation that i've just shown you and to find that shakespeare is actually buried in poet's corner and it occurred to me who would go to that extortionate trouble that i've just shown you of encoding that thing so beautifully to the westminster the south cross isle edward de ville lies here and not bother to tell us the exact spot where he's buried poet's corner is about 80 foot by 60 foot it's a big area why would you go to that trouble so then i thought well hang on maybe this is the clue and it's going to tell us the exact spot where he's buried so how do we go about it yes we have to find jesus and jesus will tell us the truth in jesus veritas vein so how are we going to do that well we um put the circle that alan green discovered and the diameter line from the g dot to the imprinted dot now if you take a line from that g dot horizontally until it touches the circumference on the other side and you cross back through the very center of the circle down through the stem of the p what have we got it's the cairo symbol again in hock signo this is exactly the sign we saw three times was referenced on that grid and now we have it a fourth time we've got jesus okay we found jesus now what's what what what what do we do he's going to tell us some truth how is he going to do it well it's kind of obvious this bit isn't it there's only one way we're going to find any truth from this is we look where it's pointing and let's start then with the big cross right in the center if we look at the top right we see it's pointing to d e top left v e bottom right r e and bottom left by g what does g mean i'm sure you've all seen the absolute standard symbol of the freemasons it's a it's a capital g within a compass and a square that g stands for god geometer the um the grand architect of the universe back to this idea i was telling you about god created the universe using numbers and geometry so it's god is what it means so what is this cross telling us shakespeare's sonnet by god and de vir i.e thereby devere but by the grace of god that is within him don't panic if you can't bear the idea that de vere wrote shakespeare's sonnet because i haven't validated it i've only shown it to you once so you can all breathe easy at least for another 15 minutes before i show you it's going to happen three times but for the time being let's ignore that these sonnets are by god and de vere because what we're looking for is not who wrote the sonnets at the moment we're still looking for the exact spot where he's buried so we've looked at the the four points on the cross and you notice there's another point that i haven't looked at yet uh just down there that final point which goes down and lands on a dot which appears to be captioned by a t now um how are we going to i don't really want that to happen okay um it's captioned by a t what do we know about t and de vir we know one thing well we say we know it we've had it kind of twice that veer is the fourth tea do you remember that these sonnets all by ever the fourth tea and then we saw the upside down tea with fourth with devere in it so let's count the teas on this page and see if that works out there's the first t comes in in the word sonnet the second t is in the word imprinted the third one appears in at yes it is the fourth t we seem to have this line of jesus landing on a dot just by the fourth t and we know that veer is the fourth t so that's quite interesting is it not let's take a closer look remember we're trying to find out the exact spot where he's buried were there any clues here now is that fourth tv or is it good enough just to say the fourth t uh is veer just because we've had these two i don't think it is i think we need some further proof that that 40 is actually veer so let's go to it long before the t was a symbol of christ the tau cross long before the crucifixion long before christ even came onto this earth the t was a symbol of something else um what we've got written there is i've gone just before it we've got 40 and just before that i've put in the italicized d of l we have a d for t and i'm going to show you how this works the ancient symbolism of t that is uh the greek as i'm sorry the egyptian hieroglyph tau t a w representing the sound of t that i'm sure many of you recognize it's even more ancient possibly and that is the symbol of the constellation of taurus meaning the ox or the bull that is the oldest form of the greek tau why is the greek tower called the tau because of tauros meaning the ox that is the more standard version of the towel again you can see the horns in the head and the latin which is derived from that also known as tau so it's the ox so whichever way you cut it the ancient ancient symbolism of t is an ox right d for t what does that mean i'll give you four lemons and you give me a pound pound for four lemons means we swap you give me the pound you give me the full lemon so let's swap these two over remembering the t is the symbol of an ox and what do we have oxford interesting oxford so we have got him he's the fourth t and he's oxford we're going to come back to this but i'll just remind you for the time being that we've had these sonnets all by ever the fourth tea we've now showed the fourth tea on the front page is oxford is the earl of oxford and of course we had that upside down tea which was the fourth tea with devire written in it so whatever it means and we perhaps don't even understand it yet the fourth t is oxford like it or not that's been validated ttt three times okay oxford's the fourth t's not doesn't seem to be getting us many places okay but it's exciting so we're looking for where he's buried and look what we've got written just above that t and the dot the word london and of course we now know that he's in poet's corner in westminster abbey because we've worked that out from the from the second page the grid so we've got