Part 2- Dr Umar Johnson CONTINUES FLAME Deion Sanders & Sexxy Redd , Sukihana- Its Up There Podcast

but here's where it gets interesting with our sister it's kind of the opposite sometimes where the father needs the son to succeed cuz he didn't the mother wants the daughter to fail because she didn't win teachers pay more attention to the children in the class who are lighter and so you could you could go to some schools hold on say that again teachers pay more attention to the children in their classroom unconsciously who are lighter the darker kids get less attention oh white person can't give you $5 million say Dro I've been a fan of you since 2012 I see what you got going on go get that school white man I'm talking about white is other white I don't I don't think I could take it I could appreciate the BBL now I can and I'm going tell you why it don't bounce n you talking about the cheap one see it's you talking about the cheap BBL Dr and how you know it don't bounce first of all how the hell you know it don't bounce King Kong Kane ladies listen to me sisters please don't do it it looks hold on now we got a certain oh wo whoo no we got two different no it look good in the clothes and it might even look good out of the clothes but it does not move organically I have saw you with Suki though [Music] right so shout out to my sister Su shout out 6 R we going to talk to all y talk about all y'all I saw you with Suki on yes sister Suki and [Music] I [Applause] yourself we thank y'all so [Applause] this up there their podcast live show is like it was real cool the host he was asking a lot of like good questions for Umar to like he was giving a lot of push back for Umar to give his more you know more what he had to say about the topics he had my experience of the it's up there live podcast show was amazing I came because I met L time you have a show I definitely will be in attendance and I was I have my own podcast so I'm definitely learning a lot from this man king is giving me gems every time I see him um I really enjoyed the it's up there podcast live show um I learned a lot this up there live podcast show was amazing it was a good time and always every AAL and uh the perfect date night for a Friday night I think that it's up their Life podcast was phenomenal defitely a platform that I am so glad to be a part of it was definitely enlightening and motivating and empowering oh it was awesome I am so glad I had so many other things going on tonight but I made it an uh uh a important was very important to me it was also important for me to bring my grandson or share with everybody I [Music] know disrespectful means turn up in my content this is a show that I'm having so we're this yeah we real tight so this is right so disrespectful means turn up in my show and I shouldn't have stopped but I want to address that continue I'm sorry I believe that I was sit here part of my mission is to raise the Consciousness and the voice is the greatest weapon to do that I was never taught how to speak in fourth grade black history class there was a oratorical contest North Philly from Bill Cosby's neighborhood and I got into the public speaking contest I won first place and I just never shut up I was born to speak I'm related to Frederick Douglas he was a great oror it runs in my family it's it's why I'm here you follow so my speaking is more of a Ministry of black Consciousness it heals and it helps and it motivates and it transforms people I believe that's part of why I'm here but it's not the only reason I'm here because we've had great orators all throughout our history but what we have to do is build institutions and leave a legacy that's what we have to do the speaking is good but it's not going to save us the speaking is to get your attention so I can organize you for transformation okay so do you I I I believe again man I don't know if you I think you know this I think you just you're in this you you you you getting to this spot yo welcome back to it's up there the spot where every convo takes you to the heart of what's hot our 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spots this is more than a chance it's your brand stepping into a new era now let's dive back into these deep talks stay locked in best is still to come I I I believe again man I don't know if you I think you know this I think you just you're in this you you you get into this spot right where you uh almost like you into you get in character not that you're faking but you get into this like spot where you just it's all about the mission it's all about it's always about but I but I think I think your result eat yeah see PL into it see this is PL into it yeah yeah yeah okay so yeah yeah this is into it talk to anybody who know me they'll tell you no I'm I'm with you and I've been knowing you so I know you want it it ain't it ain't that but I do I just not fake with me no I but I do think that there's room to discuss that there's other things on your agenda that don't coincide with the mission 100% again we went to that so I want I want to move past that let's talk about your content creation I was telling you backstage that you are one of the most visible people online um what do you do to keep your content valuable and not oversaturated uh nothing until the conversation we had now you're giving me things I need to think about based on our conversation we had earlier backstage but until this point I never looked at my content as a means to monetization or or or money is purely to wake up our people uh purely to give them an alternative view it's purely to let them know that they're not crazy when they see things that isn't making sense so it's been I never knew that I would be what I am on social media I never heard I I didn't even know what Tik Tock was so people say you need to get on Tik Tok because you all over it right I didn't know you know um I don't have a YouTube page right so I didn't know social media would respond to me the way that it has especially given My Views which many people would consider to be radical or controversial so that was purely an act of God that I've been to have that type of presence online standing for what I stand for I never expected that in my wildest dreams and you know what I find interesting you came from a a crop or a batch of conscious Community where it was very strong I said Umar is probably one of the only ones that's been able to transcend that run a lot of those guys kind of have faded away you still see the Candace ens you still see you and I believe that's about where it stops at yeah what do you I what do you contribute that to I I I think a lot of it has to do with my expertise as a school psychologist it's kind of hard to separate my impact from my profession because