Priscilla Shirer: Learn How to Recognize God's Voice | FULL TEACHING | Praise on TBN

so really the first step especially if you grew  up in an environment where this concept is sort of   um unique and different and  new for you it's to believe   that as a as a privilege of being a son or  a daughter you can hear from god it is the   deception of the enemy to cause us to think we  have to have a seminary degree we have to have   some special hotline connection with god like  somebody we may admire that we as regular men   and women can't hear from god that's what the  enemy wants you to think he doesn't want you   to know it's your birthright and so believing  that you can is the first step to hearing god praise comes to you today right here in beautiful  southern california our guests are jerry and   priscilla shire priscilla um our gift offered this  month in part is your book discerning the voice   of god today we're going to unpack that so  why is this subject matter something that is   really important it is important because this  facet of our faith is what separates our faith   from every other so-called faith on the face  of the earth okay that our god lives he's alive   and he speaks to us we have an actual relationship  with him and that that's so casually thrown around   this whole relationship thing but what good is  any relationship if nobody's talking to each other   if there's no communication if there's not um  a connectedness that is ongoing and continual   so this issue of discerning the voice of god  first of all believing that he does speak   but second of all trusting in the fact that as  his kids we have the privilege to actually discern   and just have a distinction of his voice between  all the other voices that also want to get a word   in edgewise that's something that really can  change and transform the trajectory of your   entire christian experience okay let's let's  lay a little bit of the ground rule in your   in your world where you're our guest today  you and jerry uh jerry jump in anytime you   want to you're much bigger than i am you  can jump in any time you want yeah and   you know you're a miracle worker that you got him  on the show jerry doesn't want my buddy come on we're going to discern the voice of god  let me ask you a question in the priscilla   jerry world yeah uh does god speak audibly does  he only speak through his word does he speak   how how what are the different ways that  you certainly know of that god speaks to you   um i've never heard the audible voice of god babe  have you missed something i have not no no not yet   but i think there is something internal yeah in  you that you that you feel the presence of god   and it lines up with scripture which confirms  okay this is what i'm hearing that's right so   the holy spirit of god illumines scripture the  book is alive and he causes the the old presets   of scripture to have a now-ness and a newness  that applies and intersects with our personal   experience so as jerry mentioned the holy spirit  in us confirms and corroborates and connects with   the the word of god and causes it to intersect  with our experience so that that verse that has   something to do with david and goliath all of  a sudden it's not about david and goliath it   actually applies to what you're facing right then  in your life and you understand it as a directive   straight straight from god and then there's the  conviction you know the conviction of the holy   spirit that that green light of ease and peace  that says go that that yellow light of warning   and uneasiness that says hold up a minute till  you get clarity and then that red light that is a   straight up no there's no peace there's confusion  there's dissension that's the holy spirit's way of   telling you no don't go there there's a better  yes for you if you'll just wait and be patient   have you ever heard the still small voice of the  lord in a phrase and an impression what describes   some of what is in discerning the voice of god  how how the lord speaks or how this conversation   unfolds with you yes well most of the time most of  the time god speaks to me through his word it is   exactly what i described it is reading through a  portion of scripture and on that day it's like the   holy spirit has taken out a highlighter and has  highlighted this verse you have seen a million   times before but on that day it leaps up off the  page and it grips you that's the only way i can   really describe it is that it grips you in the  depths of your soul and causes you to pause for   a moment because it seems to be literally speaking  to something that's happening in your life   most of the time that is the voice of god we have  discounted i think the power of scripture because   if we say we want to hear from god and we never  actually read the love letter that he wrote to us   we don't want to really hear from god and we  rarely will because the canon of scripture is not   only it not only provides the boundary into which  everything god says to us will fall because he'll   never say anything that manipulates the scriptures  or his character as revealed in the scriptures   so it not only gives us the boundary but it also  provides for us the number one mechanism through   which we have the privilege to hear him in the  first place beautiful you know we're discussing uh   with priscilla shire and and uh her not often seen  husband jerry uh uh jerry thank you for being on   by the way give me a little there you go all right  i'm glad you're here all right now um the um our   part of our love gift uh monthly love offer  monthly gift offer here uh this month in march   is your book discerning the voice of god  let me let me tell you um a little bit about   the way a i believe the way the lord has  communicated to me i have been sitting   or standing in a place before and from one moment  to the next uh you know i i hate to be so secular   but remember that remember that that moment in  on tv back when we were kids do you remember   remember um the i dream of genie where she'd  kind of do like that you know totally okay   so uh i have from one moment to the next i mean  this is like one heartbeat to the next heartbeat   i'm remembering some kind of conversation that was  a longer conversation for instance and i felt like   that was something that got communicated to me a  big subject matter communicated to me in a blink   yeah so what the voice of the lord sometimes  feels like to me is like i'm remembering a   conversation not like i'm talking and and going  hello lord and he says well hello matthew it's   nice to have you here with me today yeah it's  been you know okay so i've never had any kind of   an experience like that at all every time i felt  like volumes of information get communicated in a   in a snap of a finger and then it just feels  like you're remembering when we're done with this   conversation today and we're out of this studio  we'll be able to remember this conversation and   we will be able to ultimately think back on it  that's that is a way the lord has communicated   i have heard the still small voice say one