Paul McCartney: Parkinson Show December 2005

my final guest tonight is a towering figure of 20th century popular music his contribution is a permanent one in 100 years time and more people will still be singing his songs he's played everything from the cavern to huge stadia and most recently the international space station so we'd like to do this song for you too guys especially today and we send our love from Earth dad a July where the Sun is out it especially Joseph Paul McCartney Oh that was a gig wasn't it plaintively astronauts up there there was something young from it for 17,000 people in the audience yeah I suppose the next thing they could do it the first concert from the moon would you like to do that wouldn't get me up oh you're never been through no no not very good at that now one of the guys told us about takeoff you know he said you lying flat back in your chair he said in the film it looks like it's sort of slow you go he said no it's like a truck in in the back and you within seconds you moving faster than a bullet I thought no that's not me well it's all about your new album in just a moment just to say what what three Grammy Awards nominalization yeah yeah and your producers got the fourth as well both nomination and it's what your 30 odds solo album I think it's my 20th it's 20 odd 20 odd video and I think it's marvelous it's very good I think what's nice about him it's a very it's a very mature album and it's a kind of wistful stuff in it too but what you've never done in all the years you've been around all years I've known you you know the consignee love you you never become sort of little older I like it too much you know I let people say you know why do you keep doing it and stuff like I said well why shouldn't I you know I love it and ya know I'm not really that cynical kind of person it I like what I do you know and as long as the audience is like it this American tour has been fantastic you know I've been selling out and so you know why should I stop they shouldn't know and also to avoid it where do you find time to write books you've written your first book high in the clouds yeah she didn't exactly right you orchestrated well yeah no either right yeah I told the story and then got millions of people in to help me yeah now it originally started we made an animated short me and Jeff Dunbar and we wanted to see if we could make it into a feature-length animation film so the idea was to just make one mock-up book but in the process of doing that the lady publisher said no this should be a real book so suddenly this is where the white kids book um the film was a kid's film and the characters were we're all the squirrel kiddush will the squirrel a deep philosophical tale they're reading the story I mean you make some very serious points I mean it's about the environment yeah and then it's about sweatshops and all those things so you know it's I mean for me as I say the original idea was to do a full-length animated feature and so if you're going to spend all that time to me it's got to be about something I care about yeah so those themes are in there starts off with the forest getting bulldozed and I think you know you can just mention those things to kids as the growing up without preaching oh that's the trick isn't it ya know given your your interest in all things that that you mentioned they're like the soil environment and that sort of stuff is there anywhere where you would not play because of their one policy or another in that country well you wouldn't actually go into a gig oh yeah you know it used to be South Africa because of apartheid and we were invited there with the Beatles now it's China out really only because of one one thing that Heather my wife and myself have been campaigning against the dog and cat skins that have been arriving from China and sort of infiltrated the fur trade and we've seen a lot of film of these dogs being sort of skinned alive and mystery and cats it's and so yeah I was recently asked on BBC News whether I would go there and I said well no I wouldn't until until they legislate against stuff like that just medieval you know it's just too barbaric there were save cause that they eat those those creatures so it's their food I know yeah but I don't think that's what it's about I mean it's it's happening in the Czech Republic and they don't eat those creatures you know it's happening all over it's when you see that if you ever get around to seeing the film what you could what anyone who's interested should do is check out Heather's website which is Heather Mills McCartney comm there you can see the sort of group gruesome details and it's not just to eat them it's actually very sort of cruel practice and to me I think it's just medieval barbaric I think that a nation like ours that has Crofts doesn't actually want to the next day see these creatures as handbags and fur coats yeah I think a lot of people will be unaware that this is going on this is the point well exactly that and that's that's why I've had to say I wouldn't go there yes um you know until they stop it okay now going back to the to the music the deterrent rather to the to the writing we're talking about um when you were a kid well you're a Kimmy warden you read what inspired you um Treasure Island mm-hmm Treasure Island Black Beauty Treasure Island lot comics was there any time and in that point in your life where you imagine you might be a writer rather than a composer or other musician and not really know you want to be there I think you know I always had ambitions to be something good I didn't know what it would be you know I was always quite ambitious but I wouldn't buckle down at school like a lot of people the teachers didn't help you know we had some right perverts as teachers I used to beat that out of you just like this one goat a plimsoll that he used to take it out of us with you know bend over whoa I mean I had a lot of that you know sound I was a bit too cheeky but um yeah that's true ambition yeah I always wanted to be I don't know right a songwriter you'll be different one you I mean what you're expressing there is is this is a kind of the kid or different the different tutors I mean you can't having the gifts that you gotten on me and be normal yes you know well I you know I think it's true you used to kind of accuse you of daydreaming at the time sounded like a terrible thing to do but you actually think about it now you you're looking beyond the classroom you know now I don't want to advise any kids to do this no buckle down get your exams kids okay some of your unaware about the time and did you at the time just dated we're in fact when you look back on it where it is the beginning of a creative process that continues on I mean in your and in your on this album that you've done the latest on all that you've done you play all the instruments I play a lot of them yeah that was the producer Nigel's idea I was actually all geared up to play with my band that you saw on tour there but he said the second week he said I'd like to try something different and it I want you to play a lot of instruments so he got me drumming a bit which I love to do and I think the trick for me I think thinking about it afterwards possibly what happened was that I