Radeon RX 7900 XTX vs. GeForce RTX 4080, FSR vs. DLSS / Ray Tracing Benchmarks

[Music] welcome back to Harbor unboxed now recently I've noticed a lot of you asking for an updated radon RX 1700 XT versus GeForce RTX 480 Benchmark using the latest drivers with the latest games as you plan on buying one of these gpus for Christmas or you're hoping to land a sweet Black Friday deal next month whatever the case I've got loads of fresh data for you but before we get into it to today's video is sponsored by Asus and their excellent Rog Swift OLED pg27 aqm gaming monitor in our testing we found the pg27 aqm to be the best 27in 1440p 240Hz OLED monitor on the market not only does it feature the excellent black levels Lightning Fast Response times and per pixel local dimming that we've come to love from OLED but it's also the brightest model for HDR gaming with this panel that we've seen yet this is a truly excellent display that delivers speed and motion Clarity for multiplayer gaming as well as stunning HDR visuals for single player gaming all in the one package to learn more about the Asus pg27 aqm click the link in the description below okay so as it stands right now at the start of October you're looking at having to pay at least $910 us for a 7900 XTX with most models priced closer to the $1,000 us MSRP but as an example the powercolor hellhound that's available at $910 us while the sapphire pulse can be had for $920 over at Newegg so some decent discounts apply to those models then for the RTX 480 you're looking at around $1,100 us for the cheapest model the gigabyte Eagle for example is $1,090 us and the OC version is $1,100 us while msi's Ventus is $1,180 us that said though you will find the vast majority of 480s still up around the $1,200 us MSRP and that means the radon GPU is typically around 15% cheaper in today's market which is what you'd expect given the MSRP of each model so not a lot has changed on the value front there at least the pricing front but we do have new drivers and new games so let's see how they get on as usual for testing we're using our ryzen 7 7800x 3D test system with 32 GB of ddr5 6000 cl30 memory and the display driv is used a game ready 53742 and adrenaline Edition 23.93 okay I reckon it's about time we jumped into the data so let's do it first up we have The Last of Us Part One a game that's been heavily patched since the initial release and performance here looks good using the ultra quality preset and both gpus are highly competitive the RTX 480 was just 4% faster at 1080p while the 7900 XTX nudged ahead by a 4% margin at 440p and then by more commanding 8% at 4K now if we enable upscaling with the quality dlss and FSR modes we find some odd scaling with the Radeon GPU having triple checked the data I consistently found that the Radeon GPU didn't render any additional frames at 1080p with FSR enabled we're looking at basically identical performance to that of the Native result the RTX 480 on the other hand that saw an 18% increase once we enabled dlss at 1080p FSR did seem to be working as expected at 1440p though boosting the 1700 XTX performance by 22% though we did see a more impressive 30% increase for the 4080 it was a similar story at 4K and now both gpus are seen delivering similar performance with just over 90 FPS so something seems to be a bit of a miss here with FSR in the last ofs part one moving on to the remnant 2 using the ultra preset we find the 7900 XTX is clear clearly faster beating the RTX 480 by a 133% margin at 1080p 177% at 1440p and then 22% at 4K overall though performance was good from both gpus and it's really only the 4K results where the 77900 XTX was noticeably better but of course we can enable upscaling so let's go do that now with FSR and dlss enabled the margins do close up though the 17900 XTX is still the faster of the two offering 6% more performance at 1080p 7% more at 1440 appear 6% more at 4K so overall the experience was very similar next up we have Starfield and this is a very Pro AMD title the results are mostly CPU Limited at 1080p but that's not the case at 1440p and here the 7900 XTX was 12% faster and then 177% faster at 4K which is quite a significant margin and more crucially this saw the radon GPU pushing over 60 FPS on average now with FSR and dlss enabled on the appropriate gpus we see see no real change at the CPU limited 1080p resolution but the RTX 480 is able to catch up at 1440p then at the 4K resolution the rad on GPU enjoyed a 21% uplift using FSR while the RTX 480 was boosted by 25% with the a of dlss the end result being a 14% performance Advantage going the way of the radon GPU moving on to Boulders Gate 3 using the ultra quality settings we find very similar performance between these two gpus the 1080p and 1440p results of CPU limited but even at 4K we're looking at almost identical performance in the city of Boulders gate now with upscaling enabled the 1080P and 1440p numbers remain much the same but we do see a big boost to the 4K performance the radon GPU for example saw a massive 60% increase resulting in a 9% performance advantage over the RTX 480 testing Resident Evil 4 using the prioritized Graphics preset which doesn't enable Raad tracing we see the 7900 xdx is slightly faster than the 480 at each of the tester resolutions though performance overall was excellent from both gpus now this title only supports FSR so rather than test both gpus with amd's FSR technology because that does seem to get you in trouble I've enabled the maximum quality preset which uses R tracing and this saw the RTX 480 nudger head at 1080P and 1440p by up to a 4% margin while the 7900 XTX was just 4% faster