>>> LET'S BRING IN SENATOR JOE MANCHIN OF WEST VIRGINIA. >> THE WHOLE GANG IS HERE. >> I GUESS I CAN CALL YOU SENATOR. >> IT'S JOE. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT GAZA, AND SO MANY AMERICANS TRADITIONALLY SUPPORTED ISRAEL, AND MANY VOTERS, YOU KNOW VOTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY TURNING ON ISRAEL. >> WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE, I SAID, FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU AGREE THAT HAMAS IS A TERRORISTS ORGANIZATION? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION OF A TERRORISTS ORGANIZATION? USUALLY WHEN CIVILIZED COUNTRY HAVE A DISAGREEMENT AND GO TO WAR, AND TERRORISTS ORGANIZATIONS USE THEIR PEOPLE TO PROTECT THEIR WAR MACHINES. THIS IS A HORRIBLE SITUATION. THERE ARE WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THE CARNAGE, AND THAT'S THE MODE OF OPERATION. IT'S UNREASONABLE FOR THEM, HAMAS, TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A CEASE-FIRE UNTIL THEY DO SOMETHING AND COME TO THE TABLE. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE NOT WANTED THAT TWO-STATE SOLUTION. THEY NEVER CAME TO THE TABLE TO RECOGNIZE A TWO-STATE SOLUTION. >> HOW IMPORTANT IS A TWO-STATE SOLUTION, WHEN YOU HAVE HAMAS WHO SPENT SINCE 2005 WORKING AGAINST IT, SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN IN POWER, KILLING PEOPLE THAT TALKED ABOUT WORKING WITH JEWS, AND YOU HAVE NETANYAHU FIGHTING AGAINST THE TWO STATE SOLUTION. >> IF OHIO DECLARED WAR ON WEST VIRGINIA, AND THEY CONTINUED TO ATTACK US, WHAT WOULD YOU DO AND DEFEND THAT? WHAT WOULD CAUSE THEM TO STOP? YOU START THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING IN YOUR BACKYARD, HOW YOU WOULD SETTLE THAT. IF A PERSON HAS A COMMITMENT THEY WILL DESTROY YOU NO MATTER WHERE OR WHEN, THAT'S THEIR DETERMINATION, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION. IF YOU HAVE A TERRORISTS ORGANIZATION THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH A CIVILIZED SOCIETY, IT DOESN'T WORK UNLESS THE ARAB WORD STEPS FORWARD -- THEY HAVE TO STEP FORWARD. WE CAN'T BRING THEM A PEACE, BUT WE CAN NEGOTIATE IT, AND WE CAN'T MAINTAIN IT. >> YESTERDAY IT WAS EVERYBODY VERSUS MIKE JOHNSON, AND NOBODY KNOWS WHAT HE WANTS EXCEPT NOT TO UPSET DONALD TRUMP, AND CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT MIKE JOHNSON AND DONALD TRUMP AND THOSE OPPOSING AID TO UKRAINE ARE INFLICTING ON NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE BUT ON WESTERN DEMOCRACY RIGHT NOW? >> WE'RE TALKING A LITTLE BIT BEFORE YOU CAME BACK ON AND DISCUSSING THIS MOMENT IN TIME. EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL -- EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL HAS THAT MOMENT IN TIME WHEN YOU ASK YOURSELF, WHAT IS MY PURPOSE OF SERVING? IS IT TO PROTECT MYSELF TO TO STAND TALL. I HAVE COME TO THAT CONCLUSION, WE NEED TERM LIMITS. IT'S THE ONLY WAY WE WILL GET ANY TYPE OF PERFORMANCE. I WAS DOING A TOWN HALL AND A LOVELY ELDERLY LADY STOOD UP AND SHE SAID, JOE, THINK ABOUT IT, IF WE HAD TERM LIMITS, MAYBE WE GET ONE GOOD TERM OUT OF YOU. I WAS SOLD. I HAD NO COMEBACK OR DEFENSE. SHE WAS CORRECT. AND MORE CORRECT TODAY. BUT MIKE JOHNSON, IT'S A MOMENT IN TIME AND MOMENT IN HISTORY FOR HIM TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION, WHAT IS MY PURPOSE? WHY DID I