Opening the ULTIMATE PC! - Intel's 28 Core Xeon W

Oh what I'm like Anthony just make sure you tell me when you press the button so when it starts I'm not just standing here looking like an idiot but clearly totally unintentional so this is something that I am actually pretty excited to open up now here's the funny thing when Intel launched there I even I don't even know what exactly they're calling this platform like because it's not their workstation platform that's on lg8 2066 and it's certainly not a server platform because that is on LGA 3647 but it uses different chipsets it uses different chips you can do dual socket and all that stuff this is the weird in between when Intel launched what's inside this box they actually completely left us out of the party they were I didn't even know that they had brought it to market yet until I saw videos and articles from other people and I was like hey so you guys launched the overclockable 28 core processor huh and they're like yep and I was like oh well we would have loved to do a review of that and they were like oh really it didn't really seem like your style and I was like what what are you doing no no actually I kept myself very calm and collected and you know it was all very dignified everything anyway anyway the point is we are writing this wrong and we have gotten our hands on the new Xeon w what is it 3175 Anthony is that 3175 X excuse me I meant I meant 3175 X but the thing about this product is that Intel apparently doesn't trust people to like use it properly so they have gone as far as to not just send over the CPU but even send over a completely built system with the CPU integrated into it for our use so we are gonna go ahead and we are gonna open this up and we are gonna have my first hands-on experience with the 31 75 X Oh after I tell you guys about our sponsor for the day master op master not a drop not a drop just to fling Wow you would have thought I staged that but actually this is here so we can make sure we have the right motherboard in our system 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that this was like a box within a box on top of a box situation I might have removed one of the boxes so we don't have to wait so long but Intel clearly wasn't taking any chances that this would get damaged in shipping so they have gone ahead and they have double packed it on top of shipping it inside a crate rather than via traditional courier this is a fun one I'm really not sure what the rationale was here but even on the inside box okay make sure you handle that with care okay I guess yeah is that just a message to me directly very subtle very subtle you guys okay so we've got some accessories here this looks like the cables from an EVGA power supply including one of those ever so beefy and again I forget with c19 I want to say I want to say see 19 connectors can't remember it doesn't matter some modular power cables for the inside of the system okay I'm included copy of Windows RGB RGB control for the system they got their priorities straight what's that fragile right well the box the box isn't fragile boxes finding all the packing materials here we go this thing is so friggin heavy and the crazy part is that I don't get this they shipped an entire duel either 120 or dual 140 millimeter liquid cooling system separately so am I expected to install the cooler myself I mean like that's fine I'm fully capable of installing a water cooler I just mean if you were gonna go to the trouble of pre building the system for reviewers I would say that installing like a custom grade CPU water cooler like this is probably about as difficult as it gets so maybe out - there's really dry here right now okay oh boy I could have read all the notes that Intel sent over on this but I figured Anthony's right there he's read the notes he can tell me if I'm super important soaring everyone rip rip all the users of the 84 xx and really anything else with nice accurate sound reproduction because that noise was truly spectacular ly awful all right so this is actually gonna be my first look at gigabytes board for Intel's I guess we would call why don't we call it what do we want to call it high-end workstation cuz like the thing is you've got your you've got your consumer which is on LGA 1150 whatever we're on now 55 right now can't remember it was 56 then 50 51 50 I don't know it's one of those so you've got your 11 5x consumer platform you've got your xx xx you know a TD T high-end platform then you've got entry-level work stations on LGA 2066 then we've got ya hues high-end workstation on 3167 so that is probably why where should I put this tempered glass I don't want this to break I'm gonna put it inside this box that seemed safe so this is probably why Intel included a new cooler for me do you guys do you guys want me to install it on streem I mean I guess if we're like if we're if we're streaming the experience here we might as well do it because this is a very kludged together looking solution right here so what makes this platform stand out from the other ones in Intel's lineup well there are a couple of things first and foremost it uses an entirely different socket so as I alluded to before this is LGA 3647 so that is like what 50% more pins than 2066 more than 50% more pins now what are they doing with all of those pins I'm glad you asked so a couple of things number one is they need more power because LGA 3647 at this time goes up to 28 processing cores as opposed to 18 processing cores in the high in the low-end workstation high-end desktop socket LGA 2066 the other thing that these extra pins do is handle the additional memory channels that are available to this CPU so when you have all those course you need a ton of memory bandwidth in order to keep them all fed so you can see here we've got six memory sticks installed but we've also got an additional six available ddr4 memory slots so this is a six channel memory controller not quite as many as AMD has on epic but you know hey who's keeping count anyway alright what else do we have here oh yeah this is fun so everything about this motherboard is basically super-sized you know what I'm gonna go ahead I'm gonna pull this graphics card for now just so that we can get a bit of a better look at it so the socket is actually pretty much the takes up the entire area under that copper plate there and I'll talk through this cooling solution and why it's not really that great once I've popped it off but the socket is like I don't know five or six X the size of a consumer socket the board itself actually Anthony can I ask a favor of you can you stop monitoring the stream for like 30 seconds and grab me an ATX board just like just like that blue PCB Intel one that's in the little like paper thing full of other boards you know they're just the slighty thing yeah just like one of those would be great this is gonna come out I swear I have undone this group okay there it goes all right so the motherboard is super-sized a standard ATX board would be about from here to here down to here and then would contain one two three four five six seven expansion slots now this one also has seven two three four five six seven seven expansion slots except for one critical difference there's actually a gap of three expansion slots between where the i/o would normally end on a standard motherboard an ATX motherboard and where the PCI Express expansion would begin but all that space is getting taken up because while here thank you check this out ATX motherboard for scale this all the way over here this is still motherboard folks it is like double the size so here's another thing that's taking up mondo space on a standard motherboard this area up here kind of in between the CPU socket and the top and then in between the CPU socket and the i/o of the board is typically reserved for your vrm so that's where you take your 12 volt DC that's coming out of your power supply and you turn it into nice clean stable power at the voltage that your particular CPU requires well that space wasn't enough and instead this entire segment of the board all the way along the top with this gigantic heat pipe cooler and for cooling fans on it is the vrm that my friends is exactly how much power intel expects could be consumed by this cpu now the thing is that this socket exists in the server space where motherboards really do just have about this much PCB space dedicated for vrm so what's the deal here it's because of the overclocking so those boards are intended to run CPUs that are just running within spec there's going to be world-record subzero overclockers fooling around with these things so they needed to make sure that they were beefy enough to handle multiple times over potentially the power draw of what you'd get even with a 28 core Xeon running on a standard server what else is what else is exceptional about this thing I'm actually gonna start I'm gonna start pulling it out so oh man where do we even where do we even start with this they've gone and kind of cable managed everything okay why don't we find out what else we're dealing with here so we've got a 1080 T i/o we're gonna need to replace that we're gonna need something 20 atti class by the time we fire this up right Anthony yet probably but not just yet I've got one in my office that we can actually borrow from my bench I was working on the roof 8k red footage video today you know what I know why this sorry everyone I know why this is so heavy I'm gonna go ahead and pull the tempered glass panel off the back here so between these two tempered glass panels this thing just weighs way too much it's way too much get it way too much mass you can't fire me you can't fire me because I already fired me that joke was terrible David do you promise not to trip over this if I put it here okay all right all right I'm gonna put it up here then it's probably fine probably fine okay so let's go ahead and look at what all they installed in this thing oh there's some there's some sorry