r/LegalAdvice - Insane Owner Lets Dog Attack Me, Doesn't Restrain It...

g'day there guys how's it going Maki here back at it again with another episode of our slash legal advice now if you're feeling in the mood for some bloody good legal advice I want you to sit back relax and enjoy this bloody good contents our first post is by user Viking thrower titled bit by dog at work I'm a package delivery driver and was bit while working by a 70 plus pound dog here's what happens I pulled up to a delivery and both a dog and its owner were outside when there's a dog outside it has to be behind a fence or on a leash for us to get out of the van I checked and the dog was laying down on a leash the earnest smiled and waved to me I got out with the package and started jogging up to the house to deliver it the dog looked at me and immediately started running towards me the owner said oh no and I looked at her like what do you mean owner the dog's leash snapped without him even breaking stride and he latched onto my ankle right at my Achilles I don't remember if the dog ever let go or if I pulled my ankle out of his mouth but then he started lunging at me again and I kept the package between us so he couldn't bite me again the owner came over and put herself between us didn't grab his collar or anything he just kept jumping in front of him every time he tried coming at me this went on for a couple of minutes as she is also nonchalantly asking me if I need first aid or any information and complaining about how now she's going to have to chase the dog around the neighbourhood the dog started running big circles and as soon as I felt there was enough distance for me to book it to the van I took off I ended up going to the hospital because my entire foots ankle and lower leg were pretty swollen it was still bleeding off and on hours later and I couldn't move my foots let alone put weight on it the doctor said I probably won't be able to put any weight on it for a week so now I've just lost half my paycheck I'm not really into suing people for no reason but the fact that she said owner before the dog did anything and was so nonchalant about the whole thing leads me to believe that this wasn't a surprise for her I'm all for guard dogs but I don't think having an aggressive dog with no beware of dog sign and not being in control of it is okay luckily I'm 180 pounds with a good amount of muscle for a female but what if it had been a child that was running in the neighborhood and who's to say that won't happen again to another delivery person I don't want the dog to be put down because I firmly believe 90% of the time a dog's behavior is based on the owner I do think that the dog needs to be properly trained though or given to someone else who can is there anything I can legally do to make that happen thanks in advance for the advice edits I live in Illinois in the u.s. added to I don't know if it makes any difference but the owner was who I was delivering to I'm not sure about your local laws but you need to make a claim with your work I think I did if giving a statement counts I'm not sure my boss said she'd take care of the reports and call me if she needed any further info that I hadn't already told her you need to make a claim at work and report the dog bite to Animal Control don't worry not all dog report by its resorts to the dog being put down that makes me feel a lot better and I was required to report the dog when I went to the hospital for them to treat me does giving a statement at work count as a claim my boss knows about it and said she was going to fill out a report to give to higher-ups and that I should just worry about resting up thanks for the advice I think it depends on the company I had to fill out a form than hand to my boss but it sounds about right everything you have done so far is correct have you discussed with anyone about paying for the treatments because the owner is liable in this case the doctor said that workers comp should cover it but they took my insurance down just in case I didn't have any plans to sue until I went to the hospital and realized my boss would be paying for it it's a very small close-knit family atmosphere type company and I don't think it's fair that she has to pay for something that wasn't really her faults sad face according to Amazon's policy I did everything right but my boss put a new rule in today for our company saying that we need to call the customer for now on if there is any kind of dog outside leashed or not we aren't allowed to step out of the van now until the dog is behind a fence or inside also I used the word sue but I specifically mean the owner paying for medical costs I think that's considered suing I'm not well-versed in law sorry yes that is suing and it is the owners fault she did not control the dog even leashed she didn't properly control it sir is the next step contacting a lawyer who specializes in dog bites or should I contact the owner first about its you can contact the owner and or even file a claim with the homeowners insurance if that fails then yes get a lawyer did you call the police to report the dog attack then you ask the homeowner for their insurance also if the dog was trained poorly then there may be no hope to retrain it if the police want to put it down then you should not care it is the crappy owners fault and not your fault you should also make a workman's comp claim give them all the info of the address and the owner that you have I didn't even think about calling the police to be honest I was kind of hysterical and couldn't call until I was already safe back in the van and I didn't get the owners insurance or anything because the dog was still on the loose when I ran back into the van fight or flight kicked in and I just knew I needed to get away ASAP I have the address still sir I could go back and get the rest of her info but I really don't want to go back alone onto her property with that dog there it might sound dumb but that was actually really scary with me being on crutches right now there's no way I'm outrunning that dog if it slips out the door or something like that you should call the police as soon as you can you can go to the station show them your injuries and medical reports give them your address and what you remember they will go there and talk to the people at the house this is a very dangerous dog you need to report it to the police you can literally save a neighborhood child by getting the police involved I