PT. 2 Minister Louis Farrakhan on Experimenting with Drugs, Music Career & President Frustration

Oh shade 45 first let me let me just say this is I just reached a pinnacle in my career being able to sit down with the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan and just someone that I grew up in Oakland California so and I grew up in the 70s so I grew up in the mind frame of empowerment you know faith resilience strength honor respectability and you have always signified all of those things all those attributes to us you know especially in times coming up in Oakland you know we face a lot of challenges you know sometimes you look for inspiration from different places so I can't tell you how many times just by listening to your works or listen until you speak especially even now being having worked on MTV for 15 years and being in radio for 20 years and being considered humbly a voice of this generation or pop culture you know sometimes you'd feel challenged and you need those things to kind of strengthen you and I'll look at a speech you made or something you said and and and it's always something I could take away from it that I keep me smiling and making me feel strong the next day so I always wanted to thank you for that absolutely absolutely you know I always wanted to know you know I always see the minister on the on the podium but who is he when he's not on that podium when he's not on that stage and he's not leading the people and in my research I found out we you you we have a lot in common in the fact that um you know you started off as a classically does classical instructed violinists right yeah how old were you when you first picked up the bat I I didn't pick it up my mom picked it up and put it in my hand mm-hmm she was a domestic worker and very talented seamstress and she put that violin in my hand put a clock on the table and had me practice for 15 minutes and then a half hour then an hour and she forced me to do this I didn't like playing the violin because they said it was a kind of [ __ ] instrument and who wants to look like a [ __ ] so I would put a tam on my head like Dizzy Gillespie and throw my violin up under my arm like it was a horn and walked through the black community on my way to my lessons but after a while I learned to love it and when I fell in love with the instrument mom didn't have to ask me to practice anymore I drove her crazy by playing and practicing four five six even when I married my dear wife I would go in a room and tell her sweetheart I won't be out for about eight or nine hours Wow and it's that discipline that I carried into Islam when I became a Muslim I just switched the discipline from the study of my instrument to the study of the word of God and that's why today I mean I don't have to think on what to say or try to make notes and whatnot because so much of it is in me from the discipline of study so I'm grateful for the music and I'm back at music and I can't music now right yes you know I have to laugh because I thought it was I was through with it forever cuz he asked me one day I wrote a play called Organa a Negro spelled backwards because that's what we were a people gone backwards so in this play I sing I was a ballad singer and I sing a song that I co-wrote with a brother called look at my chains and one day soon you'll hear it again and I also wrote a song after brother Malcolm's column in the Amsterdam news angry black man he wrote an article called a white man's heaven is a black man's hell and that's the way it was 60 years ago and unfortunately a white man's heaven is still a black man's hell and I wrote that song and went into RCA Victor studios in 1959 and put a soldier in the control room because the words were so hot I didn't want the man to start messing with the dials and that song became an underground hit in the 60s so one day I I don't know what caused me to bring my violin out to Chicago and after dinner Elijah Muhammad said you know play me something so I came to the table where he was sitting and I played and when I finished he said boy you really complete that thing and so a week later he summoned me to come back with my violin mm-hmm and he asked me to play again and after I played I saw his frown on his face he said brother isn't that the same song you prayed the last time you were here I said yes sir he said well don't you know something new so that meant to me after I figured it out get on back to your instrument so I went back at it and had played with the Symphony Orchestra in Chicago and Los Angeles and recorded the Mendelssohn Violin Concerto the Beethoven Violin Concerto and I made some songs back in the late 50s early 60s I won't billboard charts right I don't know that they made billboard but some of my Calypso songs since my mom and my father were from the Caribbean those songs on the Calypso hit parade in New York for about five years and I I was happy to give all of that up even though it was the only thing I knew and it's the thing that I really loved but since I was a little boy I've been in love with black people mm-hmm my mother trained me her husband my father was a follower of mr. Garvey my mother didn't join she was on the fringe but mr. Garvey was big in his representation of the struggle of our people and so when I heard a word that I felt could stimulate consciousness in our people and cause