Not Enough Experience for Tech Job | Consulting Company SCAMS!

hello everyone i'm thiazio from jawbreadyprogrammer.com where we teach thousands of students how to code and get jobs in software development i want to talk about job postings today and we're going to talk about good job postings versus bad job postings sometimes entry level jobs require two years of experience and you might think what is what is that all about i've i've finished my curriculum i've learned software development to some degree i'm an entry level person but where do i get these two years of experience so i'm going to talk about a couple of these things by the way if you like this type of content make sure to click the like button subscribe to the channel click the notification icon to stay up to date so job postings well first let's talk about good job postings versus bad job postings if you go to any job posting website you'll see some job postings that are actually good meaning they have a proper guideline as to what the requirements are what a candidate should know what will the candidate be doing at that given position the list of skills that they need to have to successfully be able to complete that job and then you have bad job postings where it has every single technology that you can think of listed in that job posting and it doesn't tell much about what the role is it might just have a few buzz words about the role but then there's all there's a huge list of all these things that the candidate might need to learn and it's still an entry level position and you might look at that and get intimidated so i want to demystify this particular topic as well as a couple of more things and what your approach should be to apply when you don't have any experience and you want to get your foot in the door so let's talk about how a good job posting makes its way onto a website versus a bad one what happens the background that's important information for you to consider when you're applying to these jobs that perspective is important so i'm going to give you that perspective right now a good job posting is something that's fresh it's been written by a hiring manager that you will be working for and that hiring manager organizes it uh gives as much detail as pos possible about the role and then hands that over to the recruiter and the recruiter puts it onto their career section of their website or a job posting website that's a good job posting a bad one is a you know some hiring manager needs to hire a couple of coders for a given position that they need filled in the company so they uh give a call to the recruiter uh in the hr department and say hey could you uh could you just use that uh i'm a bit busy right now uh i couldn't come up with a job posting right now but you know what the job posting that we posted a couple weeks ago uh you could use that one it has most of the things that we need and so just use that put it up there we have another position open and so what the recruiter does is it he take they take that job posting that they that was for another job and they put it for this one and then when it's on the job posting website the hiring manager later when he has time he confirms with the recruiter and says hey uh by the way did you make sure that it has uh elasticsearch or it has soap web services listed on there because those are really important uh subjects that i want covered and the hiring and the hr person says okay i'll get back to you let me make sure that's there so let's say if it's not they just tag it on there and say must have and they kind of piecemeal these different uh technologies together just to just keep dumping them onto the job posting that's where you come up with this huge list of of things that sometimes are unrelated to the position that you're going to be applying for and then it gets worse because that position that they posted let's say it gets filled later the hiring manager needs another position filled they call the recruiter and says hey you just reuse that one but make these changes in that and just upload it onto the career section and so most of the posting is being done by these recruiters or these hiring man not the hiring managers the hr department the the recruiters and so obviously they don't know much about coding that's not their uh that's not their forte so they're going to be copy pasting and just kind of piece mailing things together to make these postings and that's a bad job posting so what i want you to know is if if you're a let's say an entry level person that has developed you know a couple of applications you learn the basics of software development and you've got a couple texts under your belt go ahead and apply to entry level positions even if it says two years of experience doesn't matter apply even if you don't have that experience uh some are will say zero to two experi two years of experience and it'll still have that huge list of things that you might need to know don't worry about it still apply because that job posting might just not be perfect okay keep that in mind it's and oftentimes it's not perfect now there are two kinds of candidates that may apply to a given job and you want to be one kind that i'm going to explain to you in just a moment but there's that kind of that looks at a job posting and sees oh my god there's all these technologies and it requires two plus years of experience even though it's an entry level job i'm not ready there's no way i'm i can't apply to this right that's that that's one level one kind of candidate and the other kind of candidate is okay this job posting you know there's a lot of things but i know a couple of these and this is an entry level position they'll probably ask me about data structures algorithms they'll talk about databases and i'll i'll try to uh do well on the interview but i'm still going to go ahead and apply and and i may have a portfolio that i've been working on i've built a couple of applications i've got a github profile i've got all this code and experience that i can show for so yeah i'm going to go ahead and apply even though the previous candidate may have you know maybe more knowledgeable about the subject matter but because of their you know shyness or whatever or their fear they might not apply so you want to be the more aggressive candidate the one that's a go-getter and that's what's required the first candidate might think i'm not qualified the second candidate might think how can i hack myself into this position okay i don't have two years of real-world experience but i've got i've built some really cool stuff here and so okay you know what let me just create a a profile on upwork and start getting jobs there and start working on on more things to show for go on a freelance website create a profile there i am a self-employed person you know even though i'm not making any money but hey i'm a developer i code that's what i do all day so yeah i deserve for this business i deserve to apply to this position because let me tell you the tech space there are so many different areas and so much going on in the tech space i'll talk about for example the consulting area within tech there's a lot of scamming that happens in consulting and i don't think i've talked about this before but let me just shed some light so that you can understand that you're not a bad person for applying for a two-year role uh two-year experience uh role even though you have one years of experience for example i've seen consulting companies i've seen clients or you know large camp companies that need a position filled so they hire a consulting company to source the uh candidate for them and that consulting company might not have that resource available readily so what they will do is they'll hire a smaller consulting company and say hey could you find us a candidate that matches this profile and the small company obviously they're aggressive and they're they're going to hack their way into this and like okay let me see uh we don't have a candidate right now but you know what we'll get you that we'll get you that guy in a couple weeks and what they're going to quickly start doing is searching and either within their own team or searching for someone that they can train quickly that looks sharp or sounds sharp and so they're going to start teaching him this and they're going to fire hose him with the knowledge just to pass that interview or at least make it through the first week or so until he kind of figures out what's going on in the company and they they're going to try to place him and that happens a lot i remember a time where i interviewed this candidate over skype and he was in a different state at that time and uh you know i it was i guess my negligence of not noticing that what he was saying that his lips obviously this the video quality wasn't great and i'm sure the consulting company that we hired set it up in such a way but basically we could see his lips moving uh and we can hear him answer the questions correctly the interview questions that i was giving him uh he was answering them correctly but i didn't really notice that his lips were just you know he was just doing whereas somebody else some other guy from the consulting company was actually answering his questions for him that happens in this industry that's crazy but it happens so this guy comes a couple weeks later for the position and it's the same guy sometimes you might not even see the same guy sometimes they the consultant company might just send some other person but anyway that guy appeared and i engaged in a dialogue with him and i started noticing i'm like wait a minute this guy does not sound like the guy that was on that call so somebody was actually speaking on his behalf he was just moving his lips i realized that and i got the guy out of there and i've seen this happen uh even at one of my first early jobs there was this a young girl that the team that the team hired and she absolutely just bombed the first day like she you know she didn't even know how to like almost you know turn on the computer um you know i'm exaggerating here but it was that bad okay so we obviously had to let go but this happens in the tech space so if you're in a position where you've been coding for a cup for a year and you have a portfolio to show for and you're wondering whether you should apply for this two-year position damn right you should apply go ahead and apply be that go-getter you deserve to if you have a portfolio to show for so hopefully this was helpful if you liked what i had to say again make sure to like this video click the like button subscribe to the channel uh and click the notification icon to stay up to date and i'll see you in another another video thanks for watching bye

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Length: 9min 52sec (592 seconds)

Published: Thu Dec 10 2020