Sammy the Bull: John Gotti Sent Me to Kill Mafia Boss Chin Gigante so John Could Kill Me (Part 27)

well 1990 december 11th uh the raven night social club gets raided you get arrested along with gotti and lecacio lucasio la casio you end up pleading guilty to a superseding racketeering charge uh gotti gets charged with five murders castellano bellotti uh de bernardo molito and de bono along with conspiracy uh to murder vestola along with loan sharking illegal gambling obstruction of justice bribery tax evasion according to all the fbi tapes everyone was denied bail um and i guess the attorneys were disqualified from actually working with you and gotti because they were saying the attorneys were part of the evidence so and then these tapes start to come out when you hear john gotti badmouthing you when you first heard those tapes what'd you think i knew he was betraying me behind my back i know exactly half the [ __ ] he's talking about didn't make sense and wasn't true then i find out later on after that that there's a plot he was looking to take me out towards the end so now all those lies and all that [ __ ] is making sense so what is he going to use you can't kill your underboss you can't kill a major guy in the family who's bringing in a ton of money doing work doing everything he's supposed to do and you kill him if you do that as a boss it backfires because everybody looks at you and says oh my god if he could kill him he didn't kill any of us and and the thing reverses on you everybody becomes a little skeptical of you a little afraid of you a little it's not a good thing so he's making up all these stories about what i did and now i find out the other parts of it now i find out parts of it where he was gonna send me on the lamb and before he was gonna send me on the lamb he gave me an order to kill chen a boss of another family but his plot was really really great he told me to kill chen he says he's behind this frankie the chico thing i loved frankie you're talking about uh chinchigante yeah so if i would have killed chen on his orders now i'd come back in how'd you make out i got him last night he would have killed me immediately now he has the answer he was doing all these things killing people taking over things he lost control of him i loved him like a brother but he lost his mind and then he came to me he killed chin i had to kill him so it's understandable to everybody now number one number two he goes to the genovese people and he tells them he came in and told me that he whacked him he wanted to take over and i i had to take him out aha so the plan was to essentially blame all the murders on you and then kill you and then he walks away free that's what he was going to do with the case now like i said you don't you don't have to call my rat but that's a rap move when you're on trial these are both fighting for the same thing now if you're going to back up the government's tapes your tapes that the government has and you're going to back up all these things and you're going to tell me right to my [ __ ] face you're going to be found guilty and that sets me free well it's not a rap move it's a rat move it's not a rat but it's a rat move who the [ __ ] does that well was it because of that you ultimately decided to cooperate yeah and this was in 1991 yes we got pinched in what november no december of 90. i cooperated november of 91 right almost a full year later yeah november 13th 1991 when you agreed to testify right they gave you a plea deal for your cooperation yeah was it uh 20 years 20 year cap okay that doesn't sound like that great of a plea deal on the surface 20 years i know it's a cap but still it's up to the judge's discretion at the end of the day right yeah why would you take a 20-year plea deal because i'm facing um you didn't read my charges i'm faced with a three-four murders conspiracy to murders and a whole bunch other [ __ ] too so i'm facing a life without parole i'll never see the street got it so i go in when i'm you're gonna count them when i went in i was like let's say 40 uh in 90 or almost 41. so 20 years i can get out 60 61 is even when it's 20 years ends there's good time so i'm going to do like 17. right so it's not the end of the world yet it's not it's still a lot of time but

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Published: Tue Jul 19 2022