there's some pretty fun hardware in there so they threw in one of the UDOT two versions of their 905 P series octane SSDs so that looks like it's gonna be our boot drive down there we've got EVGA supernova 1600 T - that's an 80 plus titanium 1600 watt power supply of course and all the fans and everything are hooked up so this must be like one of their demo systems because even though it's got you know some pretty nice hardware and decent cable management and everything like it doesn't have the i/o shield or anything like that and so this has got to be like an early early sample board it's this is a funny thing to me you've got so many PCI Express Lanes so these things are equipped with thighs at 48 Anthony 48 so 48 PCI Express gen3 lanes but there's almost none of it dedicated to IO here I remember I remember noticing this about one of a Seuss's early engineering like prototype grade boards for this platform but a lot of time what you'll see on like repurposed server hardware for desktop use is you'll see like gaps like this where stuff that wouldn't make sense on the desktop like VGA and like a serial port might just get left off and then the gaps on the PCB are just left so that they don't have to redesign that for what is definitely going to be a very very low volume part they only have to redesign the parts of the board that they actually need to change and then they'll just reuse other stuff so I think that's why we ended up with really bare-bones i/o on this particular board at least that's one theory like I don't actually know for sure so I'm gonna go ahead and start start popping things off here so note as we go all the connectors I'm removing so that is two 6-pin PCI Express connectors going into the motherboard right there those are for apparently their OC peg underscore one now I don't know if those are for high power draw graphics cards being in here because you could put up to four graphics cards in here and remember even though 4 Way SLI is dead as of I think two generations ago or whenever it was overclockers are still able to enable it for certain benchmarks so I don't know if these are for that or if they're extra power for the CPU I would have to consult the manual to find that out but I kind of you know I kind of lean towards probably for graphics just because there isn't anything else for that and there are plenty old power connectors for the CPU as we are about to see so as we go up this edge I'm pulling out are you two data cable for our obtained drive down there we've got two fan connectors for these beefy boys that are on this very custom ASA tech cooler we'll dig into that a little bit when we remove it this is gonna be a much longer stream than I expected so David how's your back you good okay well get buckled in because this is gonna be quite a thing I didn't realize I was going to be installing a water cooler on top of doing a board swap so now here we're pulling out another power connector and note this to 24-pin power connectors like what apparently this is optional because it was clearly working without it but you can plug two power supplies directly into this motherboard like what also here we're gonna go ahead and keep moving across the top here yeah my friends that is not two but four eight pin CPU power connectors all the way up at the top of the board on the left and on the right here now there's only two installed right now so I guess the other two are optional if you're not doing like sub-zero overclocking or whatever else but again it gives you some idea of what they expect might these poor these poor boards and CPUs might get put through we're not gonna be doing anything that nuts though we will leave the extreme overclocking challenge between like gamers Nexus and and J's two cents I think so I have a slight problem Anthony can you I fix it kit me at some point here all right yeah some point in the relatively near future because I don't have the Torx bit but if you could get in mind I know for sure my kit has all the pieces it's in my office on the left of my bench table thank you so yeah I need these I need to undo these Torx screws here I'm pretty sure the iFixit kid has the right bid for it and then I also just need to find where the crap the screws are on this very strange motherboard form factor because I won't be able to pull the board out without undoing them oh I guess this I can take a moment to talk about the the cooler so I recognize this this is clearly a okay it's labeled this is clearly an ace attack AIO water cooler but it's unlike any one that I've seen before something a lot of people don't know is that while ace attack does provide coolers for consumer brands that you've heard of like the Corsair for example they also do a ton of OEM work in the server space even going as far as to provide cooling solutions for large data centers so it's not surprising necessarily to me to see a custom solution from ASA tech it's just that this one is pretty darn weird so the first thing I noticed was that this block so this this core block and pump design was clearly not designed for such an immense CPU like it obviously doesn't cover it so there were going to be cores of this processor that were basically not covered by cooling water obviously that would be a problem so what they've done here is as like an intermediary step yeah I think these ones first as like an intermediary layer they've gone and they've thrown this thick copper plate because even though a CPU does have an IHS an integrated heat spreader that is designed to spread out the heat from the die apparently that was not considered enough and they needed this nice thick piece of copper to act as kind of like a heat buffer so that it could help to absorb and spread out all the heat that's coming off the CPU it also clearly didn't work as well as they were hoping because they went included that that EK solution in the box so here we can get a look at a couple of things so one is the carrier plate like the carrier I don't know sled you might call it you gonna you're gonna come off o the Tim breaker oh cool it's right here there's a little icon there yep perfect you're supposed to pry up on it there that's neat okay so we get a look at this carrier thing here can you just come off please there it is okay just gonna release that clip and that one okay so that's designed to hold the CPU while you install it so you don't accidentally hung up it's not a bloody bit pin in this socket well it doesn't matter cuz I'm gonna be putting that Asus board in anyway wow there's more than one got to be kidding me you can really see it from oh you can really see it from this angle down here there's a vent pin there and there's like four of them here can you see them at all see the one can you see those four you can really see it from my angle if we swap spots yeah you see that okay you guys we were live-streaming this I did nothing I swear I did nothing all right yeah that's clearly a bad socket anyway um so a couple other things we can look at we can see the sheer magnitude of this copper plate that they're using to spread that heat out that's pretty impressive and then we also get a look at the CPU itself so back when Intel was demoing this word on the street was that they were just using kind of tuned Zeon Zeon 81 76 is or 81 80s which are 28 cores fit in the socket and they were just manually changing them to have an unlocked multiplier well now we get a specialized chip so I actually don't remember all of the exact speeds and feeds off the top of my head so I'm totally gonna cheat and look at my phone but basically this is the Xeon wws for workstation 31 75 X and I'm going to so let's see it's there 14 nanometer + + process 28 course 56 threads so it does have hyper threading text 1 gigahertz base and it boosts up to 4 point 3 gigahertz 3.0 3.8 actually with all cores active although that's not with avx2 workloads it's got a total of 38 and a half Meg's of level 3 cache 28 Meg's and level 2 cache ridiculous and the TDP is 255 watts and of course we can expect that to go much higher with overclocking so we're gonna go ahead we're gonna put this aside for now we're definitely not going to drop it I did send an email asking nicely for a replacement for my Xeon 8180 that I dropped and nobody has replied to me so it looks like there's a good chance I'm either gonna have to use engineering samples or pony up and buy one which sucks because that's even more expensive than this one anyway that's CPUs not really gonna stand out that much to anyone who's been watching the the saga that has been six workstations one CPU the thing that's really special about it is just that it's overclockable alright go ahead and pull this board out now that gives us a really good feel for the scale of this thing one thing I really will say that I like about gigabyte solution here is that they've gone ahead and they've implemented the full 7 PCI Express slots instead of just four with double spacing like a soos is done on their board but unfortunately like I have no idea if I were to go and reinstall this CPU if this thing would even work so if I did have any projects in mind that required a bunch of PCI Express slots then I might not even be able to do them hmm that's a little frustrating all right let's go almost said the wrong one now let's turn our attention to this cooler I'm gonna go ahead and pull it out but so the first thing that stood out was that they had to use this copper plate to increase the effective size of it just to be able to cool a cpu of that that magnitude the second thing was the fans that they're using on it so these right here I actually can't tell the brand but it looks like they're like pana flows or deltas or something like that you can tell just from oops you can tell just from the plastics that they use that these are designed to be high rpm fans because something actually again this is something a lot of people might not realize something a lot of people don't know is that the force on a fan