our people to reject the position of a free slave and arise to really become an independent nation I was willing to give up my music to pursue that so one day I was playing this Organa we played it at Boston Symphony Hall we did it at Carnegie Hall we Dylan did it at the Civic Center in Philadelphia and we were at the Tivoli Theatre in Chicago but the last time I did it was at the Dunbar High School in Chicago and little did I know there were two shows that day and mr. Mohammed came out to the last show I didn't know he was there so I was singing this song look at my chains and I played my violin and and then put the white man on trial and kind of give him a good whipping uh-huh and the judge sentenced him to death and I was very happy that that was an honest judge I wish we had more like that but anyway he sent for me and when I went to his home he he told me that he did not want me to play music anymore he said I want you to concentrate on the spiritual he said even though you are very good in what you do musically your greatest talent is in the spiritual would you give this up and concentrate on the spiritual and I said yes sir so going back now to 74 don't you know something new so he put me back in my music we have an album now that brother Kenny gamble gamble gamble and Huff Philadelphia yes he's the co-producer because he heard my arrangement of the Beethoven Violin Concerto and from 2002 I began working on this album and we just finished it thirteen years or ten years later Stevie Wonder is on the album Chaka Khan Denise Williams Kirk Whalum Damon Molly Snoop Dogg Rick Ross oh man we just have enough time you got Rick Ross on your album oh yeah like a rap album sound like a well you know what it's not a rap album but Snoop um he played a major part because we talked to snoop and we told Snoop Dogg in our little talk that young people are being misused all over the world by powerful governments that will take the lives of young people who loved their nation or loved their country and make them think that they're doing good but sending them to war on the basis of a lie all because they want the resources of a nation that they could not get to unless they made the leader of that nation a demon and demonized them then made the American soldier hate that person and then send them to war and so it was with that you thought about Libya to Libya yes I was very displeased with Hillary Clinton and President Bush I mean President Barack because in Africa Muammar Qaddafi was the most stabilizing force on the African continent he is a man that built his country with some of the I mean great industries that he put there had billions of dollars spent in the desert to go down and find water under the desert and brought that water up and the whole coastline of Libya became green because of water and then agriculture and he had oh I don't know how many tons of gold that he had he was debt-free old nobody nothing and for Braco or hillary or America or England or France to say that he had to go and for Barack to tell him he should step down when the man built the country and this country is damn near sixty trillion dollars in debt and you want to tell a man that's doing something that he should step down for what and then to have him depose and killed no I didn't like that at all Barack is my brother I love him but you know when you vote for a man for president you think he's the power mm-hmm but he's not the power the powers are those who drive the presidents and that's the shadow government that I've talked about in my 58 week sermon on the time and what must be done there's so much I want to say brother but I'll just leave it like that I'm back in the music but music has not softened me I don't want nobody to think that the minister gonna play some music and forget about the suffering of my people but have you heard of DJ Rogers DJ Rogers was he from yeah well I don't know exactly where is from but he's in California uh-huh and he was very very popular as a musician and he's a preacher now and I was playing my violin at the farm with my teacher at that time mr. Charles veal and he brought DJ Rodgers to the farm and when I started playing the violin we I was rehearsing for a program that would be played in Detroit DJ stopped me and said Minister I gotta tell you something even if you throw me out of your house I said brother I wouldn't throw you out of my house for telling me whenever's on your mind so he looked at me and he said brother God has given you a weapon and you are not using it and then he reminded me of David he said David was a musician David was a warrior David was a prophet David was a king and I said oh wow because the first time I was in the presence the physical presence of Elijah Mohammed I had dinner at his home and after dinner he came around to all the guests it's the first and only time I saw him do it and he shook their hands and when he got to me he shook my hand and pulled me close and said brother you remind me of David and then he went on I was a very new Muslim I didn't know that he knew that one day I would sit in his seat like he was a king and after Saul and he then before he left sat me in his seat in front of the congregation and so I've had a great life so far yeah but I don't want you to think that I came down from heaven mm-hmm I rose up from hell just like all of us can I want