Genesis 26:18 tells us "Isaac dug again the
wells of Abraham." In every generation,
there have been revivals, massive moves of the Spirit that changed the
course of history. In every revival, there
were believers like you who chose
to answer the call to become the one in
their generation. Discover your call
to be the one in your generation. We are about
to take you face to face
with history. You can't go very far
in your revival research without running
into this guy. Roberts Liardon,
"God's Generals". Listen, if you want a full
encompassing overview of revivals
and through history, look into that. Look into his books,
"God's Generals" but I gotta treat for you today
because with me on the set is Roberts Liardon. Roberts. - Good to be here. - Thank you, thank you. Tell me as we're
reaching across this, what is this you've
brought with you? - Well that's a statue
that I did of Smith
Wigglesworth that I did years
ago to raise money for our missions
department and
so I had a few extra ones left so
I thought I'd bring you and the set to have a little
statue of Smith Wigglesworth. Oh, thank you, thank you. - That's the way he was
towards the end of his life. He was probably in his
70s in that time period. So that's his New
Testament... - Thank you, thank you
very much. - He would carry... - Yea, - so that's who he is. - I've got a lot of
Roberts' stuff here so you can see, there is a
plethora of literature here for you to look at and read
so, take a look at it but I want to talk
to you today, without getting into
too much detail in the beginning...I want to
talk about just revival in the history from all your
research that you've done because we
are of like breed here. - Okay. What is it that you see is
the common denominator to where
God moved in one of these great revivals? What is the common
denominator? - There would be several. The first would be God uses
the unlikely candidate to be the leader or
the spark of it. Everybody I've studied should not have been
who they became. There were reasons for
their misconduct in their personal life or
not the right education or they didn't have the
right spiritual heritage and for some reason, God and them connected
at the right moment and they were used to spark
that particular thrust of God or the importance
of God on that moment so... - Like who? - The guy right here. Smith Wigglesworth
would be one. Wigglesworth. He
couldn't even talk. I mean, you want to talk
about Smith, he couldn't talk. His first part of his ministry
was Salvation Army children's pastor taking the
horse down the street and all the little kids
would get a ride to church and a ride home that's
how Smith started. Most of us don't realize
that the Wigglesworth we know began after his wife's death
when he was 57 years old and so when we talk
about Wigglesworth, it's after
50 so everybody watching that think I'm 50 and
over...Well Smith became the great Wigglesworth
at 50 after his wife died so those are some
of the basic ones. General Booth, the
Salvation Army. Another gentleman that
had just got the same, for worst terms kicked
out of the Methodist Church because he was getting
too many people saved and was disturbing that
district areas churches stability and he had to quit bringing the lost into
the church and he got kicked out because he
wouldn't do it and he ran down the street and
bumped into the tent meeting that began
the Salvation Army. So these are the most
unlikely people usually at a place where
the low point. Ms. Kuhlman at the worst
moment of her life is when God gave her the
great healing mantle. - What was the worst
moment of her life? - Well she had a great
ministry and she married the wrong man
and it was ended in divorce and she walked to a dead end
street in California and she said to Jesus,
"I have nothing. All I have left is that
I have my love for You. If You can use that,
use that please" and that was the moment
God does, "Yea. I have an anointing. I've been trying to get it in a
year and I've asked 3 guys and they've said, "No".