at 4K so very competitive results overall next we have the Kalisto protocol and here the RTX 480 and 7900 XTX are very evenly matched delivering virtually identical performance at all three tester resolutions using the ultra quality preset oddly though even with r tracing enabled we still find the same thing both gpus and neck and neck normally you'd expect to see the RTX 480 nudger head with rate racing enabled but overall performance was very similar to SP desite the frame rates having been halved moving on to Far Cry 6 this is another game that only supports FSR so we'll look at the native rized performance along with some additional rate racing results using the ultra preset the 7900 XTX is 8% faster at 1080p 14% faster at 1440p and a massive 23% faster at 4K now with rate tracing enabled we find that performance at 1080P and 440p is CPU limited to just over 160 FPS which is plenty of performance for this title but at 4K the radon GPU is still faster delivering 14% more frames with an average of 108 FPS now Ratchet and Clank Rift depart has been tested using a few different configurations and we'll start with the very high preset here the RTX 480 was 6% faster at 1080p 10% faster at 1440p and 8% faster at 4K so the GeForce GPU is clearly faster here though there's not always that much in it but if we enable Road tracing using the high quality settings the 7900 XTX gets annihilated rendering just 76 FPS at 1080p making the 4080 an incredible 59% faster then at 1440p it was 61% faster and then 74% faster at 4K then if we enable upscaling the RTX 480 is seen delivering 48% more frames at 1080p 54% more at 40 40p and 56% more at 4 K the 4K data is particularly impressive for NVIDIA as here the RTX 480 was able to deliver a highly playable experience with 84 FPS while the 7900 XTX was noticeably inferior with just 54 FPS on average next up we have Star Wars Jedi Survivor and in this title using the Epic preset with rad tracing disabled the GeForce GPU was 6% faster at 1080p 7% faster at 1440p and just 3% faster at 4K then with r trade ring enabled we find the RTX 480 is just 3% faster at 1080p though these results are a bit CPU limited and then at 1440p it's 12% faster and 133% faster at 4K so enabling RT does favor the GeForce GPU but only slightly then with upscaling enabled we run into CPU limited results at 1080p with around 110 FPS on average and increasing the resolution to 1440p does alleviate that CPU bottleneck handing the RTX 480 a 133% performance advantage so similar to what we saw prior to enabling upscaling and then just 8% at 4K upscaling does appear a bit broken in Star Wars Jedi Survivor this is another set of results that I triple checked but it does seem as though FSR and dlss don't really work that well here as we're not seeing any real performance improvement with either upscaling technology Hitman 3 is an older game but it supports both rage racing along with dlss and FSR so it was worth including using just the ultra preset sees the 17900 XTX and RTX 480 very evenly matched at 1080P and 1440p but the rad on GPU does run away with it at 4K delivering 177% greater performance however if we enable rad tracing it all goes a bit pearshaped for the radon GPU and now the 480 is seen to be 18% faster at 1080p 15% faster at 1440p and 12% faster at 4K generally speaking frame rates are very low with rt enabled so let's try with some upscaling in this example both FSR and dlss boost performance quite dramatically the 480 is now 21% faster at 1080p though the 7900 XTX was also good for 100 FPS on average we're also looking at an 18% margin at 1440p and 14% at 4K so a clear win here for the GeForce GPU next up we have f123 and we're going to start with the high preset which is the highest quality preset you can enable in the game that doesn't use rate racing under these conditions the 7900 XTX is much faster than the RTX 480 delivering 26% more performance at 1080p 24% more at 1440p and 21% more at 4K but if we enable the highest quality preset being ultra high the RTX 480 actually pulls ahead albeit by a slim margin but it's now 3% faster at 1080p 4% faster at 1440p and 8% faster at 4K then with upscaling enabled we see quite a significant increase in performance and now the 7900 XTX and RTX 480 are neck and neck with no more than a 5% margin separating the two moving on to fora Horizon 5 this is a title where rdna A3 gpus like the 17900 XTX had some performance issues early on but that seems to have been mostly addressed at this point the 1% lows weren't quite as good as what you'd expect when compared to the 4080 but performance overall was good and the average frame rates were a bit higher using the ultra quality preset even with r tracing enabl using the extreme preset the 7900 XTX was generally faster though again 1% lows were very similar to that of the RTX 480 still at 1080p the radon GPU was on average 15% faster 16% faster at 1440p and 20% faster at 4K then with upscale enabled we find another example where FSR appears to be a bit broken on the 7900 XD X as performance either stays the same or we even see a few dropped frames meanwhile when enabling dlss on the 4080 it gained 4% more performance at 1080p 6% at 1440p and 11% at 4K so not a lot of extra performance but dlss does at least appear to be working and in that 4K example that meant the 17900 XTX went from a 20% lead to just 7% with upscaling enabled cyberpunk 2077 was tested using the latest version of the game and with the high quality preset enabled the 7900 XTX and RTX 480 were very competitive the radio on GPU was just 5% faster at 1440p and 10% faster at 4K but once again if we enable rracing the 