Open Talk with Bishop Jeff Arnold

[Music] I'm honored today to interview a man that needs no introduction bishop Jeff Arnold we are so honored to take a few moments interview you talk with you tap into your mind and have you communicate to us some of the great revelations that God has spoken to you brother Arnold I wanted to ask you first question is talk to us a little bit about your upbringing we know that you're from Brooklyn New York tell us a little bit about your family you know my mom and dad were fine folks they were not church-going people they sent us boys to church the Sunday School my dad went to church maybe on Christmas or Easter and that was it we didn't have any Bible reading or prayer or anything like that my mother was excommunicated Roman Catholic she was put out of the church because she married my dad who was a Protestant and you know my mom and dad raised those three boys and tried to keep fact my mom and my dad especially he had a strong philosophy about sports and he felt like because we were living in New York City he used to say if you can keep your kids involved in sports you can keep him out of gangs in street trouble yeah so all of us boys were excellent athletes we all played ball every kind of sport there was Plus we were the neighborhood supply we had all the stickball bats we have all the roller skates the hockey pucks we had all that stuff so you know we were just kids you know we just had a good time and my dad was very stern he was an old German made at a high and or and steel there was only one way to live that was his way everything else was you're in trouble yeah and my mom was very tender-hearted she was an Irishman McLaughlin and my folks were heavy on the sauce my mom was a heavy drinker my dad would drink a little bit and you know my dad was kind of scary he he was cheated out of his childhood because his dad died when he was 8 years old got up in the morning found his dad dead in a bed so he had to get out of school and go out in the streets and work 12 14 hours a day taking ashes out of the furnaces in this in the cellars yeah because his mother was German the sister was German they sprechen zie German come from the old country and it was hard on him so I think I think now I mean I look back when I talk of my brother Dickie my big brother then I understood my dad more after he died yeah because my brother explained to me cuz I used to one a hunka we never to grandpa's we only had one yeah and how come dad was always so strong now he he was fun to be with but he was strong and yeah and my mom was more tender-hearted I would go down the alleyway I get a catcher's mitt my dad got me a catcher's mitt because I played in the Little League yeah and so I'd say dead let's go have a catch well I'd go in the alley to have a catch and he burned them things into my hand till I was almost crying and he said you gotta learn how to pick him up lay him down and it's finally just hurt my hand so hard I just didn't want to play anymore and he just walk away yeah and you know you're recognized for being very astute intelligent did you get that from your father you think or was that your mom my dad my dad because my dad was cheated out of his childhood and an education he was always going to the library pursuing accounting or pursuing different things because he was a New York fireman but he he tried to better himself all the time because you know he just lost his childhood he didn't have anything and yeah and I and I didn't realize till after I was married and even when my dad was sick and died my brother explained to me he said you know I did Danny was rough and he was tough but you understand he had no mentor he had no father figure yeah and his mother used to beat him hit him with a broom all the time and so he had to live in a world rough and tumble yeah so he had no pity no tolerance for the welfare wackos he had no tolerance people that just sucked your thumb and just pity him he got out there and hustled he made her suck he was a survivor oh yeah exactly right and so he drilled that into us boys that you know nobody's gonna buddy your bread you're gonna have to work you're gonna have to apply yourself and get to it and his his if I can almost say feet-ish with my older brother and me my middle brother was a schnook he was very good but me and deke were both smart we all smart and he would drive us to get an education well we never understood why yeah until my father died and my brother came down to live down the street from me and we used to sit and talk and there was like a revelation he said daddy didn't want us to have to work in dogs he said brains cost more than backs right get your brain get an educated rive about brother Dickie stop swinging an axe on the fire department take the test become a lieutenant become a captain and that's what he did he said captain's carry flashlights and clipboards the rest of them carry axes and picks hoses and so but he would never say to us Reb here's why I want you to study and do your homework and I look and think you know daddy if you would have just said something to us sure instead of that did you do your homework house yeah how'd you do with your homework you got any homework yeah and and well even when he took us kids to the beach because Bruce was always failing in his classes he would have Bruce 50 mathematic problems to work in the car while we drove an hour and a half to the beach Wow poor Bruce was a nervous wreck now he could do the math but he was slow sure you know he would we'd be right in the car my dad and say Geoffrey how much is nine times 12 I said 108 Bruce how much does eight times six and his like and so then my dad would yell well Bruce got nervous and Bruce used to do this all the time he shook and he always been his fingernails he was like this and he quit school when he was 16 you know and it just won't work but Dicky went to college and then he stopped well my dad ended up hating Pentecost because I got out of the Air Force it was Vietnam 1966 I went to college to be a court stenographer I had six months left to get my degree but I was going to college eight hours a day and working eight to ten hours a night Wow and it was rough yeah and after a while I said you know I got one more semester to to go I said I gotta take off like I can't even breathe yeah and well when I took off that's when the Lord's thought a deal with me about coming to church well I wouldn't go back to get my degree this is what made my dad mad because after I was at a college for a year or two they offered caught for not stenographer Tuesdays and Thursdays at Broward Community College well I could go for free on the GI Bill yes I went before right the problem was we were the only church in Florida to head Bible study on Tuesday Wow so I went to sister Swinford who was the pastor and I said I got a chance to to go back to school for the next four or five months and I can get my degree yeah and and I said the problem is the school is on Tuesdays and Thursdays I'll have to miss Tuesday night what what do you think oh she looked at me she said son you're a new convert and the Lord's touched you and you got a great understanding of the scripture I don't think it would be good for you to just miss six months of Tuesday night Bible study I never asked another question I said the issues over I said no well my father went ballistic Wow and then he started saying you know realize you make 810 thousand dollars a year you start as a course that ography you make $36,000 a year look how much money you can give to the church look what a blessing could be but I wouldn't do it so he thought and told my other brother in New York that I had got into a cult that I was in some kind of Jimmy Jones kool-aid Diana cult right so this guy's in a cult man and and I said no and so then instead of going back to college I worked in the church that's just so amazing let's pause for a minute here you had this opportunity to advance but you elected to sacrifice your education because you were going to honor the word of your pastor that's because you were following that direction that's amazing because in this day and age you don't see people following their leaders there are watches I see the kids even taking jobs we were taught when I came in