Would you do it?" And she said, "Yes". And that became the beginning
of Kathryn Kuhlman. I want His smile. I want His favor. I want Him to fold me
close to His heart. I want Him to look down. I want His services
all over me. The crowd is leaning and
I go back to an empty dress room and I take
off the long drape dress and I take my feet
out of the shoes. I think of
just one thing. Did I please Him? Did I do my best for Him? Have you seen that
anywhere else where someone felt they were
not or got a word from God that they weren't
the first choice? - There are those that may
comment like that in different ...especially
in healing revivals in some Pentecostal
leaders. They felt like they
weren't God's first, second or third choice. I think Kathryn was so
large because she would tell it. "I was not"...You know
how she talked, "I wasn't God's
first choice. I was not even
His third choice. I was His
fourth choice". And so you know, I
like to interview the 3 men that said
"no" to that mantle. - Right. - Are you nuts? Look what she got and God
was trying to get her in there. So you have that as a
common denominator, the most
unlikely people, coming out of some of the
most worst moments or saddest moments of their life
and they reach and God reaches and this divine
thing happens and it sparks a great move. - All right, let me do this. I'm going to go through
some names and I want you to give
me your snapshot of each one of these guys. Okay? - I hope I know them all. And there are not in
necessarily a certain order or chronological order. Okay? - Okay. - Jack Coe. Uh... A very wonderful man
that began out of hurt and rejection. God anointed him but died
at the height of his career because of mismanagement
of his personal life. He did not manage his
health and thus he died in a 90-year-old body. When they did the
autopsy on him, he had the body of a
90-year-old man. He was overweight and he
did the big tent thing. Had the great gift of
faith but did not know how to deal with his own
personal challenges which led-- to an
early departure. Hagin and Oral
Roberts both said he had the greatest gift of
faith of anybody they knew... - But regardless, 38 is
way too young to leave. - He just got going. Think if he got to be 70
and then went to heaven, what he could have done. - Right. - And so... - Good, okay next one. Smith
Wigglesworth. - Uneducated. Never finished into a
formal education... Had his first experience
with the Holy Spirit in a grandmother's
Methodist... shout Methodist
revival meeting... Got enthused with the
Holy Spirit because people were getting healed in
the Alexander Boddy's meetings in Sunderland and he
didn't like the "tongues" stuff but he stayed
around long enough to fall into it we could say and
when he got Spirit filled, his stuttering
left and so he began to minister, like I said
a moment ago. His ministry really did not
begin until after his wife died. When Polly died on the
doorsteps of the church, he of course went ahead
and buried his wife and was grieving and across in his home at 70
Victor Rd. was a stack about 4
or 5 inch stack of envelopes and these were invitations
for Smith to come and preach because before he didn't
travel around the world much because he had a church and
a wife and family and so he stayed around
Europe, mainly England and so he dried up his tears and picked up his
grieving heart and said, "I'm gonna go" and he began to
answer those invitations, which led him into the
worldwide ministry of bringing the Holy Spirit
to South Africa and New Zealand
and Australia, the man that initially brought
that movement there and he had a great
personality... had a Yorkshire type of
accent... and they asked him one
day because he's known for his abruptness. - Right. - Now he didn't do that all the
time but he did it enough to where it's
legendary and they asked him one time. "Why do you hit people?" He goes, "I
don't hit people. I hit the devil, they
just get in the way". And so his personality
was such that it worked on that. Brother Sumrall, my
spiritual father said in the years he went to
visit Smith at his home. He never met anybody
else going to the house to meet Smith. Old great men usually
die alone because no one seeks out their wisdom
and so hopefully people watching will find the
living generals today of Wigglesworth's stature and go and say, "What
can we learn? Tell me that story again
where you prayed for me." I've been to people
today that they're home alone and they did great
things for God and they should not be alone. Great men and women
should be surrounded by young men into
future generals. - Amen to that. That is so true. All right. You touched
on my next one. My next one is
Lester Sumrall. God is not giving us a
spirit of fear... That thing that just runs
all of the whole total
human spectrum, hurt you in every
place. Then he says, "But God
is given us 3 things. You ought to
underline them. This is II Timothy 1:7. And I'd like to
supplement a few words if you don't mind. But God is given us
a Spirit of power. Not a Spirit of fear
but a Spirit of power. Now the word "power" has
to do with authority. Has to do with 2 things:
energy and authority. First authority. God is giving us a
