No Future for Network Engineers? - CCNA | CCNP

hey what's going on guys welcome back network Chuck can everyone hear me okay am I good let me know we're cooking the stuff below we're alongside can y'all hear me cool all right thank you everyone so I wanted to do a quick livestream on this this is day 9 in the contest I will be giving away before I start any subscription to David bumble calm I'll give you a little more information on that here in a moment but first I wanted to talk about network engineering in general do we have any kind of job security it calmed down Jordan I haven't given me the hashtag just yet Network is not dead now did that hashtag but I'm not using that one nice try though so I get this question so much I think I've answered it like four or five times just in the past week alone but do network engineers have a future because we hear all this automation stuff we hear about all this program and and and pretty much everything we do in networking is changing just a little bit so we're the CLI the command-line interface the main thing you learn when you can get your CCNA is supposedly going away is that actually true I don't know what do you guys think I am when I went to Cisco live this was the big big thing right like everyone was like oh yeah I even have a t-shirt you probably seen my t-shirts the Cisco DNA in the front on the back it says API is the new CLI if you don't know what API is is a programming application programming interface right yeah but however I think it's just a bit a bunch of marketing terms right now I do believe eventually somewhere down the road we will all be programmers it in a sense not like we're not going to be developing software and then and being full comps I kind of guys right we're gonna know scripting we're gonna know Python I think Python will be the main player I mean that that's been the guy that's been popping up mainly for the past I don't know two three years cisco has a lot of support for Python but anyway why do I think that network engineering has a future as of now right now well I guess the big thing I always think about is mighty has always been changing for us right now we're thinking oh and especially people just now getting into network engineering we're thinking oh my gosh everyone's saying that I have to learn programming now but I don't I'm not even learning much programming in my CCNA certification exam so am i studying the wrong stuff hey I t's been changing for a very long time what network engineers do today they did not do it all 20 years ago so it's it's constantly evolving constantly changing you ask anybody who's been an IT for a bit it's it's just something that is a part of the game I don't think the change we're going through right now is any bigger than the changes that happened 10 years ago 20 years ago so I wouldn't freak out too much I'll answer a quick question from JT where do we learn about Python there are so many resources I do have a link on my site in fact let me let me grab it for you real quick I think I'm line already so sit on there pretty up-to-date but yeah there's so many resource to learn Python there's really two ways you can go about it you can go about it as just learning it as a language so learning Python from scratch just as a general use journal purpose language which i think is a great way to do it or you can learn it just for network engineering which David Barnwell has a really great Python for an hour that'll just get your get your feet wet you can get right into the CLI or not CLI right into the programming and start programming parts of the CLI which is pretty cool so let me let me grab that link for you real quick and then I'll also link David bumbles Python course as well I've used that and it's it's amazing how my browser here again so that's a great question from Damir RR I think I said your name right our Python certs coming Francisco I did ask them that that was one big question I had at Cisco live because I'm like okay I want to learn Python but I also love getting certifications are you guys gonna have a certification for me because that's what I really want and I don't think there's gonna be in one anytime soon it's just hard to do pythons a big language and it's hard to certify on things that are you can't really there's not any one task or thing you can learn with this program ability there's so many different things right now so they're all kind of just grasping and trying to figure it out so let me let me grab that Python course link for you real quick but so that was one main point or in the how many point and why I think network engineering is gonna be around for a bit is that I t's always been changed always and anybody who's been at sea for a while knows that won't change on the other part and I wrote a few things down let me see here the other thing and this is what cracks me up so everyone's screaming Automation ever every big Cisco person you know is like okay we're automating we're automated we're learning Python but I visited one of the companies I used to work at last week and they're they're a small to medium-sized business almost in the large size and I said hey are you guys doing any network automation and they're like no we're not in fact they're not really doing much more than what I left them with I which is not a bad thing but I think yeah if you're if you're a large enterprise like if you're cutting-edge I mean if you're just a like Starbucks or if you're Netflix or Google or Facebook you've got a huge incentive to automate your network because it's you're always adding stuff to it you it's so big that it's become a huge administrative burden uh and then so dropping a ton of cash on any kind of network automation tool isn't a big deal for you you get a huge IT budget however when you look at