Overwatch, but I counter pick

today I'm going to utilize middle Ring's best strategy to win counter picking before I did a video about the counter picking people told me but you know you should have play tank that's where the counter breaking really is so let's start establishing who counters rule zorya against Eva so every time they pick a diva I pick a zorya every time they play doomfist what counters doomfist this is that I generally need your help with doom Road Hog maybe orisa seems like most of you are saying orisa so every time somebody picks a doom I'm going to pick orisa tell somebody's going to play junker Queen what will I pick against junker Queen okay some people say zarya Ryan like you know the crazy part is that people talk about counter picking you can't even give me a concise answer what he's countering what okay so zorya fair enough okay who counters Maan now that I need to know Diva you know what Diva makes sense you know Matrix all the shots let's go with D.A I think D.A would be fair who counters rard ratra and Arisa so let's sayra who counters Rog orisa C Rog you guys are saying orisa for everything literally every tank that I choose you guys are saying orisa so let's say Rog gets countered by Diva Sigma who counters Sigma Winston counters Sigma okay who counters Winston Diva hog I think we can all agree on hog who counters bow boom your arguments are shut down no counterpicking you know but but let's go with hog you know fair enough let's go with hog so we are only left with one character doesn't counter anybody apparently and that is doomfest so doomfest doesn't counter anybody counter Zen well I think that everyone counter Zen right let's say doomfist against junker Queen because we said zorya so let's switch to doomfist the problem with this idea is that the TS don't always One V one yeah that's what I'm saying I was top five out this account two season ago but it has gmmr so people can say that I'm playing in pla awward if you want to prove your point about counter swapping Mak a rank GM on some hero they have a lot of counters like bold that I did like Reinhardt that I did all right the problem the main issue the first the beginning is if you don't know what the enemy is going to go what do you choose all right so we're going to pick Diva we're going to see what they have and hopefully as soon as they die I can swap a character okay what do they have orisa okay I countered Ora you guys seeing it right here I think this experiment is going to be a fail because I'm just not going to die okay now okay zor is good against Orissa right cool okay come on on man that's actually a big n all right counter pick is working but maybe just maybe it could be that my Zar is way better than my uh Diva it's also an option okay okay Ora destroyed me which means that Ora counter Zar 100% not working now let me try play better but the thing about me saying let's try to play better is is fundamentally wrong because if you counter pick it's because you don't want to play better because you think a pick is going to help you the en robot okay how did I almost die to the tur like that what is this trying to focus the fors here doesn't seem to be working good purple though oh they have they counter me look they pick Winston they counter me and the funny thing is I'm 100% certain that I'm going to do so much better against a winon compared TOA a damn yeah that's funny they picked a Winston and all of a sudden I'm doing a little better even though a Winston is a cotar no storb a it's over okay now they have Winston we said a roog is a counter to Winston so we're now going to do that okay it's already off to a good start okay okay I'm countering him it's over oh oh oh where did this guy show up from what is this H okay yeah look we win now I need a little bit more games to figure out maybe it was because of the counter picking or maybe it's because of the fact that I have 16k damage in 10 minutes but you know what's funny about this whole sequence of events that when I swap characters they all started swap swapping characters which that means they just played my game so let's start with Sigma here because this is a sigma map guys okay wait they pick malga and by the way I I don't know if you guys know I Canal oh they pick Winston yeah guys we have got to by by the rules they have monkey I got to play Roy Noob okay they have a reset because I play Ro it's so funny how this game works here like I pick a tank they pick a tank it's so funny does don't feel too different when I'm playing gun I'm got to be honest the same thing now them they're getting smoked okay buddy what was that for oh they played reaper they're they counterpicking me [Music] what okay this guy's actually trolling let's go in his face okay cool hack bro like this guys let's guys let's pick us okay they have AR so what do we say we play against AR I already forgot zarya Nano me no Nano Nan Nan well he got destroyed that went a little better but I think that it's partly because he pigs monkey no way he like every time that I swap a tank he swaps that's so crazy is it really like that in in uh like diamond Masters even GM oh they have Sigma what is good against Sigma we say what we they good against Sigma H monkey I have to play monkey they're going to play Reaper or some or something going to be so cringe huge bubble they're getting destroyed wait they play bow they play B is it B counter to Monkey all right they swap to B I don't know if B counters monkey or monkey counters B how what oh they have malga okay they have malga oh sniped they got sniped eny oh try to hack me Noob oh they have look they have Bastion they s to Bastion and MAA what is this guys please don't be like these people oh damn look they pick all the counters possible and they're still getting destroyed yes now maybe is it because I'm a better player yeah that's the whole point what I'm saying I mean I didn't even have the chance to count out of der MAA because I couldn't die so he swaps I swap he swaps I swap he swaps I let's