to ask you about that because you know you you have a way of being very relatable to some of them most edgiest artists we have coming out of hip-hop brother it's a Chief Keef or it's a little Dirk or King Louie you know some of these guys who've been in your presence and you know out of your presence these guys are each other's neck but in your presence you see these guys come together and squash beefs and exist in love you know and normally when that happens just because it's something you sent so feel about the person that that's the mediator in your life growing up as a teenager did you face a lot of tribulations and trials that are temptations you know did like these guys have well with some of those things you had to face to keep you on the right path like did you ever meet a crime oh no you never committed a crime wait wait wait I did do something what was that I was so small I was ten years old mm-hmm and our dear friend of mine had a beautiful pearl-handled knife and when he showed me the knife I liked the knife so much that I took the knife and put it in my pocket and the next day he started asking they called me Gina that that Jean did you see my knife I said no I didn't see no knife and I went back to my house I'm ten years old but stealing and lying beat me so bad till I never let that act that I did escape my consciousness and just I think it was maybe a month ago his brother the brother of the brother who I stole his knife we found each other in Washington DC or no Atlanta in Atlanta and I confessed to him that I had stolen his brother's knife and he looked at me I was telling the Muslims about it because there's something about lying and stealing that will lead you to greater crimes and my mother would beat the hell out of me over the lie mm-hmm she would beat me if I stole and she knew about it but beat me worse for lying so I've had that kind of conscience since I was 10 years old so I'm not I never got into no real crime but to me that was a crime against my conscience so when I said to the brother I said yeah man that's been on my mind and when I saw that you had that called and and wanted to see me the first thing that popped up in my mind was that knife that I stole from his brother I said yeah I want to see him so after I told him that I had stolen his brother's knife he said well don't feel bad gene because I got a confession to make you used to have a lot of milk in front of your door you know in those days they they would put the milk in a carriage and put it in front the door he said I was so hungry I stole your milk so that's as far as I suppose you go Oh God you know I did smoke some reefer oh okay I expect to hear that was it purple was it cookies no but when I did reefer was fifty cents for one reefer and I was in show business then and naturally I wanted to try what other musicians were trying so I smoked reefer smoked hash mm-hmm did some pills you know but you know what you did pills yeah I knew from that that wasn't for me because I never wanted to lose control mm-hmm of Who I am where I am so I decided none of that would be in my life now when I went to hear Elijah Muhammad I had a reef in my hatband and they searched you know but they didn't search my hatband so I got a wait with a reefer in the mosque but when I got converted I had to make up my mind but I smoked that one that night just for the record I don't have no reefer my hat clear to you all right all right that's good to know because you know I think for a lot of us I've always seen you on TV or on the screen or I've even heard you like audio recordings of you and I've always been curious to what brought a man to this path you know and all of us with flaws none of us are perfect of heard you say that you know and so I think that's part of what makes you so relatable to this hip-hop community and you're talking about someone like snoop Uzi was a good friend of mine and we we pretty much know his history and I just think it's amazing how you bring the best out of out of this culture people come from this culture you know and this culture is what has influenced us the most this generation in the past 30 30 or 40 years what was that that influenced you the most was it the word yes it was the word but it's also when you know yourself and you know that you are not perfect it would be the height of hypocrisy for me as a spiritual teacher to look down on my brother or sister because of some fault that they had the Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught us that we are the direct descendants of the creator and we are a part of the creator's nation so we are the righteous by nature but wicked by circumstance so when you grow up under a devil and he's your foster father then you can't claim to be holy none of us have grown up under righteousness though the Bible says we are born in sin and shaped in iniquity we've come up under the most murderous people on our planet we are the victims of kidnapping from Africa rape robbery murder then to think that they took away from us our name our language our culture our history our religion our God and turned us inside out so no matter how black you are you a white man on the inside what do I mean by that look at your actions if you can rob each other and don't feel nothing and you can kill one another and don't feel nothing then your humanity has been taken from