the small to medium or even just a large IT space for those kind of companies they're gonna need us they need network engineers so just just looking at that fact alone you're still gonna encounter a ton of people who need good old routers and switches just like what we learned about in the CCNA so I I'm not worried about that and another reason why I'm not worried about that isn't when I do my research I'm always I always look at job searches you know even though I'm not looking for a job I just like to know what's going on in the market I'll search for it I'll do hat or a CCNA is a tag I'll do network engineering is a tag and I'll just see what's out there and they're still gonna job I get calls probably two or three calls every single day some for network engineering some for Cisco voice it's it's out there and they're looking for people and I think we're gonna be okay for a while now see there's any cool questions here and the just the bottom of the stream here ask a question from Debbie Eric should I take a pay cut to become engineer Network admin to get a foot in the door and he makes good money now it's a great question should you take a pay cut to code to a job that has more opportunity that's a tough one if the pay cut is significant and you've got a family and everything and responsibilities oh I I would say no but if you can stomach the the pay cut I would do it because the opportunity I think is way more valuable than the the small amount of money you can be missing out on for the next I don't know probably six months Oh super chat from screw I don't know how to say that name thank you so much and let me see he says I got a ccmp back in 2016 he said across loads of getting his CCIE or learning Python should I go deeper CCIE first orrery up with t shoot and aim for Python um I guess it depends on where you're at and I know for myself I I can tell you right now with the way I think about it I'm not gonna get my CCIT after I get my ccmp I'm not gonna go for CCI II just I don't see a lot of value in it right now I think it's in such a prestigious shirt and if you get it you it really proves that you know something and you'll be valuable that any company you go to and you'll make a ton of money however I think you can do the same thing with a CCMP and some experience or ccmp and learning some Python so should you go for your CCIE or should you get Python I say go Python so you learned some networking I say maybe diversify your skill set of it look at some cloud technologies look at AWS maybe go to another track yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't even say go t shoot again I would say maybe you look at CCP security just diversify a bit and that way it'll recertify you so yeah I'm always against recertifying you're renewing your shirt with the same search not let's broaden out that notch unless you're really rusty on stuff and yeah obviously you'll be relearning things but I always want something new but yeah right now if you're if you're gonna be working for like a VAR value had a reseller that you know is constantly reaching out to customers and and they they they pretty much pay you to have a CCIE so they can maintain their Cisco gold partnership if you want to work for someone like that yeah yeah I think it would be extremely valuable but if you just want to be dynamic and useful in the marketplace and you want to get from those cool new roles that are actually using network programmability and automation yeah yeah I'd say learn Python instead of CCI you cuz CJ he's a huge it's a it's a huge endeavor it's it's so different from CCP so much more in-depth and it takes a large chunk of your life so that's my advice I you you go either or you're not gonna go wrong trust me you'll be fine but I think right now the skillset that's gonna be more valuable will be learning Python or cloud technologies so anyways I was I was kind of on a tangent cuz that was distracting but I love answering that question so the other thing with network engineering is it going away I I don't think it'll ever go away I think you will for sure change it's always going to change and some of the roles are going to start being more combined like maybe maybe you won't be called a network engineer anymore I I think that might happen I think you might be a DevOps engineer or some new futuristic term but I was reading an article today and they they kind of gave this comparison like like right now used to have a person on the company that would do SEO we have search engine optimization and then you'd have a person that would build websites do you have a person that would do social media but now that's all one person because all those technologies everything you had to know and be able to do all of that has become easier with better you eyes and it's more automatic so you might have one marketing person who's not very technical I can handle all of that like for myself I mean I handle my own website and stuff and I hate them all on social media and I don't know anything any web programming and a little bit but not enough to do anything so it's kind of like that like network engineering you you're still gonna know need to know the foundational topics you're still gonna need to know the how networks work but you might absorb different roles you might have to know a bit more about cloud technologies might have to know some scripting some Python doesn't mean you're gonna be a full-fledged developer it doesn't mean what you fundamentally do is gonna change drastically it just means you're gonna have to think up some new skills which if you're an IT that's what you should be used to already and if you're not ninety yet that's what should actually inspire you to want to get into IT it's always changing so you'll never get bored you'll never get stagnant I