if I was not a school psychologist if I couldn't help parents help their children if I couldn't evaluate if I couldn't diagnose if I couldn't teach them about the medications if I couldn't help them with the IEPs if I couldn't review the psychological evaluations would I be as relevant I don't know some people would say yes some people would say no it's no way to know because I've never not been the school psychologist you see and so I I it's hard to separate the two although I think presently though I I definitely think Dr Umar dep Pan African is is a much more popular person than Dr Umar the psychologist but I think Dr Umar the psychologist is more valuable in that parents clearly see in me someone who can help them and you know what I think it is and this is old fashion for anybody in content creating is like literally add value whatever you're doing and so I think with the what you really having a background in understanding the medicines and Understanding Psychology I think that value did set you apart because a lot of people was just talking when you get in Meet andato yeah you get in meet and potatoes and you really understood I remember used to walk around with the big DS uh dsm5 dsm5 book and so these kind of things I think made you kind of R Supreme in regards to those those guys delayed there it seemed like the talking just subsided yes just kind of went wait um have you I mean the documentary era was a boom for y'all do y'all you still get paid for any of those things nah I've never produced my own documentary and the ones that I was in uh I never really made anything off of those that's what I was talking to you back utilizing your own packaging for you cuz your brand is so big like everyone knows you're one of the most popular black people in the world but it's the packaging that's why people can come and package you and sell it yeah right people can come and say yo I'm G get Dr Umar on my DVD and I'mma go get a bag yeah and Dr Umar should be able to put that DVD together with with that voice and to your point I definitely think I've lost out financially by being so giving but at the same time I would not do anything different because I don't think we get that school built if people didn't know my heart was real uh I don't think I would be as popular as I am globally if people didn't know my heart was real so I don't regret any of it uh you know even now people say hey you got to redirect your content on YouTube you got about five different pages uh misrepresent themselves as you making money off of you and we'll we will get to that but at the same time that's how people came to know who I want by people posting the content so so you got to lose a little bit to get a little bit you got to lose yeah yes you just like Dion yes that ain't got nothing to do I let me do what he be doing I [Laughter] don't cut it out no but but I don't know it just wrapped back around to that but but seriously you you know you you have to lose a little bit to get a little bit you were you were in content Wars with a lot of guys yeah what was that error like for you uh I had a beef every year around Christmas it was always try to pay the YouTube Bill try to get the YouTube check that's what they I didn't realize so my supporter said stop responding because if you notice they always attack you around Christmas so they can get their views up and get that Christmas money to buy their want kids some white jesus gifts but it was always see when I came into the conscious Community right I came unexpectedly I didn't know I was about to blow I just blew I didn't know nothing about it I thought I would just be a psychologist for the rest of my life doing my Pana africanism but I never knew I would become this right so when I blew up there were people who had their niches you had people had the mental health Niche the uh black Consciousness Niche the panafrican niche the economics Nitch and me I do them all so a lot of people felt like I was step on their toes especially the younger guys and so they would attack me every Christmas and because I'm King Kong Consciousness I had to you know beat my chest a little bit and let them know I'm from the hood too yeah you know what I mean but uh when do you stop that like cuz for me right now when I realized they were doing it on purpose to make money it wasn't even genuine beef it was strategic beef to get his response to get his listeners so now I don't I don't even respond cuz I know right now here's the thing when you have a legitimate issue with someone like you do sometimes when you speak on things that really near and dear like this is what I'm seeing right or wrong this is what I'm seeing people can frame that in that way so how do we keep it from how do you keep it how do you keep the authenticity of like when I say something about Shannon it ain't the same thing that they was doing to me right it ain't that that messy trying to steal the audience trying to steal give visibility clout chasing it's very different cuz like when we spoke about Deion Sanders I made it clear I respect them as a brother he one of my greatest football players when we spoke about Shannon I said I think Shannon is a good brother a marvelous human being you know what I mean so my thing is I'mma still big you up as my brother and just express my difference when they came at me in the conscious Comm they said he's a scammer he still in the fundraiser money he trickered it off in Europe South Africa Nigeria you know then they said I didn't have no degrees right he made up all the degrees he ain't related to Frederick Douglas I mean anything you can think of of they they were trying to assassinate my character completely you know so it's completely different do you do you is there a worthy opponent out there not calling names but saying are there things for you to yeah I will respond to that like I mean if somebody says something that I think needs to be clarified for my supporters and the school donors then I'll clarify it no matter where it comes from that's the thing because it's the brand recognition and aware that they tamper with right they tamper with what people know you for that's why I'm talking to you about this cuz for me um being in the podcast space and moving so quick I find myself in in content Wars right where people like yo you dudes ain't buil nothing ain't done no business and I'm watching as you say I'm watching these shots coming I'm saying it's almost like I'm watching the authenticity melt it's like these dudes don't know me and they saying what is what's happening and I've came in and got Rich from Talking yes so it's not something that's for debate yes sir you know what I'm saying and I'm building something the conversations I have people honestly