london we've got the fourth t which we know is oxford we've got that dot which is being pointed out by the sign of christ coming down so it really does look like this dot is going to show us where he's buried but how we're going to go about it okay there's the title page denuded of all that geometry except for the circle and the line that comes down from the cairo symbol hitting that dot next to it i'm placing a ground plan map of poet's corner the south cross aisle at westminster abbey okay now first thing you'll probably notice when you look at the line on the title page notice that it's not exactly centered is it in fact the whole circle is set off slightly to the right hand side if you look at the ground plan of westminster abbey you see there's a row of pillars also set off slightly to the right hand side so it's an indication perhaps that that line on the title page is supposed to represent that line of pillars on the ground plan map of the uh of poet's corner actually if you were to put a compass onto the bottom pillar there and point it straight up through those pillars you would think it would actually go due north point of fact actually westminster abbey is built on a very slight tilt it's about 4 4.5 degrees northeast if you look on the title page where that line goes up just close to the n and away from the e of sonnets it's telling you it's just off to the northeast and it's really confirming that that line is intended to represent that line of pillars in the south cross aisle so how are we going to deal with this well it's not actually too complicated what we're going to do is we're going to take the very central pillar on the ground plan the center of that center pillar take the center of the two outer pillars draw a circle around it and then we're going to overlap the circle overlay i should say the circle that's on the title page and wherever that dot is that little dot by that t will tell us we hope that that is where edward de vere is buried so let's move it across there you see the point where it lands is just there i'll try and expand it so you can actually see it and turn it round i don't know if anyone can read that word it's pretty dim i'm afraid yes someone can read it you're right it does it does say shakespeare and it lands exactly in the center of the place where the shakespeare monument was put up in 1740. oh that's pretty interesting isn't it that was put there in 1740 and we're told by this document in 1609 that edward de vere the person who as bill has said is the most popular candidate who've written the shakespeare plays happens to be buried precisely under that spot so what's going on i think we sort of know what's going on we're talking about some form of proto-masonic group a masonic group when he died and he was part of it and they continued and did the first folio and we'll come to that and then all those years later they put that thing right on top let's just have um sorry that's where the shakespeare monument is on the map let's just have a closer look at this um amazing thing first thing you'll notice is he's pointing at a scroll what do we have on the left hand side of it t t t t forties do you remember seeing those right at the beginning of my talk on the stratford monument in the bottom right hand corner and now we've got four t's in the top left hand corner this uh little bit of writing comes obviously from shakespeare it's from the tempest and here it is in the first folio and like the baseless fabric of a vision the cloud cap towers the gorgeous palaces the solemn temples the great globe itself yea all that it inherit shall dissolve and like this insubstantial pageant faded leave not a rack behind we are such stuff as dreams are made on he's talking about disappearing which is of course precisely what shakespeare did and it's precisely what edward de vere did he totally vanished uh look what he's pointing at he's pointing at the word temples we are obviously looking at some sort of proto-masonic group which is connected to templary edward de vere occupied the masters rooms at the savoy hospital in the strand very near to the temple church was owned by the templars and clearly he's part of this and bacon i'm absolutely sure bacon took over when he died pointing at temples there's the word temples the first folio this is the great set of plays published in 1623 36 shakespeare plays says though the meanest of things are made more precious when they are dedicated to temples in that name therefore in the name of temples we most humbly consecrate to your hh that's a trick joke by the way it's holies it means god these remains of your servant shakespeare so the first folio the great book of shakespeare plays is consecrated in the name of temples and then in 1740 we see the statue he's pointing at temples so we're looking at this sort of templar movement have a look at the statue in toto what the bizarre way he's standing got his right elbow sticking out and his legs crossed as i just told you he was very close to the templar church where of course all the knights templars are buried if we look at a typical knight's templar grave what do we see right elbow sticking out and legs crossed i would love to be able to get behind both of these statues and show you what they look like from the other side but i can't do that so i'm going to cheat and just flip the image like that which i hope now gives you a clue about what's going on here yes it's we're back to this it's insigno hawk it is the cairo symbol they're standing in the shape of christ and as some paul says in the galatians christ liveth in me and i'm sure you might know this but by the grace of god says sir paul i am that i am i am that i am is the name of god you remember when moses says to god and who shall i say i've been speaking to and god says i am that i am and quite a lot of christians believe it's utterly