word  to me or two words one time hillsong channel   six months later the hillsong channel was  on the air yeah okay uh we're sitting here   today lori and i um you know have often heard  the story but just just because of what we're   talking about and i wanted to set a little bit  of the stage and by the way what a thrill to   have you guys seriously i mean it's been i know  it's like i've known your parents and i was like   what's the matter with us man i mean so we met  actually at t.d jake's church not long ago he   sat behind us and made us laugh through the whole  i'm sorry for that i was cutting up and the kids   thank you for sharing thank you for that because  they were like okay when is this going to be over you realize you're making fun of a td jake service  that's okay it was a fantastic service with kids   in church for three hours they were yeah they  were glad matt was sitting uncle matt was like   that's right and just so that they wouldn't  freak out i gave him a little money   kind of bribing them okay anyway uh so one okay so one of the the things that i think  is pretty interesting about discerning the   voice of god again it's our love gift uh this  month gift offer this month is my mom and dad   were working for somebody else in the 60s it  was a tv station and after one very successful   night they were leaving the parking lot and the  lord said i've released you from your work here   now my parents believe it was almost like one of  these moments where you look in the back seat make   sure there's somebody not in the backseat but  they were in their car and my dad didn't recall   it as being an audible voice but it might as  well have been because he looked at my mom   and said you're not going to believe what the lord  just said to me and she said no i will he said the   same thing to me he's released us from our work  here very very unique thing they quit that job   i'm 11 years old my dad doesn't go to work anymore  this is you know here in southern california in   the early 70s and then a few months later praying  the lord said had to say these words somehow   because my dad heard call angel lirima it was a  gentleman that owned a tv station here in socal   he called and he said to he said to angel  he said i'm just calling you today checking   on your channel and there was a long pause on  the phone paul i just came from the board room   we just had a board meeting just now we just  voted to sell this channel did you know that   and he said no sir i didn't know that but based  on that i'd like to come see you by the end of   that day there was a deal worked out which was  the birth of tbn which was this channel here in   los angeles channel 40. channels actually changed  now because of digital but that was channel 40   back in the day so here's the here's the thing  we're sitting here today because of a couple of   moments that the lord was wanting to communicate  to someone to see if they would respond to it okay   so now 40 something years later we're sitting  here there's 31 television networks on the air in   13 or 14 different languages and we are literally  ultimately uh now communicating to the globe as   we're sitting here okay so if everyone can realize  it's kind of an important subject that we're   talking about okay okay and so if everybody  moved on something that god spoke to them   there it is you know take another generation  what would that become what exactly god had done   if we would have obeyed it and we and we've had  that we've had that in all i'm thinking about when   we first got married babe where you've had these  these moments where like you said there is almost   like a huge conversation that has already happened  and the wealth of it down it just downloads to you   in an instant um and one of those things happened  when we were married for our very first year of   marriage very very sure what happened we were  at a family reunion on my father's side of the   family and uh i remember one of my cousins said  jerry do you realize that if you and priscilla   don't have any boys the shiny name will die with  you i'm like and i looked around i'm like wow   and at that moment i felt like laura said to  me jerry you have nothing but boys wow and so i   looked at priscilla and i told her what i said you  have nothing but boys we have nothing but boys and   i remember when our first son was born jackson a  boy uh the second son jerry junior a boy and it   was so funny the third child everybody you know oh  the way she's carrying it it's a girl that it's a   girl i'm like no it's not it's a boy and everybody  asked me how confident was i that i knew that it   was a boy wow and i told him years ago the lord  told me i had nothing but boys because what he's   doing is starting a new generation wow of shire  men wow and i remember being in the delivery room   and uh uh when when when jude was coming out  and his head was out uh i said oh i bet you a   thousand dollars that's a boy the doctor said we  haven't seen everything yet i said if that's a   girl she's going to be with me for the rest of her  life that's a boy but you know what some of the   details of that that you have to know is that some  of the well most of the men in jerry's legacy did   not live well they didn't honor god they didn't  stay with their wives they didn't honor their kids   nothing and so in that moment where he felt like  the lord said that to him he really felt like   the lord was saying i'm doing this on purpose  i'm going to generation i'm going to change   what it means to be a shire man wow through  this legacy and he looked at me just barely   into our first year of marriage and said we're  going to have boys god's doing this on purpose   and here we are 18 years later with our three boys  and so we have high expectations that god's got a   plan for that she does um and you don't have  any plan for any more kids we actually do not you know she always says she always says  from this stage our youngest is jude   because that's the closest she can get  the revelation because it is finished   it is finished that's the  end of the line right there oh gosh okay so start us out on um  because i know so many people wonder oh   you know how can i hear god's voice for  ourselves and i can't trust it or trust or   trust it how can i trust god's voice when i do  hear it is that really him is it me is it yeah   well let me let me just start by putting  a little grace over this entire situation   the reality is that sometimes you do not know  until hindsight that what you heard was the   voice of god there you go and the reality is that  there is grace and mercy to cover our missteps and   that the lord in his graciousness toward us his  knowledge of our frailty and our humanity for the   willing heart who desires to do his will even  when we make mistakes he allows them to become   our greatest teachers for hearing him correctly in  the future he does not hold it against us because   we've misstepped along the way so um just grace  for those of us yes who have ever heard god wrong   and um wish we could get it get it right one  of the people i