was thinking about going to the police station tomorrow morning I didn't want to do anything originally because I didn't want the dog put down but then I thought about the earnest behavior and realized it was probably more of a win rather than if that dog bit anyone again she was so casual during the whole thing and now updates I went to the station today and filed a report the officer said he dropped by the owners house tomorrow morning to her side of the story then call me also most of the pain is gone luckily as long as I don't put weight on my foots not ideal but progress unexposed is titled ordered delivery last night's delivery boy stole a package on our property which led to me finding out they added a debit card tip without authorization which led to me finding out they've done it in the past as well what do I do hi location is Massachusetts my family frequents a local wing franchise regularly last nights I ordered delivery and when I opened the door I noticed an amazon package by the delivery boys foots it was white with blue letters on it and a shipping label this was 9:00 p.m. so I made a strange face at the package looked at it for a long moments and as I looked at it the delivery boy did too I've never seen this delivery boy before and he didn't say a word to me just gave me my food without having me sign the receipt for its and I gave him his five dollar cash tip the entire interaction was odd I went inside to set the food down before going back to open the door and retrieve the package but the package was gone in the single minutes I went to place my food in the house the package disappeared I live in a three family apartment my aunt lives on the first floor I told my mom to text my sleeping on if she was expecting a package because I think someone just stole it I ate my food and went to sleep I have the delivery boy's phone number I went to check the online tracker to see if it had his name on it and imagine my shock when I see a debit card tip added to my bill there but not on any of my three receipts after I already gave this Punk a five dollar tip this led me to check my pasta livery receipts on my email and compare them to my bank statements only to find here and there that my total would be 14 28 on my receipts because I had not authorised to tip but my bank shows they actually took 1728 I never tip on a card ever only cash my mom called my aunt this morning while she was at work and asked if she was expecting a package she said yes my uncle's Amazon account said he got a delivery at 8:00 p.m. last nights but he couldn't find the package when he got home now I have no idea what to do but boy am i ticked my uncle is friends with the bar right next to us so we are going to see if their cameras caught the boy or his car but otherwise I don't know where to go with this my uncle is still sleeping when he wakes up I will have to see what he wants to do but I am livid then they are sneakily up charging me I have these photos showing all three of my receipts saying my total is $18 and two cents but their websites saying I added a $2 24 tip on card when I didn't I know it's only a package and a couple of dollars here and there but this isn't okay what do I do all of this happened on a debit card not a credit card do I contact my bank do I contact the store do me and my uncle file police reports sorry if this is stupid but I'm shaken up any advice helps I would like to post these photos of my receipt on Facebook maybe including the thief's phone number explaining what happened and telling everyone else to check their emailed receipts and bank statements too if they've ordered from here is that illegal not a lawyer but used to deliver pizza call the store and ask to speak to a store manager if there's a corporates I would optical corporates and tell them that there was a fraudulent tip added to your order then called the store and say there was a package on your porch last night when the driver was there and it went missing shortly after you're getting a recording from your neighbors security camera but if the driver saw anything it would be helpful for your police reports you can then choose whether or not to file a police report on the card fraud or package corporate will run their investigation either way and whoever is fraudulently tipping will be held accountable keep in mind there the fraud appears to be the driver I have seen managers and tips to driver's orders and then take that because it's harder to pin them that way best of luck getting it all sorted out and hopefully someone gives you some more legal standing on what to do restaurant manager here and when we get that call and we all get that call if it's a server bartender or delivery every time anyone who handles money cash card check anything they verify at the end of the shift those receipts get collected along with their signatures verifying how much they made tips claimed etc there is a stored either on site or sent to corporates and will be pulled to verify anything at a later point that's when they will look at the handwriting to see if it matches and will then look at other tips to see if it's more widespread the most common is adding a zero after a number if they are really cash desperate a $2.00 tip becomes a $20 tip always write cash tip if leaving cash but never leave that line blank if you can get your credit card involved if you really want crab to happen fast a manager has better crap to do than to search and investigate for hours for theft and it's let me be clear what I say we have better crap to do I mean that in the sense when we get that call we know it's going to take all day and we know 100 percent of the time it's true so now that employee who you thought was honest likeable trustworthy is a piece of crap and now you have to piece together a puzzle which includes calling HR pulling out old files becoming a handwriting experts calling a customer to confirm we stole your money pulling up any video from that time if they ate in going through other receipts that day day before day after etc Ozzy surfer euro says going forward right 9 or cash tip in the tip line to protect yourself from future fraud good luck not a lawyer I do that but he handed me both receipts and didn't take any for himself thank you wait you have both the customers copy in the business copy not sure how a delivery person would swing that sounds like a manager scheme so maybe you just got targeted by two different people on the same nights yes I