you didn't take a job unless you absolutely had to that caused you to miss church and if you moved you never moved until you found out you were going to a place that had a good church yeah well that whole scenario has changed nowadays it's almost like Church is a piece of junk yeah it's the last thing in my agenda and I always thought seek the kingdom of God first and His righteousness and all those stuff will be added to you did you just have a natural propensity though I mean you were just submitted to God that kind of support from listening to your pastor like that there has to be a deep submission to God was that just always in you when you were just I I just when I came in I think God just went yes before I was rebellious jerk I was robbing and stealing and getting drunk and living like a fool and when the Lord granted me repentance and I got baptized and came and got the Holy Ghost it was like oh nice and it was just this and yet I looked back in my life when I was 8 and 10 and 12 years old yeah I'd read the Bible I pray I go to Sunday school rallies I had this thing in me that I wanted to note Jesus if there was ever a religious film I went to see all the films when when Charlton Heston was the great 10 commandments yes Oh B DeMille I must have seen it three times yeah and Demetrius and the gladiators and Ben Hur and the greatest story ever told and and Moses and it was just I always had this even when they showed these 16 millimeter films in our little Church in Glendale I would love to watch those religious things you know and I said I was always mesmerised by that I always felt like so as a young man then you were always scholastically you were studious then I was I and that was funny because I was a criminal with the guys I mean we were sliver smart criminal we were slipping off drinking beer we were doing drag races and stuff yeah and yet they all made diesease and F's I'm a days and B's B pluses yeah I made 95 s and hundreds in it was like they were schmoes yeah but but I just studied and God just helped me to understand and so I would excel in all my classes all the time and it's just like I did my homework you know and I did that because my dad I mean that was like a till of the hug yeah we didn't do your homework man here comes judgment you know yeah that's interesting that's interesting talk to us for a moment here about your conversion I know that sister Arnold was instrumental in bringing you in we went we went to this Baptist Church I was we were getting a divorce I was a drunk my wife was tired at cuz her dad was a drunk and her mom died when she was two so her dad became a real drunk he worked for the railroad and he had four kids and he couldn't take care of him so he gave him away to the orphanage so they all were raised in orphanages for years well an aunt adopted her out of the orphanage and took her to Fred Kinsey's Church in Toledo Ohio first Apostolic Church and that's where she was baptized in Jesus name and her sister was baptized in Jesus name well when we went to this Baptist Church we go down the altar and we start praying we're the only two people in the whole place that's praying everybody else is just signing a card except in the Lord is a savior and this guy comes up and tells me you know just sign his card and you're saved I'm gonna saved okay I signed the card well then he go over to sister Arnold now you understand this church is packed to the walls and thousands of people in that place and and we're the only two people praying the rest are just accepting the Lord as a savior and and so they asked this to Arnall you know sign his card you be saved and she says saved well haven't even got the Holy Ghost yet I haven't he started talking in tongues what she said that man it was like a hand grenade in a small bathroom yeah and they wouldn't got all these guys and they started counseling with her and there was a big ruckus in the front they were talking to her and my wife was a total introvert very very shy yeah but she was going ballistic like I told you before I said I've been thrown out of whorehouses I've been thrown out of hotels I've been telling bus stations I've been thrown out of honky tonks I never been thrown out of a church Wow that preacher turned around and it was the mercy of God he turn around said please escort this couple out of my sanctuary they are disturbing my service and let's pray that they accept the Lord and so I went out I had my face was so red man yeah and I walked out in the back and then they started took us in the back and three or four ever thought of telling us all these scriptures and just believe on the Lord you'll be save accept him as your personal Savior and my wife totally introvert she jumps up off that seat and says Geoffrey these guys are lying to you they are lying to you and I'm embarrassed man I'm going panic I'll run a church you know until you feel alive you know I'm raising drunk don't tell them said when I was a little girl I came at an orphanage and I went to brother Kinzie's church and I was baptized in Jesus name and I never received the Holy Ghost but I saw people get the Holy Ghost and I know you get the Holy Ghost and they laughed at her they'd go to old mrs. Arlette that was just for the first century church that doesn't happen now she said you're lying you're lying and so I was embarrassed and I said well I'm sorry thank you very much and we walked out in the hot Sun it was probably 95 Miami yeah I'm standing outside in that hot Sun and my wife's mad she is mad yeah she said you're not gonna take me back to this three god bunch of idiot church ever again I said what he said these people worship three gods I said three gods many Indians only worship the Great Spirit what do you mean three guys he said these people are crazy he said I ain't coming here now if you want to come here fine and it's just me you find me an apostolic Pentecostal Jesus named church and I looked at her I said who's know once I kind of church yeah I've been to Baptist Presbyterian Episcopalian Church of God Foursquare Nazarene what in the world is that yeah she said you take me to a church that baptized in Jesus name believes in the Holy Ghost talking in tongues and I said what is the Holy Ghost what is talking in tongues I didn't know what she was talking with Jason grant it in her just says a little girl and when we went evangelized we went up and preached for brother Fred Kinzie and very Kinzie yeah we held them a revival yeah it was mind-boggling these little old ladies with their little Pentecostal bun yeah they came up to my wife and saying little patty Howard the little redheaded freckle-faced girl that was so quiet and so timid you were in our Sunday School class Wow we never thought you heard anything we told you and that became my catalyst for years when I traveled I did all kinds of sunny schools sunny school rallies and I preached through those teachers I said look I am the results of you sweet people teaching a kid the truth about God even though she left and they didn't know where she was and then I met her years ago when I was in the Air Force and then that truth when they tried to put that false doctrine down at her she just kind of threw up with this oneness and said no no I've been taught better than this and so we went to preach for bun sister Kinzie man it was like it was phenomenal because you know all these old people saying we never thought you have believed we believe you know and that's wonderful that's wonderful I know that you've had an encounter I mean the grace of God the calling of God to salvation was reaching for you even before you went to a Pentecostal church where the Lord was waking you up oh yeah when I was a boy I had a tendency in my life like I said watching these movies and films yeah reading Bible books reading the Bible and I just know it can't be me there was something God put in me somehow because I didn't get any encourage from my family yeah they didn't read the Bible they didn't pray I mean we weren't like it was just something God did it even my two brothers they thought I was a nutcase yeah because I would have this religiosity thing when Billy Graham came to Madison Square Garden as a kid we'd go over the nose Crusades and I'd accept the Lord as my personal Savior and