go bow all right they have bow as well so it means that I have to play hog hog yeah we talked about hog well I have to counter swap so let me go roog good pull good pull want to see it okay yeah counter kind of garage sure let's go let's go let's go let's go okay maybe maybe it is the pick actually they're winning so no this time this the first time they're actually not swapping is my team going to win this against fa Mercy what is this guy doing what is happening here let's go no oh I got up on this pedal thing oh they play Pick Rog okay what did we play against Rog we a diva that was a clean H right I killed the RO with my trap okay God damn I I don't know what is happening I'm having the best game of my life in Ro I don't know and I live okay there was no opportunity for me to even yeah now I can counter SW okay let's go div somebody gets hooked I got protection what is this guy doing bye-bye I forget about it cuz he's M he's so mad for that Matrix but hey can't say didn't work I spend 5 seconds on Diva and we win it's not a coincidence let's go Reinhard because we haven't played Rin yet okay they have Sigma if they have Sigma check this out guys check down a new strategy I want you all to do it in your comp game [Music] boom okay they're all dead without me even being present oh counter picking is amazing it works it's not it's not the Ash has 1,500 damage in spend 20 seconds my counter Pi it's me they have a Reaper I don't care they have a monkey know what I'm going to do I'm going to cap the point I'm going to go to spawn I'm going to PE roog they suck they're falling to my trap get this destroyed counter pick counter pick Andy here it is amazing gam play as you can see I've been pretty useful for the past minute so afraid of the hook so scared yeah this hook so afraid countered Noob get destroyed what how did I miss I oh that sucks where are you going buddy they have Anna now oh oh they have roog if they have Rog what do we play Raa let's do this H malga malga we said malga yeah yeah yeah true true we said ma ah I trolled I trolled I trolled I mean I went with 200 hp and and then he got n was my bad the oh we said Diva actually but you know what MAA is not bad okay guys would be kind of nice if we push forward enemy here it's over guess I'm getting counterpicked I don't know maybe maybe maybe no malga maybe Diva Diva we said D.A diva is better than malga against let's let's play with that let's go oh look at this dude fatality look I swapped I didn't do anything and it works maybe it is the pick after all who are you shooting at buddy exactly exactly what I [Music] thought no healing no healing no healing for you okay it is working better I'm not going to lie it is working better now let's keep let's keep Diva look at this guy it could have been that you played a little more Diva and malga yeah this was my second game ever on malga by the way just letting you know now they have B okay that's not good how do I die here without feeding else okay that is so lame that is so lame this hack this little hack is so cringy okay good so we're swapping to to roog now because he's playing B [Music] oh what is that Minefield what that went through him and you know it oh they're actually chasing me that's insane oh I shove myself okay roov doesn't seem to be working better than Diva for some reason GE I wonder why so it was not like me picking a different hero is an immediate fix that's crazy oh he grabed him done all right never no I broke my own hook get away from the point noobs that pretty clean Roo game get alive it's so mad I think we start with Reinhardt because we haven't been countered yet okay they have drunk Queen I don't know if that oh I'm dead Zary yeah you're right you're right Zar Zary oh they pick monkey they pick monkey what is up with these people all right what this guy doing thinks he can kill me or monkey even though he's countering me no [Music] chance come on man Double Bubble see that's why I'm getting countered okay okay well to be fair they're countering me oh now they pick reinard he's counter picking me every time I live all right okay I have told you that that went pretty well considering they played counters against me okay so they play what would he say we're going to play against rer we said we're going to play ARA against orra rra right made a mistake countered Noob it's not like the Reinhard charge and I could have killed him in literally any tank no it has to be because malga did it oh they pick malga we have healing in yeah we do I have this okay well no it's not like the malga just ran in there and died like it has everything to do with the counter picking of course okay running at me that's [Applause] interesting okay he picked malard he's supposed to counter me God d I overend my bad okay he plays malga what we establish counter as malga Sigma yeah we said Sigma does he die today no that's not I die oh what did I do why did I do that dude I didn't expect the brick to protect the the cast that sucks I did pick Sigma against MAA because you guys said that it's a counter and it's not working but I think it's because I made a bad play okay Doom next uh no if he's on malga I have to play Sigma that's the rules of it's it's not just T game play guys don't just think G play try to play counters do you get it e Diva better counter okay let's go let's go deer then who are you shooting at buddy who are you shooting at exactly what I thought matrix's entire shots we're [Music] good great c c why he leave what okay okay L he says your tank started by counterpicking now I I I am guilty okay it's over it's over guys first time the counter pick did not work but we did have a lever at the end but even before we had a lever it did not work so I don't know cuz it didn't counter well good observation counter harder yeah should have thought of that your DPS is slacking so now it's my team's fault or what okay let's start with doom here let's start with doom guys you guys every time I ask who CS this thing you guys you're saying orisa who counters