enjoying it's information based today we kicking it but it's information inside of every episode I feel as though podcasts are almost like encyclopedias you should be able to go and grab an episode at any moment and get something from that I feel as though things are trans transitioning all information will live in some sort of audio form right and so I try to I'm racing to that but when I see myself in content Wars with dudes who ain't built anything but they brand temperate so it's almost like it's like damn when do I when do I really just go or when do I just say this just let them talk keep Bu from my experience is best to let it go you gain Nothing by going to war with a smaller fish you gain Nothing by going to war with a smaller fish and I had to learn that what about a bigger fish cuz I got big fish at the I got big fish I'm going at it when I got well let me let me read hold on cuz they'll take that and say I gave them props so let me rephrase that I got people seasoned fish uhhuh I got seasoned fish that that's after me see even if you got a seasoned fish if you look at it from the Art Award what will this cost you in the long run is what you got to look at because that seasoned fish might want to go back and forth with you all the time and you're not looking for a longterm right beef yeah but if you drop out too soon it'll look like you cave to the pressure so you have to do a thorough analysis of how long they going to draw this out how deep they going to go with it and do I even want to entertain it at all I used to look at your lives and say I want this heat I thought you was conscious but see the more I talk to you I know that you don't know the money that's floating out there when I'm sitting back there telling you like Yo dude you you you know it's you got six seven pages they doing a million a day like this is thousands of dollars on a daily the airport all the time and say you leaving too much money on the yeah and so and so when I look at you I first I thought I said yo these lives are like lost leaders for him almost like at Costco they they they keep the hot dog 150 even though they losing on the hot dog it's like I know when you come here you going to get enough to want to see what's behind Kel and the rest of the store and so at first I thought you were using those more like marketing but when I talk to you yeah yeah like teasers like yo just a little bit come get it I I never did it for the money like even now when I go live I gotta feel it my lives ain't even scheduled just like you know what Eric andina caught our sister a blue monkey oh hell no I was in Brussels Belgium I had to go live on that because that touched me you know the what is your thought about that let's talk about that uh it speaks to the lightskinn supremacy complex that we still have in the black community and by light-skinned Supremacy I don't mean lightskinned people cuz you could be a dark skinned lightskinned Supremacy just a little more right absolutely I know dark skinned purple blacks who don't want nobody around them except yellow people you see that so you could be a light-skinned supremist and not be lightskinn so it's not about light-skinned people that has nothing to do with it's a Consciousness you see and I thought it was wrong it was bad I'm glad they fired her for it she apologized but the apology to me seemed a little bit disingenuous and almost like a a smack itself it was kind of it was kind of uh I didn't like the apology I I don't think it was humble at all but that's the issue we got colorism I think black women have it worse than black men within the quom so we as black men we don't really look at each other's complexion when we hanging out you feel me we don't care brother brother but with the sisters I've noticed sisters will look at the complexion of the women in their Circle you see and and the women in the circle who may not be the complexion they want can feel that get away from us energy and that can be a dark skinned Circle or a lightskinned circle cuz even though light-skinned Supremacy is more is more prevalent you have dark skinned Supremacy who Hae light-skinned people right so it goes both ways although there's more lightskinned Supremacy than dark skinned Supremacy and it's one of those evils one of those psychological residuals from the plantation that I don't think we've really stepped on yet and I don't think Elders have really accepted the role they've played in the maintenance of skin color worship because I still come across grandparents who make comments about dark skin I've seen grandparents show favoritism even in my own family to the darkers versus the lighters or the lighters versus the darkers I've seen it you know I've seen how aunts and uncles will favor the light skinn and the dark skin I see it in the public schools and of course the educational research shows us teachers pay more attention to the children in the class who are lighter and so you could you could go to some schools hold on say that again teachers pay more attention to the children in their classroom unconsciously who are lighter the darker kids get less attention there's been research done it has yeah you could go go to an emotional support class and go to the middle gifted class the emotional support class tends to be a few Shades Darker and the mentally gifted class tends to be a few Shades lighter because guess what if you dark we not even testing you for mentally gifted it's a very strong and because most teachers in America are white women that means when a black boy walks dark skinned black boy when he walk into the class he's already been condemned from the start yeah and I've I I've seen this this is a real thing the dark skinned nappy head boy big oh man he go to hell yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm seeing this is a real thing yes yeah he they think he's yes he got to be a hell of a guy in sport or they going to say he's dangerous he's done if you can't catch this ball or shoot that shot you're useless here wow and that's and that's why so many children go into sports the black boys it ain't because they necessarily want to be a athlete this is the only way I'm going to survive or get recognized here because I'm clearly not wanted because of the way and and from the parents a lot of times the sport thing drives the parent closer to you cuz it's like they're living through you in some weird way where they want you to play and you ain't saw your daddy your daddy don't clock in about nothing and I just spoke to a mother the other day who told me her son is only in sports and he's good but he don't even like sports this the other day my son is only in sports Dr Umar because his father only pays attention to him through Sports you see that