as it's spinning is actually significant enough that even on a lightweight desktop fan like one from Noctua the the blades will actually spread out and flatten in a significant way while they are operating and that can affect the tolerances of it so if you're trying to let's say for example like what happens with not to his latest fan if you're trying to get the blades really close to the outside of the hub so you don't have that wasted air gap there it can be really really difficult and it also means that if you're building a high performance high rpm fan you have to account for that even more because it's going to be spinning faster which is going to exacerbate the problem then the third thing I noticed about it right so I'm saying these are high performance fins then the third thing I noticed about it oh boy ah deaf Clippers Anthony by any chance Clippers are an oh I have a knife it's okay I'll just use my knife where'd my knife go David do you know where the knife is are you gesturing to it or are you just stabilizing yourself are you just in alright now you know okay well I will grab another knife yay now there's a missing knife around here somewhere that's always that's always good alright let's just free this yeah okay the third thing I noticed is that on top of this being a thicker than standard radiator typical desktop cooling solutions are going to be the slim style radiators what we used to call them I guess I'm not on top of being thicker this is an extremely high thin count radiator so what a higher fin count does is so you've got your copper tubes that allow the water to go from here we go from the inlet all the way down so half of this is hot water coming down and the other half is cool water going up and obviously there's no clear division between the hot and the cool water and actually it's all like mostly the same temperature at the rate that water moves in a loop like this but basically it just means that half of these tubes are carrying this water down and half of them are carrying them up to the outlet up here so what the fin count means is that these usually aluminum fins but these ones are they copper or lumen I saw one that was scratched Wow these are copper fins this is a really nice radiator this is like ball inexpensive so you typically have brass in the tubes and tanks and then aluminum in the fins but you can see right here that copper color these are copper fins anyway so you can either have these double triangles like they've done here or you can just have single ones and when you have the less dense arrangement of fins it's more optimized for lower rpm lower static pressure fans so you go and you put low performance fans on that it'll actually do better than if you put those fans on a thick one like this and similarly if you take a high fin count one like this one and put it with those low performance fans it'll it'll suffocate it won't be able to push the air through so you need to pair high density - Count's radiators with high performance fans and then vice versa in order to get the best experience either way so yeah this is a this is a crazy friggin water cooler and again they clearly didn't think it was enough all right so we've gone as far as tearing this whole thing down I guess now it's to build it back up and then maybe like I don't know fire it up run some run some Cinebench do like a blender chest or like whatever it is you guys want I mean it's it's your live stream oh I'm so sorry there we go alright I gotta clear a little bit of space here the the amount of room that a build like this takes up is significantly more than I'm used to because like the mother the components the components are also large so this right here is our ROG Dominus extreme this has not been tested yet which is exactly what I think Intel was probably trying to avoid when they sent us a completed system rather than having us build it ourselves but you know theoretically it should be fine and wow that's that's fancy it comes with this nice little like foam you know test bench station effectively underneath it so I can go ahead and put that on top of the box it's friggin heavy feature-wise it's very similar to the other one so you got you to 24 pins you've got is that even more yeah you've got even more CPU power connectors to eight pin EPS and then on each side and then an additional 6 pin PCI Express although it could be that again those are for the graphics lot somehow no I don't think so because they've got an easy plug down here they've got an additional 6 pin down here that I believe is probably gonna be for these guys yeah your USB 3 yeah you know what who cares let's go ahead and get this thing built ah there's nowhere to put anything it's fine accessories wise nothing is labeled thank you Asus I mean this whole platform is not really intended for consumers though so I can kind of understand why the documentation is a little bit lacking in fact I don't even see a manual in here because it's going to be system integrators that are going to be the ones who can who even can get access to this Hardware no this does appear to be a manual manual ventia stickers not what I'm looking for what I really want is the i/o shield but you know that's okay don't label anything you guys just have clean black boxes you know it's fine I got all the time in the world stuff and live streaming anything wait why is this not going you know what it doesn't matter where is my i/o shield what even are these what is this wait no what Wow okay so one of the things that a sous does on some of their high-end boards is they've got an extra slot on them I didn't even notice this they've got an extra slot that kind of looks like another memory slot so you got your your six channels so six slots total on either side three channels on either side and then you've got these additional ones both on the right and the left called dim dot too so they look like a memory slot but they're not they're actually just running standard PCI Express and then it's just using a proprietary connector here and you're supposed to install these puppies so these are single dim dot two to dual m dot two adapters and these are fancy ones now so you guys you can see the mounting hardware down here that support still just to 2 m dot two drives but with like massive heat sinks on them and I go ahead they may include a couple of those for you so that's that's a nice touch thank you you guys oh wow had a panic moment there I thought for a second one of them was using a square ilm and one of them was using a narrow island but they're both using narrow aisle m so on on intel server platforms there's actually two different types of like cooler mount configurations that are available I don't see an IO shield in here is there no i/o shield bloody hell yeah it's integrated on the bright side I swear I saw it I swear I saw it before you said it please believe me do you believe me Anthony I don't think he believes me that's fine I don't remember what I was talking about anymore dang it that's fine let's go ahead and get this thing installed so uh come on down we can go ahead and remove our oh right square versus narrow aisle M so you can either have it square for boards that have more space or there's a narrow version like this a rectangular version if everything's all full of DIMM slots and dim dot two slots and fan headers and all the kinds of crazy nonsense like so let's go ahead and grab our CPU carrier let's see if I can remember which way it goes ah I don't have to wonderful it's got a label on it I do love it when things work out but which way does it go trying to remember huh yep hopefully this way seems like this way yeah sure no that doesn't seem to be working very well at all does it give me a sec quite there's a lot of there's a lot of play there it doesn't go in this way does it don't can't cuz this has to go up through the cooler okay thinking no this is embarrassing I really wish I'd paid it so I've never actually used these you don't technically have to Wow should I just not I've never used these when I've done LGA 3647 installs before because none of the engineering sample boards that I got had them included and the CPUs didn't come with them at least at that time anyway so I always just plunked the CPU into the socket and then installed my cooler on top and I guess that's going to be the approach we're taking because I can't figure out how to put it on right now so I just chuck it on there after the fact sure why not there now it's on heck yeah actual sure yeah yeah why not now obviously it's not gonna hold it in very well like this actually it does seem to be a link it in oh uh not very well you know what so we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna put our CPU cooler on now so this is one of UK's Fenix kits which I haven't actually personally installed before but it couldn't be that complicated @ck they usually have pretty good mounting hardware like I said this is sending up being a much longer screen than I thought but hopefully you guys are into it how many people are watching right now Anthony just okay so apparently people do care about this people care that I didn't clean off the thermal compound so I'm gonna let you guys in on a little secret for the best possible results you should definitely do that but we're talking like a degree honestly I have actually tested it I never did a video about it called can you reuse thermal compound because I didn't want to deal with all the complaints about it because even if the results were what they were people were still gonna hate it but actually no I do not intend to bother replacing thermal compound it will spread out again when I put this new block on it I'm very very sorry if it overheats you guys get to tell me that you told me so okay deal okay deal so our Hardware here oh boy I get to assemble my own mounting hardware for the CPU block that should be fine so once again we are looking at a very beefy radiator but this one's a little bit different