blasphemous to say i am that i am because you're taking the name of god in vain but so paul says i am that i am i labored more abundantly than they all yet not i but the grace of god which was within me um edward de vere in a letter to lord burley says i serve her majesty and i am that i am and the only other person from that whole period i can find who has the audacity to say i am that i am is a certain william shakespeare who writes in his sonnet one two one i am that i am and they that level at my abuses reckon up their own so what is going on here this is back to this idea that the sonnets are by god and de vere they are by devere and the grace of god within him now i'm going to finish up by doing the bit that perhaps we're all most interested in yes it's terrific fun to discover where shakespeare is actually buried but we want to know don't we who shakespeare actually was and i've said to you that in order to validate anything in this code we have to hear it three times and i did show you the message that shakespeare's sonnet by god and de vere and now i'm going to show you how that message appears three times and then at the end we're going to have little surprise so three times in these two pages well the first one i've already shown you so we can go through it extremely quickly just really as a reminder you find that hidden geometry you find god not perhaps literally and then you find the symbol of christ which was there oh that's kind of a bit wonky and then you look where it's pointing and we have shakespeare's sonnet by god and de vir that's just reminding you i've shown you that already and i hope you remember how that works so that's number one okay number two at the bottom of that page the same page do you remember i showed you uh d for t and how d for t when you looked at it as a as a symbol of an ox and you swap it round you get oxford d for t i want you to look very carefully at that t which i've used to make oxford and look how it looks very different from the tea next to it in fact it's been made very deliberately to look like the head of an ox so it's you're being guided a little way here that line is precisely 17 letters long and these encrypters as i've been saying to you are obsessed by numbers numbers are important so let's put 17 there and let's use every single one of those 17 letters to see if we can get this message well we've got bi that's pretty simple we can all see that then we've got g and t now the first thing you'll notice is that that t is in exactly the same what's called a swash font as that g what is it telling you is the t as you know is the tau cross it's the symbol of christ and the g as you already know is a symbol of god and christ says i and the father are one we are the same thing so therefore the g and the t are the same they are god gt what we got else on this line oh and that's nice and easy we don't have to think about that and we don't have to do an anagram well what's left we've got e-l a-r-e and as we all know that is the way most commonly the word er was spent spelt in those days so we have shakespeare's sonnet by god and the 17th earl of oxford and that is your second time i'm sorry if you're really anti-oxfordians you guys we're gonna have to hold your breath because we're awfully close now to validating the whole thing we're now going to do a third time we saw did we not how we used this 6 2 4 code how we counted the words demarcated by the dots and hyphens and we got the message these sonnets all by ever the fourth t well forget about fourth t for the moment these sonnets by evier yes you're saying to me but the message we're looking for is these sonnets are by god and delir so where's god let's have a look at this again let's do the same thing 6 2 4 and this time we're going to count not the words demarcated by the dots and hyphens but just the words demarcated by the dots in the order six to four these sonnets all by ever living well wishing t now t as i've told you is christ i and the father are ones as christ so t is god these sonnets all by ever living well wishing comes from the latin bene well vollens wishing benevolent his benevolence endureth forever chronicles 9 9 these sonnets all by ever living benevolent god and we got that just by the simple little twitch of switching on or switching off the hyphens you get these sonnets by veer with them on these sonnets by god with them off so there again you have your third we've now validated it but and here's the little surprise because i haven't shown this to anyone yet do you remember the key to the whole thing is this symbol known as the clavis adversarum the key to the treasures the triple tau and you remember how i told you that it's called the triple tau because it consists of three t's one to the left one on top and one to the right and i also told you that it has at its center a hidden t the fourth t upside down t which we know is de ver because four three times we've been told that de vere is the fourth t this is it's all about hermetic philosophy actually in some christian theology they say that the trinity has a fourth part there's god the father god the son god the holy spirit and there's jesus the son of man so it's that connecting part between the divine and the earthly and this is mercury as we all know shakespeare is often called mercury edward de vere is said by gabriel harvey to be winged like to mercury bacon took this on this was bacon symbol when when devere died okay so we've got this hidden fourth t i've shown you three times the hidden fourth t is de vere now if i am right then that these three upside down triangles are a simulacrum of the three t's the t t t then we should expect to find a fourth t an upside ante that represents edward de vere right in the center right in the heart of it just as we find the center upside down t in in the triple tau so if we're going to find