reinard orisa who counters ratra orisa who counters orisa she's meta currently cuz she counters a lot interesting so why are you in plat playing orisa I'm not saying specifically about you but I'm saying in general okay they have monkey uh lag did anybody else lag go Rog good counter best def of his life okay what come on man oh they C sad they ignored me which pretty smart of them you see that's the thing I play roog against monkey so what monkey does which would be the correct thing to do Let's ignore the Rog just kill the rest of his team you get it you get it over [Music] there see ignores me completely laser on his bubble but still dies what God oh he plays Diva now just waiting to die so I can go zarya come back oh my bad I overextended a zarya damn I'm dumb where are you going man where are you going I think you're going anywhere no you're not leave me alone I'm going to go zoria okay it's time to counter swap let's see how it goes overextend again my bad well what this proves at the very least that you picking a a counter pick which is Diva against AAR against Diva it's not immediate F if you play like garbage you will still lose okay this guy overextended he's dead this die Noob that fight was good where is he guys what the okay Diva oh Diva yeah zarya let's go easy interesting where is he being there this guy's dead no he good I should have knock right click there and he probably dies hold on okay Tracer is dead unfortunately maybe not the bubble win oh my goodness the opener over damn good good let's go get out what do you mean get out they're fighting they're fighting there's no get out I'm not okay this guy trolled he's dead waiting room probably lose this one right now we're good die die surrender I've got you in my sight no no got take the high away from them he made a mistake he flew in he's going to die run out of they touch can somebody touch here I can I guess go okay thank you this actually help what is he doing there what is his position my okay that was way too close but you can see I was struggling even though I'm playing Counter pick struggling okay they not that's good lost go no okay that was good that was a huge EMP I'll tell you why I said no I thought it was going to hit a lot closer to the to the ledge so we can win exactly this get destroyed surrend my will look I have 24K damage in 16 minutes 17 minutes I still really strug here even though we played against a diva some of you might say if they played a Rog I might have struggled and that it could be true love it so what did we notice that I've won five games out of six so I counterpick four games one of them I stayed the entire duration on Roto because I did not die even though they countered me so it's three games wins because of coun actually Four because of the last one I played sorry I can see but you can say it's about counters I lost one game even though I countered now unfortunately this my highest ELO account and some people were diamonds some people were Masters some people were former GM ons these are people beneath my skill level I'm going to be honest some games were easy me countering some games were easy without me countering some games were hard me countering some games were hard me getting countered so what do I think I think that counterpicking and rather rather you playing zorya against a diva is going to be easy for you to put forward damag in and get value just by taking the one V one matchup but if you notice this game even though this was like high diamond Masters mid Masters and possibly low GM some of them the enemy tank played monkey what did he do he just ignored me when I went roadog now what is really important to remember about this whole experiment is my tanks are good because I am a good player fundamentally understand how the fundamentals of OverWatch work I am very I'm exceptionally good with Rog why because I play the role of roog in my life but if you put me on malga for example even in Masters I will lose some games or rinting Masters I will lose some games because I simply do not have the game time but if I continue playing them they will become better and then I will exit my rank it doesn't matter what I will play but the vast majority of people who try to counterpick they might have one or two Heroes that are good at and the r are absolutely trash so if you're good good at roadhog for example you Swift to Diva when they have H I don't know you switching to zarya when they have a diva when your zarya is horrible you're not going to win you are not going to win because your zorya is garbage so can counterpick help you yeah it can help you if you're already really good what is really good top 10 if you're top 10 tank and you play against top 10 players and you're playing a top 10 Diva and there's a Zary against you yes you can swap why because it's going to be very hard for you to be significantly better than the enemy tank because you guys are at the Pinnacle of skill of that OverWatch has to offer now when you are in plat or damond or Masters you can be significantly better than your enemies because there's so much room to capitalize on their mistakes because there's such a big difference there's such a big ceiling in between Masters and the skill cap of the game we can take a Nuance approach we can say in general playing couns you will get value but it won't help you improve so even though you're counter picking you will not rank up that is the conclusion so it's better to invest time in one or two Kos that you like and just play into your counters because basically when you play into your counters you're you're learning the most even though you lost you can ask yourself what could have buy dump better and if you ask that enough times implement the feedback you will win eventually more than you lose doesn't matter what hero you play against because every time you're faced with adversity and you swap you're taking away your best learning experience [Music]

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Published: Thu May 09 2024