so in order to avoid patent disputes with folks like ASA tech ek has gone integrated the pump over here I believe that's the pump either that or that I don't know doesn't really matter and then you can see they've gone with a slightly different approach to the radiator this is still copper but it's using still dents but just these use instead of the double like kind of triangle configuration please remove before use let's do that before we forget a once once I have done that in my entire career both just as a PC tech and as a youtuber never live it down the worst part was that I had given Alex a really hard time about it like a couple months prior and then I went and did it yeah actually that really doesn't look like enough thermal compound was left behind shoot okay I will have to reapply my thermal compound do we have any paper towel handy by any chance there's usually someone said is there not wow they did a really good job of cleaning up on Monday do you mind Anthony Anthony do you mind Anthony grabbing something I know I've got thermal paste there I'll just use the included stuff doesn't really matter all right in the meantime I can go ahead and I can mount this radiator so I'm going to need different screws because you can see they've got it configured for exhaust out the front of the case actually that's the same way the other one was configured but it's the fans on the case side instead of the rat on the case side and they use different types of screws so I'm gonna go ahead and just kind of pop this in here and then go look for whatever it is that they intend for me to use Oh anyone might want to come around this side David because this is where most of the action is gonna be for a little bit here alright okay uh oh uh Anthony oh you're back good axle wait nope never mind they did include some fan screws so this looks like it's like an intel care package as opposed to something that just arrived out of the box from UK because they've got exactly just the fan screws that I need and there's no standard radiator mounting screws as far as I can tell thank you sir oh no problem we got this alright let's go ahead and put those there I'm not gonna put all 12 in I'm sorry you guys but I will put in six that will be our little compromise oh man these front panel cables are getting in my way a little bit here hopefully I can squish them enough I can get this rad in that is really tight that is a really tight fit I mean I would expect that everything about building a system like this is going to be sort of not for the average builder like not for the novice and I do kind of understand the rationale behind making this pretty much a system integrators only part with that said I mean you know it's nice to be given the choice as a consumer as well do you want to check Anthony has this processor showed up on like new area Gramma's on yet I'm just kind of curious oh man so these gaps are a little bit some of them anyway the tolerances are not very good on this case I think either that or it was stretched before so the gaps on this side are a little bit wider than these ones and the heads of these screws are really small for a fan screw so it's actually slipping through on the right hand side there but it's not going to impede us I don't think new egg for three grand hey not available okay so there you go it's anywhere from 1,800 to three good I sincerely doubt you'll get it for 1,800 oh the Dominus that the motherboard the motherboard is two grand what Wow well that's a new one I mean even like the old SR 2 and like skull trail boards and stuff we're only in the you know sort of $600 range if I recall correctly like six seven eight wow that's a new that's a new hi mark I think at least that I'm aware of alright so that's in there well enough I'm not I'm not concerned about that coming off oh I am a little concerned about just sort of like generally breaking this as I continue to build it here because I'm trying to go fast to be respectful of your guys's time and also trying to do it somewhat properly so you guys don't yell at me all right we will clean the thermal compound I have backed down on that one I always do a dry pass first you actually can remove a lot more of it that way and then you're just left with the remnants who's asking Riley wants to know how much longer oh he has to shoot teklynx doesn't he ha ha Wow how about that there Riley ah ah okay that's good ah let's go ahead and install this motherboard then I guess and hope that the CPU doesn't fall out of the socket while we do that wouldn't that be embarrassing breaking another until 28 core yeah that's really not holding that in there at all hmm well I might have made my life a little bit more difficult but it wouldn't be the first time it's certainly not the last let's go ahead and just lay the keys down Scott lay the case down huh what Oh must be Friday I need to lie down all right oops so I'm sorry David but you're not gonna be able to see this very well I guess unless do you have an angle there there's an Apple box do you need an Apple box I will have a box you ready here we go all right there's some movie magic for you guys at home it's not close enough dang it all right well you got this thank you sir there was really nothing I could do to help you okay so I actually oh wow this board is a little different we can clear this clear this space that we need so instead of being so long like the other one with that with the ten slot configuration a soos starts there PCI Express slots right here it's only a standard ATX length so what that means is that these fans are in the way of our cooler right now oh boy seems like there's a bunch of room between the headers here but something is stopping me no it's this alright maybe it's that these are pulled out too far right now cuz yeah it's not the fans it's these capacitors that are built into these cables yeah this is not not amazing what's happening right now this is what we get this is what we get I'm sure over I didn't tell they're just like - this is why we sent you a completed system this is literally exactly the reason that we did that you knew that you knew that we dared to be different oh my goodness I just can't even like I just can't even get it it at all you know what we're close to just that all those cables I don't think we can do it like we can do it I think I have to liberate the cables first and then I'm just gonna have to figure out how the crap to get them over there oh boy um how that's gonna be interesting thing is so big it's just I'm wildy what's under it okay usb3 come on come on baby just get in there you got it you could do it oh okay now after all that of course they because the boards are different sizes not all of the mounting holes line up so there's no nothing to plug into here or here yeah it's very funny Anthony very funny so I have to take it back out all the things you guys don't normally see in the video right this is this is the beauty this is the beauty of doing it live beauty all right so let's have a look-see shall we we've got one two three four across the top you know what two is enough we've got two more right here and here those ones do appear to line up but that right there that was going to be a big old problem for us so we had an extra that was probably actually scratching on the back of this back plate here that was gonna be a real big problem we could have well I mean it's got a back plate so maybe not as big of a problem so it would have flexed the board a little bit but it probably would have been okay but if you don't have a back plate on the back of your motherboard then what you can do in a situation like that is you can end up actually scratching the back of your board breaking traces and effectively well destroying it so we don't want any of that going on guys don't let me forget that I put this bit here I will need that let's go ahead and pull that standoff out first though okay so we've got this guy and then this guy and then this guy yep that should line up just nicely then we've got this guy which does look like it is lined up perfectly fine we've got this grommet to fix okay that's just my OCD getting the better of me this doesn't actually matter we don't actually have to do this oh now I can't stop okay I have to do this oh wow it's worse than before just please go oh please just go in entering panic mode in five four three two one panic mode averted okay okay then we also need this one so we can go ahead and pop one in there that's the one we took out and then this guy is not doing anything so might as well move it up sorry you guys can't really see what I'm doing right now this one it's over here oh it's a really awkward angle to work at but feel don't feel bad for me feel bad for David he's working harder than I am right now by a long shot all right here we go for those of you don't know David is the camera guy who's shooting right now anthony is working the least hard out of all of us he just asked us like fetch stuff occasionally and drink Pepsi Diet Pepsi I'm sure see I know his drink preferences he's very particular okay so the board's in and everything that I was expecting to have a standoff in it does so we're gonna call that good enough and we're gonna go ahead and screw it in let's try not to drop any of these screws oh I've already got one loaded up here oh wow this board supports everything it's even got a oh wait I thought that said Thunderbolt header does it have a Thunderbolt header I'd be pretty impressed if it did yeah it does God support for Thunderbolt got all all the things to you dot twos on this puppy you got eight say two slots you got those ridiculous for m dot tubes what's interesting though is that even with the size of this thing it doesn't have a single m dot to in like a standard configuration just lying flat on the board so you have to use those dim dot two cards interesting now what's also interesting is that I appear to be short one screw hmm I find that to be a little bit concerning so I can