this message we know what we're looking for we're looking for something that is upside down like that so i'm going to take that the words in that triangle are ever living poet wisheth and i'm going to make an anagram out of it like that very nice and simple let's just see what it says g double v the poet vero nihil various veronie hilverius means nothing truer than truth and it is the family motto of edward de vere vero knee hill various also means nothing truer than via and this ambiguity is very very deliberate nothing true revere nothing truer than truth remember jesus says i am the truth ego some veritas so it's both god and it's veer so what's actually being said here is nothing truer than veer by the grace of god within him so how did he get this funny motto well you can see that it says veer twice in it various and veer very similar and the two v's that you see there double v actually edward de vere used double v as a pseudonym when his secretary john lilly wrote a pamphlet called pap for the hatchet edward de vere wrote the preliminary remarks and signed them yours at an hour's warning double v um actually he used double v as well as william shakespeare and you sometimes see them together here's an example written by double v see though you see those visa not even touching each other written by double v and of course it's it's william shakespeare othello and in quite a lot of the of the shakespeare quarters and also in the first folio you see this double v it's just giving a a hint that it is de ve the two v's the double v it's de vere so uh double v so what have we got here g double v the poet and so put that back into there and you see our ever living perch it's hidden it's the upside down t right there in the middle the fourth t hidden that uh it's by tavir and the poet so this is the very end i think the last thing i'm going to show you that's your fourth reason so i'm afraid if anyone's not believing now that these things are inviting we might as well resign and go home okay yes we've had it once we've had it twice we've had it three times and we've had it four times the same complicated message shakespeare's sonnets by god and de vere a very complicated message and if anyone can say to me with their hand on their heart looking even remotely sensible and serious that that is just a fluke that you can get such a complicated message as that hidden four times in two pages just by chance well um you send me an essay on it but i'm it's going to be very very very hard to believe thank you everybody i think that's all i've got to say at the moment there'll be time for questions if there is any time and bill's probably looking at his watch thank you i hope you enjoyed it oh exhausting isn't it it's exhausting it's like giving birth but think of the people who made it i mean so i've never spent so much time looking for jesus i have to say but so thank you very much alexander i think you'd all agree uh that that's a a beautiful thing that we've just witnessed there very complex very interesting but very beautiful thing now we're going to open now for questions in a moment uh but just before we do let me ask a couple of things so we've got two questions really the first one so you started off saying you know how important it was um the culture of the hermetic christians and and the masons and so on i guess involved in all of this but could you tell us a bit more about hermetic christianity at this moment in time in this place um well in this place is is tricky in this sense but we've got john d who was in this place if we're talking about um english people who are very keen on actually i think john dee may have been the guy who who made these uh these codes and if you look uh at the one i put on online you'll see uh john d seems to be signing it um but it was it was actually a pan-european thing i mean it was it was particularly big in italy and it goes back to um hermes trisum agustus this idea of hermes who is who is mercury who who is not exactly a god we think of we think of hermes as the messenger of the gods he's someone who is supremely clever supremely learned and sort of becomes worshipped in a way um now we're we're in terrible danger and i tried in this presentation to show the things that we can see the things that are there that we can't argue about but obviously bill we have to start now speculating what what what is over and above this what's it telling us and we get in dangerous waters when we speculate i already mentioned the templars and there are people who think before he's saying he's a templar haha masons is another word that people start ripping their sides with laughter about oh masons didn't exist until 1717. i mean as far as we can all understand this the masons become this sort of huge umbrella group for an awful lot of societies that were secret some of them religious um they weren't called masons in edward de vere's time and i did show you how they're pointing at the word templars and and that obviously comes up temporary now temporary we think of a medieval thing of knights going off to the um to the middle east and fighting on the crusades um but we also think of of bernard of clervo who's the founding patron saint of them who was highly intellectual um in his theology and there's been a book written not about oxford in 1920 going through all of shakespeare and saying shakespeare was the founder of something called royal arch freemasonry now actually the key symbol of royal arch freemasonry is the triple tower it's what we've just been looking at and there's lots of stuff when you read shakespeare that shows that he was he was deep in masonic thought and language and symbolism and it's it's extremely convincing in the history of the anti-stratfordian movement or we now say non-stop forwarding movement in a peaceful way it was the baconians who kicked up with this first and