so the father only showing up if it's a football game basketball it's the only way he can get his father's attention so a lot of black boys are going into sports because their father likes Sports and this is the only way they can hook their right and and I wonder why I mean why do you think black men do that like they live vicariously through their children in that way like in the in the in the pathway not just like I look you look like me Junior like they actually say no go do what I couldn't do yeah like what is that some of it is natural it's natural right I own a business I want my son to own one it's natural but but if my business it can become pathological right but my bit before you go cuz I know you going to smoke that but my business for d even make it that far to be passed to my son had to been successful so passing down some successful is one thing but to pass down my failure yeah yeah you know what I'm saying and and if you don't redeem me the child feels twice as bad because not only did I fail on the football field my daddy needed me to win in order to salvage his self state so now the child feels twice as low cuz not only did I fail my daddy needed me to win this so he can validate himself man and and they put so much that leads to the marijuana smoking the blood you see that I let my daddy even though my Daddy might be saying son don't worry about it you gave it your best I know you needed this now I'm feeling less than wow now we both feel like we ain't the the the the females the women don't go through that do they do they have a version of that like they have a version but it's not as strong because the E the mother model maybe the mother maybe the dancing mother I've seen the dancing mother like where it it's it's there but it's there it's not as strong because the male ego stronger than the female right but here's where it gets interesting with our sisters it's kind of the opposite sometimes where the father needs the son to succeed cuz he didn't the mother wants the daughter to fail because she didn't win so stay like me stay like me so I see situation where the mothers are sabotaging the daughters on purpose they love them they want them to do well but they're having a difficult time accepting the fact that when this is all said and done she would have exceeded me yeah and that and I think that's powerful oh we got we got a deep-seated mommy daughter power a deep-seated mommy da cooking now Omar we cook you got a deep-seated mommy daughter and I tell you one of the worst ones let's go back to the lightskinn Supremacy when the mother is of a lighter Hue and she values European standards of beauty so she got the fine nose the fine lips the yellow skin the uh the the the wavy hair but the daughter has very strong African C and she knows that the mother believes beauty is in the way she looks so by contraindication I'm ugly and then the mother never does anything these is nonverbal people catch that nonverbal that's by indication just through the the example the energy yes better standing this she going out with her mom and her mom is All European up big nose bro this beautiful sister yeah but she can't see her beauty right because she's judging herself by her mother's standards which are European right continue sorry I've seen a lot of girls self-esteem get destroyed by their mother never validating their African consider tree and then the mother I've seen and again we we we're not being critical we're examining yes cuz these are major issues yeah we we have to speak about these so so when we did I've seen cuz cosmetic surgery is big and we going to speak about that but I've seen where the mother sometimes cuz we dealt with the man's side so I'm just trying to figure out where the women what if they're battling this and where it lies at but I have seen where the mother would take take herself through uh a round or two of cosmetic surgery and by indicators that wears on the child as well oh my gosh you know child say oh mama thick yes and so I ain't thick I must not be you know kicking as high as she is or being you know as beautiful as she is if the mother is going to get surgery of any kind whether it's the BBL whether it's facial reconstruction whatever it is breast she got to have a conversation with her daughters about why because if she don't the daughters are automatically going to assume get in line get in line you were not comfortable with yourself I'm your daughter I looked exactly how you look before you under cuz you don't even look like me no more when you go get all that work and come back home man we used to look just like which means what it is a rejection it is a rejection of your fenal type and in rejecting your fenal type you reject your children oh that now I I do want to be clear to you though go ahead I I could appreciate the BBL now I can and I'mma tell you why it don't bounce n you talking about the cheap one see is you talking about the cheap BBL Dr Umar and how you know it don't bounce first of all how the hell you know it don't bounce King Kong Kan I'm but listen ladies listen to me sisters please don't do it it looks hold on now we got a certain oh whoa whoa no it we got two different no it look good in the clothes and it might even look good out of the clothes but it does not move organically a man can tell the difference a man can tell the difference whether you fake in the front or fake in the back we can tell the difference cuz the bounce ain't the same bounce at all it's the quality of the BBL you experience so we're dealing with a guy natural we're dealing with a guy who has experienced a horrible BBL so y'all are getting the side of the story that's not accurate I'm explaining to you that do it ladies listen and and so I don't know where you pulled this one from but I would say G get your get another shot at that Umar you're wrong about that I'm all natural you're all natural now so oh I have saw you with Suki though lenen right so shout out to my sister Su shout out we going to talk to all y talk about all y'all I saw you with Suki on yeah sister Suki and I we we're friends uh we conversate on different topics see here's my thing here's my thing as conscious as we are we can't be so self-righteous that we can't go to where someone else is and try to move them from where they are to where we need them to be I'm not the pastor who condemns everyone in the neighborhood and never get them to join the church you see that you have to meet them she's a very influential woman yes if one day she decided to come on over to the Consciousness movement everybody who follows her comes right on with her and that's the day that I'm looking at you see what I'm saying so me I communicate with anybody and that's one of the strengths of Dr Umar