1700 XTX performance goes to hell with just 61 FPS rendered at 1080p making the GeForce GPU 46% faster then at 1440p it was 40% faster and 42% faster at 4K though neither GPU was able to deliver playable performance here thankfully FSR does appear to be working in this title but so to as dlss so although the 1700 XTX was now good for 89 FPS at 1080p the RTX 480 was still 52% faster it was also 46% faster at 440p and 29% faster at 4K so an easy win here for the gForce GPU next up we have Spider-Man remastered and here we find when using the very high preset the performance is CPU Limited at 1080P and even 1440p with the 7800x 3D to around 220 FPS which is obviously still very impressive then at 4K we are GPU limited but even here the 1700 XTX and RTX 480 a neck and neck enabling rid tracing doesn't change the margins too much despite reducing the overall frame rate both gpus are very evenly matched so RT doesn't the radon GPU in this example now with up scaling enabled were almost entirely CPU limited when using the RTX 480 even at 4K which is pretty crazy the 4080 saw a 32% performance boost with dlss enabled at 4K whereas the 7900 XTX only saw a 177% increase so FSR is offering less of a boost here which is ot's generally speaking dlss and FSR scale about the same that said we have seen examples where GeForce gpus actually scale better than radon gpus when using FSR so there's a very good chance that the 480 would have delivered these same results using FSR though image quality might not have been as good especially at 1080p for example moving on to fortnite and we'll start with the direct X11 performance using the Epic quality settings now competitive Gamers generally use direct X11 as it offers the best frame consistency in fortnite and as such the game's performance mode uses dx11 here the GeForce GPU was 20% faster at 1080p 14% % faster at 1440p and a massive 42% faster at 4K however the radon gpus generally perform much better using direct X12 and we see that here where the 7900 XTX and RTX 480 are for the most part neck and neck and we also have Hardware R Racing enabled along with Lumen and nanite both set to Epic now with upscaling enabled we find some interesting results though please note that the game doesn't support FSR and therefore we're having to use TSR with the rad on GP the RTX 480 closes in at 1080P and manages to pull ahead at 1440p though 1% lows aren't quite as good then at 4K the 17900 XTX received a 47% boost with TSR but the RTX 480 only enjoyed a 33% increase when using dlss handing the radon GPU an 8% performance Advantage at this extreme resolution testing Dying Light 2 using the high preset enables direct X11 by default and here the 7 900 XTX does very well just edging out the RTX 480 at each tested resolution so that's a good result for AMD but if we were to enable R tracing it's a totally different story much like what we saw in cyberp Punk the 4080 is now 39% faster at 1080p 38% faster at 1440p and 31% faster at 4K so an easy win here for NVIDIA and as it so often is the margin seen at 4K is very noticeable and makes the 4080 more use usable then with FSR and dlss quality upscaling enabled the rgx 480 was 36% faster at 1080p 33% faster at 1440p and 30% faster at 4K so the upscaling margin slightly favored the radon GPU compared to what we saw at the native resolution but overall they were very similar the last game tested is Hogwarts Legacy and with the ultra preset enabled the 7900 XTX was good for 146 FPS at 1080p making it 11% faster than the RTX 480 it was also 12% faster at 1440p and 14% faster at 4K so strong performance here from the radon GPU however with rate tracing enabled the 480 does close in and even nudges ahead so performance here is very competitive and finally with dlss and FSR upscaling enabled the results at 1080p are mostly CP Limited at 1440p though FSR provides the 7900 XTX with a 41 % performance boost while dlss increased the RTX 480s frame rate by just 19% handing the rad on GP a 12% win here with rage tracing enabled the RTX 480 does hit the lead at 4K though besting the radi on GPU by 12% across the 17 games tested when looking at rasterization only performance the 7900 XTX was on average just 3% faster the only real outliers were f123 where the radio GPU was 26% faster and fortnite using direct X11 where it was 177% slower now earlier in the year I put together a 50 game Benchmark between these two gpus and found that on average at 1440p they delivered the same performance and this time with far fewer games but with a number of newer titles and of course the latest drivers the 1700 XTX ended up coming out on top by 4% margin though anything within 5% we typically deem to be a tie then at 4K the radio GPU was 7% faster on average which is starting to become a noteworthy margin and if it wasn't for the massive loss in fortnite it would have almost got to double digits now looking at just the R racing results where we have 13 examples the 7900 XTX was on average 8% slower so the results have been flipped and then some there are just too many titles where the radi on GPU gets destroyed such as Ratchet and Clank cyber Punk and Dying Light to as the worst examples and things don't improve at 440p and now the 7 XTX was on average 9% slower though a solid result in Forza Horizon 5 helped and close calls in titles such as the clisto protocol fortnite Far Cry 6 Spider-Man f123 Resident Evil 4 and Hogwarts Legacy all stopped the radio on GPU from getting completely run over then at 4K we find more of the same here the 7900 XTX was 7% slower in average and while there is some shuffling of the margins overall the results are much