Spirit of authority. That's the reason we
speak so positively because we
know, you see. We know. God hasn't giving
you a Spirit of fear. He's giving you a Spirit
of authority that you know. You speak it and
it has to be done. I would be telling you
about a witch doctor in the morning service that
I interviewed this last week. One of the most
prominent witch doctors in the whole of Africa and when we got through
the interview for an hour and a half, I said, "You feel
anything remarkable or unusual about me?" I hadn't told him
who I was yet. I just asked questions. That witch doctor said,
"Well Reverend..." He didn't know naturally
that I was a Reverend. He says, "Behind you is
a light that I have to observe as is you are very
strong man." He said, "I would
never cross you." That's all? God is not giving
us a Spirit of fear. He's giving us a
Spirit of power that's even recognized by people
who worship the devil. He said, "I would never
want to cross you." And so God is giving us
a Spirit of authority in the world that
we live in today. Don't you wish
we used it? Lester Sumrall carried a degree
of Smith's mantle anointing. The last time Sumrall
went to see brother Smith, the war was on. World War II was on and
he had to get out of England. The British have sent
him a letter to go home. So he went to his house
to say goodbye and in the foyer area of
Smith's home, he told him immediately,
"Get on your knees", and Smith laid his hands on his
shoulders and began to pray and brother Sumrall
said he cried until the tears off of
Smith's cheek would hit Sumrall's forehead and
asked God to give him a portion of what he carried and
that's the date that brother
Sumrall lost fear. He was the boldest and
most fearless man that I had ever met. - So he was fearful
before that. - Well, in some degree, yes but
he made the comment after that to me that
he never had a fear that he ever dealt with. Again it's one of those things
that just kind of happened. - And he was a bold guy. - He was gruff. I use the word "gruff". - Yea, gruff is the good word. - Not mean, or
rough but gruff. It's between gruff. You had to know him. Understand, part of that was
he's Irish, he's an apostle. He's also--got a certain
degree of punch to him. All that wound up
together created the
gruffness of brother Sumrall. What he is known
for besides... He only knew Smith for 3
years...3 to 4 years. The man that nobody ever
talks about is Howard Carter. He was his
spiritual father which is an unsung hero of
the Pentecostal movement but to go back to Sumrall, what was great with
Sumrall's ministry was the Filipino revival. The Philippines never
had a Protestant revival until the great
deliverance of Carlita with brother Sumrall in
the 1950s and... I don't have time to go there
but the great revival there came because he cast the
devil out of a girl being bitten by
an evil spirit - Uh huh, - and the mayor gave him anything he wanted out
of appreciation and he asked for the city
square that seated --stood about 150,000 people and so after 6 weeks of revival, after that deliverance, there was over 150,000
conversions in six weeks and Protestantism
exploded in the Philippines and he built at that time the largest Protestant
church in all of Asia. After Sumrall's great
church became Cho... was the next great
church in Korea. So the first great
huge church in Asia was Sumrall and the tens of
thousands and so we had that and so at the
height of that... - And you know, they
are still talking. They are still--When
you go to the Philippines, you can still see evidence. People have pictures
of that in their home. - Yea and it was the
event that allowed all Protestant
churches to thrive. - Right. - He dealt with the
principality and power. He dealt with the national power
there with that deliverance. Somehow that power and
that deliverance and that thing with that girl knocked that thing back to
where it's still not back and so it was a very
interesting thing and at the height of it, the height of that
church, height of that revival, God told him to
come back to America and so it seems like every place
Sumrall gets to going, he gets and
at the height of it, God sends him someplace
else and he came back home and he actually did more to
help young ministers than anybody else I know for
the end of his life and I was glad to say that he
was my spiritual dad and I had a good
relationship with him. He told me when I was right. He told me when I was wrong and it was good to have
that in your life. - Yea, absolutely. There is a lot of
wisdom in that. Okay, next up, A. A. Allen. Look at this child. [Crowd reacting] Six years old. Can't walk. How many would like to see
this poor little kiddy healed tonight. Look at that. [Crowd cheering] Oh my God. Have you ever seen anything
like in your life? [Crowd cheering] - No! Yes, honey. [Crowd applauding, awing] Poor little baby, oh, oh... [A. A. Allen shaking his head] Oh God,
[Crying] I'm praying for this
baby tonight. God, lift the curse and
let this baby begin to grow and become normal. Hold him, honey. Oh God, oh oh oh...God. [A. A. Allen praying
with emotion] In the name of Jesus,