the baconians noticed um the connection between shakespeare and freemasonry and of course rosicrucianism that's that's another thing that then gets sort of sucked into the freemason movement as does temporary but the baconians were onto this and at the beginning of the 20th century were writing quite a lot of books on it and this is one of the things i've learned about the being in the non-stratfordian movement is a lot of rubbish has been written but there's so many gems as well and the way to get to the bottom of this i'm afraid is by endless reading and i've read buckets of baconian books even though i i know bacon's not correct but they they're clever people they're all clever guys they they found things and i think now we need to go back baconianism was roundly laughed at for using too many ciphers and and people thought they were getting silly and i think they were getting silly however they stuck to one point as we know that cyphers were incredibly important in those days and they were used a lot and we know that so much that said about shakespeare is cryptic so at least they're making an effort unlike professor stanley wells who who sees it's cryptic and won't try to get underneath it but the baconian movement has been slightly um besmirched by slightly crazy attempts to de-encrypt and i was always frightened of de-encrypting and thinking it's a silly thing to get involved in because anything can technically mean anything once you have a symbol i mean if if a glass could be as well this is a symbol of anything i could say anything can be a symbol of anything else so it's a very it's a very loose world where we can all start just inventing anything and anyone can come up with a crazy theory i mean the only reason i present this is because i think it is absolutely watertight because what he's done is he's triangulated everything um so that even if you show one oh that's rubbish oh that's obvious hang on three times we see everything's got to happen three times as i said it's been built like an absolute fortress so you can't knock it down and there's only one reason they did that is they wanted when you found the truth to know you found the truth now i haven't found anyone who's been able to deconstruct this in any way or knock it down and i've had people very very sad because they've long held theories with whether it's bacon or whether it's someone else um i had a very nice person emailed me i could feel the tears coming through the email saying um i know what she said because she wanted to preserve her own candidate she said i know what it's it's all a misdirection they're setting up veer as as a bluff for shakespeare so people get it wrong still and they hide the real one i said well hang on and they already set up stratfor jackson man it's the bluff you have a bluff within a block within a bluff i think he gets far too much um but when you say they set it up like a fortress yeah who is the they in your face the the the closest i can come to this is john d john d seems to have signed every one of these encryptions now what i showed you today when i showed you the 19 grid i showed you three symbols going to the left boing boing boing which told you where he's buried but actually three symbols also going to the right and then we've got um the the front covers you've got three three encryptions each of those encryptions is signed sometimes very quaintly and amusingly the first of those three which is the one i showed you in westminster abbey where you had the cloister do you want me to show it to you it's quite funny yeah it is quite funny actually i haven't got the other ones on my computer at the moment i can just show you that one because um i think it will abuse you um and you see how he signs it it's as quaint as queen can be oh i can't find it maybe it says waste of time to go click click through it what he does is right in the middle of the cloister he just has a d it's in the center of the cloister of westminster abbey is a d on the second one he writes d diagonally across it and on the front cover d always used to sign his name with a with a with a triangle which is a a delta in greek capital delta which is a d and that appears on the on the front cover too and d was the great encrypter of his age d was the man to whom the queen came to who the court came to ask for its opinions of the future and he was a mathematician and he was i mean look whoever did this is extremely clever and dee was the cleverest man at this sort of thing it's it's obviously very interesting because d apparently dies in 1609 and this has got 1609 written on it but one does wonder whether some of this stuff wasn't prepared a bit earlier i mean why is it that shakespeare's grave so-called grave in stratford-upon-avon doesn't have his name on it well it's not until you de-encrypt that which can be done in exactly the same way as i've shown this that you realize it'd be highly inconvenient to put his name on it because it was planned long before stratford of shakspur died stacked for jacks but so he doesn't have his name on it that stone is put there to tell you something else all right okay okay so can we um open it out now for questions perhaps we could have the lights up so that we can see all of these lovely people and um we've got a roving mic so if anyone has got a question would you kindly put up your hand and then just wait for the microphone to come so we've got one here in the middle if you would and then we've got one up there so if this one first of all can you see here yeah yeah and then one over there the second question yeah how long okay took you to work this out because you say the guy who invented it was extremely clever it seems to me the guy who decoded it he's failing right um i keep finding more things out about it so it's an ongoing thing and in fact one of the things i showed you tonight the upside