us by a wicked deceiver it's not your sin it the sin of your enemy imposed on you so the Honorable Elijah Muhammad said that his teacher master fathered Muhammad said that we are other than ourselves I mean he was so sweet the way he said it you are other than yourself but what is yourself that you are other then you said yourself is a righteous person by nature but now we are not that so born in sin what does that mean sex is not sin its divinely ordained otherwise procreation would not have produced human beings for billions and trillions of years on our planet it's the misuse of sex that is sin so sin according to scripture is transgression of the law and being shaped in iniquity is because we had an iniquitous teacher who shaved us so you've got ten commandments what thou shalt not do everything that God said thou shalt not do the enemy says okay but then when you do it you imprison he's the biggest thief you have it stealing little stuff he steals countries you can't compete with them you kill a few he's calling the earth of two to three billion people as a policy of the United States government what can our little murder in the hood do to compete with a man who's killing people all over the earth so much so that's a big new Brzezinski the former I think he was the National Security Advisor under was it Clinton a car he said there was a time when it was easier to control a million people than to kill a million people but with the awakening of people all over the world because of a man called Steve Jobs and a man like Gates who gave us this tremendous thing called the iPhone and the iPad you are in touch instantaneously with people all over the world you can tap into libraries all over the world there is nothing of knowledge that's not at our fingertips because of what that man did so the media conglomerates are losing power over the masses that they've always controlled now who cares because the young people are not looking at no TV they hardly look at a listen to radio they everybody's head is bent at a 45-degree angle yeah on the phone on the phone yeah well now the big zbigniew brzezinski said it's easier to kill a million people than it is to control a million people and I don't know whether you've heard this before but I'm gonna call names because you know if you know what you know that say what you know and be willing to pay the price because there is a price for telling truth to power and wakin up the masses of people who've been put to sleep by this elite that control imagine imagine every time you get on the phone they're listening imagine every time you send the email they got it so if you mad with somebody well I hate that so-and-so he did such answer oh really they got it and if they want to create mischief between you and your party they'll get in between you and before you know it you fighting each other well imagine that a man has that kind of reach that he can listen into your phone gather all information about you so he knows when he sifts you what your weaknesses are and what your strengths are this man Elijah Muhammad called him a universal Snooper so he's always trying to find something negative about you and he'll wait until the right moment and he'll throw it on TV or tell you what you did that you didn't want nobody to know but his day is here now we got him we know his history from the time he was a thot we know what he was made of how he was made and the nature of him and we know the way he thinks and we know who made him like that so we're in a position now to lock him up because when a liar can't lie no more to deceive you he's finished when a trickster can't trick you no more cuz you know the way he plays his game then his game is over so the enemy's game is up white supremacy is finished the black man is rising humanity is rising his day to rule us with tricks and lies is over if we wake up and realize that we've been tricked as Malcolm said we've been hoodwinked we've been bamboozled it's time to wake up just trying to wake up you know when I listen to you speak and and you talk about white supremacy been on its way out and I look at the Nation of Islam and and how its expanded its reach you know it's not just about the black man's plight in America anymore correct home it like anybody can join the Nation it's about our plight all over the world okay but in truth my brother the Nation of Islam was started just for black people yeah and we started like Jesus when Jesus started teaching he told his followers go ye not in the way of the Gentiles or in the way of the Samaritans go ye to the lost sheep of the house of Israel ain't nobody on this earth more lost than the black man and woman of America and the Western Hemisphere and our people in Africa who have lived under colonialism while we have lived under slavery and colonialism in the Caribbean and a neo colonialism which is to rob you of the power of your mind to keep you like a top spinning so if we were really awake we would be unified you and I are brothers cut from the same cloth we're not only brothers because of color we're brothers because our origin is God himself so now the enemy has put us like dry bones in the valley we are all separated disconnected but today is our day to rise it's our day to come together in unity and power to stop the tyranny of our oppression you know but I want to finish that question