write the songs I bring them to the studio and then the drummer kind of takes over and he writes the drum part whereas if I play it I'm still sort of composing I'm still right in the guitar the bass the drum so I I I said I'm composing a little bit longer intense little cars I play flugelhorn ha ha and it was good to do I couldn't I wouldn't play alive I'd Slough every note you know but we were recording so I could just wangle it in but on about the other one I said let's have a an indication of the one of the song lovely song called Jenny Wren this is recorded on my own tour in America I think myself man like the Jeffrey to food gg1 is there lovely a lovely lining one of the sound it kind of sums up the album am i right he said looking through the back yard of my life time to sweet the fallen leaves away it's a nice image thank you yeah that's uh yeah that's a sentiment that now applies well as you get older and more mellow more mature ah yeah you know it's it's a good thing I think you know when you're 18 you don't want to cry in case you know one of your mates catches you and no matter how I'm in my life was was I'd lost my mum a few years before that John for instance lost his and but you wouldn't cry because your 18 year old Liverpool lads you know and you didn't do that kind of thing I think now you know it's a good thing to do that and to open up to those emotions that's the way I feeling when you when you when you're reminded and revisited by the by John the memory of John Mac we are now with the 25th anniversary Ben being murdered oh that would I imagine have a profound effect Amalia yeah of course you know cuz it's it's so tragic the circumstances in which he died number one you wouldn't even have to know him for it to have a profound effect on you but if he's one of your best mates that's very shocking but you know what I find myself doing is remembering the great stuff it's just remembering the laughs and the hysterics and all the you know I get an image of just the two of us sort of walking around in alacant where we used to live with our guitars slung on our backs you know the before the Beatles before anything had broken with our drainpipe trousers well add yeah well uh well I know we think we didn't know anything was going to happen but we just felt great you know and so I I my mind goes back to all of that rather than the sad stuff I think you kind of imagine what was going to happen could you you know you couldn't have dreamed it even on drugs you couldn't be magic you'd never had any other no I wasn't even high next question let me get that fell it would be the bat reference to beetles all the time and never to bleep people because it was such an important but no you know I used to when I when I started with wings because that was right after the Beatles when we were trying to forge a new identity so the idea of always being asked about the Beatles meant it was just something you could never top and that was a bit depressing you were trying to do something that not necessarily would top it would be something new but now all of that feelings gone you know I am able to look at the whole sort of career beetles wings now and don't know it doesn't bother me at all in fact I really like talking about the Beatles yeah I can be quite boring about what about the business now variety and I mentioned I've even written how many hundreds and hundreds of songs and key to really good luck I don't about that you could never write too many I mean you can write to a few and that's nice my question really I mean have you ever had they they kind of musicians equivalent of writer's block I mean it you know happy nights so lucky with that and you talk about me and John um we would we would go to each others house whichever I got here so you go to mine and normally in the afternoon for about probably about one till four o'clock we'd meet up three hours is about the attention span period you know and every time we did it we came away with a song every single time you know it is a bit amazing you think and I think it's not nearly 300 song to wrote together and the nearest tour to a flop our nearest to a dry session was I brought in this song that was I can buy you golden rings and we couldn't get past these bloody golden rings on the gold I can get you anything ring thing and it was like let's have a cup of tea so we said no you know we got off it and then that became baby you can drive my car you just just switch got off these rings flies with car and got a bit of satire going and so that won't even worked but you're not gonna get down by my we read we like a guitar tuned wide loved one you keep playing a guitar I go on here my conclusion bites on the show and you sort of said great and says we've got film you won't need to do anything then he says Paul did you bring a guitar you go yeah but I'm not really prepared he said well no but you know I'll hand you it which he's just done okay I'll tell you what the only thing I was thinking of doing it's not really performing just just explain a little things like before I did that Jenny Wren at piece and it's kind of it's like a finger picking style that I'm not actually very good at Risa so it's got this little sort of it's got a melody going on the top and a bassline going at the same time and I was explaining to the American audiences what how that sort of started it was because me and George used to sit around learning all the old the basic rock and roll chords but there was one little thing we used to do which was a sort of semi classical thing it was a little show-off piece we had well it was actually classical but we made it semi we didn't quite know it you know but it was played a thing by Bach anyone like this and actually goes down it and they don't did it under them did it under it under little devil done but we didn't know that second half and that was a bit we went wrong but I always like this little so years later I then adapted it into the song blackbird take that sort of maybe we do we do me do me you wrong way for the wrong - I say good naughty boy coking up Paul McCartney Johnny no I'm not bringing easily Mike easily yeah all right um well I mean that's it then that's it man all the best of it they knew this guy we used to play as I'm turning the tables now I we used to play in Manchester on Grenada and we were like little young hopefuls the Beatles you know is that were kids then this guy was like a producer at Granada was indeed it was a very exciting time and it was great it really was yet another momma's and looking back on it now you know you a lot of kids say to me oh you know you had the best of it and I said no no come on you know get with now you know but but I think there is some small truth in that it was a very rich period that just suddenly happened and we were all in the middle of it you know and the music this came out of it and then particularly yours but lots more as well it's rusted and that's the that's the trick is to last you know that's the thing at time it goes beyond beyond the moment was created and that's what you've done forever and ever people were singing whistling your songs in a thousand years time so Paul McCartney

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Published: Sat Aug 18 2012