make him normal. Make him whole. Let him walk. Let him talk in Jesus
mighty name, I ask for the Glory of God. Make him normal
in Jesus' name. Lord Jesus, make his legs
hold him up tonight. Let these legs hold
him up tonight, Jesus. Oh God, Yes Lord. Say amen. [Crowd cheering, applauding]
- Amen. Say amen. [Poeple cheering]
- Yes! - Say amen! [Crowd cheering] Everybody say "Amen"! [Crowd]
- Amen! And I'd like for you right
there in your homes to sing with me. Everybody sing it. Sing it everyone. ♪♪ In the sweet by and by, ♪♪ We shall meet on that
beautiful shore; ♪♪ In the sweet by and by, ♪♪ We shall meet on that
beautiful shore. ♪♪ In the sweet by and by, ♪♪ We shall meet on that
beautiful shore; ♪♪ In the sweet by and by, ♪♪ We shall meet on that
beautiful shore. [People cheering] Can you say
amen with me? [Crowd]
- Amen! - Do you love Jesus tonight? [Crowd shouting]
- Amen! - Sing it one more time. Let dedicate it to all
that had been saved while they watch
this telecast. In the sweet by and by
we shall meet on that beautiful shore. And I'd like to know that
everyone of you in your home
there today are singing with me. Ready to do it. And one of
these days, when you get up
yonder, the pearly gates
open wild, you're gonna see us coming
down, the golden streets. [Piano] ♪♪ In the sweet by and by, ♪♪ We shall meet on that
beautiful shore; ♪♪ In the sweet by and by, ♪♪ We shall meet on that
beautiful shore. [Crowd cheering with
song in background] One of the greatest
miracle ministries in the last of the great Voice
of Healing Revivals, a man that was raised
by moonshine parents who put liquor in his bottle, when he was a
baby to make him quiet and got saved by a track
or got provoked by a track that led him to a church of
a lady preacher that got him saved and
turned him around and he went to see Oral
Roberts here in Dallas because he was
passing Corpus Christi, Texas because the church wanted a
pastor to kind of get revived. Well it revived him so
much, he left the church and began the great A. A. Allen
revival ministries and he had some
phenomenal miracles. I mean, he was one of
the most persecuted. That is a true statement
because of the miracles also because he
integrated his tent. He also was prophetic. He began to tap into the
prophetic thing that we know about today:
prophetic music, things like we call it
prophetic music but music that can move in the
spirit, I'd say it that way because he goes down as
one of the greats. And nobody
divided up the pie. He is one of the
most wonderful guys. - Amen to that. Okay. R. W. Schambach. Are you listening
to me, folks? There is trouble in
the land but there is
still hope for the
people of God. Let them worship
their false gods. I'm not bowing down
to any false god. God is God! [Church cheering] And He is the same today
as He was 2000 years ago and He is the answer
to everyone of our problems. You don't have
any trouble. All you need is
faith in God. The true successors of brother
Allen's ministry is anointing ...Stewart got
the machines and the paper. Schambach got the
mantle in my opinion. He was able to pick that
up and continue it and be able to come into
another generation which would be mine,
your generation. - Yea. - And he was one of the received
authentic tent preachers of our time which were very
few in those days. The era was over. It seems like God always
leaves 1 or 2... that are successful that keeps
that all thing alive for some
reason and he was that and you know,
"You don't have any problem which is
more faith in God". His radio show and
great, great man. He came to my church
a couple times and preached and he never
spoke negative about brother Allen which
I always respected. He would always say,
"I never knew him like that." And maybe never did
and I guess it was a different time
because I asked him all the controversy that we've
just mentioned but he always... If you go to carry a
mantle from somebody, you must not become
--be negative against the thing that
you carry. You've got be be able to
hold it correctly or it begins to diminish
and sometimes fades. - That is...What you just
said is a mouthful. You've got to be
able to carry it. - Yep. - Wow. - Part of it is to
understand a bit of the demand. Every mantle has its
great things like if you carry a Kathryn
Kuhlman mantle which began--which came
down from Maria Etter. It came from Etter to
McPherson, to Kuhlman and then to
Benny Hinn carries some... All of them had the same
type of miracle power, the same type
of draw and they all have
the same problems. They had divorce
problems and at the end, they had that heart and
health problems. Every single of them so there
is a certain spirit that Lucifer assigns
to buffet mantles. Certain kinds of mantle so
if you carry something from someone,
you better know the good and the bad of it so you
can outsmart the bad and know how to punch it and
go around and not fall into it. Every
single one of them. If we had time, we can
go through all of them and I can show
you exactly how great it was and they all
had the same problems. - Right. What about...All right. Let me think where
I want to go to next because we have like
8 different directions here. All right. Well, let's just say.