sort of interviewed when i was   first writing that book many you know over a  decade ago uh now i interviewed henry blackaby   who wrote experience in god yes and i you know  had my notebook out my pen i was going to take   a seminary class from henry you know and i  said how do you know when you're hearing god   and he gave me lots of incredible answers to  that question but really he summed it up this way   he said the more you know god  the more clearly you can hear god   there was really nothing for me to  write down because it boiled down to   priscilla it's simple he said the more you  know him the more clearly you can hear him   so the reason why we go to the scriptures the  reason why we have quiet time the reason why we   fellowship with other believers who are going to  help us remain encouraged in our faith is because   we're just trying to get to know god when you  know his character when you know um the nuances   of what he does say and what he wouldn't say  because of how he spoke to our forefathers   because of how he handled circumstances previously  with people in the scriptures who were going   through some of the same scenarios we're going  through now when you see his personality and his   character then you know when you hear the voice of  fear uh that don't sound like my god when you hear   the voice of your ego pride jealousy divisiveness  stepping in all that stuff that in our flesh is   also trying to get a word in edgewise we can  quickly quickly pinpoint the voice of a stranger   because if we know god the more clearly we can  discern and just divide his voice from a stranger   okay now you talked about seeking god's provision  and his blessings on our life and then knowing who   what his character is talk about that because i  found that fascinating yes so god's blessing um   and i believe his provisions are a corroboration  of his word to us so in other words   while in the old testament there were external  means as a primary way for folks to hear god   in the new testament and now in this time frame  as well we have something they didn't have we   have the holy spirit so the primary way he is  speak to us that he speaks to us has changed   but his goal hasn't his goal is still for his  kids to hear his voice so he's chosen the holy   spirit of god to be the the way that we uh hear  and know what it is that his will is for our life   but he still uses external means his provision his  blessings his aligning of providence some people   would call it luck or coincidence no it's the  aligning of god's handiwork in our life to confirm   that what we're sensing on the inside is indeed  how he's aligning uh the direction for our life   to just fb meyer is a great theologian put it  this way when a big 747 is getting ready to land   on a runway well well the plane better not just be  looking for one light somewhere to land better not   just look for two lights somewhere to land there  better be several lights that are that are lining   a runway so that that 747 knows exactly where  land the bigger the decision that you have to make   the more you need to trust in the mercy of god's  external confirmation that aligns for you where   to land that plane in your life um and and so  that's important that we have external blessings   provision coincidence that really shows  us the sovereignty of god aligning   i'll give you an example i was just telling  you guys before we started um aaron that i   that i started to to look at this discerning  the voice of god book the material that we've   been privileged to be able to develop through the  years on the topic and i just started you know how   the lord puts layers of maturity on a message  the more you grow in him aren't we so grateful   that he lets us grow and mature and learn  from our mistakes and i thought i was just   starting to feel like you know it might be time  especially with the video series that we've done   in regards to this it was taped 11 years  ago so it kind of looks dated now and   i thought we might need to do something  different with that at some point   this was going to be my lazy year where i just  kind of sat down and didn't write too much   but at the same time i started to sense that on  the inside maybe we need to do that at some point   one of my publishers called to say you know let's  redo the discerning the voice of god bible study   then the publisher of this particular book called  and said hey you know what maybe we're going to   put a re-face this and go ahead and freshen up the  material here and the new insights that the lord   has given you so there were two things two lights  there that kind of corroborated what i was already   sensing on the inside and then matt lloyd crouch  called and said you know what priscilla we think   that we would love to offer this to to people who  want to know how to discern god's leading that   third light wow was the confirmation for me that  what it was i was sensing on the inside the lord   was very clear clearly giving me a light bulb to  let me know this would be his direction for me   which ultimately means that discerning the  voice of god is a is on the heart of god okay   so i didn't call your publisher your publisher  didn't call us we didn't you know yeah there was   no pr yeah there was no person kind of trying  to stir that you know soup there and so this   is uh the month of march it is our gift offer  this month and what a great story to be able to   basically hold this book and let you know that we  want this coming into your home and that's why it   is chosen that's why we have jerry and priscilla  here and we're going to be unpacking this let me   let me tell you what the kindergarten course  to hearing and discerning the voice of god is   you know what the dummies yeah the for for  the the kindergarten entry-level person   a number of years ago when laws were different today if we're hiring somebody here at trinity  broadcasting we can say by the way your you   know tbn as a christian organization might have  noticed um are you a christian we can say that   that is but there if you wind the hands of  clock back about 30 years you couldn't say that   you couldn't make somebody tell you whether they  were a christian or not in in the application   process there's a different rules well my dad when  he in the early days somebody called and trinity   broadcasting is you know under the authorization  of the federal communications commission we have   employees here that make sure we stay in tune  with those policies and procedures and rules and   all that kind of stuff we have different sets of  employees that do lighting and sound and this and   that but my dad was of course the general manager  and and somebody called and my dad's on the phone   uh mr crouch you have to be a christian to work at  your channel he had the phone in his hand he went and wanted to say yes and the  discerning voice of god at that point   was literally he couldn't say the word yes so he  went yeah and tried to say yes again and couldn't   and he said hold second put the call on hold and  said you know just kind of went what you know