have both copies unsigned both pictured in the photo I thought it was incredibly weird to the interaction was awkward because I was expecting him to have a pen and have me sign but instead he just handed the food over double or normal says if this does all turn out to be shady doing I change your card number your receipts say the number was keyed meaning it was manually entered presumably you give it to them over the phone when you order it's a pretty unsafe practice and if there are shady folks working there I wouldn't want them to possibly have a record of my card number good advice I recently had to cancel my card and get a new one because I randomly got a parking charge in Miami Florida I've never been to Florida nor do I even have my license yet could have been because of them I type my card into the website when I order if I pick it up in person they still take my card and punch the numbers in themselves they don't have a card reader contact law enforcement about the stolen package contact the store about the tips explain what has happened the evidence you have and ask for them to pay back to you all that you can prove you don't think I should mention to the store what happens with the package the delivery driver was on the clock in a one-minute span he and the package were there and then they weren't this sucks my uncle told me the package was something for his bike and has a tracker on it already so he can actually track down where it is so he says but I will be calling them and corporates first and foremost report it to the restaurant that you purchased from if they don't know they can't do anything about it in the future allow them to make a choice to make it right if they so desire you would be incredibly surprised to know that restaurants want to know when there is a problem honestly your business in the future is completely at stake here and they do want that one was it a delivery service like ubereats or any of the others or was it the restaurant itself this matters to if it was a delivery service contact them they all have fairly decent customer service kid will likely be right out of a job that he probably needs this is my first route if it was one of the bigger delivery services three you have very little recourse in the package other than Amazon themselves I wouldn't necessarily tell them the whole story just that your stuff was gone but that part is up to you Amazon is pretty good about it too for last but not least whomever this kid works for needs to be notified of his actions about the tip stuff that is theft and restaurants that are struggling simply won't tolerate that no way no how not now not ever the package sadly is a whole different item and should be addressed with Amazon and your uncle or aunts credit card credit card companies have the to refund monies and often will five you can file a police report on both items if you wish and if you go with a credit card claim or your aunt / uncle they would have to do this parts it might even be mandatory I wouldn't expect to ever hear about it again from the police however they certainly have bigger fish to fry but it might be mandatory for the refund on the Amazon package at the very least it puts this kid on the radar locally you simply can not be the only one he has done this to no way no how not in any universe you do you a good person but make sure whoever employs the delivery driver knows of this if they don't they can't stop it in the future and yes it would be in your best interest to go to the bank and open a secured credit card where you throw five hundred in a bank and they issue a card you miss a payment and they subtracted from that five hundred and Singhal credits in about a year or two they will release your five hundred and you will have a credit card use the card for dining outs and buying items online only never use the full amounts but be regular with its views don't miss or be late on a payment and in a little while you will have credits credit cards protect you about two thousand percent better than debit for purchases just an FYI good luck updates delivery driver theft it was handled professionally hi everyone I cannot believe how much that post blew up that was never my intention for it to get to the front page or to negatively affect anybody but the thief that thief doesn't represent the entire company and has now been fired my inbox is absolutely exploded and I will respond to everyone when I get the chance but this whole situation has made me feel really sick anxious and I have a splitting headache in the moment that I posted it's I was extremely angry and hurt I worked very very hard for my money and on Tuesday I will be paying $900 plus for my senior cats to have a dental surgery this guy taking money out of my pocket was taking food out of my cat's mouth after I had already given a 25% plus cash tip and who knows how many people he's done this to I couldn't and still can't believe someone would be stupid enough to steal from someone who knows their phone number place of work and knows what they look like especially when I was already generous it literally doesn't feel real I don't know why this guy decided to make such a choice the only reason I posted here was because I had no idea what to do or where to start thank you to everyone who offered me advice and insights anyways I contacted corporates and then contacted the location themselves the manager was very kind to me he seemed understanding and more than reasonable I'm very thankful he was working there today and helped me out dude deserves a raise for handling this situation so well corporate expressed that they were horrified and would make it right shortly after talking to them the restaurant called me back to tell me the Punk confessed to fraud and in putting his own tip they will now be launching an investigation and he was immediately fired they offered me $100 credits and gave me refunds for the two meals that had fraudulent charges on them I am happy with the way the company has handled this but I think they need to make some big changes as to their receipt layout etc and hope they do after that the owner of the location contacted me and apologized he even offered to compensate for the cost of the package which I would say is pretty above and beyond as for the package I don't know what my uncle's plan is it's his call I thought I would never be able to eat from this place again which would have been pretty devastating I didn't think this idiots