Scientist vs Mystic | A Conversation about Cosmos, Brain and Reality | David Eagleman and Sadhguru

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Let's study how the brain works SAR reality the reason we know that this has something to do with the brain is because of the brain is damaged even in small ways your reality changes and if you take drugs or alcohol or other sorts of things viruses in the system your reality can change so I'm interested in finding where our perspectives overlap in this because your interest is one of your interest is also understanding reality how we perceive it how it's individualized to us so can you tell us about that that is that his existence that time and that is you or me that individual human beings we have not seen the world we know it's only the way its projected in the firmament of our minds when we say mind in english language mind is just one word and supposed to encompass everything but in the yoga terminology we have 16 parts of the mind which have distinct functions and there are a whole lot of practices and processes through which one takes charge of this 16 dimensions of mind, this 16 for simple understanding can be brought into four sections the first dimension of the mind is we are referring to as buddhi(a hindi word meaning wit) are what is generally considered intellect I think modern societies particularly modern education has become too overly focused on the intellect we got too mesmerized by our own logic and we're invested too much in human intellect leaving out the other dimensions of intelligence that functions within us. the second dimension of the mind we call it ahankara which in english language what is the identity you have taken your intellect is always a slave of your identity what you identified with it is only around that it functions simple things people are identified the things that they're not even seen and huge emotions a day of their life is guided by those things for example all of us belong to some nation today just a moment you believe I belong to this nation the emblem of the nation the flag of the nation the anthem of the nation brings genuine emotion is there nobody is pretending it's real it's real because people are willing to die for it it has to be all but it's just an identity you could just switch it anytime you can move to another country and take that on and it becomes yours so the moment you identify yourself with something your intellect is completely always protecting this identity and working around this identity the next dimension of the mind is called as manas so this is not just in one place this is the entire body manas is a huge silo of memory, when I say you siloed memory whatever memory you may have in your brain and your brain fan whatever memory you may have in your brain your body has a trillion times more memory than that you definitely don't remember how your great-great-great great-great-grandfather look like but his nose is sitting on your face right now it remembers how your forefathers looked at million years ago your body still remembers has not forgotten definitely is not the capability of your brain so in terms of memory the manas is phenomenal and it's right across the body every cell in the body carries enormous memory - memory to a point from the origin of life on this planet and beyond all that memory is carried in this body so this is manas if there is no memory intellect would be different it's like a car without gas because there is memory intellect is on this memory flows through the hand of identity and whatever is the identity the memory takes on that color accordingly and then it place up in the intellect and the intellect functions the fourth dim ension of the mind is called chitta, chitta means it's pure intelligence unsullied by memory there is absolutely no memory free of memories just pure intelligence when we sip your intelligence - intelligence, intelligence, intelligence - everything is smacked with phenomenal intelligence beyond what our quite phenomenal brain cannot perceive so this is a dimension of intelligence within us which is the basis of our creation in a way if you need a piece of bread over the afternoon it becomes a human being because this intelligence exist within your mean so if you touch this intelligence you don't have to think what you want you don't have to seek what you want if you touch this intelligence everything that you wish to know is yours is just you have to just direct your focus and it's all there because there is a dimension of chitta, every human being might have accidentally at some point touched this which makes suddenly one spark of magic in somebody's life this is because they've touched this dimension of intelligence and consciously, now the question is only about how get there consciously and stay there so these aspects of the mind are not entirely located here, it is right across the system. I kind of think it is the endeavor of science to take the intelligence all around us and across our system and try to understand the principles of that it's a way of going out and trying to understand the blueprints around us in a way that can be made conscious as something that we can make understandable when you say understandable that means we can put it into the parameter of logic what what if there is a dimension of intelligence within you which does not fit into the parameters of logic trying to fit everything into the parameters of logic means the surface intelligence which is the intellect which is our survival mode if you don't have an intellect we wouldn't survive in this world what is a survival instrument via trying to put all dimensions of life through that and it has to pass through that sieve that we can completely secure the process I take the point that there may be limits to our intellect but I don't know where those limits are and I don't know how to guarantee that there our borders there beyond which