because now jesus said go ye into all the world and preach this gospel to every nation kindred and tongue well that's what we're doing now in October 10 15 which is the 20th anniversary of the Million Man March I talked that day will be in French and Spanish and Arabic and Chinese because we're reaching for the whole world because everywhere you look in the world people are rising against injustice I hope I get a chance in this broadcast to talk about Henry Kissinger and his memo to government that became a policy mm-hmm do I have time you have time can we come can we come back to it yes okay yeah you have all the time that you a lot to me so as much time as you willing to give me they know brethren I want to bring it back domestically because just listen to you speaking about how divided we are you know and messaging that you're given to artists like snooping Jay Electronica and I'm sure Kanye and jay-z and you know little herb and Louie and Ice Cube and sugar and you know all the different people you spoken to it's hard you know I'm on a radio platform every day I'm on television and it's hard trying to sneak truth in you know and get folks to reflect on our reality it's a challenge you know you have artists like Kendrick Lamar who would make a statement in a song like the black of the berry where he says why would our weak with Trayvon Martin's laying in the street when gangbanging has me killing people who are blacker than me hypocrite you know that's how his song ends and then he would receive a lot of backlash that people will set us respectability politics what is your argument to that I mean that's one of the things I've said ever argue with truth mm-hmm then you make yourself a fool you might not like what he said but the reality is we March every time a white man kills a black person they've been doing that ever since we came to these shores but what hurts is when we can smoke each other over nothing and then go back and feel like we did something good we've become cold and heartless and naked of moral value when you can put your girls out because now you can't sling the dope like you're used to sling it so now you take these young girls and make them prostitutes I was in the hood man and and as I go and talk to our brothers who are in certain conditions certain sisters would come to me and beg me to get them out of the condition that they're in because our brothers have them prostituting themselves and then one young girl when I was out in the hood what some of the sisters said don't you want to go over and and get his autograph or shake his hand she said no I just want to be his be to you about you yeah she wanted to be a female dog for me as though that's something glorious see this is ignorant on steroids so our people need to be fixed that the problem is we can't go to Washington to charge the government and then turn a blind eye to what we're doing to one another and that means as I've been saying the war that we are fighting has to be on two fronts we can't go to Washington and say you all need treating us right which they're not and then deny that we're not treating each other right so rule of Giuliani you know I I didn't like certain words that he said so you know I called him a privilege you know he said that the president didn't love America yes he came to his the president's defeat yes because that's the president's problem he loves America so much that he will not act in a way to correct the wrong that send in America to hell what kind of man should I be if I see my country corrupt and rotten even when he tried to correct the wickedness of george w bush when he first became president they beat him up so bad that he he was over there apologizing for us he was trying to tell the world america has made mistakes and who will deny that you've been a liar and a thief well he won't say it like I say it he'll be diplomatic but I'm too damn old to want to be diplomatic liars and thieves are what they are that's what they've done all over the world he knows it and for him to be a modern Pharaoh see when you run for the presidency of United States you running for the position of the CEO of the United States of America which is the modern Egypt the modern Rome so he's the modern Pharaoh so even if he wants to do good he can't look at all the drones he's sending all over the world and violence can't can't accomplish anything the minute we rise up in the hood because of the evil that is perpetrated against us all they want to know is is this going to be peaceful asking us is it gonna be peaceful when everything they've gotten all over the world is through violence through bloodshed through war no these are hypocrites and I like to call them out let me ask you this unknown in the case of Ferguson what happened in Ferguson you-you-you called out to the President and Attorney General Eric Holder and said you have to stop these wicked folks from killing our black and brown youth because this won't hold no more what-what would you how would you propose that they do it through is it the policy or what type of infrastructure could they create to - how can they reverse that wickedness if you were president what would you how would you do it wouldn't that be great I wouldn't want to be president of this mm-hmm this is why God has come to take this out this is an evil world that we are living in this is