they're not going to feel condemned right I'll get a brother with a white wife he'll come over doc I know you see what I got he said it like it's a bad sound with your something you know what I mean know you see what I order bro no they say you know but you know can we still of course have a seat my brother because guess what if I cut him off he'll never go back to a sister but if I stay winning I don't even have to talk about his white wife because I'm not going to disrespect her she's still human big but by allowing him in my space he's going to start reanalyzing that anyway and then one day he comes back with a beautiful black queen doc I had I couldn't do it no more okay you know what I'm saying so I've noticed in my work through the years just exposing people to what's right can lead to a change in Behavior I remember back in my Garvey days right and of course I'm still a garveyite but back in North Philadelphia we got Temple University down the street University of Pennsylvania drexon and the students would come to the Garvey meeting and they would say Marcus Garvey said race first put the race first I can't do that I love everybody I said it's not about not loving other people it's about loving yourself first well I can't do that no problem just come to the study group I didn't pressure them kids and guess what they slowly one by one started joining on their own just walk I'm ready to sign up I didn't do nothing just expose them to the truth you see what I'm saying so that's why I will meet with anybody I will go anywhere just like Christ said in the Bible I'm not comparing myself to Christ well they say you know Master would you go to the house of a thief and I he say I go anywhere when I'm invited that's how Dr Umar is I'll go anywhere I'm invited because I know that when you are presented with the truth your soul responds to it and sooner or later sooner or later you're going to have to come around as well because we as African people we are God's chosen people and therefore we are structured to to uh participate in righteousness no matter what you see what I'm saying so when somebody holds up that mirror of righteousness to you sooner or later you're going to have to consider it because that's your nature anyway you know what and you know I I think like I say man you you You're great at this you're definitely great at this but we didn't get an answer about Suki we talked about a lot you took me around the corner I told you we we we friends we talk right but but okay so because see we coming off the BBL conversation we're coming off how you are not interested in BBL whatsoever and I don't know if the sister has what I've never seen that way Sonics right right but but again I'm telling you that the circumstances are the circumstances unknown or known right and so by you being someone who is that strong about bbl's right I'll asked you about Su and I'm just telling you how we kind of got to her anyway cuz I don't want it to seem like it's just I never asked I wouldn't right okay I don't think my place right now but you've heard some of the things she said about you right yes all right so meeting someone with a BBL that's said some of those things about you meaning that she finds you attractive uh she you know certain things that she so I'm saying the Meetup I mean help me understand what's going on there the meetups are professional and platonic with a with a woman that calls you attractive with a BBL professional on platonic okay shout out I'll leave it at there shout out to Suki shout out with with with do you know sexi red familiar with sexi red I've seen her recently I never heard of her before for you familiar with her content I've heard the kind of I've never heard her rap though I haven't seen a video that's some of the kind and I got her coming on soon so I don't want to you know slander her at all but you know it's just I was having that conversation about about female rap and and how um in my opinion they're kind of mimicking what they saw the men do in gangster rap agree I don't think that they necessarily created this path often times I see them uh promote a lifestyle that they don't even adopt yes and it's dangerous but it's dangerous the same way the men done it and so I believe the men really LED those women into creating that kind of C I totally agree with you but the men were never held accountable for it right the women are being held it's the double stand right and the women again sometimes they get with these guys right and it's like and this is why I try to give Grace on the content but I know it's effective in regards to it's programming Minds I know that but I try to sometimes cuz I always try to think put myself in someone's shoes like I did with Dion It's like yo see out of their lens right see out of a young girl like sexy red with two kids two baby daddies they both in jail and I know how to rap and I start rapping like this and it start going do I turn that off when I have nothing to fall back on like how many people will actually at 24 years old start getting 100,000 a show 60,000 a show and just turn that off even if I know I'm not necessarily adopting that lifestyle but it's effective for the family and I think so many of us live in that place you do we all that's why I try to give Grace right I don't exempt anyone but I try to understand the route they're taking that's why when I look at a Dion It's Like H not a finished prod prod up I think that we're on a journey and Colorado is just on that list of getting where I'm going and the same with sxy red is like you get in that position turn this on and it works I got children what do I do what do you what what would you say to a young girl that's rapping that kind of content how does she get out of that I don't think my message would be to the young girl rapping the content I think my message would be to the black community that gave rise to the circumstances that put her in a position where she had to sing that content I think one of the things we often miss when we talk about accountability responsibility is that we felt to recognize that everything we do takes place within a culture it takes place within a community and too often because we are disorganized selfish group of people we like to make individuals the scapegoat for systemic proper you see that whether it's sexy re whether it's sister Suki Hana whether it's the G ganger rapper everything takes place within a cultural context right so what what situation was she born in what situation were her parents born in what did the black church do for her mother what did the black politicians do for her mother what did the black community organizers do for her mother what can they do well number one if it wasn't for the economic desperation