actually check why I'm sure to screw fairly easily so two across the top to down the middle one more here and four across the bottom so that should be nine and I'm just going to check from the back one two three are you okay three four yeah five six seven this one eight nine yeah okay that's right why do I have an extra screw oh ha ha ha ah the screws for the graphics card okay let's just carry on then shall we what's the chat figure it out Anthony [Music] when I'm cringing when I picked up the case oh right the CPUs not in yet okay well you coulda told me that thanks Anthony I know you've always got my back well you're stabbing me in the face Oh the CPU wasn't what sorry oh yeah no he just told me I forgot okay this is the worst peel of all time came off in three pieces terrible terrible no one by this board eighteen hundred dollars worst peel ever just kidding that's not that's not why anyone cares about this board okay so now we've got new problems I have basically no way to access the 8 pin connectors over there but first we're gonna we're gonna deal with this once and for all we've got to assemble the mounting for the block I'm just gonna have to figure out exactly how to do that bunch of like wow you know when your cooler comes with not one not two not three but four allen wrenches you're in for a super duper good time I think someone's at the door oh boy you've got Stoppers you've got what even the crap are we looking at here okay ow instructions are there instructions I really alright well you saw it folks this was it this was the point where this stream went completely off the rails okay hopefully we have all those thumb screws and hopefully these are the instruct note these are the instructions for the ASA tech cooler come back I really really really need that I need that to not be gone does this not have nope okay well it's not clear exactly how this goes together but I like to think of myself as a reasonably clever so I'm sure I will figure it out basically we've got four basically we've got four of these and they need to go through these holes and hold this to that sure I'd love to know where the instructions are stuck inside the packing of the box I don't see them I don't think that are they referring to this that's just a protector for the oh thank you chat beautiful okay how are we doing here oh boy these might just be the standard instructions for the standard kit that doesn't go on LGA 3647 yeah I think this is just like how to fill your loop holy crap this isn't filled of course not oh boy oh boy and no there are no instructions for LGA 36:47 stop stop just go there alright so there are a few things I know one that the threading is slightly different between the corner screw standoffs and the ones down the sides so I just need to figure out which one's of these are which and then I can't go wrong are they different they're not different you know what we're gonna Yolo it we're gonna put with thermal compound here we go oh wow there's nothing on the side HS at all not even Intel confidential that's really unusual okay hopefully this is enough goop these are really big CPUs and require a lot of goop so we're just gonna put that on there a little like that and we are just going to screw these on because that's all we really have to go on at this point so here's an allen key actually I'm doing this out of order it should be this one first I do have the prompter remote you can you'll have to give me one second here though okay you know normally I scream because it's fun but this is just stressful this must be just as stressful for you guys to watch as it is for me to do to so I don't know if anyone's having a good time right now ah here you go 17,000 people at 17,000 people can be wrong I've actually seen much larger numbers of people be wrong in the past talk quieter are you guys shooting on the tech link set oh okay so we're just gonna be shooting two things simultaneously see when you said you'd figure it out I just I kind of assumed you'd figure out something different like shooting over in the lounge or something but that's okay we're just we're doing tech linked right over there on the other side of that wall and we're doing this live stream right here on this side of this wall yeah so that'll be tonight's episode okay so I've put in the two screws on the corners and now I'm putting in the ones on the sides so the first two are just to keep the block kind of on the socket and these two actually wrench the CPU down into the the pins into the LGA actually is technically the LGA the thing on the bottom of the CPU or on the motherboard I think it's the motherboard so I think we're going into the LGA land grid array I'm sorry David this ended up being a much much bigger project than I anticipated that's on me that's on me not on you the good news is that as far as I can tell this is working it's working and it's what we expected oh right what we don't know is if this is actually full of water or not oh boy so do they ship this empty or filled oh man now I kind of wish I'd used the ASA Tech one again instead of switching to this I mean we're not gonna be overclocking it right now anyway why did I care why did I build it overkill like a question I've asked myself many times I don't know oh man okay do you happen to know if the Phoenix comes prefilled and if you like drain it then expand it Anthony let's find out I doubt it I really doubt it okay here we go all in one expendable blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah okay blah blah oh right so I think it is supposed to come prefilled but it's also supposed to come with quick disconnects this is just a completely different product manual so removing the expansion balloon yeah ours doesn't have an expansion balloon I have no idea if it's full yeah sort of I mean it's the Phoenix in the sense that it's got the same radiator and pump combo as the Phoenix but it's a different block it doesn't come with the GPU expansion module like it's only sorta a Phoenix I mean it doesn't really okay so why do they include these if not to fill it or something and see they've got these extra Stoppers - what are they for I don't know yeah okay you're right worst-case scenario we start pumping air and we destroy the pump okay that is a worst-case scenario and then we have to install the ASA tech cooler back on but that's okay I think these people are enjoying the process hopefully okay okay so let's go ahead and plug our 24-pin power in that we can access whoo this is the primary boom then we can loosen up our what is this that's you sp3 okay so actually that we can do as well we're getting all the easy stuff out of the way right now that goes right about come on baby just oh just go in easily please thank you that goes right about there thank you then we can loosen our UDOT to a little bit here see if we can liberate that a bit no we cannot that's fine now I can tip it up right cool yes we can liberate this a bit but we will need to cut some zip ties I found my other knife hey this is looking up a little ah I could really use clippers right now that would be a lot better there we go no I'm good huh no not yet remember do as I say not as I do and I'm saying don't do that all right down it goes go ahead and plug in our UDOT - boom we are making real progress now here's our front panel audio no that's USB and that doesn't happen to line up with any USB header on this board but that's fine we don't really need USB anyway um no I just need I just need the power switch so they use a different pen out so I'm just gonna take this tape that was so helpfully applied to this to make it easy to install I'm gonna remove it and we're gonna go ahead and plug our power switch in right about you know gorgeous front oh you know what what the heck let's do it the only live one time all right now we need to solve a real problem here at the back are my two 8-pin connectors obviously there is no way whatsoever to get those through the back of this it is completely closed up with this board they're also cable managing yes Anthony I take it back I would like Clippers I can't keep I can't keep doing that I will cut myself eventually uh yeah yeah for the views no no no I would rather not cut myself today ah okay you know what we also need some eight pin extensions yes that's our solution cable mod to the rescue so David how much can you follow me this is your this is your umbilical cord isn't it that's it that's it that's all okay well maybe we can put yourself over here and then I'll wave to you from over where the cable stuff is I think you can take the power with you actually you know what you stay there you stir nope okay okay so I'm going over there I'm going over the cable and cable and can you see me I'm going to cable and I need some eight pin extensions uh-oh I could have sent Anthony actually that might have been smart well you know what I'm gonna grab the box that I think contains eight pin extensions and then if it doesn't then you can bail us out Anthony no this is so ridiculous can you get through here David oh yeah like a boss do you need help can I give you a hand getting up okay the good news is this is exactly what we needed wait no this is not exactly what we needed these are just modular cables I thought these had female ends ah okay you know what I'm just I'm taking this project to the floor there's not enough space up there anymore okay Anthony my hopes are my hopes are fading oh there's one wait no is this pci-express plenty hell I think this is PCI Express Anthony you might need to look for a pin extensions you could try one of the other bins of cable Maude stuff or you could try I don't have time to wait for an order oh you could you could try the specialty PC power bin as well yeah that's what led me to believe there might be some tensions in here everything here come on oh there's one yes yes wait I have to Anthony yes victory is mine I think see the thing that I don't know is whether this Asus board also allows me to just