then I'd get saved in high school and I'd get saved here not sure I'd sign another card and son and and I when I was in the Air Force doc my first year I went to the chapel and it went to a service and I watched his film black and white film they were showing about all these people and African stuff that all got saved and got delivered and I became so discouraged and so depressed because they hadn't introduced a doctrine about [Music] predestination of the soul yeah and when I saw these people accepting the Lord get anything I walked out of there saying I'm damned I'm doomed forever yeah I must be one of those guys that's predestined because I've been saved 10 12 15 times I'm still whoring around and I'm robbing places I'm packing a gun I'm stealing things I'm going crazy I've been in out of jail I guess I just can't ever be saved and I just took a dip boom yeah this almost became an alcoholic just constantly just drinking Wow and then when Patti and I got married my Patti didn't drink he didn't smoke she didn't do nothing and we were like The Odd Couple yeah we should have never married each other because I was a Hellraiser honky-tonk ER and yeah she couldn't even dance yeah just sat there when I'd go out and take her on a date I'd have a drink and she'd drink a coke yeah I know and I'm thinking how in the world but God orchestrated all that stuff you know and the Holy Ghost woke you up even before you even came to church oh yeah man that was a that was a miraculous thing I was sleeping three nights in a row yeah first night just something just shoved me and I woke up and I looked at my wife she was sound asleep I thought I heard the window rattle or something I get up and checked there so what was all that man I'm wide awake 3 o'clock in the morning I lit up a cigarette grabbed a can of beer sat down and just drank a little while I was freaked out went back to bed next night something shakes me again I wake up whoa why why sound asleep I walked check the house all around I said man I'm I'm getting the DTS comes in it man I'm gone third night wakes me up oh my god I hear this voice you're running out of time it's time to turn your life around and get right Wow he's scared to fire I rented this Doral tonight ask her I woke her up I said Patti Patti you know and she goes huh what I said if God would have called me to be a missionary to China would you go she looked at me and she said missionary China Jeffrey you're drunk again you'd stop drinking I said honey I'm as sober as a judge on Sunday I said I think God's dealing with me well and Patti looked at me she said who's dealing with you I said let's go to church so that's what was in her she's dead later it was our last straw maybe we could save our marriage by going to church so we went in a big Baptist Church and then we and then we ended up now what the thing I need to tell you why I'm so adamant about miracles signs and wonders in a supernatural yeah but I went through that little Pentecostal church we go every time at 11 o'clock while i standed christians you had Sunday school at 10 you had Church at 11 well they had a combination service so every time I went in at 11 they were just finished and singing and sisters Hoover started preaching and I said man this is a great church man they don't take up no offerings yeah you're only here 30 minutes you're in and out of here man this is great yeah well about the third time I'm sitting in that service all of a sudden I feel this wind just blow on my face now I worked for Florida pound light and I used to have two green substations and substations you had to have a hardhat and when you got close to those transformers and regulators there was an energy force made the hair on your arms stand up or on your head all of a sudden I'm sitting there and the hair of my arms stand up and all my legs and I'm gone Wow and it was like a giant milkshake just came down my head all the way down inside me and I'm freaking out man yeah I am freaking out and I look at patty and I go you gonna ask I said patty I go what is this she says what is what I said don't you feel this yeah she says you're feeling the Holy Ghost I said what is the Holy Ghost she said it's the spirit of Jesus that comes to live in you when you're born again I said I don't know what you're talking about here's the miracle I don't know what you're talking about but this is where we're staying she said why I said this is the same stuff that woke me up those three nights I've just always had a propensity towards the supernatural and the spiritual that's amazing and that's why when I came in Pentecost you don't have to convince me nothing about that yeah I'd already had an experience as a drunk yeah I wouldn't had experience man being lost when God walked in and with Wow and so I think God just did that for me because I had a mind debatable argumentum but God did dad said now you don't have to have no arguments now you know it's real I did and then when I saw the seeking the Holy Ghost and the pretzel dog would come on me shake I'd feel the same thing I said that's you I know you're here that's you that's wonderful very pretty so when you got the Holy Ghost Hall far in between there was the Genesis where you felt your calling in term oh I was I was working in our little church back home brother and sister Swynford had little Church in Hollywood and I was the youth leader I was the bus driver I was the lawn cutter my wife was a church cleaner you know we were like jack of all trades master of none we only had a little bitty church and but I just had this insatiable thing where I I'd study every day for hours I read Bible I just read it and just try to understand it lay across the bed and just try to read it you know and just but it's funny that you asked me that because I had a desire for that when I was young that's why I went to these Crusades and accepted the Lord is my Savior to get saved I really wanted to be saved but it I was always given a bad deal do you think that you were feeling God calling you into his presence even when you were aboard but oh yeah when I was just a kid because I just when my buddies would be out stealing tires and doing stuff you know and yeah I'd be spending my lunch in high school in the library reading the Bible just renew Babak is that I was fascinated about Jesus and the miracles and the gospel and the kingdom you know and I just said oh my god that leads us to another point your ministry is very centered on miracles and the supernatural that is that has always been with you then as well since I first started yeah I just like it's always I've had this desire but in anybody to teach me even right now in Pentecost I don't know of a handful of mentors in the whole movement that are seeing anybody how to heal the sick or cast out Devils that's why I said in that thing the other day when I was at Texas Bible School and I mean they blessed me and they were so kind but it wasn't only them I asked for Bible schools when I was at the general conference do you teach on miracle signs and wonders no do you teach on faith and healing and deliverance no I'll go what in the world are you guys doing well we're learning sermons and we're learning how to build a church I said how do you build a church without the supernatural why do you think that is why do you think people are intimidated in my opinion yes in your opinion opinion I said I think people are intimidated because they don't know and they haven't seen much mm-hmm and they would just rather ignore it maybe fear of failure oh that's the next thing a fear of failure and that's why I always tell people I said how could you fail if you pray for somebody yeah I said you can't heal them I can't heal them you can't give me by the Holy Ghost I'm always asking people when I preach it places how many of you people have ever prayed for somebody get the Holy Ghost almost everybody raised their hand I said how many of you pray for people to get the Holy Ghost and they didn't get the Holy Ghost almost the same bunch of people raised their hand I said now I'm gonna ask you the great question and how many you are dumb enough after it didn't work with that person that you were dumb enough to go pray for somebody else to get the Holy Ghost everybody raised their hand and I