lord   and he clicked the button back and went well  sir i suppose you don't have to be a christian   to work at our channel but you might want to  be you know much like if you were applying   for a spanish language channel you might want to  know how to speak spanish yeah and the guy went   hm well that makes a lot of sense okay i  get that oh by the way if he'd have said   yes i was going to file uh you know against your  license at the federal communications commission   so my dad's you know hit over the head with a  ball-peen hammer from the lord that moment was   that was god having a conversation by literally  not allowing him to make a mistake and see here's   the thing that i love about this story about  your dad and the story about your parents   at the very beginning of this what i love  is their willingness to not push past those   moments of restraint when they sense the cat  that that warning that conviction to not put   the foot call on hold but then pick it back up  only to get that yes out that they wanted that   he wanted to get out and that's the problem with  most of us that rebellious streak that we all have   that when we sense that conviction that warning  don't say that to your spouse not not right now   that's not the time to say that to your spouse  you had to say the spouse thing the thing is you   know when you're in heated fellowship with your  spouse and you you know sometimes as wives we   get ready because we know what we're going to see  it's going to shut this whole thing down and we're   going to win this battle we plan to win the battle  and then we feel that warning that conviction   that's not that's not going to be healthy for  the the longevity of your marriage the question   is when we sense that will we push past it and  say what we want to say anyway yeah or will we   submit to the leadership of the holy spirit and  the moment it might seem a little bit limited   yeah it might seem like you're limited you're  losing but really the outcome of obedience is   always freedom and victory yes and it's hard to  see that from this perspective but if you trust   god if we trust god then when we sense that  conviction of the holy spirit to not say this   do not buy this to not eat all of this to restrain  ourselves it's because there's freedom and victory   that he's trying to lead us to okay so i'm going  to personally hold you to that when the butter   cake is is served a little bit later so there's  this thing called butter cake that both of you so when it comes to this kind of discerning the  voice of god we're unpacking this all hour with   jerry and priscilla shire um i have a question  uh let me let me just let me let me say this one   thing when it pertains because i want to jump  off of something you're saying about marriage   um i was running one day and the lord said i  didn't call you seem to be pointing at me okay   this is like a daydream this isn't like you know  i mean it's like you're just trying not to sound   weird i'm not sounding weird because i don't want  to sound weird uh but it felt like the lord was   pointing at me with one finger you know i didn't  call you i called you and then he had two fingers   pointing and lori was next to me in this kind  of daydream yeah i knew i was running and i was   on the side of the road and all that came home  and told her and and let me tell you something   that got more important the years later that this  happened 20 years ago because i've always loved   her but the idea that he didn't call me he called  me i didn't call you i called you and she's there   so i wouldn't be the me that god sees without her  and so that's a good man right there okay girl   so ultimately i have to remind him of that on it  okay no honestly she doesn't i've always known   that you know so let me tell you bickering in  marriage pales to comparison of just making this   one statement if the lord said that to me and he  did or i felt you know again it it wasn't this   conversation then if i divorced her i wouldn't be  divorcing her i'd be divorcing my destiny yeah now   when in in light of that who cares you know yeah  what she looks like what kind of what kind of kind yeah let's go there immediately so so the i  the idea that um you know the voice of the   lord changed my dynamic about what marriage was  20 years ago or so i'm different yeah you know   i'm different the voice why is it important to  hear god because it changes you precisely change   me that's right it does change you you know what  it does you know what it does yeah it ruins you   for church as usual oh hey ruins you yeah that  regular old mundane christian rediverse a day to   keep the devil away sit in church go because my  mama went my grandmother went this is what we do   all of that goes away okay because you're  hungering for what you know you've experienced   before actually sensing the voice of god his  presence near you listen sometimes hearing   god is less about having a specific word and  more about just a nearness of his presence   just knowing that he's near i'm talking about  where your physical body responds to the presence   of god there are times when you know he's near  because he's only present there are times where   he manifests himself in a way where the the hair  on the back of your neck standing kind of fail   goosebumps yes and in those moments once you start  sensing the nearness of god in that way you're   ruined for all just doing stuff because it's what  you're supposed to be doing and you want more   of that and i think what a lot of people need to  understand and he also speaks through his silence   very much so you know i'm not saying anything   you know think about the years in the  world where you know from the old to   new testament he was just silent yeah and his  silence means stay still don't move i got you   yeah does somebody your size ever feel goose  bumps does that ever happen to you ever i it hey yeah how much time we have left in the show  they're needing to get out okay and by the way   uh we're gonna unpack this so get right back  into the subject it's an important subject matter   even the idea well the publisher and all that kind  of stuff this is a this is on the heart of god   right now this is the people being dissatisfied  with the mundane yeah we are wanting to hear god's   voice wanting to know you know i don't i mean you  know not what to to eat today yeah necessarily   but needing to know to help their kids yeah to  their jobs their you know in every area of your   life i believe god is speaking or wants to speak  or wants to have a say yes and i want to say too   that just that sense of dissatisfaction that  that someone may be feeling that we all feel   when we're going to be launched into the next  level in our relationship with god sometimes   that dissatisfaction makes us so upset and  so frustrated because we just want to know   the answer we want to get to the answer but the  dissatisfaction itself is a sign of god's spirit   working with this absolutely and the satisfaction  the journey that it is going to lead you on   the lessons that are meant to be learned