a lot of our young people will be making better decision that's what I'm saying that's that's the point I'm making it's like yo this thing working yeah and and and and she should have never had to go there the reason she had to go there is she belongs to a community the black community that does not feel the need to use its disposable income to create Financial opportunities for as young people go to the streets right now our young people are terrorizing our community and it's our fault because we have not created any opportunities for them you let me go to a school that miseducate me I get special educated I get medicated I get juvenile adjudicated I get incarcerated right I get gang initiated right I get raped I get molested I got put out on the street by my mom whatever the case may be and now all that pain that the community allowed me to feel I'm going to give it back to the community and now you got 11 year olds robbing 84 year olds at the ATM that video that came out last week and maybe me want to cry he look like he was 9 years old robbing someone old enough to be his great grandmother but when we allow our children to be raised by social media we allow our children to be raised by the television and not raising them ourselves I mean think about it if you a black child in Nashville you're a black child in Chattanooga you're a black child in Knoxville Memphis where can you go if you really need an adult to spend some time with you there's nowhere to go you can go to church but you got to swallow their Doctrine before they value you first y'all see how that works you're not important in this church until you swallow this Doctrine so where can a black child go in America if they need an adult to spend some time with him you see that but the peper spend some time with me the drug dealer spend some time with me they're going to use me and exploit me but they're going to spend some time with me we have turned our backs on our children we have not raised them we have not nurtured them and now the black community is collecting the karmic debt that has come from our neglect of our children is is schools and jobs build our own schools for our children and create jobs for them if we never do those two things we never get our young people back is your school going to be credited in in the state yes well remember now accreditation is voluntary state law gives you the right to operate so the state approves you to operate if you want to get accredited that's voluntary the accredited process speaks doesn't that isn't that what speaks to the workforce no not necessarily okay because you got to remember you got children who are homeschooled to college they never been to a school at all you see what I'm saying a even in college you can homeschool college no no no homeschooled into college in other words my child is a same difference okay I see what you're saying so you plug in the fdmg instead of The Homeschool and it'll be like the same process absolutely except we're a real school versus home school is a decentralized form of Education it's not the equivalent of Private School charter school public school you see it's homeschooling it's more of an activity than institution you see but accreditation is voluntary so if I wanted to go to uh Delware State accredit accreditation Bureau I could have them come in look at all our paperwork curriculum teaching boom boom boom and they would decide if they want to credit us or not now for me as a Pana africanist I would never do that because I don't need white people to tell me how to teach black kids so I'll never be doing that right if the state required it we would do it you feel me but I would not voluntarily go to white people and ask them how well am I doing teaching black kids how much of your money from fundraising do you do you think came from white people any zero zero yeah it might have been a couple Anonymous white folks a dollar or two probably right but am I aware am I consciously aware of receiving a a donation from a white person no so ooh this is good so a white person can't give you $5 million say Dr Umar I've been a fan of you since 2012 I see what you got going on go get that school brother white man I'm talking about wh is other white I don't I don't think I could take it okay so the mission ain't that important then no it is how okay how important is the mission when you can't take the money nothing I didn't speak to any stipulations tied to it I said this will get your school up and running tomorrow and you denied it and the mistake you just made is you said a white person is going to give Dr Umar $5 million with no stipulation yeah who in this Auditorium believes that no listen I'm how is that worth clapping them white people don't give that kind of money without no stipulations bro they don't give that kind of Omar give get honestly let's talk about that but what's that worth clapping about yes all you said was look yes all you look and I like this going to play well on YouTube but all you said was all you said was what the hell did you J it didn't even stick what did here's the part what you say you're missing that's what it was you're missing okay so listen while I'm telling you Spirit you're missing the spirit up let me example goad go ahead white man give me 5 million right I build the school with 5 million y'all come to the Grand Opening y'all going to be happy yall going to celebrate but when you you go home in the back of your mind you're still saying white people did this for us again do you understand ain't nobody saying that no yes yes the people ly it speaks it speaks to the spirit cuz ain't nobody even if it speak to the spirit go ahead go ahead hear me out good brother it speaks to the spirit you know why 90% of all black institutions are financed or owned by white people don't even know that yes we do most people don't most people this crowd made because this is a college HBC most people don't even think of it like that right so what I'm saying is if the mission is more important than you how you feel how you think what I my e emotions then why isn't this money even if they kill me about it even if they but this school get to go get up and running I just don't understand that have you ever heard the statement the journey is just as important as the destination yeah how we get the school done is just as important as getting the school done let me ask you a question how do I open up a school called Frederick Douglas Marcus Garvey Academy two black men who believed in self-determination but I let a white man build the school for me how do I tell the boys that you can do this on your own you don't need white people you don't need nobody but your own Community how can I say that do you truly believe that