the same the biggest changes see we're looking at the Far Cry 6 data the 17900 XTX goes from 1% slower at 1440p to 14% faster at 4K so this could be down to memory bandwidth now if we include the upscaled rat tracing data at 1080p which Cuts us down to just 10 titles as not all supported dlss such as the Kalisto protocol for example we find the 7900 XTX is now 9% slower on average that's not to say this is a scaling issue with FSR though as the gamees list has changed though we did see a few examples where FSR didn't behave as expected then at 1440p the radon GPU slips to come in 11% slower and again it's Ratchet and Clank cyber Punk and Dying Light 2 where the 7900 XTX gets rolled finally at 4K the 7900 XTX was again 11% slower on average and this result was helped by strong performance in fortnite and Forza Horizon 5 so as I noted at the beginning of this video if we take the best pricing for each of these gpus right now the 700 XT it's at least 15% cheaper there have been some recent discounts here and there which gets it closer to 20% which I think is probably the magical number for making this the go-to option in my opinion and look for rasterization performance this thing is generally faster despite being more affordable at 4K we saw that it was on average 7% faster and there were a number of instances where the margin was over 20% so that's certainly good for this car in rasterization the margins at 1080P and 1440p they were less significant let's say despite the 700 XTX having a slight performance Advantage overall So based on that the radon GPU is Great Value but if you're interested in R tracing performance things get much more complicated with upscaling enabled the 1700 XTX was on average 11% slow when it came to rad tracing and we did see a few tiles where it was more than 20% slower with Ratchet and Clank being by far the worst example though Dying Light 2 and cyber Punk weren't pretty for the radon GPU either so taking all of that into account I think it's fair to say that the 7900 XTX needs to be at least 15% cheaper in order to really compete for your money against the RTX 480 an advantage of the 1700 XTX is the extra vram going from 16 GB to 24 GB which is a massive 50% increase and on paper that's a really good thing for the radon GPU and I'm sure some point in the future it'll also prove to be quite handy though I'm not sure it'll happen within the realistic lifespan of either product so it's hard to say how much you should care about this at this point in time now a disadvantage for the radio and GPU is power consumption and depending on the title The 17900 xdx can increase total system usage by 15% so around 60 watts though in our day one review we found numerous examples where the power usage was quite similar so power consumption shouldn't be a massive massive Factor When comparing these particular models the RTX 480 though that has the advantage of superior upscaling technology it's not always miles better but overall we found that dlss does deliver the best image quality especially at lower resolutions such as 440p and 1080p if you have to use it there though we don't necessarily recommend that as we saw the RTX 480 generally delivers better R tracing performance and with the recent introduction of Ray reconstruction you could also be looking at better quality Raad tracing though that's yet to be seen Ray rear construction is a new feature that's not well supported yet but we expect support to improve over the coming months then there's dlss frame generation which I feel is best described as a frame smoothing technology that can enhance the visuals with smoother motion just as you would normally see with higher frame rates we have found that frame gen can be handy for certain single player games if the base frame rate is already up around 60 FPS allowing it to provide what looks like a high refresh rate experience with the input of around 60 FPS so not quite the same thing not a true High refresh rate experience but it can certainly enhance part of the experience this technology can really only be applied to single player games so if you're mostly into competitive shooters for example all frame generation Technologies at this point in time are pretty well worthless as a side note AMD has just released FSR 3 it's available in two rather unexciting games and we are currently well into testing it out and a video will be on the channel tomorrow so I'm not going to say anything more about it here at this point though I should probably just wrap this video up I will say that I think at a 15% discount the 7900 XTX is a viable option and worth considering in place of the RTX 480 but it's far from an automatic purchase for me so with the cheapest RTX 480 is currently at $1,090 us I think this 1700 XTX really needs to start at $900 for it to be my go-to option and right now the hellhound is almost there so keeping all of that in mind you should now know how these two gpus need to be priced during events like Black Friday so hopefully that helps if it did you know what to do you can subscribe for more content you can jump in the comments let me know what you thought about the video These two gpus and what kind of comparisons you'd like to see in the near future we also have float plan and patre on you can sign up to either one of those things you get access to our exclusive Discord server monthly live stream for members only uh behind the scenes content and Q&A stuff so a lot of cool things there check it out if you're interested but if not that's perfectly fine and I would like to thank you for watching this video I'm your host Steve see you again next [Music] time