down t having that by oh i missed a little thing out once oh can i please show you that very last things is actually brilliant such a shame i wanted to show you tonight you remember i did the upside down t in the center and i showed you that um de vere's death date is six to four and some people said that those three triangles were like a funerary urn and i said what you have to do to find the upside down t is you turn you turn that triangle around so you've got god at the top de viere the poet very neal various if you put that back not only suddenly just the whole um dedication now makes sense which it never did before but also you've got the perfect picture of a funeral i said so stupid i should have i showed it to you but i didn't i didn't highlight it so you probably didn't see it sorry but in answer to your question certain bits of it went very fast indeed i mean i i was in the most fortunate position because i knew that edward defeat was buried in poet's corner because i'd worked it out from the from the monument at stratford so the minute i saw lies here de vere lies here i knew what i was looking for i knew i was looking for poet's corner and and and i knew it would be somewhere nearby and when i saw that ish the most exciting moment i tell you from my point of view was when i found the south cross isle edward de ville lies here south cross isles and peters that moment and seeing the third ish that moment of knowing for certain that there was going to be some sign above there and it was going to say westminster in it above that ice age i knew it it absolutely knew it i knew that so it's buried i knew he had the three ishs so then i set about it and i saw and i got a bit confused because of the the i could see that westminster was there and then i saw the vern i said it must be the westminster and then i looked back and i saw it as a map of the ground plan of westminster abbey and it was just the most extraordinary thing but you see i knew what i was looking for so that's why it didn't take quite as long as you might think i knew that westminster was there and then and then on the second thing which is on the front page i actually found that that cairo symbol on there before i knew anything at all and it was i went back to that saying now i know that that's going to be where he's buried so again it was reasonably quick because i found the cairo and i said how are we going to turn that into a map of the south cross aisle and it turned out to be very simple i saw those those columns and those lines and it was just telling me how to do it i sort of guided by the obviousness of it in some ways the last little bit of the clue that i've put to together is what that fourth t is and the presentation i've given this evening actually is the first time i've really come down heavily now on the side of saying that fourth t is the upside down t in the triple tower but first i thought is it the cross of some peter why why is edward de vere the fourth tea is he is he a sinner is it to do with some peter being the patron saint of sinners he was he was crucified upside down the fourth cross i've given up on all that now and i'm absolutely sure it's the upside down t it's the mercury it's the herm the figure of hermes the link between the divine and the earthly that's i mean that's that bit came together literally in the last sort of three weeks thank you so there's a question up there up there and then we'll come to you thanks very much in terms of it is very curious um i haven't done very much work on it the man who's done the most work on that is the man called alan green he was the one who discovered that geometry hidden there and what i remember is he looked at all those um what's the word for them there's a word when when when two letters are are related as one is it's gone out of my head but he looks at all of those and he sees that they fall in the pattern of six two and four across that which is curious because we've had this six two four theme already actually one thing i didn't tell you as well is that where edward davier is buried right under that shakespeare monument um is at an exact triangle a 30 60 90 degree triangle with chaucer and spencer and of course the um the ratios there are also six to four and i i don't know whether that's relevant or not you know one comes across these strange things that connect but i'm sorry i can't really give you a good answer but the if you go online and try and find out what alan green is saying about it he's the guy who probably knows a bit more about it than i do so there's a question just here just wait just wait for the microphone please thank you i know um but when could this have happened i mean because stratfor so i went to westminster abbey and they said very firmly to me that if someone is re-entered then that reinterpreter is not entered into the abbey records and that's the case across the board edward de vere we know was buried in hackney died in 1604 and was buried in hackney and his wife in 1612 leaves a will says i want to be buried next to my dear husband only i would like to have a proper monument erected because there obviously wasn't anything there again this goes back to shakespeare saying my name be buried where my body is he wants to disappear in some straight way so the next thing we know is in 1619 i think is the correct date the vicar of stratford upon avon is ticked off reprimanded very severely for taking cash trousering it into his back pocket for booking spaces in the chancel for people to be buried it's an holy trinity then we have a man called brathwaite who writes a book about monument inscriptions and he goes into stratfor church and this publishes this in 1618 and he doesn't mention the shakespeare monument so i'm thinking that possibly the shakespeare monument isn't there in 1618. now my best guess so sorry just to pick up on what you