there iss something else the science has done incredible things in the last hundred years no question our life is the way it is today the comfort and convenience that all of us are enjoying is essentially because of the outcome of the scientific endeavor on the planet there's no question about that but at the same time the limitation of science is we're trying to touch a dimension which is beyond physical nature with the physical stick something that you and I had talked about before is this issue of time perception it's one of the things I study in my lab and I was mentioning to you that I think it's one of the most stubborn psychological filters we have by which I mean time seems to be a construction of the brain because we can easily manipulate it in the laboratory so you think something lasted longer or shorter something happened in a different order and there are many physicists like Einstein who were very clear on this point that time doesn't actually exist but we're trapped inside of it. In the yogic way of seeing things we just see life as a dance of time and energy it's a certain amount of time and a certain amount of energy actually in the local languages the expression for that is very beautiful with a column aeterna that means "his time got over" in normal language when we say somebody passed away we don't say passed away as if we were saying it in English we say his time got over actually that's all that happened somebody's time going over now to put this time and energy together in a proper - weave it together well - if your time gets over when your still energy is vibrant, we said is an untimely death your energy gets over when you're still time is on it's a vegetative life to the art of putting this time and energy together so that both of them play together dance together well is a successful life so when we said time there are many many things we can do with energy but our time is ticking off at the same pace we may think many things we came to this talk we went to the cinema we went to the University went here and there but as far as physical bodies concerned it's going straight to the grave because it is keeping time, your brain can be easily fooled but body is properly keeping time never you can fool this body all the time keeping time because time is a consequence time is not a factor by itself time is a consequence of psychical moments in the physical reality we know time if the Earth spins once they say it's a day if the moon goes around us we say it's a month if the Earth goes around the Sun it's a year our idea of time has come essentially because of the cyclical moments of everything that's physical around us this is the nature of physicality physicality is essentially cycle whether it's atomic or cosmic everything is cyclical the moment you're identified with physical nature time is a big factor if you'd associate yourself with your physical nature if you sit here and if you have a little space between you and your physical body because what you call as my body is an accumulator to process it is something that you accumulated is just a piece of the planet if a little space comes between you and your body certainly time is not a factor to such an extent we have any number of people this may be very difficult for a Western audience to digest but i have seen Yogi's who have not moved from the place they were sitting for over six months seven months just in the same place by any normal standards your body should not survive that but once the sit-down they won't know just like that not moving at all because once you distance yourself from your physiological process time is not a factor right now you're sitting here it's not your watch which is keeping the time it's your body if i make you sit here for three hours your body cells says it's enough but suppose you did not have a body we're going two to three thousand years what's the problem so essentially because of your routing in your physical platform which you call as the body which you build what a period of time from the accumulations that you gather from this planet that is the basis of experience of time if you distance yourself from that there is no consequence to of time on you what is the you that can be separated from the physical is it the fact that you gathered you about body or a period of time it's a fact that this body gathered together over a period of time and it may be that I emerged as a consequence of that this feeling of I as opposed to me doing the gathering so the data that you and me have gathered however big women think it is in terms of the cosmos it's minuscule it's nothing it's really not of any consequence so from this miniscule of data that we have gathered we're generating some tart which could be useful in making our lives it could be useful in creating a few things that could be useful fundamentally for our survival and enhancement for survival process always but it doesn't give you access to life human intellect and human intelligence has broken out of a certain bond which was there for every of the creature that they could function like an automated machine through certain instinctual process what has happened with the human being with the process of evolution is he's a human being has broken out of that instinctive process and there's an intelligence which has to function consciously but functioning consciously means every moment of life is an exploration which is too scary for a whole lot of people so the best thing is identified with something which gives you some sense of what you are but this some sense of what you are which you took on big based on your social and cultural backgrounds what you took on make sense for your survival process but not for exploratory process it doesn't explore life it keeps you saying it's a good release it keeps you it it helps you to sleep well in the night but it doesn't awaken a different dimension of knowing it doesn't make awaken