only see and I I was thinking about this today this question comes right after people ask is it still worth it to be a network engineer is it still worth it to get my CCNA and it's the same I answered this question one of my videos when I talked with Hank Preston over at Cisco Hank Reston is the network programmability guy over at Cisco he leads all the teachings on that he actually did a course on Cisco dev net how to get to network programmability and I go through every once in a while just to refresh my own knowledge but I asked him that is if no no you you need those foundation topics you need to know the CCNA because even though some of those things are being automated you need to know how it's working under the hood as they always say it was just give this analogy like before we had the ability to like quickly diagnose cars with those uh one of those things called bring just quickly plug it into the car you get like the codes of what's going on before you can do you had to have a mechanic worked on the car for hours and hours and hours to troubleshoot what was going on with it was going wrong now just plug in something it'll automatically tell us what's going on well that's kind of what we're doing that work automation we can quickly plug in something and look through all the data parse through all the data and tell us in layman's terms really easily for even like a level one tech what's going on with your network but you still need those guys who understand how it works at the lower level because it's not perfect and something might go wrong or it might be a high level issue that you have to solve so anyways I can't one-hand it there but so this question comes up is the CCNA still worth it and I go with this when you're going for certifications that are current so the CCNA whatever versions current right now if you go for that I think you're fine I think if you just go for the latest and greatest certifications you're going to be okay Cisco I believe and they had a huge incentive to do so when the market changes when network engineers need to adapt they are going to adapt their certifications to match what the market needs so I I feel safe I feel okay with the fact that what whatever CCNA versions out there I think they're gonna I think they're gonna read it this year too who knows what they're gonna happen and they keep removing the old technologies we don't use anymore that makes sense and they're adding in new ones they're slowly starting to add in their work program ability so I think if you just stick with what the markets doing right now if you pay attention you're gonna be fine just don't be stagnant so yeah get your CCNA get your ccmp and keep your head up keep looking around I did have another point I think when you see okay there's my other point and this is what a lot of people don't get when they're first studying for their CCNA or ccmp and they don't have that IT admin role is that when you get into a role I most the time you're not going to be doing just what you learned to the CCNA I mean when I when I had my CCNA how was the network admin I wasn't doing just networking I I was doing a ton of different stuff I was managing Windows servers and learning about Terminal Services and then I was learning about Microsoft Exchange I mean it just you might be in a role where you have to do a lot of things and I think especially now when you might get your first roles than ever engineer or you're thinking about the role of a network engineer and where you're gonna be in the future when you get in that role it's gonna be different from your CCNA it just will be and you're gonna learn new things and you're gonna you're gonna get into the job and do things that you don't currently already know how to do and that's fine as long as you just learn to adapt so I think if you just keep your head up and whatever role you get whatever job you get uh if network programmability starts to become a thing most the time your job wants to keep you on and they want to teach you or if you notice that your company is looking at Network automation will then start learning network automation it means it's you just need to be able to keep your head up and learn and adapt I think I saw a phrase today I wrote it down just embrace and learn don't be afraid be that guy who is willing to take that take on that new project with that new technology and you'll be fine embrace what's new and learn everything you can so I I mean I always tell you never stop at any one certification never stop in the CCNA don't stop at CCP you don't you don't have to go to CCIE just keep learning different things go to different CC and P tracks what is different CCNA tracks go to AWS and that's the other big thing too is um now we're continuing that the big thing that's changing is that there's more infrastructure going to the cloud a lot of the old companies they used to work for they're putting more stuff into AWS what does that mean for us so it means some of the routing and switching that we know and love some of our hardware devices aren't gonna be needed anymore it's gonna be up in the cloud we just have to learn some some AWS that's all it is we love technology we love routing and switching and really when you think about all these new technologies especially like a lame programming and scripting and Python it's it's really not different from programming in the CLI writing CLI commands yeah it's it's not you know you're not a software engineer but when you're writing the CLI you're you're programming a router you're programming a switch so I I don't think she'd be afraid of it it's not a big deal but anyways that was my two cents on the future of network engineers yes there is a future no worries and the role will change it definitely will just like it always has so don't