COME HERE? MIKE, YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO RISE UP AND BE A HERO IN THE HISTORY. IF THEY GET RID OF THE FILIBUSTER IN THE SENATE, WE WILL LOSE DEMOCRACY AS WE KNOW IT, BECAUSE IT FORCES US TO GIVE THEM A PIECE OF LEGISLATION, AND IN THE HOUSE, WE ALWAYS GET SOMETHING HOT. PAUL RYAN AND I WERE TALKING THE OTHER NIGHT. IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE FIVE OR TEN PEOPLE THAT WILL BE THE TAIL WAGGING THE DOG, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD WANT TO BE THE HEAD OF THE DOG. >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE LILAC TIE, BUT YOU LOOK RELAXED. YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION A WHILE AGO WHEN YOU WERE PLANNING WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR FUTURE, AND YOU POINTED TO THE UNPOPULARITY OF THE PRESIDENT AND OF DONALD TRUMP AND YOU WERE WEIGHING WHETHER OR NOT TO RUN ON A THIRD-PARTY TICKET. YOU DECIDED NOT TO. WHAT MADE YOU MAKE THE DECISION? >> I LOVE MY COUNTRY TOO MUCH TO VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP, AND I HAVE KNOWN JOE BIDEN FOR A LONG TIME AND I THINK JOE HAS BEEN PUSHED TOO FAR TO THE LEFT, AND I AM TRYING TO MOVE HIM BACK TO CENTER LEFT. MY DAUGHTER STARTED A FIVE 501C4. IF THERE IS ANYONE SIDE, THERE'S NOT A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICAN SIDE WHEN IT COMES TO DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION. I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION I NEVER WANTED TO -- I WILL NEVER PUT MYSELF TO BE A SPOILER OR A HANDICAP FOR ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. I DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME WHERE I COULD SEE A DIFFERENCE TO TRY AND UNITE THE COUNTRY OTHER THAN BEING A SPOILER, OR BEING ACCUSED OF THROWING IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I GOT TO THE POINT WHERE I HAD TO COME TO THAT CONCLUSION. >> THE INCUMBENT IS FACING SOMEBODY WHO HAS FELONY COUNTS AND TALKS ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH THE CONSTITUTION. IF YOU WERE IN CHARGE OF BIDEN'S CAMPAIGN, WHAT WOULD YOU TELL HIM TO DO? >> TAKE CREDIT TO WHAT WE HAVE. WE DID THE IRA BILL AND WROTE THAT BILL. THE IRA BILL WAS DONE FOR A COUPLE REASONS. ENERGY SECURITY. WE COULDN'T HELP OUR ALLIES. WE ARE PRODUCING MORE OIL AND GAS THAN BEFORE AND HE CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE HE'S AFRAID OF LOSING THE FAR LEFT. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET CREDIT IF YOU DON'T LOOK AT THE WHOLE BALL OF WAX. WE ARE PRODUCING MORE ENERGY TODAY AND MORE LNG TO HELP OUR FOREIGN FRIENDS GO BACK TO OIL. ENERGY IS WHAT IT TAKES TO HAVE A SECURE COUNTRY. IF YOU ARE NOT ENERGY DEPENDANT, YOU HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS. YOU NEVER HEARD THE WHITE HOUSE TALK ABOUT IT, WE PAID DOWN $230 BILLION OF DEBT OUT OF A $690 BILLION BAIL, 230 WENT TOWARDS DEBT. NEVER TALKED ABOUT THAT. DEBT IS RUNAWAY. WE HAVE TO GET CONTROL OF THE FINANCES. IN WEST VIRGINIA, THE $35 FOR INSULIN HELPED TREMENDOUSLY. SOME OF THESE DRUGS THEY ARE BUYING ARE 10, 15, $20,000 A YEAR. THIS IS TREMENDOUS. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING. IT'S A HOMOGENEOUS TYPE OF APPROACH HE TOOK. THE PRESIDENT IS NOT GETTING CREDIT. WE WORKED WITH HIM AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS WITH THE BILL. BUT I CAN'T GET THEM AND THEIR CLIMATE PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON AND IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THEY ARE PUSHING THEM SO FAR LEFT, IT'S HARD TO GET HIM TO TAKE CREDIT. PEOPLE THAT JUST WANT TO LEAVE IT IN THE GROUND, AND THEY DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE PRODUCING ENERGY. AND YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP SAYING JOE BIDEN'S ADMINISTRATION IS DESTROYING THE ENERGY IN OUR COUNTRY. WE ARE PRODUCING MORE ENERGY THAN HIM OR ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE. >> RIGHT. >> AND WE ARE DOING IT BETTER. >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THAT'S HOW DEEPLY DYSFUNCTIONAL WASHINGTON IS. YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT HAVING REPUBLICANS, LIKE JAMES LANGFORD, YOU KNOW JAMES -- >> HE'S THE BEST OF THE BEST. >> HE'S PHENOMENAL. ONE OF THE MOST CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE FROM OKLAHOMA. HE DOES A BILL WORKING WITH DEMOCRATS, THE WHITE HOUSE, EVERYBODY, TOUGHEST BORDER SECURITY BILL EVER. >> BEST I HAVE EVER SEEN. >> AND THE HOUSE KILLS IT. REPUBLICAN KILLS IT. >> THEY LOOKED FOR SOMETHING. THE PERFECT ENEMY IS OF GOOD, AND IF YOU WANT TO RETIRE FROM WASHINGTON AND HAVE PEOPLE TAKE YOU AROUND AND TAKE CARE OF YOU, JUST VOTE NO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN NOT BEING GOOD ENOUGH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHAT IT COULD HAVE DONE. YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHAT IT WOULD HAVE DONE. THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. THE PERFECT IS ALWAYS THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD. I WAS DOUBTFUL THAT MY DEAR FRIEND JAMES COULD GET TO WHERE HE COULD AGREE ON SOMETHING. HE DID A HECK OF A JOB. I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT BORDER ASYLUM. I SAID THIS, IF PRESIDENT BIDEN AND HIS ADMINISTRATION IS GUILTY AS CHARGED FOR THE BORDER THAT WE HAVE TODAY, HE DID THAT IN A HUMANITARIAN WAY THINKING THE WORLD IS INFLUX COMING OUT OF A PANDEMIC, AND THERE'S POOR PEOPLE BEING DISPLACED AROUND THE WORLD, LET'S HELP SOME. THAT WAS HIS REASONING THAT I WAS TOLD. WITH THAT -- I UNDERSTAND THAT. IT CAME A TIME WHEN WE GOT OVERRUN. HE'S DOING IT NOW. WELL, SOME SAY IT'S BECAUSE OF THE POLITICS. NO. THE REAL CRIME -- I WAS NEVER MORE DISALLOW SUND, AND KATTY, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE THINGS, WHERE I SAW MY FRIENDS DEMANDING WE HAVE BORDER SECURE BEFORE WE GIVE AID TO ANYBODY, AND I WAS ONE OF THE DEMOCRATS THAT SAID WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN BORDER, AND THEN BY THE THIRD DAY MANY COULD NOT VOTE FOR IT AND WALKED AWAY. I WAS NEVER MORE DISSOLUTIONED AND DECIDED WE COULDN'T FIX ANYTHING IN WASHINGTON. FOR DONALD TRUMP TO SAY I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD FIX IT NOW BECAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR MY CAMPAIGN, AND THAT'S WORSE THAN NOT TRYING TO BE HUMANITARIAN. THERE'S BLAME ALL AROUND. WE ARE THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT CAN REALLY CREW UP ROYALLY AND COME BACK AND FIX IT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PEOPLE AND THE RULE OF LAW AND THE JUDICIARY SYSTEM WE HAVE AND GOOD PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THI