not the world that Jesus was calling us toward he said My Kingdom is not of this world and in the book of James I said the love of this world is enmity or hatred with God then Jesus said you can't love or serve two masters you gotta love one and hate the other hate is not bad if you hate what God hates but the sad thing is if you hate what God loves and Jesus was hated without a cause that's why it's difficult for people to walk with farrakhan and say yeah I like him I like him a lot but bring him around the back door at midnight because I might lose my job if I so she ate with Farrakhan I don't have AIDS I'm not a diseased man but what I do have is knowledge truth that will make you stand up like a man and like a woman and as long as you lay down do you have children brother of a 16 year old daughter may God bless you and bless her thank you what kind of world is she growing up in what kind of man would you want to marry your daughter when you come out of the streets you don't have no desire to do nothing but hustle women who are making money what kind of man will young girls have when they are in college and our brothers are in the street see this is social engineering now that's being done by those in high places and that's why Paul said we war not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers and the rulers of the darkness of this world and spiritual wickedness in high places this is what is going on now little white people are not doing the things to us that cause us to be in the condition this comes from way up can I give you an example please do when I was a little boy growing up in Boston Massachusetts there were factories in the inner cities all over America where unskilled labor could have a job in a factory I don't care what kind of money they made they brought that home and they could take care of their wives and their children and every morning I would see a black man leaving his home with his lunch pail going to work 40 years ago I was overseas and when I came back I read in the paper that the social scientists and others were saying there's no need to invest in the inner cities because the inner cities are about to explode so instead of people bringing money into the inner cities the money was taken out the factories closed and unskilled labor had no job so if we were not entrepreneurial to set up something that we could do to earn a dollar to feed our family now the social engineering starts taking place you break down the family because after that the mothers that were on welfare fathers she had to lie and say there was no man living in the house so she could collect her check while the man had no job and so she was on welfare or she went to school and got a job black women can get jobs today where a black man can't get a job you could be very talented very brilliant just come out of Harvard or Howard and you can't get a job but your woman got the job so when your woman got more money than you her voice is not female a lot of times cuz now you can't pay the bills cuz you got no money so when you don't have any money that a man should have to feed his family and take care of his children then the woman becomes the breadwinner and you live in there not making no bread so what are you good for they don't need you for sex they buy machines for that or you turn out on the down-low because the woman is so strong she make you look like a punk before you become one excuse me but as real as real social engineering then here comes Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan wants to fight the Communists in Central America he comes to Congress Congress won't give him the money he goes to King Fahd of Arabia he gives him 10 million that's not enough so enter the CIA and the drug trade drugs coming from Central and South America into California where crack cocaine now becomes the craze in the meantime back in Washington while we were having the Million Man March 20 years ago they were in Congress setting the limits on powdered cocaine as opposed to crack cocaine so now they snatch our brothers and sisters up we in jail with a felony check how these enemies have worked us we go into prison then we got a job in prison some of us working for IBM some of us working for Motorola some of us working for these high tech places learning how to do things in prison but when you get out you're a felon now you can't even use what you learned in prison so you're in right back up in prison and the Thirteenth Amendment is in full force once you are a criminal you become a slave again that's what this thing is all about so now the drugs are in the community Rick Ross bless his heart he said I you know I didn't know that I was working for the government that the government was the one supplying me with the drugs as I was making a million dollars a day well wouldn't that make you feel pretty good if you were making a million dollars a day Frank Lucas he was on the the heroin tip yeah and he was bringing in what pure heroin how many people were dying the moment you and I start becoming conscious in the sixties Frank Lucas was bringing in heroin in the eighties Rick Ross bringing in crack cocaine and now the gang warfare the Crips the Bloods then it spreads from the west coast to the East Coast and who's filling the jail's it's you and me 45 you

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