plug in to eight pin connectors like the gigabyte one and what I also don't know is where they would go so we are going to have to either consult the manual or trial and error this this this sucker first though we need to remove these because we are clearly not cable managing them up the back anymore there we go then we are just gonna run them in the messiest way possible right up over top of the CPU [Music] wait you know what no we can do a little better than that we're gonna go up right here do you see it can you see me can you see yeah okay see the cable heck yeah alright so it's coming out right up here Oh ow okay wonderful I don't know whether to laugh or cry this was not what I intended to do all of this I just thought you know what simple motherboard swap they'll be the same size and shape that's why we have standards standards yeah I'm sure a soos anyone anyone who's been sort of following this platform a little more carefully than me it's probably just like laughing at me this whole time and I don't know if Intel's laughing I think Intel's crying okay I just need I just need this to go in there wait is this one piece of bloody hell this one's PCI Express Anthony you might need to know wait how the heck am I even gonna plug these in anyway I forgot about the real challenge the real challenge is that these fans are in the way I can't even access that the sockets anyway ok so this one is gonna go over there somehow we hope oh could I do it which one I think I can I think I can plug it in motherboard box motherboard box where'd it go here wait did it come with a manual yes it did it did okay note the weight of the board in there doesn't uh doesn't fall open anymore okay the manual was in here home stretch now home stretch baby we've got this I can plug this thing in I will be so happy sorry about that all right bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla installation tools and components yeah like your case is gonna look like that say the optical disc drive optional you bet it is alright here are the labels so ATX power connectors for 8 pin a1 2 b1 2 a 3 B 3 what the crap is this labeling ok please tell me which ones are optional please just have it laid out this is the one you need this is the one you don't need come on hit me with that useful information here we go ok so there's a 1 there's a 1 2 a 3 that appear to go from left to right out that way and then there's B 1 2 B 3 which go right to left out that way so for our fully configured system do not forget to connect the 8 pin power plugs otherwise the system will not boot it doesn't say which this motherboard supports up to 2 power supplies so great with the proper and push down firmly until the nope it doesn't say so here's what we're gonna try we're gonna try a 1 and B 1 and see if that's enough so I think I can put this in without taking out that pan there's a little thing in my way they'll get out little thing oh it's a fan connector I need a spudger oops I already took this bed earlier and I didn't put it back so this is my second spider I'm sorry Riley okay yeah then okay so one VIN and this one might just be long enough to make it without an extension now the problem is that these don't lock together on this particular power supply which is a real hassle for me because it means I have to both hold them together and plug them in at the same time all in a gap that I can't really reach you know what forget it oh hey Riley are you done did you just ASMR the whole episode nice these are this grill is too wide to put a fan on top of it okay all right with this fan out of the way I'll be able to plug in a second eight pin power connector here oh Anthony did you ever go get a 20 atti oh it's fine to turn that off I'm done with that bench yeah if you don't mind we're we're pretty close to graphics card install now oh I can I can smell it I can smell it we're close just burned past Oh to taste thanks Dave I'm sorry David is it good cuz I can't stop and think about whether it's interesting or not I'm just trying to build the computer the computer I should have never taken apart you know what's hilarious is I'm planning another livestream where I put another thing that I should never have taken apart back together I'm gonna put that red camera back together and I'm gonna do it live that's the plan I'm gonna try anyway I mean I think people kind of get a kick out of watching me struggle anyway so if nothing else the people will be entertained are you not entertained I just like I can't get in there can you see how tight this is too tight to fit a camera in to see what I'm doing that's for sure just go okay let's try one at a time because I can't get my fingers in there so I just have to maneuver it using the cable got one halfway in so if anyone from EVGA is watching that is why you need the two halves of your a pin if you're gonna have a four plus four that's why you need them to lock together because sometimes you're building under sub optimal circumstances and this is nothing if not suboptimal everything that's going on right now oh oh thank you sir that's beautiful Oh still warm all right ah let's just throw that back on there I guess we're making real progress now my friends I really I really you know what I don't want it I don't want to ruin this pump Anthony can you check Intel's email and see if they said if that thing is prefilled or not thank you it would be tremendous to know before I turn it on because we're actually getting dangerously close to that pardon the expression all right ah screwdriver let's go ahead and install our graphics card in the top slot here so that's interesting we also ended up with somehow we're one screw short instead of ones through extra now so I only have one screw to put in the graphics card when I had to when I took this thing apart I don't know what's a bigger concern the screws left over or not enough let me know let me know in the chat what's worse all right the peel tab fell off okay hey soos you guys got to step up your peel game here this is the worst worst motherboard peeling experience I've had in quite some time all right so that's in it's like barely supported by this thing go ahead and screw it in also I think we're gonna oh yeah we're gonna need the PCI Express power connectors that used to be plugged into that gigabyte board just for this graphics card it needs to eight pins and a single six pin and they're gorgeous folks it's beautiful okay what was I thinking I don't know sometimes okay Ram let's just walk this over here now this is yet another thing that can go wrong today because this Ram is validated for the CPU clearly and that is a big factor these days because the integrated memory controller is well it's integrated it's built right into the CPU but you can still get weird compatibility issues from board to board let's find out what we're dealing with here so this is samsung eight gig 2666 so eight gigs times six would be what 48 gigs alright let's go ahead and pop these tabs ooh that graphics card is still very toasty so it was running 8k video playback acceleration like GPU acceleration and stuff upstairs that's gonna be a video coming pretty soon well actually it's funny that it might not be that soon so that'll give you guys some idea what our video cue looks like cuz I shot that like two hours ago here we go they say nothing it's optional for people who want to overclock well I'm certainly glad I put it in then because I'll definitely be overclocking on this stream just kidding I will not be I'm gonna be happy enough if this whole thing boots at all and if it doesn't post I really don't think I can stick around long enough to troubleshoot the whole thing because I have to catch a plane later today I am going to a wedding so good luck everybody here we go that's it it's done I will I will try a couple things so I will at least try more 8 pin connectors to see if that's the problem oh I need a power cable yes here it is and that is one oh you can like hear it sounds like knuckles cracking I will need a power cable here it is that's fine I will need a portable nuclear generator no just kidding the outlets should be fine we're only running at stock speed with a single graphics card but this thing could be loaded up to draw more power than you could provide with a single outlet I am pretty sure I need power for my monitor and then I will also need some time to display cable ah here we go there's one plugged in to the monitor already oh man I am pretty nervous you guys let's see if we get lights do we have any any indicator lights whatsoever on the board we do and their RGB all right moment of truth yeah there's like a display on here full color displays things ridiculous okay wait wait a minute stop ah actually let's find out if it posts first but this thing's gonna overheat really quickly because there's no power plugged into the pump I need this we can still find out if it posts usually you have enough time oh that actually might not be a terrible sign it turned off yep CPU blah blah blah blah okay it stuck it BD for a while here remember back to CPU okay that might not be a great sign come on baby code 79 VGA come on hey there it is okay post let's turn it off quick okay now we need to figure out where this goes so I don't know what the hell excuse me pardon my my foul language because I didn't see anything on the top of the radiator unit that looked like a plug I mean the good news is hey I only put in six of the screws that's what I call planning ahead it's not about truth it's about branding you know planning ahead oh can I just rip this off because they go through no these two are stuck pretty good so show me the power cords so one of these looks like an RPM sense and one of them looks like power but where do they go my plug oh ha I don't even notice this tripod Oh neat so there's power and then here's tachometer cool so all the fans are actually powered off this single thing - that's actually that's pretty elegant good job UK that's smart use of