said why didn't you let your failure hold you hostage yeah I said that's why when I pray for people I have people all the time saying what are you doing people don't get healed I said that's easy next what are you gonna do on there I mean you say next when you pray for people to get the Holy Ghost sure you say next when you invited somebody to church and they said no drop dead yeah and I said so I'm going next because I think that we have a mandate to magnify the Lord you know Paul said I want the Lord to be magnified in my body whether life or death most of us just wanted by death what about life yeah and I said if when I said to you if Jesus didn't intend for us to practice healing and praying for the sick then he got beat half to death and the whipping post for nothing yeah because the whipping post was for stripes so that we could be healed not Calvary Calvary's for sin whipping post was for sickness Sheriff and they're both in the atonement but me I've searched for 30 years I've met a few people that God has used and anointed different times and prayed and had miracles done but not even a handful and and when I asked him they don't teach you they just well just there were some of the most notable miracles that come to mind that you've seen notable I was in Canada a couple of years ago at Raymond Woodward and that guy asked me to pray for his little boy that had his left eye was blind and he had something wrong to pupil they'd never see and we just laid hands on prayed for him and his eye just opened slap up and it went all over Canadian Internet yeah and from that a lady with a after fight arm yeah she got pray phone and she went back up God healed him and then I was in England yeah and a little girl asked me she said it's funny I wish you'd have been a poster poster because they can't talk right in England poster poster would you pray for me poster and I was preaching at a General Conference and I said what's your honey what do you I said I've got a virus in my ear last year and the virus ate my eardrum away I don't have an eardrum and in my natural carnal mind I said mean why couldn't I just get a fever blister or a paper cut or something like that some lady doesn't even have an eardrum mm-hmm and yet the Holy Ghost just says pray for so I asked her I said let me preach a little bit and I'll pray for you well preaching didn't go good at all so I asked her to come up on a platform and I did a little test on her ear can you hear me yes I went on the other side can you hear me she couldn't hear me I said how many she said - I said how many she couldn't hear me I said no I couldn't heal a headache on a dead frog but Jesus is a healer I put my finger in a year and I said now honey let's believe God I said Lord this girl's got her whole life she's seven or eight years old she doesn't need to be deaf open her ears to show these people that you're alive because these people act like you ain't alive Jesus name command this hearing to open create a a hearing in her ear that's missing in Jesus name that's as loud as I got and leaned over to her left ear and I said I whispered I said can you hear me she screamed and scared me half to death she went and I said what's the matter she said my ear just popped open my ear just popped open praise go the place went up in smoke yeah well people started running down to the altar pray for me pray for me pray for me well I started praying for everybody blind eyes deaf ears I pray for everybody I'm not getting anybody healed and I'm going what is going on Lord you just healed that girl's ear I felt the Holy Ghost say to me they think this is magic I went what he said they think you can fix them they are not looking at me they are looking at you so I stopped the whole altar call me we had thousands of people whose general conference yeah and I told them when I felt the Lord said I said come on I'll get your eyes off me I can't fix nobody the Lord healed that girl I didn't heal that girl yeah I said come on let's repent and let's pray again fine they prayed I said let's pray again in the next ten minutes three people each one of them had one ear deaf and it just went and they opened up then I went down to the end and there was a lady there and she had a pair of slacks on and earrings and you know and I think well she's probably new or she's not a part of our church and yeah so I said and what do you want she said I'll go up his tumor in my stomach and you could see is like looks like she had a basket ball in her slacks yeah she said I got this tumor in my stomach I said ma'am do you believe Jesus can fix it of course I do of course I do I said well get him to fix it right now and I asked the girl said put your hand on her belly right now and I put my hand on her hand and I said in the name of Jesus I command this tumor to disappear just like you spoke to the fig tree and while I was talking to her both of our hands went and gone wonderful praise God that's wonderful so the gospel when the gospel is presented it's not only designed to save us but to heal us I did a thing for whole missions I taught all the whole missionaries I gave him all my healing stuff I said here's what you need to ask him what gospel did Jesus preach all through the Gospels Matthew 4 Matthew 9 Matthew 10 it said he went everywhere preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God what gospel did he preach not acts 2:38 there was no acts 2:38 right the word gospel is just good news so he was preaching the good news of the kingdom of God he was the king he brought with him the kingdom and then he showed them what the kingdom was like and in the kingdom of God there ain't no cancer there ain't no deafness there's no polio there's no muscular dystrophy there's none and so anytime you brought Jesus into a situation what's ever anti kingdoms got to go it has to go so when he said it's the cypress eye he said he gave them authority and power right preach heal the sick cast out Devils preach the kingdom of God he said if I would the finger of God have brought unto you healing knowing that the kingdom of God has come by you so what we really need to do in Pentecost is to start preaching the kingdom of God and the kingdom of God is the divine reign of the king the word kingdom is a very interesting word Bazeley ax okay it means domain or do of a king yeah it's a hyphenated word yeah so wherever the King shows up his Dominion shows up yes and so every time this one gets me every time Jesus made a devil he threw him out yeah we meet Devils and we like them yeah so every time Jesus met sickness and disease he said you got to go yeah why cuz I'm the king and I'm manifesting the kingdom of God so in my daily praying I'll do it today Lord teach me how to manifest and demonstrate the kingdom of God yeah because the kingdom of God is not you know meat drink righteousness peace and joy in the Holy Ghost kingdom of God is Authority and power yeah and so I always I have a book that I have about the clash of two kingdoms sure and when when Moses met with Pharaoh Pharaoh didn't let the slaves go because Moses had a supernatural experience with a talking bush yeah he let him go because Moses was the baddest dude in town yeah he confronted with the magician's four times they duplicated his stuff yeah but after the rest of it they didn't want nothing to do it and he said oh no let's get ready to rumble let's go and so he just did it yeah at the end of the day the devil's not intimidated about doctor and he's not intimidated about what we say we believe he's intimidated with power so they said you're saying we talk about I'm entering Jenny forever we are supposed to do two things we are supposed to declare that's doctor yeah and demonstrate yes we are supposed to preach and perform yeah and everywhere Jesus went he would need to heal a few people and then teach him or he would teach a few people and then heal him yeah but he always manifested the kingdom and yeah I don't understand even in our own movement why people were supposed to be preachers and leaders don't practice healing and miracles when Jesus 14 times in four Gospels he said I do only those things which please my father and He healed them and He healed them all and He healed everyone that had need of he so if healing is not the will