they're  going to be learned because the dissatisfaction   sent you on a journey the journey itself is not a  waste of time discerning the voice of god is never   something you're going to arrive at it is never  something you're going to be successful at it   is going to be a journey with god as you walk in  the rhythms of grace you will be on your deathbed   still wanting to know whether or not you have  clearly heard the voice of god because we are   human wow he's mysterious he is god and aren't  we glad that he's not just a big version of us   i don't want god to just be a big me i want  god to be so far beyond my imagination that   i can never arrive at the knowledge of him that  i have to constantly and consistently be growing   well because it takes faith that's how it takes  faith okay you know what that that's why i always   say if we step out in faith kind of no matter  what it is but if we walk in faith how can we ever   fail in that that's right that's right if we're  believing that we're doing what god's called us   in our yeah yeah even when we're when we're unsure  and we're unsteady in in the book i list several   of these but i'll tell you just a couple of them  i believe that he allows us to have the mercy of   confirmation i call them the five m's of hearing  god when you sense that god is imparting something   upon you um impressing conviction um uh just a  a push towards something or away from something   ask him for the mercy of confirmation he knows  you're just a human he knows that you need to make   sure that his fingerprints are on this assignment  before you move forward i believe that he honors   the sincere request of his children when they say  lord would you just do something to confirm not   not because it's the primary way you speak i think  you're speaking would you confirm that by some   external means to point me in the right direction  and then one of the other m's is the ministry of   eli do you remember the little boy samuel he had  an older wiser guy in his life named eli who was   the one who pointed out to him that the voice  you're hearing is the voice of god you need to   have a wiser more mature believer in your life who  you admire not the car they drive the house they   live on live in the success that they've achieved  but the ongoing conversational relationship   they have with god the victory you've seen them  experience in your life you go to them and you say   here's what i think the lord is saying would you  pray through this with me listen i've got those   people in my life the majority of the things that  we have done in ministry as a couple we have not   done i'm talking about big things that would have  marked our lives in our children's lives we have   not done before we have called people that we are  submitted to their authority asked them would they   pray through and give us their wise counsel before  we took a step so we've submitted ourselves to the   ministry of eli we've got elise in our life okay  we're talking about discerning the voice of god   we're going to be talking about unpacking it with  jerry and priscilla all hour long uh this book   why don't you uh whine back and go back to the  original moment that you started thinking about   writing this book what was happening in your  life what was going on how did this subject   matter start forming books for most people are  painful to write except max potato who says it's and so most of us would would i've never  written a book probably won't but the idea   it would be painful because it's hard for me  to write a letter so um this this had to be   a period of light in your life where you were  going to drill down you were going to get into   this why this book why this subject matter  when you wrote it specifically because of   what your wife described a few moments ago as a  dissatisfaction with my christian life the way   it was wow i grew up in a incredible wonderful  spirit-filled environment where my father who   started the church that i still attend to this day  when i was one year old they have been faithfully   pastoring for 40 years and if anybody can  preach the word of god it is tony evans   he is one of the most gifted communicators  of god's word and i was talking to your wife   earlier today and telling her that the reality is  i had parents that lived the thing i'm so grateful   integrity and character that's what my parents had  and so i gleaned so much of what the word of god   was who it described god to be what he did in the  old testament in the new testament i knew all that   but felt dissatisfied because if he did that for  them then why am i not experiencing that for me   there was an unrest in my heart i wanted more  i wanted to see and experience this god of the   bible and it is that dissatisfaction that sent  me on a just a personal journey that connected   me with people who were in different streams  of the faith and instead of closing them out   i invited in what it is that god was teaching  them and the ways that he had demonstrated himself   to them and by just listening and gleaning and  inviting from the breadth of the body of christ   i began to realize that there is so much more than  our little box of our little stream presents to us   that there is more that can be that doesn't take  away or water down what we have but on the firm   foundation of where that god has already laid in  our life there are deeper depths and there are   higher heights and so i just started walking the  journey and i'm so grateful to the lord because he   um honored my quest by again not allowing me to be  at a place where i've arrived i'm in a place right   now here i am at i wrote that book i think when i  was 31 or 32 here i am at 42 years old and i'm at   a place right now where i'm revisiting this whole  concept because i'm needing to say lord i'm at a   place right now where i feel like you're silent  or either my heart's hardened and i'm not hearing   so once again lord i need to retrain my spiritual  ears i'm praying and saying lord would you   heighten my spiritual senses you know just like  we have five physical senses we've got spiritual   sentence lord sen says lord i need my radar to  be up so that i can detect your presence and   hear your voice and i'm gonna need you to make my  detectors sensitive again lord and i'm entrusting   that to your spirit so it's an ongoing um thing  that is born out of those moments of unrest in   our life with the lord the greatest gift ever it's  a greatest gift it means there's a new level he   wants to take you to i've been trying to keep  myself from getting frustrated by those moments   right and just go with god you know so then then  at some point though how is your life different   how is your life better after you hit that  dissatisfaction point started writing this book   what has changed in the 10 years for you  personally because there could be somebody   viewing going you know this is really too deep of  a subject for me you know i got kids to raise and   i got two jobs and i got this and that i don't  have time to put into okay how can we make sure   everyone understands this