freak out don't be scared if you're going through your CCNA keep going and you know what if the industry changes the CCNA will - don't worry about it so before I look at any of these comments and answer a few questions we do have a contest going on so first I want to do the drop of bombil contest today we are giving away what did I write down we are giving away Oh CCNA packet tracer labs speaking of CCNA so if you don't know David bumble he's an amazing guy he's been doing cisco forever and he's been 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don't have any any any admins or any moderators helping me just yet so if you have a good question or just want to answer I want me to answer any question type it up again so I can see it but let me see so Adrian Castaneda said I was offered a job in Cisco Systems and there knock entry level but it's one day for my hometown like I said one day travel since this coat since it is Cisco would you recommend moving I have no experience in IT only CCNA my parents don't agree that's a tough one I mean because you hate to live away but I would say if there's not much opportunity where you are in your hometown I think you might have to move and if it's Cisco I mean I I have never worked for Cisco I've always wanted to and I have had the opportunity to work for Cisco I've interviewed a few times i I think what's you get a job at Cisco you're pretty much set you can go anywhere after that so man that opportunity plus just access to Cisco and being around Cisco and you'll learn really quick at the NOC so and that without knowing any more about you just from my perspective I would say go for it because I know the opportunity is real it's amazing but hey your parents know me know you better than I do but just from pure like ambition standpoint go for it is that that's pretty cool if I could have gotten a job on a knock at Cisco early on in my career I would have done it I want to jump down they jumped us the bottom here Geo said he's going for a CC sense on January 3rd any quick advice on the final crammed honestly Geo I haven't taken a seasoned and when I get certified oh I haven't taken it in like six years that's I guess my last advice a refresh me is subnetting pretty heavy in the C sense I think it is right so I would practice yourself in it if you're not already like a boss at it get on something and practice design networks yourself just really really get a good handle so you can do it with your eyes closed because they do give you a whiteboard to write it out but you don't have to do that you won't be able to do it in your head so quickly and and whatever technologies there are in the sea scent flap it up as best you can labbing reinforces those concepts so tightly in your brain you want if you want to be a part of your brain that's pretty much all I can offer you there so Krynn KO TT vir I think I put too your name see fell to see sensei years ago haven't been back to the sense but he's already been in our cabinet for eight years though that's that's the thing about certifications do I mean they're they will get you in the door they're fantastic but you don't always need them either I'm a big fan but hey he's been doing network engineering for eight years well Power Team so Simon Lee is asking about CompTIA in which cert would you recommend going with the CCNA um says a tough one so I just made a video about CompTIA Network+ for the c s-- evening only do you any good because CCNA assumes you know everything about never plus security plus is always a good one comp to you security plus mainly because it's a great intro to security really great gets a good brief overview of a bunch of things and also it's a requirement for a lot of government jobs a lot of job jobs in the DoD Department offense and it's it's a standard for a lot of companies so that one when I would recommend the A+ they're refreshing the A+ next year I think in January and I've been talking to come to you about it I think it's gonna be pretty cool so if you love hardware like pcs and building stuff and you do want to if you do any of that in your job or you want to the A+ is a good one but if you have your CCNA you're wanting to become in network engineer you don't want to be on the best desktop support team security plus is only one I would really really look at and maybe maybe the Linux plus not because it's valuable by itself but because when you get the Linux plus I think you give the L pick one big ten which is another vendor-neutral Linux certification so what you if you get one or the other you get both so that's that's killer and Linux is awesome I've been contemplating getting my Linux plus and the l poq all right so looking through a few comments here Christian Shan asked AWS can you work remotely I would love to stay in my country and still do networking well really okay I think the way it is now you can do any job remotely it just depends on the culture of the company that's all it is I mean AWS by design is a remote kind of situation because you're putting your stuff in the cloud so all the work you'll be doing as a AWS engineer and network engineer with AWS will be kind of remote so it's just gonna depend Allah company when I was looking for a remote job and I was trying to be an engineer remote I just I had in my resume cuz I was happy where I was that honestly I loved my current job and I had in my resume I'm only going to look for a new job if it's fully remote and I would get job offers like that or not offers but interview requests saying hey this is a full remote job so there isn't any one particular IT skill or path that I think will help you be remote it's gonna be completely about the company and their their philosophy on working remote that's all it is let's see so I just saw come about Microsoft certs