the possibility of exploring dimensions which are not yet within you so you this has to happen the most important thing is to be able to sit here not identified with anything when i said it's so hard to remain uneducated in this world because everybody's busy wanting to teach you something this is all I've been in my life to remain uneducated not to be influenced by parents by family by religion that's happening around you culture that's happening around your education that people are forcing on you just to be the way creation intended you to be simply see I'm not to fit into the University value but I'm okay you know just simply the way you were born not tangling up your intelligence to any particular thing either your nationality or religion or race or creed or your family or any kind of event your gender whatever simply to be able to view your life just as a piece of life if one does this then you will see perception will explode in ways that they are not imagined possible so from my perspective there's this issue of brain plasticity which is to say that we absorb what's coming in and i think it's exactly consistent with your description about who you are in the end is is an accumulation of all these perceptions there's also the case that we are creatures that go around and vacuum in the our culture's we speak this particular language and we we are males and we dress in certain ways it's hard to avoid that now i'm guessing you're going to say but you don't identify with it is that is that right so what is a social requirement is one thing identity is required for survival process to manage day-to-day situations but it is not an expertly process because the intention of science is to know the technology is a fallout unfortunately in this world nobody would find science if it did not spin technology which is a very unfortunate thing because human intelligence wants to know it need not be useful simply wants to know so technology is useful and what is useful today tomorrow you may realize is really destructive it may take away our life so technology is something that we have to judiciously do science must happen rampantly mysticism must happen rapidly because this is simply exploratory this is not about seeing how to make it useful but today modern science has become a slave of technology if you don't make it useful nobody's going to find you anymore you simply say I wonder no nobody interested in this how can it be turned into an enterprise that's all they're interested in this is a wrong way to approach science because science is a this is a fundamental need within a human being wanting to know it's the nature of human intelligence it is not something that somebody made up it's not a bunch of scientists who made this up this is a fundamental need within human intelligence wanting to know it is the nature of human being if you see something new he wanted to know what this is with a small ting a big thing to continuously sustain that wonder that sense of wanting to know is the basis of science and mysticism it is only the fundamental approach is different in the sense science is trying to achieve everything through physical needs by taking physical quantities going by the physical laws if you go through physical means you will hit the glass wall somewhere i think in my perception i'm not a scientist I don't know all of it but in my perception i think the physicists are near the glass wall they might not have hit their near that's the unknown question right we have no guarantee how far will get in science but by glass wall i assume you mean we we run to a place where you can wear the president faculties will not be good enough the present present faculties of five senses and the brain will not be good enough that we hit a long time ago so for example things like quantum physics quantum physics you can't understand it but you can write it down and equations that make predictions accurate out to 14 decimal places so we think it's pretty good we can build new things out of it that we we can see things much smaller and much farther away than we ever could before we understand the wonderfulness of the subtleness of everything around as much better than we did before but the actual physics a human can't understand we just make tools to to get where we need to go with it so we've already hit that point and certainly it's the case with the human brain which is made up of a almost a hundred billion specialized cells with thousands of trillions of connections between them and fs I like the way of saying it with let the passion that like some people are talking about food or somewhere brainy instead of you need on the brain yeah but the reason it's easy to be passionate about it is because it's a system of such unimaginable complexity that it bankrupts the language it-it-it we have no way that a human could perceive a system of that complexity and yet each of us has it you know this is 310 organ that were carrying around but we've already hit that point. a long time ago in science we realize we can make new strains of mathematics we can make computer simulations but we'll never get it all never get the brain all I can do is take the you know the way the way that you explain the 16 aspects of the mind you simplified it down to four I you know best i can do is take the thousands of trillions of connections in the brain and make some cartoony model that my impoverished intellect can sort of get its get a sense of the building our simulator branch emulator and no yeah and their markets busy building this simulated brain all that is fine we're looking at the physical mechanics of what's happening the complexity of what's happening is beyond the physical mechanics the looking at the physical mechanics of the brain the neurons function and the electric the thing that's happening the waves that are flowing whatever things happening is fantastic because of the complexity of what it is the sophistication