of heaven then Jesus fought his own father right because he went around healing everything yes I mean this and I talked to a wonderful leader that we both know and he asked me one time he said well brother Jeffrey he said if you believe people are gonna get healed how they gonna die I said I'm glad you asked me that if you read Psalms 107 it says and the Lord taketh their breath and they are no more it didn't say the Lord gave him cancer and they are no war or gave him the muscular dystrophy or diabetes no he just took their breath I said what did he do with Stephen they were bashing his head in and he said he went to sleep and the Lord just took his breath and he was gone you don't have to die with disease I ask people all the time Rev if your dad or a mom would you for your child's birthday give them leukemia yes or no I've never had a parent yes I said would you give your child braces and crutches or a bicycle and a tricycle would you give your child muscular dystrophy would you give your child blindness and deafness and this for matiee every one of them says no I said then what makes you think god has given this to us yeah yeah don't you get it in Genesis 1 in Genesis 2 there's no sickness there's no disease in Revelation 21 and 22 there's no sickness there's no disease because the end is going to be like it was in the beginning but in the interim when the devil walked in and obedience to disobedience took place the devil brought in two things disease and death you know disease and death Jesus turning around said well I'm the king I'm taking care of disease and I'm taking care - Wow and so it's like but people die now yeah but that's because he's got a time appointed for the resurrection yeah but but still I think we're supposed to be fighting against disease and I ask people Reverend if you people don't believe in healing okay you don't believe in healing and miracles why do you hypocrite take medicine yeah why do you go to the doctor why do you have surgery if you don't believe it's God's will for you to be better sure see the problem is we believe it's it's okay to be better with medicine but we're not think it's okay to be better with miracle treating it not solving it yes treating that solver like is we need a revelation of God's love and then a desperation actually see it happens by believing him what he said or seeing him as you stated yesterday I ask people all the time III was in a debate with a guy the other day I said fine you don't believe in the supernatural the miraculous and healing fine give me one scripture you got four Gospels give me one scripture where anybody needed deliverance or healing and they came to Jesus and he said no give me one yeah just one give me one scripture Jesus ever did the stupid stuff that you say I'm learning so much about the love of God God's letting my pancreas fall out on the street yeah he's letting my kidney slide into my sock I said are you kidding me don't you understand that the Lord gave you the Holy Ghost to learn about the love of God yeah and the nature of God and the ways of God said he doesn't have to give you disease yeah now I realize that Paul talks on the Corinthian epistle where some people are made sick and some people prematurely die but he says because they're not discerning the Lord's body hmm it's not because it's not the will of God to heal people yeah that's amazing that's amazing you know you've been such an inspiration to thousands of people in for decades throughout for decades and you've maintained this sense of relevance and realness that you connect whether you're a youth or whether you're an elder how is it that you connect with people on that level whatever age bracket they're in or whatever generation they're in you're able to reach them you know that's a hard question to answer doc I didn't know I did that I just to me Jesus is so real and the kingdom is so real it's not way out there yes here right it's here and I am so convinced that God loves us and cares about us and wants us to win at life no matter what your age bracket might be no matter what your past has been sure I said and so it's like when I get ready to try to teach or preach to people I feel like I'm an ambassador I'm a representative I'm an instrument I'm a vehicle in the hand of God to touch people I feel like I've been putting this thing to try to introduce people to the Lord whether they're young or old and and and you know one of the battles that I've had doc over these years is trying to move Pentecostal mindsets we're great on doctrine and we're great on discipline and we're great on modesty and morality but we're not very good on taking risks Sherriff years ago my dear friend TF Tenny I loved him man he was a great man in my life brother 10 he asked me one time he said brother Jeffrey I want to ask you a question how do you spell faith I said FAI th he said that's your problem that's not the way you spell faith I said no how do you spell and he said R is K yeah and he said and our people don't want to take any risks yeah they want to play it safe yeah I had a man the other day I was praying and he said well what happens when you pray for somebody and it doesn't work I said I didn't make him any sicker right I tried to help him what have you done besides giving him the card to your doctor yeah I said remember the medical people God loved these sweet people and all the great things they do but they call that the practice of medicine yeah Jesus has never said I'm gonna practice right I'm gonna try right never happens and what bothers me is that besides acts 2:38 our candy stick is always Hebrews 13 and eight Jesus Christ the same yes today forever but we don't act like he's the same yesterday today and forever yeah see there was a man who was the the head theologian if I got it right from Princeton University his name was BB Warfield if you do your study BB Warfield was the man that introduced what I consider that damnable doctrine of cessation which is the ceasing of all signs wonders and miracles at the death of the last apostle the so-called Christian world accepted that because they didn't have no miracles right they didn't have those signs and wonders said that fit in just right with their doctrine but that's that's not right so they're in a real misdirection if you ever read aw Tozer even toes are said in many of his books he said that doctrine of cessation is the one doctrine that has not one scriptural background or platform to back it up it's a bunch of baloney and it has a sass ain't at the faith of people cuz it's like and once I heard an old guy preaching yesterday expectation is the birthplace for them Iraq I heard him too you gotta expect something yeah everybody that ever came towards the Lord their faith was out there they were expecting something they were reaching for something they were desperate for something but it's kind of like well if it happens it happens I'm going well you know I got people I love I got a wife and a daughter a grandson and I pray for them they get sick I I'm bound to heavens and ask God to do do as thou has said there's a wonderful scripture doc that David puts in two places he says the Lord delighted in me therefore he delivered me hmm and so I'm wondering if sometimes we're not experiencing more deliverance because we're not bringing much delight to God so that brought me to another question here as I see you unpacking this revelation and insight and his passion for healing and miracles think a lot of times people go through failures and the failures hold their faith hostage no doubt about how do you rise above that because I because I'm I just don't believe that failure is final I just don't believe that I I just say no even when I pray for my dearest friends and prayed until they were died okay I cannot you know this description job that says the thing which the Lord has appointed unto me that will he do and many such things are with him there are divine appointments from God that he doesn't explain himself I had to deal with that one one of the sweetest ladies in our church died and she was at muscular dystrophy had been healed then she went back to rushes back to a walker back to a wheelchair and then she died and she rolled over in bed that day in a hospice and said brother Arnold