absolutely do you think that that do you truly believe that it it'll happen off the backs of only us it already has it's not open yet so it hasn't happened yeah well it will be once we get the certificate of occupancy but we already have yeah so I'm said but so so you you've done this you so this got to be the first school without white involvement definitely in a 100 years since Marcus Garing and probably the first ever that was financed exclusively by the African diaspora every black community on Earth donated to fdmg when did you when did you globalize your your your your movement because it wasn't that way at first no I was always Pana African and so it was always Global it just it just took a while for my message to get around to the cont I feel like you started at some point going super pan like I thought you was always conscious Y no no I'm saying I a I ain't speaking about in your spirit I'm speaking about in your communication no the message was always fast it was always so even on those DVDs now every time I see you talk I hear panafrican always from the okay so I must have missed that it seemed like I they started evolved it been panafrican this something I've always wanted to ask you where do you get this from and I'm going to do a quick Dr Umar impression all right and I want you to tell me where you got this from um so you'll be on live right say Dr umar's on live and you'll be like uh good morning brothers and sisters you know today we will make make sure that we get everything we need to get done good morning today brothers and sisters good morning today brothers and sisters good morning today Brothers you give them four or five of them three of them okay what is that is that you thinking is that you what is that I do that cuz I've I've adopted that I want you to know yeah effective it's effective the brain is the creature of repetition yes not truth repetition yes right progam I say it three times the the the points I really want him to get I repeat it three times because repetition is how you condition the unconscious so once to understand a second time to understand and a third time to over I knew it was a I knew that wasn't you stumbl I knew it was something there yeah cuz I'm like yo he just nah I know him and we speak and we don't really have to so I'm saying when you do that I said oh it's technique there's something there who did you study in regards to speaking because speak is such a talent that people don't really understand they don't even know how hard this is for us than just being doing this who did you study I never really studied anyone I guess indirectly Garvey and Douglas would be the main too obviously uh but most of our leaders were great orators you know so I've listened to all of them but I never pattern myself after anyone or or or anything like that you know what I mean it just came natur you took nothing from any you you took technique you ain't took no technique from no one if there was any technique cuz see you got the you got the pointing you got you bro I'm high level listen I'm this how I make money so I'm high level examining speakers right the pointing the everything I'm watching it all so I'm saying this is a developed thing this isn't uhhuh something you can walk off the porch with so I wonder I I think some of us are born with it though I I think some of us are born with it I think I think the great ones like Garvey Douglas Dr King you can't teach that y can nurture it I ain't saying Teach it and that's what I mean like you can teach it I'm not saying Teach it cuz teach it will speak you can't teach people how to speak though yes but not on this level so I'm saying when I'm when I'm peeping what you're doing understand I've already identified that I'm trying I'm watching the best speakers in the world because this is how I make my money right so I ain't even talking about the rest of those guys I'm saying the highest level of communication right you the the faraca the people that I look in and say oh all right let's pull a notepad out get some of that technique because there's there's breath control there's pausing there's repeating there's there's face you know there's so much that's happening and so I'm wondering who deposited anything the the only technique that I'm conscious of having borrowed from my predecessors is the need to pause patially yes so I'll just go and I won't stop so I consciously try to remember to PA and that's probably more of a Frederick Douglas thing than anything else and because people have to take it in even with me like see because even with me when you try to get into that Vibe yeah you know it's like all right at some point I got to start talking to you like you listening uhuh you know what I'm saying and some people they just talking you got to talk to somebody like they're listening you know and sometimes when I need emphas is on something I need to lay there for that like I Even in our communication to today you would say something like uh for your black liberation and you'll just let that live and I think those techniques I just want you to know that people are watching those things and you you're pouring into people indirectly just by you you you know spiritually right there's about five different major spiritual gifts you have your clear cognizance that's when information from the universe is downloaded automatically into your mind you know it but you don't know when you learned it that's clear cognizance when I speak not all the time but sometimes clear cognizance will take over and I'm saying things about things I've never learned nowhere so it's coming directly from the ancestors and I'll go back and look at a clip and say how did I say that and I didn't even know that yeah so this sometimes you get into a Zone yeah where it's not even your oh man I love those zones that's oh man them zones there when I if I can get in a pocket on these boys it's nothing like it that's what I'm saying it's not all the time and you when it's coming and it's magic and you feel it as a speaker and someone you say you know where you in yeah I got in my bag I'm not stopping like take a break we ain't taking no break no we can't ANC and the one thing I learned about public speaking public speaking taught me more than anything else we have no control over the outcome because I walk into a certain lecture I'm like I'm going to tear this up tonight it's the right sound right building right this it'll be a regular lecture and then I'll go somewhere where I'm like okay this just GNA be a regular little talk it's my classics all of my Classics were unintentional everyone the ones that people love I'm like damn I never even thought that night was going to be that special it's never up to us yeah and this is important