Oral Roberts. - Another study. He didn't want
to be a preacher. He wanted to be the
governor of Oklahoma was his desire in life. He did not want to be a
poor little Pentecostal. He ran away from home and collapsed on the basketball
court in a basketball tournament coughing up parts
of his lungs. He had tuberculosis
which in those days, you were going to die. - Yeah. - And God healed him in a
tent meeting about the size of this studio. He was the last one to
be prayed for and God brought Oral Roberts on
the scene to bring the Pentecostal church from
the wrong side of the tracks to the right
side of the tracks. He finally was able to
bring education and
anointing together. - What do you mean when you say,
"The wrong side of the tracks to the right side of
the tracks?" - Early Pentecostals
were looked upon as uneducated, rude,
loud, not orthodoxed, all the things--When
you go from classical Lutheran, Methodist,
Baptist, Presbyterian, him singing, preaching
the classical way and all of a sudden, for
the first time in a 1000 years, you're allowing
emotion to be a part of your worship service so
if you felt a song, you could get happy and say,
"Amen", or you could clap
your hands and then the
anointing came on you and you go, "Um"
and run down the aisle. Now and all of a sudden,
that began to be allowed that's why early
Pentecostals would say, you know, "You can feel
it but just don't be led by it". It's all right to feel
it so when Pentecost came along, they were preaching, "God I
hear You today." Bible days are
here again. That faith like the
apostles have returned and you can get your
miracle and the gifts and the fruits and the
grace are here and they "Oh" and they
begin to get it and so these are the
educated people looking down on these folks
who are shouting as they are getting out
of their wheelchairs and their churches
are growing. Oral Roberts comes along
and begins with class and dignity and
education and then begins to tap into the
cultural things of the day because usually
most people who have a revival are
anti-culture. If you're smart, you
don't have a mixed culture and revival together so you can
go straight into it. In those days, the
"hellevision" called the TV, - Yes... - From the
Pentecostal... American government asked
the denominations to send responsible people to
help govern this new medium of television
when it first began and 90% of them did not even
want nothing to do with it. - They refused. - And so we inherited the
mess of that generation but Oral Roberts decided
he wanted to be on that little black box of TV
and he couldn't find anybody in the Christian
Full Gospel circles who understood television. He had to go to
Hollywood and ask 3 guys and this is where the term
Hollywood preacher came from. It was a slap
against Oral - Right, - and so he didn't have nobody. He didn't have TV cameras like
you and the guys back here. It didn't exist. He had to go and find
somebody and all of a sudden, it began to work and he
found the camera guys and the people that
could do it and he began to go on TV. And there was a young man named
Lonnie Rex who lives in Houston who got him
supernaturally bumped into the FCC
kind of guy at the time. They got Oral Roberts
connected to go on hundreds of stations in
a short matter of time because they wouldn't
want to put Oral on and he turned it and they
were at where they met at a Rolls-Royce
car show... Wow... because Lonnie Rex and that guy
both loved Rolls-Royce cars and they were the last 2 to
walk out of that show in Tulsa that day. - Wow. - And that's how,
it happened. When I started
this journey of learning about revivals, it
took a lot of time. I had to look at books,
I had to look at videos, I had to scour
the internet. Listen. Here the Revival Radio TV
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for instance... Right here--Let me see a
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Christians of Evangelical Faith
first conference. I can find out more
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Russia. The Pentecostal leaders
gathered in Odessa,
Ukraine for an assembly. You know, it's amazing
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