but it just escapes me so uh Chris and Vilas eight says do I need Microsoft service or Active Directory to becoming network engineer um it depends honestly it does and and this is the other advice I would give anybody who is curious about network engineering and is worried about how it's changing is it if you look at a lot of never continue your job descriptions and if you look on indeed or LinkedIn and you look for all the all the job placement stuff you'll see on there that they don't just list CCNA anymore like it used to be that you could just need that repeating here just know routing the switching and that was your job it's it's been changing a lot then when you don't know DevOps sometimes larger companies smaller companies want you to know a bunch of stuff they want you to know Microsoft they want you to know maybe some Linux depending on what they have so I think it depends on what kind of engineer you want to be if you want to be an engineer who only works on maybe one area of Technology so maybe routing and switching in Cisco and then the other vendors know it's not required to know Microsoft but if you want to work for a company small to mid-size which they're so fun to work with they really are I love work for this kind of companies if you work for those type of companies you might have to be a jack of all trades where you'll be a backup to the system systems advents you'll know a bit of Microsoft and I think of Microsoft sir would really help you I think having an MCSA with the CCNA makes you a powerhouse I think it really will help you out I mean I've I'm actually eyeing some Microsoft search right now I love Microsoft I love the server stuff I've got a couple uh twenty twelve servers in my environment I love it and I love what they're doing I love that they just came out their own Linux OS and it's it's heavy and as your the cloud platform so I think it's only gonna help you to get Microsoft certs there right up there alright so this is a good question from the DKNY tea said would you agree that who you know is more important than what you know people need to also put effort into people networking ie LinkedIn yeah I think so because you can be the smartest guy in the world but if if you ask some dummy over here that knows the the manager at the company you're trying to get a job at that dummy's gonna get the job before you sometimes not all the time but yeah it's it really comes down to who you know a lot of the time I know if you're in the IT industry for any amount of time you're gonna get contacts and most IT guys when they make a role change or they jump to a different company it's because they know someone that's really all it is I can't tell you how many times people will just I get my last company or a company before that actually know my last company well that's company one guy went to another company and before I know it three guys follow them it's just it's all about connections so yes it's kind of funny networking it really is about networking it's that's that's huge so that's why it's great to go to as many networking groups as you can so Cisco live is great cuz Cisco live you never know who you're gonna meet here you're gonna be sitting next to on the bus I mean when I was at Cisco life I always sent there by Cisco to learn about DNA Center and to make videos about that I on the way to the convention center one day I was on the bus and just a bunch of geeky network engineers like myself and I the guys that next to me work on chatting and he's on the DNA team at Cisco and we're just talking away and that's a contact for me so yeah you never know who you're gonna be when you go to these events another one like I always talk about is in DFW Cisco users group they have Cisco users groups in different areas across the country I believe so hit those up if you can there isn't one start one seriously that would be cool too yeah love your comment dude that yeah networking people very important all right let's see there used on networking yeah hey I like that but bass recording me let's see yeah Brian concurred what I said sixteen years an IT and I will say my connections are my most important asset it's kind of funny you'll notice that and it's actually it's pretty scary to you like if you ever get a new IT manager or a new CIO or something I always get nervous if I'm if I'm like I was there before because normally they come in and they clean house they bring in their own people so yeah wherever you are right now if you're at a job get to know your people you're working with build relationships go to happy hours because oh my gosh what what IT guys really missed sometimes and this is why I if you guys saw David bumbles video today you kind of RIA refuted the number one skill I said you need an IT he said the number one skill you need is learning the ability to learn and to love learning and picking up new things I I think that's the number two skill I think it is what the number one skill I think is and I call it customer service but really I just labeled that because I was trying to talk to people who are working for Starbucks and stuff but it's really just the skill of learning how to deal with people don't how to talk with people that skill will change your career really you could be the greatest network architect in the world but if you don't know how to socialize with your co-workers if you don't know how to talk to your boss you're gonna be in trouble because this is how the world works guys if someone likes you they're gonna give you stuff they're going to help you out if someone doesn't like you it doesn't matter how smart you are I'm sorry so learning how to be light learning how to talk to people that's an extremely valuable skill all right we get a super chat from Jeffrey Scheffel thank you for the super chat