of what it is it is the gadget no question ok this human get it is their gadget on the planet of what we have seen this is the most sophisticated gadget on the planet there's no question about that keeping that aside but even this brain can be manufactured with something as simple as a piece of a carrot or bread so I'm saying there is an intelligence here which can create a brain why are you ignoring that intelligence i think the heart of sciences to try to understand what that is what i mean by that is you know so we we have different approaches and science get there but studying the genetic code and understanding how the heck with 27 thousand genes can you unpack a human being because whatever the whatever the truth is of what's happening happening spiritually if there's a separate you are what we know for sure is that you can unpack a human being from from these four letters of amino acids and these base pairs that make make these proteins and and somehow that all gets unpacked and on this kind of questions have always been on human mind it happened almost 15,000 years ago "Adi" yogi that means the first yogi he had seven disciples these seven disciples are full of questions they are are some of them are astronomers some of them are serious mathematicians things like they have a million questions after sometime the Adi Yogi is bored with their questions because whatever they ask it's just a product of that intellect they're not able to ask a question beyond that so they asked what is the nature of this your cosmos where does it begin read it then how big is it he's just bored he says you're you're cosmos I can pack it into your [a] mustard seed the entire cosmos I can pack it into your mustard seed and they were flabbergasted by this then this it what is it made off you can pack such a huge cosmos which we do we can't even imagine where it begins and where it ends into mustard is what is it made off he was completely bored he will not want to the world he simply said like this fire elements just this violence the entire universe is a play of these five elements if you master the five elements you have a key to every aspect of creation if you don't master the fire element if you approach it from outside as you approach it it will take on a trillion new form as you try to study it it can take on a trillion new forms as you're looking at it because that is what it is capable of just five things five million things would be difficult, five I'm sure you and me can study isn't it? at least I'm capable of five you're talking in millions and some billions but I am [talking about] five. Are you going to tell me what the five are? These five elements it's called earth fire water air space the five things everything is just within this everything that you call as physical creation has substance of some kind this is earth and all of it that's in movement that's called air, all of it [that] ascribes to some temperature that is fire and in everything that is water which is the cohesiveness if there is no water, there's no cohesiveness is in anything and all of it is held together by what we call it akash here we're calling it a space in english language it doesn't really describe what we are saying but it's called akash maybe a more closer word in english language would be ether etheric space or whatever they calling it so these are the 5 things whether an atom or a subatomic particle everything is made of these five things so you don't have to study the trillions of things which are manifestations of this five, if you understand these five things if you have grasped all these five things then everything becomes accessible to the fundamental the most basic process unfortunately the word yoga controls completely wrong images in America the most fundamental aspect of yoga is called "buddha shuddhi" this means cleansing of the elements so that you can feel them separately in your own system this very body is 72% water and 12% earth 6% air 4% fire and remaining is space if you take charge of these things what you need to know everything that his life is here because modern physicists are saying as you sit here every subatomic particle is in communication with the rest of the cosmos if it is so you just have to become alive to it you just have to become receptive to it whether it is the smallest thing of the biggest thing everything the fundamental design is same it is only the complexity and sophistication which is improving between an amoeba and you the fundamental design is same it is much more complex and sophisticated but essentially life making design is saying so if it is so the most fundamental materials which make this life and every other physical aspect of what we see in this creation if we know the ingredients and how they happen then you have a key to every aspect of life but if you try to study the creation itself as you study they will multiply into billions and trillions. It seems it might depend what your goal is so if you want to create a drug for cancer or build a helicopter you need to do something with those five elements.. so it's uh not about exploration it's about utility what is the use of life let me ask you a question. I would I would love to know I've wanted that question and i get it that science science isn't getting me there i mean i don't have been in science my whole out of life but i don't know i get much more towards that question when i read literature which was my first love before i go into science so so a I I take the point that science doesn't help me on that front at all what would you say I've wondered what the point is! No no when a.. when when we're looking at everything as it right now there's an unfortunate reality which is doesn't agree with my aesthetics of life right now science has moved from an exploratory process to an exploitative process if you see an atom how to use it if you see a bacteria how to use it if you see an elephant how