please get Jesus to heal me I said honey I'm doing everything I can to get him to heal you I don't know what else to do I prayed I went downstairs when I left she died I went home I felt like every devil that could belch out of hell he was mocking me and laughing at me because I've been preaching a series to our church about the miraculous and the supernatural yeah and he goes what do you do with all your healing junk now what are you gonna do with all your healing junk now well I went to prayer I was brokenhearted I couldn't understand what had happened and I felt I felt like the Lord dealt with me and but he dealt with me not nice he dealt with me Stern I felt the Lord say to me can I not do with my own what I will or do I have to ask you and the churches permission Wow made my hair stand up on my head yeah I said well Lord you can't he said that girl was mine she had my spirit she had my name she had served me all these years and I decided it was time for her to come home what's that to you you deal with that then he gave this next thing to him he said remember son Peter and James were both arrested and the church fasted and prayed and came before me for their deliverance so I sent a sword in and I took James's head off and I said an angel in to set Peter free what's that to you Wow so we've got to trust him in testing times beyond that whatever the Lord decides to do in the end great prophet well I think he was a prophet TW Barnes was a great friend oh sure he was a prophet okay brother Barnes told me personally that when we pray and we believe we must also include in our equation the sovereignty of God and contrary which some people say that they're gonna put a scripture in God's face and slap them all around and make him obey he said son God ain't gonna obey nobody ya said he is a law unto himself yeah in his sovereignty if he says no I'm not going to heal this one I'm going to take this one yes I'm gonna heal that one I'm not gonna let him die he's sovereign so I can only appeal to him and say Lord that's insightful what else can I do yeah and I don't feel that's a cop-out but there are times when I go to pray for somebody that I feel like the Lord gives me a word of knowledge or direction but there's lots of times that I don't have any word so I'm just praying in generality with the moral of God I'm appealing to your stripes you said that if we would abide in you and you your word would abide in us we can ask what we will and would be done sure so I'm asking sure what else I mean why are we afraid to ask right so what have you get a no from God you can't deal with that yeah I mean this right if he's sovereign and if he's God and we've got to be able to hear the yes and here the no let me ask you now why did he let James get killed and Peter live why they both apostles sure he said no and the other partner was the early church had a miracle worker his name was Stephen yeah you read it 6 & 7 of Acts yeah he's doing mighty wonders and signs a man of great faith and power healing the sick all over the place what does God do ah bashes brains in with stones yeah what in the world we don't need we don't need the miracle worker killed kill some of those loonies that don't believe nothing yeah he goes no I finished with him his his course is over it's over that's all by a lot certain time to certain people it's done you know sitting here and hearing the insights and how you can recall recall scripture at will is that been something with you since the beginning when you begin to read the Bible or is there something you develop through the years with the Word of God began to be inscribed in your heart Wow I think it got stronger progressively and and I think this is just me yeah I told you before I've been a loner all these years I mana loner okay I'm not into clique and I'm not in the club yeah I couldn't get elected dog catcher in this movement fine yeah I'm not bitter about it I'm just a loner but I told the Lord just this past week I said you know Lord to make up for the lack of friends you've given me my Bible in my books mm-hmm and I've just become an advert student and I study and I study and I read and here's what maybe this could be the premise of what you're asking me I used to preach a sermon years ago called spiritual reserves have preached it a long time and it was all about what did David kill Goliath with and I've had people give me all kinds of crazy answers and I said no David killed Goliath with what David took time to put in the bag and I said we got a generation he put nothing in the bag wonderful but they want to take something out when they got a battle yeah you you can't make a withdrawal if you ain't made a deposit yes yes and so you know it's like trying to reach in the bag I'm gonna get you soon as I can find my weapons that I don't have yeah and so I I read scriptures lots of I don't understand yeah I'm not a Greek scholar I'm not a Hebrew scholar I but you are revelations I searched and I reach and I ask God for understanding I said Lord I just did it the other night pray and I said Lord once again it's Jeffrey you know been anybody I don't have nobody I have nobody I have nobody in this whole movement that ever calls me and wants to talk scripture with me nobody I have nobody that wants to make me take me to play golf I have nobody okay I'm just like a I'm a problem I'm a stepchild or something fine I said Lord would you be my professor would you be my tutor would you teach me I'm not trying to be a prima donna or a hot dog lord I'm just saying I don't have anybody nobody ever calls me and wants a compare Scripture with Scripture with me mm-hmm so I'm all by myself so I have all this then I keep studying and reading and I'm trying to understand and learn because I guess my prayer Rev has I just prayed it again and I I stopped praying it for a while that I felt no I'm gonna go back to praying it I've asked God for 40 years Lord I want to be great for you yeah I don't want to be mundane apathetic and mediocre yeah as I told you a mediocre are always at their best I don't want to be mediocre yeah and I don't want to just get by we got too many people it's just getting by sure I said I want to be the greatest preacher of Revelation truth that you have on this planet not for ego not for vanity somebody's going to be the greatest I'm volunteering I just want to be the greatest communicator of truth to help the body of Christ yeah that's all I want to do because nothing else matters just to inspire people and and not only inspire Rev but to inform people excuse me you can get inspired and go flat in 15 minutes because inspiration is the worst octane to run your life huh yeah cuz you're only hyper for a little bit yeah but if you can impregnate people with information and they perceive it information can produce inspiration yeah and it can make people hungry I ask people sometimes Reb what would you do if the Lord Jesus Christ step right up here in front of this pulpit would you sit there and do your little church deal yeah would you break out of your little subtle nest and come on up and say I need a touch from God I need you to help me I said I'm sorry that I'm not more powerful and I am I wish I had every day I pray for the gift of faith and the working of miracles and the gifts of healings I pray every day for that that you would flow through me that you would just help people people the hurting people need help and and to me when the Lord demonstrates his supernatural power there's no argument against that yeah you can fussing cuss all you won't do about interpretation about doctrine fussing cuss all you want to about 28:19 in Matthew or acts 2:38 you can fuss all you won't do but when God opens a blind eye or lifts a [ __ ] out or makes a cancer disappear what are you gonna do with that right and so I think the proofs in the pudding yeah and so that's you know I think that when we just consider the demonstration of God's power God's power always flows through a vessel that is squeezed and has to deal with the pressures of life and you're kind of chosen for that because your way to conveyed the Word of God is that we're sitting here having this conversation I was just thinking it's so relevant because it's real to you because you've dealt with those personal