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Length: 26min 3sec (1563 seconds)

Published: Wed Oct 04 2023

Reddit Comments

[u/baldersz]

tl;dw:

The RX 7900XTX is:

Raster:

• 3% faster on average @ 1080p
• 4% faster on average @ 1440p
• 7% faster on average @ 4K

Ray Tracing:

• 8% slower on average @ 1080p
• 9% slower on average @ 1440p
• 7% slower on average @ 4K

Upscaling + RT:

• 9% slower on average @ 1080p
• 11% slower on average @ 1440p
• 11% slower on average @ 4K

[u/Edgaras1103]

both gpus are good, just depends on what you value more and what kind of games you play more. Tho both gpus needs to be cheaper

[u/Competitive_Jump_765]

Could someone explain to me how has rtx 4080's rt ultra performance at 4k decreased 20% since last spring but 7900xtx's rt ultra performance has increased?

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Back in february 2023:

https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2627/bench/RT_2160p-color.png

https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2627/bench/Hogsmeade\_RT\_2160p-color.png

Vs now

https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2746/bench/Hogwarts_RT.png

[u/Estbarul]

Always take AMD vs NVIDIA comparisons with a grain of salt

[u/5RWill]

Seems like AMD is really not making much progress on optimization with 7000 series. Less historically speaking there has always been a lot of room for improvement with drivers and the 7000 series hasn’t changed all that much.

[u/Snobby_Grifter]

I'm looking at getting one of these two cards so I wish I could trust these benchmarks, because everything I've seen outside of HUB has AMD really far behind in RT. With FSR 3 being decent enough and the 7900xtx being significantly cheaper, RT is pretty much the only unknown.

[u/der_triad]

His remarks on power consumption are total crap. The 7900XTX consumes a lot more power at 1440P. For a lot of these titles it’s more than 100W difference between the 7900 XTX and 4080.

[u/BNSoul]

What about power consumption, the XTX wins in raster but at the cost of significant increased power consumption. On the other hand, the 4080 wins in ray tracing while still sipping less power than the XTX. In Ratchet and Clank and Cyberpunk 2.0 the XTX looks a couple of generations behind, let's see if that changes when Alan Wake and others show up with their heavy RT features.

On the other hand, Call of Duty could have been used to showcase a title specially optimized for the AMD architecture, whereas the new Counter Strike performs much better on Nvidia (also Fortnite DX11 shows Nvidia in need of improving their CPU overhead on DX12). All in all, at the end of the day it all comes down to the games you're interested in playing and what upscaling method looks better to you. I don't think you can go wrong with either of these cards, just that nowadays high end GPUs are a lot more expensive than they used to be.

[u/n19htmare]

Thing here is when you're spending sub $1000 to begin with, most will opt to pay the extra $100 or so for the feature set that Nvidia offers along with lower power consumption. The $100 is not a wash as you're not just spending more for no reason, you're getting something return for the +$100 that you will not get with the AMD card in the software stack.Particularly DLSS, where it performs AND looks better at lower settings than FSR at quality settings and considerably better performance at high RT workloads.

Of course if none of that matters and ALL you care about is running raster only at native, then you can save the $100, though if that was the case, you were likely considering AMD card to begin with because that crowed seems to be pretty vocal about their Raster Only preferences.