to use it if you use a whale how to use it of course the next thing is you see a human being how to use them this is what it's going everything how to use it this is not what life is about you may get to know you how to use every damn thing but still life won't get any better if you know how to keep this one life will get better believe me if you just know how to sit here blissed-out life will get better. I see that point. Let me ask you this I'm trying to understand this issue about knowing the the unslakable thirst for knowledge that humans have means that there's this ratcheting up each generation so it's not that I'm do it is of course the case that I'm limited in my thoughts to the impressions that I've had but I have a much bigger fire hose of impressions now now that can build on the scaffolding of the generations before me the things they've already figured out so that i can start at the next to the next level and move out in the next level for what towards what end that's good question i mean it's it's the toward the end of of knowing in the way that in the way that science cares about knowing so putting aside usefulness of technology just the way that scientists asks questions. If knowing is the purpose because wanting to know how much time and energy somebody's willing to dedicate to that may be questionable from person to person but everybody wants to know there's no question about that but knowing everything by intellect we will know the surface of everything but never the real source of everything all the core of everything because the only piece of the only doorway to our experience is this human mechanism you don't know the world any other way than the way this one is projecting right now within itself, yes? Agreed! I don't know how you are really i only know the way your picture is right now projecting in my brain of my system and how I am perceiving it as you know you have drilled holes into people's brains and impact something-something and a and put electric current [laughs] and whatever you've done i'm not saying you as a person i'm saying these things have been done you'll definitely know by interfering with a certain physical process the whole perception could change the world is not changed but perception has changed so in his experience everything has changed so that dimension of life is only useful for survival when I say survival everything that we're doing is survival to survive a better to enhance our survival to a better status or in a enhanced way of survival process but once you come as a human being it doesn't matter how well you survive, still it is not good enough, isn't it? it it's never going to be good enough because survival is not going to fulfill a human being it doesn't matter how big our homes get, how big our cars get, how energy efficient it get how better we dress how better we eat still will feel it's not enough because that's not the direction in which the life wants to go. So here's the part of trying to understand is this issue about knowing this issue about seeking knowledge let's say either in science or in mysticism we depend on our senses for that yes? Are you saying... I'm saying they're not dependable. Agreed! For example suppose you and me were lost in the jungle as infants, ok, if something edible came we definitely would take it and put in the mouth, we wouldn't try our ears first then nostrils and then sudden that by accident discover the mouth. No! We just know how to eat no question about that so I'm saying everything concerned with our survival is in-built, it's there, this is millions of years of memory which is there within us we know how to survive but we will know how to read we will know how to do so many other things that you become a part of our life do you remember when you're 2 or 3 years of age when they try to teach you that alphabet the damn A how complicated it was it was so complicated just to get it right you have to write hundred times to get it today with eyes closed you can do it because of a certain striving isn't it similarly anything beyond survival if we have to have it in our lives are certain striving is needed as I said striving for inward perception is something unfortunately that's been banished in modern societies because we are under thrill of technology it's a fantastic thing but you will see as time progresses as technology becomes better and better human beings will become more and more frustrated if you have not noticed this just look out and see you will see eight-year-old ten-year-old kids bored in your generation and my generation would have never seen you never knew what is damn bordome means when you eight to ten you were just bubbling with life and on but today you will see 10 year old kids are just bored with it because they're seeing the damn cosmos through their phone screens they know it all so I'm saying all this access may not lead to betterment of life in it will not comfort and convenience will come but well-being will not happen the purpose of enhancing human experience on this planet will not happen it will only entertain us intellectually big-time which it is no question I'm not saying it's wrong but I'm saying it's limited. For now yes, but.. No, I can.. do .. see right now it can happen right now with the phone I can talk to somebody in India it may technology may come I can smell the food that the cooking in India, if I am missing home they can turn on the phone and I can smell the food from India it may happen i'm not saying it's beyond that it's very much but will it happen but I can do it without a phone also look I think our science is too young still to know whether we are always going to confront a multiplication of problems or not going I don't say their problems question your modeling study thats all. yes but into sometimes people call that weenie science by which i mean once you understand the structure of the atom and so on you could measure the neutron