actions could be excused but the company has been very reasonable and apologetic they responded very swiftly and took this seriously I think that's worth everybody noting it has been dealt with so I don't feel as if I have to avoid them and you shouldn't either I don't feel like they have just blown this off this could happen anywhere just make sure you hold people accountable my advice to everyone else is save your emails compare your receipts to your bank statements every so often and don't let anyone get away with screwing you over two dollars and twenty four cents wasn't going to make or break me but it's two dollars and twenty four cents I worked for and am entitled to two dollars twenty four was powerful enough this guy was willing to lose his job his girlfriend over know your worth no your money's worth and I sincerely hope this guy thinks about his actions and finds the right path for him soon an unexposed his by user jade green leaves titled I saw some boys brutally torturing and killing wild turtles while fishing how do I report this on a fishing trip I encountered some boys capturing Turtles for the purpose of killing them in slow sadistic ways they were enjoying the torture and had no other reason to catch them for the future what would be the best way to report and stop this can i call 9-1-1 or is there a better hotline to dial animal cruelty makes me sick and i would like to have legitimate legal means to stop the torture should i encounter a similar situation again thanks in advance edits this happened in rural oklahoma edit - ok i'm going to file a report after role i was under the guise that there wasn't anything that I could do but I see that isn't true hopefully I have enough info to get these Punk's tracked down thanks everyone for your help I really appreciate it contact your local US Fish and Wildlife office they have Law Enforcement Division specifically for these types of issues thank you I wasn't sure if there was someone I could call that would immediately put an end to the situation we'll definitely call the game warden next time don't wait until next time this should be reported immediately and will be taken seriously please call and reports wildlife Elier is typically excellent at pursuing charges not something you wait until next time for reported ASAP and save the lives of some innocent creatures and possibly humans down the line when these boys get a psych evaluation another thing worth mentioning is that sadistic torture of animals can be an exploratory precursor to worse things done against both other animals as well as humans reporting these boys might be what gets them the help they need or at least gets them into the system where patterns of behavior could later be identified I work for FWS but I'm commenting as a private citizen and this is absolutely the right move contact the nearest office and ask for a law enforcement hasar they will either have a refuge officer if you call a National Wildlife Refuge or a special agent that you can talk to you at the very least the officer can take your statements to have on file so they can build a case if this happens again and if the people are ever identified if you see it again then please call the officer right away or at least write down some identifying info like license plate description of the people's safe vehicle and center our officers could also collect evidence from the animal after they leave it's wildlife related crimes are serious to the people who work in FWS so it's unlikely they will ignore your call contact a game warden via Fish & Wildlife there is no one a game warden hates more than someone who tortures wildlife it will be taken seriously I didn't even think of that we'll certainly do that next time you can still report it and still do torturing animals is not hunting it's a small step from torturing animals to torturing people please report this sadly I was too stunned to think about collecting names or descriptions their clothing / appearance could have been anyone else at the lake I wish I would have thought of reporting at the time but the attitude around here is very much boys will be boys I was afraid the cops wouldn't take killing a few Turtles seriously but I will definitely call and report next time the game wouldn't shouldn't tolerate that sort of thing hope you'll report the incidents place time and descriptions can help them know where to keep an extra eye out and who or what to look for they'll also be able to look for any injured animals unfortunately the thought of taking legal action didn't hit me until after the facts the boys were certainly minors and animal abuse of this type is unfortunately very common around Lake areas I felt powerless to stop it other than yelling at them which only seemed to encourage them further unless we're talking years you should still report it for the reasons stated above I understand I'm just not sure I collected enough information for the police to work with if I had a name or license-plate number that could identify them I definitely would I think it's too late to find them or is the vague info I have enough to file a reports file it with what you have just file it it creates a paper trail which may be helpful to someone down the road and now updates I talked to an officer and he said that they didn't consider it animal abuse if it wasn't a domestic animal in question he said the local lake patrol was unlikely to do much about it but I could try to report it anyway update to I have reported the incidents and given my description of the boys I've done all I can do it's in their hands now thank you to everyone who gave advice my question has been answered g'day there guys outro Markie here hope you enjoyed the episode as much as I enjoyed making it today if you did be sure to LIKE comment and subscribe tell me what you thought about it down below also if you like memes be sure to head on over to my second channel Markie - it should be one of the sexiest rallyin faces on screen the one without the flag it's my latest and greatest creation and I hope you like it also I'd like to give a huge shout out to my channel members and patreon subscribers you guys do so much good for me and the support goes without saying but I'm gonna say it anyway I love you guys and I appreciate all the help and support you provide me on this channel also if you want to join the family links it down in the 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Published: Mon Jun 01 2020