the space that otherwise just would have been pointless and tank space actually I guess we can just leave this like this because you only do live once and also because that way if we have to fill this loop we will already have access to it oh yeah I could also just check if it's filled good thinking Anthony yeah we can just check if it's filled fix it to the rescue actually I'm not going to use my fix-it kit for that okay we're almost there David almost excellent you know what screw it haha sweet sound of pumping and my weak justification for this fan hanging here is that we need some cooling for the memory yeah hell there was an old product called the Anne techspot cool that was basically this it screwed into like a motherboard standoff and then it just had this like like our kind of articulating arm thing that you could use to just kind of position it wherever now hold on just a minute here 49 gigs of ram that doesn't seem right wait yes it does 48 okay yeah okay cool detect the devices you two until 480 gig obtained by blah blah blah CPU fan speed error that's fine we weren't oh can I get a keyboard and mouse by any chance no no I said can I get one still no no okay please Thank You Anthony so this is fantastic everything actually somehow miraculously appears to be working and this is why I never learned okay neat so all we need is a keyboard and mouse oh I can plug in networking now as well I wonder if this thing has ten gig networking because you never know when you get into high-end products either they include everything you could ever want or need or they include nothing because they assume you have enough money to buy whatever else it is you could possibly want to need go either way oh I guess I could look at the box while Anthony's over there that would answer my question well that stuff's gonna fall out so I'll do it like this LAN a Kwanza 10 gig LAN yep regular Intel LAN so you have something that works before you install drivers you got your Wi-Fi 2x2 AC bluetooth b5 interesting so this is an EE be born Wow so a soos managed to make their board a standard size Oh Thank You Anthony I actually didn't look back closely at it as I was going but this is a standard sized board it's SSI EB I mean it doesn't fit in a lot of things but that's better than proprietary like oh yeah I guess he'll be needing to get a new case cool f1 to run setup in that beautiful so let's find out how they had it set so multi-core enhancement was set to auto so I guess that might be on would be my guess oh wait no wait right Intel didn't set this up this is a new board ok ah so this doesn't really tell us anything this just tell us say Seuss's defaults well screw it let's just do it then boom please now usually it's not a problem to swap from one board with the same chipset to another board with the same chipset now your Windows license might freak out a little bit but where you're really run into trouble is swapping between dissimilar architectures so if you have ok that's potentially not good oh you know what's really funny is that's the same error we got earlier so three more cycles of this and it might work David yeah it's the bug code and D is driver so where you really run into trouble is switching between dissimilar architectures like trying to go from this down to you know an Intel Sandy Bridge or something or going from AMD to Intel or vice versa that sort of thing you can't even run into trouble to though just like swapping out sort of too many things at once like your graphics card and your network card and something else but I don't know I have I actually have a fair bit of faith that this is going to work out cut myself that's how you can tell it's a good build a little bit of sweat blood and tears you can't get there without the blood oh I think I'm supposed to file a safety report for that what's it called again incident yeah I don't remember if you get cut it I'd yeah I did a little bit although I think might not have been cutting myself so much it's just my hands are really dry cuz the air so dry and it kind of split so hard to say what I do know is that I am staring at a Windows desktop how's the screen brightness for you David I can go a little brighter I can go a lot brighter how's that it's not bright more you want more I got more for you give us more is that good cool so why don't we start with a good old-fashioned Cinebench run Wow that's pretty fast kind of clock speed are we running out here so all core clock yeah it finished too fast and I didn't get a chance one moment please let's try that again I love how tell tuned some little funny things about this install like how big task manager is out of the box so you can see all the threads and like see how they're correctly aligned here so we're at 2.8 gigahertz all cores there but it was kind of jumping around a little bit let's try that one more time 4,000 Cinebench score love it is it supposed to be 3.3 is it 2.8 oh no I think 3.8 is max boost and I'm not sure that oh this is Navy export load okay so we do already know that AVX workloads are going to result in lower clock speeds because they are a bit more punishing so hey where do you keep all the blender benchmark stuff okay oh crap oh shoot are we not oh that's okay the quanta no the ik want chair drivers aren't pre-loaded because this is a different board I just need to switch Nick ports fine Oh what it what is what is our easiest contact have to say oh yeah tell him it's good I got it oh well I don't know unless I plug them into the wrong ones in which case he can feel free to correct me input 1 ah ok well that's not how he did it but it's working so I'm sticking with it okay so so what I actually haven't set up the blender benchmark you need to install the full blender right oh really oh I did not know that sweet cool let's grab it dang it where's just the download link you guys please this is what is going on it keeps scrolling down instead of up that's really weird yeah here we go oh I don't know if I want a daily build Oh fine okay I guess so save sure why not no floatplane chats mad they want emotes oh uh what else do we want to do on this thing now that we've got it up and running I mean we could check temps right whoo yes we could cool yes let's do that whole let me just grab hardware monitor real quick here are you coming down ah edge man to be not install Chrome for me they didn't it's like the first thing I install just don't have to deal with it Cinebench extreme right here it is this is so this is four times the workload of the regular Cinebench and is basically a new benchmark that was this is like a community thing right I think so so it's a modified version so that instead of seeing these really high core count processors like the 32 core thread Ripper or the 2990 like this one instead of just seeing them just like rip through it and then not really giving them a chance to either sometimes get up to full speed or like settle into their their their sustained like power limit this one is designed to take four times longer so that it'll really separate the the truly awesome from the just like very super awesome let's find out where that download went all right that's a zip we can go ahead and extract that so you can tell everything we're doing today is very fresh extract yeah / blender yep go for it uh I sincerely doubt these are XMP sticks yeah they're like ah guys that Gary oh okay sure thing okay apparently this board will do up to 4,000 megahertz I really don't think this Ram is gonna do that it's just some pretty bare-bones RAM actually didn't check the ICS like they might be really good ones or something and very overclockable but I'm not counting on anything right now why are these taking so long to extract this like a network bottleneck or something cuz the CPU is barely being touched four percent yeah yeah it's a ton of small files so there you go oh yeah wow so this one's only 80 Meg's but it's 2,300 files Wow yep there's your problem got him did they preload anything else on this ooh candy crush well we can play candy crush in the meantime it's time for a let's play did you know wrapped candy something something oh man if I accept these terms of service am I gonna regret it oh I regret it walk into Facebook no I just let's just let's just play yeah no no I get how it works wait is this still a tutorial is it just telling me the answers this isn't real gaming yep I'm done okay why don't we try let's do Cinebench extreme first alright you can't have both of them open at the same time I know I don't want to save my score okay so here's the new one extreme unofficial nod so this will take a little longer I mean it's still chewing through it pretty quick here let's double-check those clock speeds so yeah that's 2.8 gigahertz so this is most assuredly an AV X maybe X 2 workload neat oh right I downloaded hardware monitor thank you worthless windows search I guess I'll just go get it myself then wait what the crap where did it go thank you edge I have no idea where my download when it never started oh did I have to click again all right all right all right nope edges not to blame for this Oh what just happened wow I'm not a huge fan of this Mouse it's like the clicks or hair triggers yeah for gamers okay next 32 X 64 here we go alright so I want to see what kind of temps were getting just at just at stock speed even we're not even making it suffer too much yet that's great that's great there's so many there's so many here you can barely like keep them all on the stupid page okay so we're 20 26 to 28 degrees at idle sorry I can put that on your side David there you go and then no no no I got you I got you fan okay now we're gonna run this again we've got 1152 the first time around and now let's fire up task manager okay go ahead and pop that down there and so you can see here everything is actually perfectly under control in the low 40s so yeah you like a Z on it doesn't draw crazy amount of power or output a crazy amount of heat when you're just running it