just said in case other people don't know this um the first cousin of edward de vere who's called percival golding who's the son of arthur golding the translator of metamorphosis the great uh influence on shakespeare percival golding writes a little history of the veer family and at the end of it he says edward de vere great and brilliant in mind and fought now lies buried at westminster and the date of this we think is sometime between 1619 and 1624. now my guessing and it is speculating is that edward de vere was moved in 1619 um and and and i think the shakespeare jokes up in stratford happen at the same time so i hate all this in one way i remember when i started being a sort of non-stratfordian and people said ah you're a conspiracy theorist now you say no well i'm not a conspiracy person i'm just someone who who believes that people write under pseudonyms that's all isn't a conspiracy well i'm afraid to say i i now know there was a conspiracy so yes i'm a conspiracy theorist um but there just was a conspiracy it has to be that there there is an extraordinary connection between that sonnets and how i decrypted it just now and the um shakespeare grave in stratford and if you put that into a grid of 17 you get exactly the same upside down t with de vere written it with three t's next to it the same person's done the both of them so yes it was it was a conspiracy and i suspect that de vere was was part of it um there's one aspect of this which makes me almost tremble with excitement but i won't necessarily tell you but there's some very intere well there's some very very interesting evidence to suggest that the first folio which comes out in 1623 was being prepared paginated i mean every dotted line before via died in 1604 and why i'm so excited about the possibility of this because if it's true and if it's right i suspect that that the manuscript of the first value might be extant it might yet appear and we even think might know where it is but that's another story that would be quite exciting yes okay uh another question right at the back there yeah just wait for the bike yeah please thank you exactly the same as you showed the right position pointing to the word i think it's um that is the most interesting one because that was done at the same time by the same people and it's thought to be in a sense the twin so you think there is a little bit i'm absolutely certain there's a link don't forget that the the first folio was um uh dedicated to the earl of pembroke and the earl of montgomery uh and and don't forget that the earl of pembroke was the kind of um master of the masons at the time um and don't forget that kent was it kent designed it but sheamachus um carved them both and obviously the big question is why did the pembrokes want it why did the herberts want it uh they're all they're all descendants of shakespeare we can see that it's just it's disappeared that letter and um i i it's difficult to know whether it's another bit of shakespeare mythos or not um but yes the two most important of those statues of those twins i've heard someone say and it may be just ludicrous so we'll just forget it but someone said if you draw a line from the westminster abbey statue on a map to the wilson statue to stratford-upon-avon you get a perfect equilateral triangle is that possible it doesn't mean anything anyway throw that one in and we can go too far with these things obviously that needs investigating perhaps good um so just can i just just last thing about what you said you'd like to spend more time and i'm not advertising if you are interested in spending more time um i i have uploaded now quite a lot of these thoughts and materials but it's constantly evolving so i keep just adding bolt-ons if i find something new if you go to youtube and type in my name and shakespeare you'll find at the moment 11 presentation videos some of them as short as two minutes one of them as long as 50 minutes which is this thing but this had new stuff that that doesn't so if you subscribe i'd be very happy and pleased and and every time i put something new you'll find it but there's lots more i've got to put there in the pipeline okay thank you very much alexander i'm going to draw this to a close now but there's plenty of time to move outside have a few drinks and nibbles alexander is going to stay around so if you've got more questions for him then i'm sure he's happy to answer them actually there's another coincidence i've just noticed in the middle up there it's one of my colleagues his name is ian davier oh hey look he's actually right in the middle i've noticed right in the center so um so before we end up i hope you've enjoyed this evening if you are available please come along tomorrow evening to the mark rylance event which whoops which actually is fully booked but i think there might be a waiting list if you haven't booked already on thursday we also have the final event in shakespeare week where we're asking it's not an authorship um event where we're asking whether the plays are still relevant or not and that's a a courtroom drama uh following your shakespearean court but this is courtroom drama where um professor tom betteridge on one side and i'm on the other side were arguing that question so if you have time that's thursday evening and i think there are one or two spaces left uh it's not as fully booked as the marker islands events but you'll be welcome to that as well this book is outside if you're interested in this book in alexander's chapter he's not really talking about this he's making his case why he believes that the earl of oxford is the author of the shakespeare plays and poems it just leaves me to say thank you ever so much for coming along and please join me now in thanking our fantastic speaker alexander ward job you

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Published: Wed Jun 06 2018