feelings yourself and people then therefore can relate to that personally what are some of the most memorable messages that you have preached and memorable messages that have touched you personally I will not die in my dilemma oh yes refuge from despair it's time to come out of the cave yeah lives three greatest words I am persuaded Wow I mean I though I feel like I've been so honored by brother Anthony Mangan's kindness to me he's been kind to me to have ever invited me 30 some-odd years ago to preach it because of the times the first time we had it because of the times he told me I was closing it I was so intimidated I didn't want to go yeah I'm saying you got all the big guns and Pentecost these people are baptizing mannequins in there talking in tongues yeah I said I don't have no revival church I got trouble Church I got problems in his church yeah I'm no revivalist I'm not teaching flipcharts and 300 people paying ties that didn't happen with me all these guys you got up there they got rockin revival churches fair i got a disaster on my hands but it was like well you're gonna be embarrassed if you don't show up Thursday cuz you're closing the service out I was so intimidated JTP was there more you was there TW Barnes was there Jim Larson was there I mean my god man Mike Williams was there Anthony was there TF Teddy GA Mangan's sister Mangan give me a break yeah what am I doing here right and of all the years as God is my witness I'm not lying in 31 years 32 years of preaching I have gone every year with a sense of inferiority and intimidation Wow I just have always felt like I told him for years I got no business preaching this yeah but for some reason God would give me something that was so spectacular yeah and so amazing that would it blew my mind yeah I was just like wow he would just give me these great thoughts man yeah and and it just helped people and it's still helping people no I I mean they put all their stuff on Facebook or what is it's Facebook Facebook okay and and what's the other one YouTube YouTube that's the one you saw and they've got these messages all and I have people send in our secretary Gayle emails because I don't have a computer yeah so they send them all the Gail and I sometimes you give me stacks up watched your message from 20 years ago yeah and I encouraged me and helped me you know and and I said well you know that's I guess that's one of the things that I miss not being a part of be OTT yeah I just but you know it's time you go into a different season sure so now I'm in a different season and I'm just I'm just trying to I've never been I've never been in love with my my image yeah whatever that is right I just I've always just wanted to be honest honest about my morals honest about my money honest about my affections honest about my lust my anger my frustration I told the sweet people that Texas Bible College I said I think God all he's ever asked us to do is be transparent yeah what is wrong with being transparent sure only political figures have a problem with being transparent only people that are heads of certain things have a problem whether it's the political world or is the Pentecostal world yeah what's what we're just being naked Lee open and honest I failed I messed up I'm sorry yeah what's wrong with that right has there any been ever been a time in your ministry where you felt like quitting where things got so hard so difficult you just thought I'm done well you know when I was building our church and I got ripped off $800,000 sure and it wasn't so much the money it was certain people in our church that I had been their pastor and their friend and help them with their stupid kids and help them with their dumb stuff that they just walked out they just spit in my face and just walked out you know I just look one guy said you deserve everything bad that happens to you and I hope you lose everything you have and you know what I'm going did I do I built two churches before this and had them both paid off right and and I put over a million dollars in this building right now I didn't ask these guys to rob me of all this money yeah but I was being blamed for it you know I was being damned and condemned I was I was picking low cotton buddy I was yeah I was really I walked out after hey Ronnie - they got sheetrock in New Jerusalem I may not go I said I was walking out the night I'd been there about 12 or 14 hours trying to hang at sheetrock and sheetrock mud and trying to fix all the messes that they made and I walked out to the car and it was lonely I was the only guy there and I was walking out and I started sobbing and I literally fell against my car and I slid down the side of the car just shaking uncontrollably and I I said to myself I wonder if I'm having a nervous breakdown I wonder if this is happening to me I said this can't happen to me great peace have they that love thy law nothing shall offend them yeah Lord I don't know why you're allowing this to happen to me I don't know why these people stole this money from me and and I'm looking like I'm a jerk and I'm an idiot and I'm a fool and I said I don't know what the deal is and it was like the Lord just whispered to me well I'm crying he said well you keep asking me that you'd like to be like me yeah that you want to be more like me and I said well I do say well yeah but you're thinking about walking on the water raising Lazarus casting out Devils healing the sick I'm thinking more like being maligned blaspheme ridiculed misunderstood sure I went and it was like I finally sat in the car and I said you know Lord I'm not anything like you yeah after all these years I still let myself get mad about stuff I still get frustrated about stuff I get angry over things I said Lord that's not like you I need a change I need you to help me change so I was railed at yet he opened not his mouth Wow here's here's a very interesting question it's very pressing what would you say to your younger self if you Rea would have a conversation with yourself to your younger self well you know unfortunately I did we weren't a Christian practicing family yeah I mean I think we had well your younger self as a minister when you always a young American I I probably would have surrounded myself with more great men because I just I didn't have anybody sure I'm first-generation Pentecost yeah all my folks are dead I buried my mom and dad I buried both my brothers yeah my wife's folks are all dead we have nobody sure even when we were in young evangelist we had no place to go at Christmas and Thanksgiving folks to bail us out and give us money and all that stuff Sheriff and so we were just loners we were just loners and I wish I could have I wish I could have had some people like well brother Tommy Kraft took us under his wing and he loved me and Patty and he's been one of the dearest friends to me and and TF Teddy and I was going to ask you that was outside to be people that inspired was key and and also you know some preachers that I I think Wayne hunt he's probably one of the greatest preachers in the whole Pentecostal movement and share every time he's preached he's just moved me because he's just got such a positive something you know yeah and he's got this Drive and Anthony Mangan's got the most gut-wrenching evangelism I've ever heard every time I hear him preach I feel like I need to quit my job and go get an honest job and every time I invest Alain Magnan I said here we go he's gonna knock my brains out again I'm gonna be bleeding when this is all over you know but it was like but but just the fact that God put some people in my life yeah I just I wish I'd have had more fellowship with people you know I'm an old Buzzard I don't have any fellowship at all nobody yeah I mean out of my home church I mean I'm just by myself sure and so it's kind of like like Elvis are you lonesome today yeah I am lonesome tonight well you know I just want to say from myself that has not only admired you from a distance for many years before I even met you I knew you from a distance through CDs so back in those days through tapes and the inspiration that you've provided and how you've elected to isolate yourself with God and just allow yourself to grow and gathered words how you have minister to meet you personally these past few