to finer and finer resolution but who cares because that's not the fundamental problem anymore and we're still at such a young age that we don't know whether science will keep bifurcating into more and more interesting questions or whether it'll just become weighing things in it doesn't matter because now we kind of get the core of it we might not know that for a hundred years or a thousand years but I don't know for certain that we are doomed to infinite complexity it may be that we can put together a very clear what I'm saying is you're fundamentally implying sense organs I agree with that sense organ is the basis of all scientific pursuit I'm saying sense organs are not reliable instruments lost all I i just i think that the pursuit of science is really trying to surmount our sense organs is trying to figure out this Howard this amount by understanding the laws of nature that we don't know why they're true but they seem to be correct like quantum mechanics like basic Newtonian physics by you know figuring out why force equals mass times acceleration why is that true nobody knows but that's the way that people pursue trying to understand it's a way of reaching into the cosmos and figuring out that there are laws that go beyond my sense organs I've have no way to to smell or touch f equals ma and yet it seems to hold and that's the sense in which we go beyond the little peripheral devices that we come to the table with and try to understand what's past that it is true that we have to translate things into equations and equation we might write down or we might hear it for a blind person but in theory that's something that's beyond our basic sensory apparatus by this convenient i'll make it into form ok we look at creation as for different damages Tula which means the gross physical creation sucks man which means subtle that means you cannot perceive them through sense organs but if you harm your attention to a certain level then you can perceive that so this is always michigan which means an extraordinary perception or it's called began today in india in local languages the word for sciences began ok that mentions vicious got this is gunman's extraordinary perception so we are perceiving things that our sense organs could not perceive but still there in the realm of physicality and all physicality is possible through sense organs if they are harmed well if you may not be able to perceive some other creature on the planet is able to Percy so what is called a stroller is gross reality which all of us can see hear and smell what is considered a Sushma still physicality but so subtle that your eyes and ears are not good enough for that but if you're willing to pay attention you can perceive then next is called as shown here which literally translates as emptiness in English but emptiness is not the word it is it is physicality without form there is no farm all physical has defined form but Sunni means physicality has reached a place where there is no form to it it's just physical or its fundamental material of physicality the next is called as she were which means that which is not that means that which is not physical at all so existence is seen as these four component and how to perceive this four dimensions there's a whole methodology why I'm saying this is if only scientists were pursued things so far into physical reality if the pay looking attention to the most fundamental physical reality which is themselves if the turn inward rather than constantly looking through a telescope and microscope you spend equal amount of time turning inward I think something phenomenal could come out of it many scientists the reason they turn outward is as a way of of understanding what what this is all made out of which would include which would include understanding something about what a piece of life is this at let me ask you this when you say I am piece of life you are a piece of life i hear that and understand that a particular way but I'm i want to know what you mean by a piece of life because what you drink is life watching it is like what you breathe his life all this regathering and this is a piece of life which is acquired a certain level of information beat its own kind of software and consciously and its own tendencies in his own character and its own personality but that's a bubble it's like if you're blowing soap bubbles each bubble has a character if its own when the worst the most essential ingredient of the bottle was the air where is it it's all there so this is all air and the bubble is a piece of air similarly this is all life this whole cosmos is a living cosmos here i'm a piece of life and that this is life has given me this privilege that I can hold this piece of life within myself and experience it as if I'm by myself everything is a fantastic privilege but we should not abuse this and do you see that as being illusory the idea that your piece of life and I've a piece of life given that we share adams and when I breathing out your breathing in and so on were exchanging Adams to you do you do you see that is an illusion that there is a you and me or is that are we all the same life see the thing is right now and all these apps have come and different kinds of software some cum so this is easy to understand today because people are using this thing all as if their life ok they're alive and they're only because a certain amount of information has been calibrated in a certain way to do certain things and it's almost alive i think most people have a better relationship engine with her what's happened within with your family ok yes people i was so engaged with it because it has a character of the job and it's even predicting what's the next word will type which are your family cannot do your friends cannot do probably so this is just like that it is accumulated a certain amount of information this was-- life that's available around it to be formed a bubble this is my bubble