book the contents of  this book the subject matter of hearing god's   voice is something that will change their life  so take your own journey talk to us about that   if we feel like our life is too big and too  filled with the busyness of kids or business   or life right now to be concerned about  this topic that just seems so theological   theoretical and sort of out there then those  very reasons are the reasons why more than   anything you need to discern the voice of  god okay all the things that you love the   most your children your spouse your business your  ministry all the things that are closest to you   without guidance uh and leading from the holy  spirit without knowing what it is that god wants   you to do you will not be able to handle those  things i won't be able to handle those things   correctly we'll miss out on some of the  biggest gifts and biggest surprises and   biggest miracles that he wants to present to  us because most of those hinge on us hearing   a word and having faith enough to step out on the  journey just like your parents got it let me tell   you what i've gained here's what i've gained  what i've gained is that now at 42 years old   and i say this i say this uh you know i'm stepping  carefully when i say it but at 42 years old there   are very few things that the lord could ask me to  do that i would not quickly and immediately step   out to do them because i have had i have such a  track record with god now even with my mistakes   but i have such a track record with god now  and i think my husband can attest to this   but i'm one of those people that if i sense the  holy spirit is calling me to do something because   of the track record of seeing his faithfulness  time and time again step in for me when i stepped   off what i thought was a ledge and it didn't  look like it was good but i had a word from   the lord and it was confirmed in his word and by  leadership in my life so i just went ahead and   i did it anyway and i watched him catch me and i  watched him take me to a place i never could have   gotten in my own giftings or my own talent or  my own skill you watch him do that enough times   you get to the place that when god asks you to do  it again you you can't wait to step off the ledge   yeah because you need that another word let's go  i'm so excited to see what's next in the journey   so i get excited now about hearing a word from god  i don't allow myself to become discouraged when i   feel like he's silent i assume that that means the  last word i had stay stay with the last word stay   right there obedient to the do me a favor uh just  uh let's let's for somebody that still is going   yeah that's good for you folks that are on  television right you don't know what it's   like out here you know and all this and  and you know you're all up there in your   suit and you're all looking good and smelling  good and all that kind of stuff it's really   rough out here think of the people in you know  foreign you know parts of the world of indonesia   and and and africa that are watching tonight  they're just they're struggling to get by okay think of think of them in in regard to that  and if you would look at them and maybe pray   for them for so long let me just say this first  of all and i want to talk to those people please   i'm the youngest of three grew  up in a single parent home   my mother had to sat groceries work  for tips only to put food on the table   but i remember nights i couldn't sleep  and get up i saw her praying on her knees   for her it was how bad she wanted it i tell  people all the time how the prayers of one   woman change the entire generation wow so yeah  and so god speaks to us no matter what ailments   we have no matter how devastating those seasons  of life are where we feel like we are completely   overwhelmed we don't have what it's going to take  to sustain our current needs and we're wondering   if god hears we're wondering  whether or not our prayers   matter we're wondering whether or not he is  ever going to speak into and change and alter   our circumstances but one of the greatest gifts  i think from scripture is not his voice it's not   what he can give us it's just him yeah seek him  he will disclose more and more to you in terms   of his will his plans for your life his gifts his  blessings those are a benefit of just having him   and you need to know that he'll never leave you he  will never forsake you no matter how devastating   things might become and i know there are some very  real practical needs and so i want to pray for   those right now i want to pray that the lord will  manifest himself to you in a tangible way that   will keep you hope filled encouraged and excited  to continue your relationship with the lord   uh despite external circumstances lord jesus i  pray for my sister and brothers all around the   world i'm asking right now in jesus name that  you would bring encouragement you would replace   discouragement with encouragement lord i'm going  to ask right now in jesus name that you would   build up somebody's faith today by manifesting  yourself in their life lord i'm asking you to   speak to them a still small voice lord or let the  scriptures fall open to a page of of your word   lord that is so evidently so clearly for them that  they will never doubt again that they have not   heard from you and experienced you lord i'm asking  that the church they attend would be on fire with   your spirit that every time they and the others  that go there would walk through the door they   would have a tangible sense of your presence with  them lord i pray that your word would be alive   i pray that the assignment of the enemy against  them against their children against their spouses   lord that those assignments would be canceled and  that they would see those assignments replaced by   your grace your love and your mercy washing over  them and their experience lord meet us speak to   us lord we need a word from you and so we ask  lord that you would bring uh your word to your   people and speak clearly so that we can hear thank  you lift the veil from our eyes thank you lord   cause the veil that is over our ears the  hardness of our heart lord to be softened and   to be removed so that we have tender sensors that  are able to detect your presence we need you lord   and so we ask you to speak it is in jesus  name that we pray amen amen beautiful wow   wow i love what you said about your mama you  know the need for god so many of us we need   something new we need god and and i think that  dissatisfaction leads us to a place of seeking   you know and i think being a seeker is one of  the greatest things that could ever happen to us   because there's a lot of people sitting in church  that aren't seeking god anymore yeah but there's a   lot of people out in the world that haven't found  god yet god hasn't found them that are seeking and   you seek and you're going to find him that's right  you know so i think that's a that's a good thing   if you've got um children that are seeking god  you need to pray for your kids that god brings   that person or something into