for the young concert creators cuz they're watching us but here's the thing too I'm as I'm going further and further I just did invest fest with 20,000 people right and so when you come out and it's and it's that many people you look around like what is this right and it's like you blow a circuit or you blow a fues you get it back but for a brief second it's almost like what like Jun it's like everything you was thinking your thought process but it eventually comes it it eventually comes back do you find your yourself um ever being in that mode cuz you speak so much now I don't think you you may you may find yourself in for me the best speech is the first time they saw you because there's no expectations you feel me if I'm going like uh I'm going to Cameroon Africa next week right I was in Brussels Belgium last week I never been to Brussels so there's no pressure because I know they know me from social media but they never felt me in the person right this is no pressure right you know what the pressure is when I've been in Nashville 10 times and y'all came back to see me that 11 that's pressure because y'all know what to expect y'all seen it and I got to give y'all a new Fresh message and be even more Dynamic I was the previous nine times so some people would say the more you come back to a city the easier not for me it's the harder yeah you feel me like a place like Chicago where I spend a lot New York where I spend a lot it's pressure yeah cuz not only do I got to have a new message I got to grab you every time better than I did the last time and what I'm trying to do right because I'mma send it so fast so I'm trying to figure out when now I'm conscious about this as as I'm getting because it's so much money on the line and anybody watching me I got millions of people watch I need y'all to know this pay attention to whatever you're doing right now man I'm finding myself trying to understand when I get those zes I literally try to backtrack what that day was like did I place myself there was it something I done before the show was it even though I know it's probably not cuz it never reenacts itself but it's like I'm conscious on trying to grab that or create that environment that puts me have you found anything like that for you that something that put you into a place where like me I went back the other day and and I'm give you a second before you came I'm like I'm trying to feel is what what is that that gets my brain like cuz sometimes dude my brain will go and it's like I'm on another yeah it's another frequency yeah you know what I'm saying so I wanted to ask you you know I believe when you get to a certain level within your Spiritual Development myself included you'll be able to activate it at will the reason we can't activate at will yet we not at that frequency yet you follow what I'm saying when you get to that frequency you'll be able to activate it at will Zone it's the athlete too where they shoot a shot and can't miss right I can't miss they in that zone you went to a high you went into your superconscious mind yes right but we have to get there through the spiritual is there anything that gets you there like I seen you is there anybody that maybe they arguing with you and play who he think he or they insult your intelligence or they not because it's all based on Divine timing right so from an African perspective we exist in Two Worlds we exist in the physical and we exist in the spiritual at the same time we can't see what's happening in the spiritual it could have been within the spiritual design for this day for you to access your God Consciousness for that you follow what I'm saying because remember we got our own plans our ancestors got a plan too and then God got a plan too right so we think that when we wake up we're just living our life as we want no yeah ancestors got a hand in it because you are Reincarnation of them and then the most high the universe has a design of its own and this is why when you hear like Dr King say I want to do God's will you got to tap into that you got to tap into that the highest form of expression is when what you want is the exact same thing God wants you to have that's Divine Consciousness and that's the purpose of life and that's why I think that we as black people never get to where we supposed to be brothers and sisters until we divorce ourselves from all of this European materialism that we swallowed up because we have become more materialistic than the Caucasian we are literally worshiping money and there's no why would God help us get free really help us take back over the world as we once ran it if all we going to do is replicate European culture does that make any sense to you God is not going to help you why would he get rid of the white man so the black man can replicate the white man you have to go back to being who you are and when you go back to being who you are that's when Supreme conscious will come and say okay my children you ready let me put you back on the throne we do not go back on the throne we do not until we recover our African Minds this is what we do on this side so I want to thank each and every one of you guys for watching now my analytics tell me that a high percentage of you guys that's watching this video is not subscribed so I'm going to ask you to do me that favor and subscribe to this YouTube channel share and like um um and if you want to see part three before everybody else you come to patreon we also go live on patreon you also can join my Discord um when I go live on patreon what I do is I interact with the audience they're going to get an opportunity to come up speak with us in front of the audience um whether that's heated whether it's love whatever it might be but these opportunities are only on patreon so join patreon.com and up that podcast join our Discord talk Theo when I go live I play games like right now I'm playing uh UFC and I hope you enjoyed this conversation part three we get into Dr Umar and farahan I felt that it was time for a conversation with Dr Umar Johnson about the honorable uh Minister lisis farakhan if he believes he speaks better than him um if he got anything from him how he feels about him um we also spoke about fundraising there been a lot of conversation surrounding crowdfunding Dr Umar was probably one of the first ones um that that that took that leap of faith as it pertains to crowdfunding so we had a very very very interesting conversation about that and that'll be coming for this part three live debate Dr Omar Johnson big loan live from TSU um again man just enjoyed it just enjoyed it hope you did too right thank you have a good day peace

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Length: 58min 44sec (3524 seconds)

Published: Thu Nov 23 2023