years and to see what a genuine Christian you are and I have heard and talked to thousands of people through the years and they love you this movement loves you people love you because you're a gift to the body of Christ but one thing about being a gift is sometimes you don't realize how special you really are because it's a gift you're saying stuff that blows my socks you know I was like when I got retired and I turned the church over to brother Tony and he's doing great wonderful man I was in a catch to 22 dilemma yeah damned if I do and damned if I don't 45 years I'm tired I've got millions of miles on my rear end going everywhere yeah I wanted to sit down and take time with Patti okay because I watched my dad bury my mom yeah when she was only 50 and my dad was a word shoot and after that happened yeah and I said you know what Patti we've sacrificed three churches all these hundreds of thousands of dollars that we lost I said you and I paid it all off ourselves his church didn't give a dime for that we paid it all off I took the blame for everything fine well now they got a multi-million dollar complex free and I'm just like a Schmo from Kokomo yeah I said I want a Patti we're just going she don't like to travel she don't like to travel yeah but just to stay home she feeds a raccoon she feeds the deer in the backyard she's very happy and yet she says Jeffrey the caller gods on you God has raised you up you have to go I'll be here when you come home it's always been that let me tell you when we lost our first baby we were evangelizing I almost lost my wife too and we had to take her in the hospital to save her life and we went to see TWU bars I was doing a Louisiana camp see your camp mm-hmm and we swung by to see brother Barnes because I heard he was a miracle man mm-hmm and I asked him to pray for us and he had those beady eyes you ask this darling he's scared hard after death man he looked at you like he saw an x-ray yeah and I mean he was just as sweet and kind as could be countrified yeah and he called my wife girl I'm talking to you girl then he looked at her and he said now girl he said you're going to have to learn no forgotten Jesus said you're gonna have to learn to live lonely and I looked at my wife we didn't know what he was talking about he said the Lord's use your husband with all these puppet shows and these little magic tricks that he does but that's not his full ministry he said the Lord used that to give him exposure but he's going to start training other people to do that for Sunday School or whatever and he said and God is going to raise him up and make him a mighty voice in a mighty preacher for this movement in the world I was stunned I was just a little Schmo doing Johnny's Crusades yeah nobody hardly ever asked me to preach I did magic and puppets inventor leaked wisdom yeah and my Volkswagen was just full left behind my motorhome of magic tricks and puppet stages sheriff you know I went I looked at her and he said he's going to have to travel and God's going to give him stuff and he's going to bless the body and you're gonna have to learn to live long and I'd and I look at this now 45 years later never a complaint from the redhead never a gripe never anything you know just Jeffrey be careful yeah traveling two months take a couple of weeks off then I had those two strokes and you know it was like well and but she's just been a trooper like I just called her and talked on the phone she goes hey babe how'd it go last night said all was fantastic Suze I knew it would be it was good yeah so she's always been in the corner never demanding I need a new dress I need a new car I need this she's always chicky Ken last Monday and that stuff she's the first class lady I have the privilege I just went to Florida meet her myself she came out of an orphanage yeah well we go to church it's funny we'll go to church and she'll have little bags of little dresses yeah shoes and stuff and I said did we have a baby while I was gone what happened here she said are you crazy she said sister such-and-such got that little girl and they're kind of poorly so I went and bought her a few little dresses and some shoes and and little Bobby he doesn't have anything you know Barbara doesn't have a husband and so I went and bought him some toy cars and bought him some stuff in here those little kids come up and they hug me and sister Arnall all the time you know and it's like she's she's out doing her orphanage days Wow which he had no mom no dad and so she's always had this tenderheartedness towards people and it's kind of like she's just been a trooper you know and I pray all the time but God don't let her die because sure she's the best part of my act you know and she just she's not boisterous she doesn't want to be noticed in fact when we were preaching for brother Kraft he took us under his wing and those that he brought grandpa ran 1,200 people man that church is packed into walls yeah and he asked me to take up my own offering and so I didn't know what to say yeah it was awkward so he said well I want to have a sister army come up and say a word sister come on they all started clapping my wife hated our face was red as can be yeah she was a total introvert yeah and she walked up to brother crash platform her face is all red she said a word and she went sad I didn't make too much money that we brother Arnold what how would you define ministry when you hear the word ministry some people think ministry preaching ministry being under the lights ministry being in leadership how do you define ministry service service you know trying to to be kind I you know I've never hope I'm not being rude I I just hate this Pentecostal prima donna crap I just hey you know what a passion yeah it's like like you know your sweat doesn't stink you're a big deal like you got elected you know and I keep them you know I'm the guy to help you get elected I can help you get unelected that's fine I said any no problem but it's kind of like I have a problem with this attitude this this crazy kind of attitude of sure I'm some I'm a gift from God or leaders or sure and I'm saying I don't think I can convene it out and go out of the rain yeah the mercy of God I just don't know what to do you know and I have nobody to pours into me sure nobody and it's just like that's why every once awhile I get on the phone I talked to brother Kraft and he came to my retirement party and it meant a million dollars to me you know and and Pat Williams our superintendent he has always been such a kind guy as Jim wolf who just retired he's always been kind to me you know but it's like I'm just not in the clique in the clouds sure I think sometimes I've made a lot of people mad I didn't mean to I think people resented me angry at me I was crude dude I say slang I'd say things maybe I shouldn't have said I've been trying these last two or three years you know to clean up my act yeah so I'm I'm not sensual or I'm not Street lingo yeah you know as Charlie Mohini came to our church one time to raise money for prison ministry and he was up and you know charlie hallelujah hallelujah praise God hallelujah hallelujah and so he was looking over at me and he goes look at that Arnel a Arne said man I used to drink cat's blood and sleep in coffins and you did that damnable demon-possessed magic junk and he said they damned and condemned me and you and we're both still here and all them suckers are back slid ha ha so we're sitting on the platform you know so he goes look at that guy over there said you know folks he's an icon that man's an icon and pedagogy well the church went crazy they're jumping up and down screaming a clap and I'm sitting there going come on get off that junk just get up preach the Word of God yeah and he says I don't know why you people all excited an icon is just a dumb wooden statue that's hilarious that's hilarious well brother Arnold I want to thank you for just taking the time out sharing with us you are truly a living legend you've taught lives we love you this movement loves you the body of Christ loves you thank you thank you thank you for letting become god bless and congratulations on twenty years that's fantastic wonderful I did that once yes thank you [Music]

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