their lives that  that draws them to god because i think that's a   very open season of their life was when they're  seeking god totally how do you know um so so   i know that a lot of um people want to hear  god's voice but they won't stop talking   right tell us how important my problem just  stop talking yeah we have turned prayer into   this one-way monologue where we're just you know  just feeling like we have to fill in the no of the   silence any quiet spaces we've just got to fill  them in with our next request or the next thing   that we want to say and you're right we don't  leave room for god to get a word in edgewise   but one of the authors that i remember reading  bob sorget i believe his name is he said   nothing happens when i speak but when god speaks  worlds come into existence so why in the world   wouldn't i want to leave time for him to speak and  what that practically looks like is yes vocalize   your prayers to him i literally have kind of begun  the habit of even writing some down just writing   down what it is that i want to say to the lord  yes we have the privilege of bringing our needs   and our requests to him but there ought to be at  some point where you just pause and you say okay   lord is there anything you want to say to me most  of the time he'll speak to us just through his   word through whatever you're reading in your  bible time that day he knows how to match up   what you're going to be reading today with what  the needs of your life or your future are that   you might not even be aware of yet so in his word  that is how most of the time he speaks back to us   but oftentimes it's just an impression it's just a  bible verse from that you learned in sunday school   years ago all of a sudden it comes back to your  your mind now take that as god speaking to you   or the name of a friend you haven't talked to in  years take that as god saying pray for this friend   right now those little impressions those little  inklings you know deuteronomy chapter 30 says   god's word is not so hard that you've got to send  someone above the heavens to go find it for you   or through the seas to go and get it for you  god's word is in your own heart it's in your it   is as close as your fingers tips all of that stuff  that we discount as our own ideas oh that's just   coincidence most of the time for the believer for  the one who is seeking god's will and his voice   most of the time that's god's word take it  seriously write it down ask him for confirmation   treasure his word and see if he doesn't  show you how important and palatable it is   in terms of the experience that he has planned for  you we are talking with jerry and priscilla shire   discerning the voice of god you know what's uh you  know it it it couldn't be any more important this   subject matter i mean the very fact that the  four of us are sitting in a studio doing this   broadcast is because discerning the voice of god  came to paul and jan crouch 40 something years ago   and tbn is his thing this isn't something that  the crouch family built uh this is something god   did and and the idea um you know that's why it's  almost comical when people try to rise up against   something that god did it's just kind of kind of  funny you know it can be irritating for a season   but it's it's almost comical yeah uh because uh  if we thought that this ministry and as it is   now fully in its second generation were up to  us we quit it's not up to us it's god's thing   and so we have that same firm foundation of  understanding and and oftentimes people will say   well you know everything's different for you and  everything's different for these smiling faces on   on television you don't understand what's like you  know in the real world and well the problem is is   uh the crouch family the shire family and you  know the evans family were all just normal people   till we heard the voice of the lord and then  that's what changed if there is a difference   it's because of his voice there couldn't be a more  important subject matter for you uh and jerry i'm   circling back to you just for a second because  of what you said so it it's not an economic   thing it isn't just you know uh executives that  the lord speaks to your mama uh needed the voice   of the lord and apparently was struggling in  a single family situation so it worked and   it worked for your mama yes you're absolutely  right i remember her coming home with her tips   and and she said she made 40 tips that day all  right i remember her taking out four dollars   yeah you know putting it to the side because  that was going to go into the offering plate   that's an i mean i'm like mom are you  kidding me you know the lord would understand she goes no it's just she goes it's a simple  obedience so it had nothing to do with that   and then i remember her like i said getting up  early praying i remember there were situations   i was in off in college that some of my boys  and i we would go do something and there was   this thing in me like you know what jerry  don't go you know what i i know that was the   time my mom was praying for me so she has kept  me out of so much situation through her prayers   that's why i said the prayers had the  prayers of one woman change the generation   i mean still today it's so funny our boys will be  like granny's still praying [ __ ] in the present   for 30 minutes i'm like yep she's still praying i  said she's praying for you guys so she's praying   even for this next generation her grandchildren  yeah and so it's just great but yeah it is not   an economical thing it is it is a it is something  that you desire do you really want it like i said   she used to get up early in the morning before the  kids got up on her knees praying for her children   praying for the day praying for whatever so you  know you make time for what you want and if you   want to hear the voice of god you got to make time  for him okay now we we the four of us grew up in   an environment where this subject matter is normal  yeah this one this this is understood we get this   there are people that grew up in the opposite  polar opposite of that and they don't get it   this book you know it the title is discerning the  voice of god how to recognize when god is speaking   okay so there could be you know why don't you  start with you know just speak to the people that   are new christians they didn't grow up they don't  have no examples in their life of this happening   this isn't normal and it sounds crazy sounds like  it's not right that we're not right a little crazy   okay so just introduce the subject matter  if somebody just doesn't quite get it okay   so john 10 27 to me is the most concise and  comprehensive verse in scripture about hearing god   uh it is when jesus says my sheep hear my voice  i know them and they follow me he says you got   to be my sheep to hear my voice so you said new  christians listen that relationship right there   is the the connector that allows you access to  the voice of god so so to me the first step is   actually believing that as an adopted son  or daughter grafted into the family of