that's your google what is the content of the bubble it's the same stuff but what is the surface of the bubble myself is entirely different from yours and it has its own characteristic it has its own flavor it has an own tendencies so this is an unconscious software that everyone has a building with phenomenal amount of information that we're acquiring as we sit here the five senses at a gathering of phenomenal amount of the amount of information that one gathers in 24 hours of time if you spend a million years you can't process it that much information we are gathering this is what traditionally real effort to s karma is all twisted out in America I'm seeing the world cup my everybody's calling themselves carmena know people named karma I heard some people named the cover so we will suppose we see right now the we don't know how the outside with also is quite good i think in the evening at least their conditioning is good everything is nice you're fine everyone nobody is troubling you here but you're sitting here miserably then we say ìoh his karma what it means is the word karma literally translates as action are doing so we say who you are right now is entirely your doing the way you have structured yourself knowingly or unknowingly the kind of woman that you were born in is also an unconscious choice because you created a certain of tendencies that's where your moon in search of that kind of tendencies what what facility takes that so this software is building up all the time and consciously so only thing that I want to say now he's whatever you can do unconsciously if you are willing if you are willing you can do the same thing conscious if you can build so much software unconsciously if you're willing you can restructure that consciously i can show you millions of people who research themselves in a matter of a few weeks i can show you few people where the very sort of the face will change in 24 hours time simply because they start a certain process and darling their whole personality is altered within a matter of one or two days of doing certain processes because distancing yourself from your genetic memory there's an entire process most Indians have forgotten either way it was there in every family whenever somebody dies or even when your bed into the life there are processes how to distance yourself from your genetic memory because this is very important if you want to be a unique fresh bubble of your own then you must distance you're from yourself from genetic memory otherwise you'll see 818 you're a great rebel you don't want to be like your parents and this and that you see when you're 45 suddenly you start walking like your father talking like your mother stuff is happening to you you don't know because I don't underestimate these people yeah they won't give up so easily your grandfather may be dead and gone but the guy wants to live through you so the thing is to distance yourself from the genetic memory so that you don't become a cycle pattern of representativeness you want to be a fresh life that means you have to recalibrate your software consciously anything that you can do unconsciously you can all go also to consciously if the necessaries driving is there what does it take for people to have that level of striving depends how far they want to go you feel if somebody comes in ask if i want to know the entire not the new physics what has happened till now if I want to know how long does it take for fresh student comes in ask is there a time you can say not you can say okay start on a science undergrad let's see if he does undergrad and he thinks he's beginning to know everything then you start telling him this is not it you got to do your masters if it does that you would say then you have to do your PhD after your PhD your declared that you don't know much that's right that's the path of wisdom experience is the most the most basic thing that one can do how long does it take means the most fundamental thing is first of all to know that there is another dimension of faculty within us that there's another way of perceiving things that there is something beyond not as a belief not as a conclusion not as something that is said in some scripture always some guru or some teacher or whatever but by yourself to know beyond this body beyond this mind there is something within you this experience if this has to happen I would say if you are willing to dedicate just 30 hours of absolutely focused I'm if you give me in 30 hours time we can bring you to a place we can give you a tool through which you know something beyond your physicality what that thing is you don't have to jump into conclusion but something you beyond your physical nature will become alive within you and you know there is something beyond physical nature if that is enough inspiration for you to continue your pursuit then how long it will take the entire pursuit you cannot say individual mrs. home so what would it be like if you could get beyond the physical trappings you know we started a school a few years ago and this eight-year-old boy I just walk into the school's eight-year-old boy comes and our single is life really is the dream i lost the 80 you have to come in the truth you know I said life is a dream what dream is true also a little your legs only but that's affect life is a dream the way it's happening within your right now it's a dream but the dream is true in your experience but this dream you can make it whichever way you want whichever way you want and we can make this into a fantastic dream for ourselves and for everybody on this planet trance and technology has done wonderful things for us to enhance their dreams but I want the scientist to meditate thank you very much thank you
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Channel: Cosmology Today™
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Published: Tue Aug 16 2016
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