at stock speeds where you're gonna get into trouble is when you overclock it because it's not like you double the voltage and you double the heat output like it's an exponential curve so and then you know Intel and AMD Mel Nvidia all the chip guys they're always tuning for that that that sweet spot of as much performance as they can squeeze without letting thermals on the power run away with them well this chip the sort of rumor is was never designed to be used like this on an overclockable platform so it's probably taken some work to even get it this far so we're at 11:58 in Cinebench extreme and we can go ahead and fire up blender now so here's 2.8 so what's the what's the dealio with 2.8 you just fire it up from the folder do you do you have to run as administrator' or no more info run anyway we're good ok so this will be our this will be our last test here so which one do you guys want to see actually Anthony which one do you want yeah I gooseberry how long would we expect gooseberry to take on this puppy that's weird it's complaining about my graphics driver with at least OpenGL 3.3 support well I should have a driver oh you know what it I might just need a reboot because the oh wow no yeah the whatever 1080 TI drivers are on here apparently are old enough that they didn't come with 2000 series drivers in the package would be my guess cuz normally you can just swap them around and it'll just grab it okay so we're gonna need to grab new and video drivers I'm sorry guys I'm especially sorry to David who has been holding the camera like a champion for like an hour and a half how long have you been streaming okay an hour 45 David you rock you can tell even his big fist pound was exhausted I'm sorry man you know we have to do it though we have to see blender we have to see it through I am amazed this worked like I could not be yeah you've spent enough time goofing around with weird tech with me that's yeah you know that this is like this is pretty good this is pretty good for me oh man that's fantastic uh I mean I don't know what else can we throw on this thing in the meantime you can throw I'll throw steam on here although this really is not designed for for gaming gaming use not even with a twenty atti I mean it'll it'll run games in the same sense that you can run games on like a six thousand dollar Quadro and a ten thousand dollars Eon of course it'll run capes it's just not a great value and so this is what we figured about five grand all-in for the CPU and motherboard yep so in that neighborhood and then you know Plus no one puts one graphics card in the system like that so you're gonna need a couple 2080 TI's that gets you for another 2,500 bucks now you're at $7,500 you're gonna need six channel memory so you know yet does it Rick we're good we're back cool perfect okay so I'm just doing a clean install right now so we're removing the previous version of the drivers just so we don't run into any weird issues and then it's theoretically this means you don't need to d2 you in practice its I don't think quite perfect but it should be okay ddu is mostly for switching between graphics hardware providers so Intel AMD or Nvidia so weird that soon like very soon Intel's gonna be a legitimate gaming graphics hardware provider as opposed to just onboard oh I accidentally clicked the ad whoops I still remember how outraged people were when they first started integrating ads in the driver installation process - like why does my driver installer need internet access now that's like the least offensive thing like the least intrusive part of PC gaming oh man all right well I guess I might as well like you know start cleaning up then okay I guess can't really go anywhere I needed a bit for my screwdriver at some point oh yeah I moved it way over here I don't remember what I was planning to do with it oh oh that's interesting right I didn't even realize careful I didn't even realize as I was putting it together but no eks block here does not use a Torx bit it actually ended up using a hex bit so I did not need it wait no it is Torx how did I put those in how on earth did I put those in oh no I did use a hex trip no their hex sorry their hex okay in fairness to me they both have six something's so all right let's give it the know there's a Windows Update No okay let's just see if we don't need to reboot it's not funny Anthony see if we can get away with it I think we got away with one here all right all right all right cool blah blah blah no whoops no I don't put the donate button right where the next button is very clever all right I guess I can just can I just grab it from the folder on the NASS Oh which one is that though okay oh here it is sample blender files okay which one do you want to do how long does gooseberry take though yeah 15 minutes I don't know if we have 15 minutes what's the second most demanding classroom couple minutes okay let's do it wait how do you want to open it bloody hell blender how do you think I want to open a blender file oh I see yeah will that work hey did ha nice okay okay I can never remember how to start it Anthony sorry f12 is a shortcut dude dang it go alright so here we go so this evidently is whoa ouch so we only managed to hit 2.4 gigahertz on this particular load what our attempts like still in the neighborhood of about 40 degrees what's interesting too is we're not actually maxing out our CPU usage here which I'm not sure if you guys can see very well but we're only at about 76 77 % it's been kind of bouncing around a little bit there so that is going to be the I mean honestly at a big part of the reason that we haven't seen desktop processors and I've used the term desktop a little bit loosely I mean there's a desk and they're like chopped you know obviously as a workstation processor but we haven't seen desktop processors with these kinds of core counts ever before so there's been technological limitations but I mean AMD or Intel could have easily done a dual socket solution or something like that but even among the high end applications that are used by creative professionals or other professionals there are still going to be limitations to how many cores can be effectively utilized now I don't know if this is just something that requires some tuning on our part to sort of figure out Anthony took over the CPU reviews before we ever started using blender regularly so I had like literally haven't touched it in a couple of years as a benchmark but stay tuned because this is not the last you're gonna see this this is just us having some fun taking it out of the box but Anthony's gonna be working on a full review of this thing kind of trying to figure out what is it what is its place in the market should anybody actually buy this thing and he's gonna have a really interesting point of comparison so our buddies over at Puget Puget systems actually sent us over what is it the ninety nine nine DXE yeah so that's a really unique CPU that you can only get through what's called like an auction process so there's no such thing as just calling up your rap that tech data or cynics ring or micro or whatever and just being like yeah I'll have a ninety nine eight Exe until only sells them sporadically they'll just have like X number of them available and then you bid on them and so it's entirely a system integrator only SKU but it's really interesting because it's 14 cores unlike the 99 80 XE which has 18 course but they they are clocked - hi Helen back like this thing turbos - 5 gigahertz just like the 8 core processors on the consumer platform they like the 6 & 8 course 14 course very interesting I don't know what they would you know what the all core turbo is on that thing by any chance I don't remember either but it was like mind-bendingly hi so we'll compare it against that as well mostly just out of curiosity since neither of these are something that are going to be attainable to normal people whether it's because they don't have access to an Intel action or if it's because they don't have 5 grand for a CPU and motherboard combo I can give you guys sort of a preview of the conclusion mm-hmm actually this is funny I'm you know what I'm gonna try my best to get the conclusion exactly right it's an utterly unique product for those who need the absolute best of the best of performance in a handful of unusual workloads and or who need more single-threaded performance and many many course that is offered by intel's existing workstation or server products however if you're a regular desktop user or even a lightweight - mid-weight workstation user it is very unlikely that the W 30 195 X or whatever they call it is going to provide any additional value for you so we'd really recommend sticking with something else so that sound about right okay cool ah well thread reverse price-performance is going to look pretty good yes even with the what I thought were obscenely expensive is $500 motherboards yep da-da-da-da-da-da-da how many people are watching this hotness [Music] you guys are like you guys are soldiers at this point because this has been agonizing agonizing all around so many things were painful to watch to experience there we go okay and almost 5 minutes 13 seconds okay are we done 5 minutes 13 seconds wait yeah why is that purple I did load it from the network directly did that bug things up a little yep okay so this is a full minute and a half faster than the 99 80 XE which was the previous top of Intel's heap all right so I think that is pretty much the end of this marathon stream thank you guys for watching if you disliked you can hit that button but if you liked it hit like get subscribed or maybe consider checking out where to buy the stuff we featured at the link in the video description also down there is our merch store which has two shirts like this one and we'll have this cool hoodie later and our community forum which you should totally join go ahead and cut it Anthony

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Published: Fri Mar 01 2019