god   that you have the capacity innately  because you're part of the family   to now hear the voice of god it's like um when we  were growing up in our house i don't know about   you guys but we didn't have access to a whole  lot of cable television my parents didn't get   cable they didn't get you know whatever direct tv  all that stuff we didn't have any of that stuff   and i i felt a little mad about that i really  wanted to have more channels my parents chose   that we could really only watch the  cosby show on thursdays at seven o'clock   and then a different world so it wasn't until  we were getting ready to get married i moved out   i remember the day i had the cable guy come  over hook up the cable and after he did all that   hooking up he said here's the remote control push  the guide button and i pushed the guide button   and i had never seen so many channels in my life  on the screen i had no idea all those channels   were there now all those channels didn't just get  created that day they had always been there it's   just i didn't have the right hook up so that  i could tap into them and bring them and draw   them down into my experience the holy spirit is  the hookup when you place faith in jesus christ   ephesians chapter 1 says the moment you believe  you receive the hook up the holy spirit now you   are able to draw down divine channels it's not  that you created them no they were always there   god's speaking he wants to reveal himself  now you have the the opportunity to hear him   so really the first step especially if you grew  up in an environment where this concept is sort of   um unique and different and new for you it's to  believe that as a as a privilege of being a son   or a daughter you can hear from god it is the  deception of the enemy to cause us to think we   have to have a seminary degree we have to have  some special hotline connection with god like   somebody we may admire that we as regular men and  women can't hear from god that's what the enemy   wants you to think he doesn't want you to know  it's your birthright and so believing that you can   is the first step to hearing god and you  wrote the book that is our march uh gift offer   and the 800 number that'll be on the screen  watch this see it came right on 800 201 5200   that number is specifically for this  uh month the month of march 2017. we   want this information also frequency by pastor  robert morris those are what we're offering this   month the 800 number is on the screen that one is  very specific for this book right here right now   for you we've been sitting all hour with jerry and  priscilla we how much time do we have left we got   about four minutes um uh why don't why don't you  kind of don't get up from the set without saying   something that is in this book that are going to  help people uh and so just kind of start giving   your final thoughts in regard to the subject  matter and the fact that this book is available   right here right now well this is one of the most  beautiful things about hearing god that i enjoy um   reminding myself of and that is that sometimes we  we want to know the will of god for us we want to   hear his voice but we're a little bit nervous  about that because he might actually call us to   do something we don't want to do you know he might  actually send us somewhere that we don't want to   be sent or he might actually call us to a season  that we don't want to we don't really want to be   single anymore we don't even we don't really  want to be married anymore he might actually   impress upon us something we don't want and we're  nervous about that so um one of the things i love   about the holy spirit's work in us and this is  in regards to hearing god but his work in us   is to sanctify us sanctification is the process by  which we are molded into the image of jesus christ   it is the process by which our mind changes our  ambitions change our desires we start wanting   stuff we never thought we want we stopped wanting  things we never thought we'd ever not want to   want to to separate ourselves from all of a sudden  we find ourselves unnerved by jokes that we used   to laugh at or company we used to keep it just  doesn't work for us anymore that's the work of   the holy spirit so in regards to discerning  the voice of god if anybody's ever concerned   or afraid like i have been that oh god might say  to me something i don't want the holy spirit what   he does is turn your desires so that they are in  alignment with god's will so you actually want   what it is that god wants you to want that's  what i believe the psalmist meant when he said   that he gives you the desires of your heart he  doesn't give you what you want he actually puts   his desires in your heart so that you want what  he wants let me tell you a practical application   of that when we were first married and before we  had children we lived in orange county california   i grew up in newport beach california so um  l.a county was more like enemy territory we   you know we we didn't really understand the big  city of los angeles if you live in a suburb of   orange county l.a county it's real different it's  just a real different environment and and then the   lord called us to hollywood so we packed up our  little kids and we went to los angeles bought a   home in l.a and lived there for 15 years lori told  me that i'm so used to orange county when i need   grocery shopping i'm going to get my kids put them  in my car i'm going to drive back down to orange   county how far drive was that 35-40 miles and  i'll do my grocery shopping and then come back we   had planned that so we bought a house that felt  like this kind of sanctuary up on the side of   a hill and and we were very protected and it felt  really good when we were at home but we just were   very you know the the surrounding was not going  to work for us within days the changing of our   attitude and the holy spirit that we fell in love  with this area we started it was when god called   us to hollywood he changed the very inside of who  we were yes so the idea of when he's going to call   you if you don't like it now you'll you'll you'll  immediately like it you'll you'll immediately love   it we lived up there raised our boys for 15 years  in l.a county and only recently have come back to   serve this ministry tbn as my parents were in  their retirement age and now we're in heaven so   they're in heaven now watching the fact that we're  still talking about god that we're still doing the   same thing that for 45 years tbn has been doing  you know uh all of this and what we want for you   this month we want you to discern and to hear the  voice of god get our love gift thank you to jerry   and priscilla shire for being with us we'll see  you next time bye-bye thank you guys thank you at tbn our mission is to use every available  means to reach as many individuals and families   as possible with the life-changing gospel  of jesus christ thank you for helping make   the gospel of grace go around the world  without you we couldn't do it god bless you

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