Jeffrey I said Chuck after getting my CCNA should I get another CCNA AWS BCP or study Python that my cancer is a loaded question because uh man it really furred for you it depends on what type of job you want to get um I think you can't go wrong with getting AWS AWS would be such an valuable assets your CCNA especially if you want to work for Amazon or if you work for the cutting edge companies who are putting their stuff in AWS DCP that would be great one as well BCP is I'll actually be talking about that tomorrow and my video tomorrow I'm interviewing or I already have it set up my dad because he has a DCP he's a vmware engineer and we kind of talked through that so catch that video tomorrow i'm BCP thinking tasting a $5,000 class to actually get your vc p and then you asked about Python I think you should study Python whenever you get a chance so if you just got your C after you get your CCNA this is what Hank Preston recommends Francisco take a break learn the basics of Python not enough to be like a boss but just learn the basics and have to be feel comfortable with it not be scared when you see a little bit of Python scripts just become a little bit familiar with that maybe automate what you did in CCNA maybe create a little sister CCNA automation lab and then a double us because he Python can be used in hey them you months and BCP men VMware is doing some killer things uh VMware and I might talk about this a little bit tomorrow but VMware they have what's called a VX LAN or not the explain what is it called nsx nsx which is like the cisco ACI competitor is basically all virtualized routing and switching in the data center and they remove any need for any other vendor it's just all VMware and you can get a specialized search and just networking from VMware it's pretty killer so to answer your question um I'm I'm really curious about AWS I think eight of us would be really really cool to get I know my brother who just got a CCNA is organized AWS certified cloud practitioner and then jumping into the cloud solutions architect associate so yeah I recommend AWS but before you do that before you jump into any one of those do a quick survey of the jobs available where you are because it's not going to be valuable to you if no one around you to hire afraid of us but it will be valuable of someone's hiring vcp in your area all right so just do a quick survey of that see what's going on in your market maybe call the recruiter and say hey recruiter what do you guys need what are you looking for I would go with that all right so my wife is telling me that my dinner's ready so I'm going to answer two more questions and then I'm out so I'm going to look through and try to pick some questions here so I'll try to go live more often so if you have more questions I will answer them in the next live video let's see I'm trying to pick some good ones here not that there's any bad questions but I want to pick a question that will apply to a lot of people okay so Carlos Rivera says he's he's going for his TC or he just kind of see Cena routing switching he's trying to find uh trying to get into CCNA security I you can't find a good book well I always go with the Cisco official certification guide we're for any any of the tracks some are really great some are kind of crappy but you if you need a good book go with the official certification guide I always recommend for whatever certification you're going for get a good video series a good book good labs and then even if you want you know for bonus points get the good practice exam yeah get the ocg the official certification guide put out by Cisco press that's usually the best option let's see Oh superjet so I guess this will be my last question dinner said I don't take you for the super chat how would you go about obtaining a mentor I work in a technical operations department at Comcast but I want to eventually maneuver myself up and the engineering department so I did this for myself if it keeps you don't know that about me when I was trying to work my way up in the company I never did you name I said hey I want to I want to be you so can i shadow you can I help you out anyway so I think it starts out with figure out a way of how you can provide value to that engineer I told my until the same thing to my brother he was working for a very large financial company on their help desk I was his first like real real corporate IT job and I told him hey and this was a big company so the networking team was very siloed like they they never saw them the help desk so I said hey when you get a chance find the network engineer and hound them say hey can I help you in any way I want to learn what you're doing if he any help at any projects if you want me to do the grunt work that you hate if you want me to hold a router up so you can rack it let me know and it worked out for him actually so they started taking him to the data center and he would and this is what was really cool for him is that he would go Dishman with them he was shadow them gonna be there you know when something would go wrong as it often does and they would get Cisco TAC on the phone and be hours and hours he would get credit for being there not that he got paid extra because that that wasn't part of it but he just he got the the the good deed credit she hired all the higher-ups so when they had like a team meeting he told me they would say oh and thanks to Cameron for showing the initiative and going and helping out the network engineer so and so it makes you look really good so in finding a mentor I would start out with figure out a way to offer them value because obviously you're gonna get something out of the relationship you are gonna get something out of it you need to show them how it'll be viable for them to so that's what I would do and maybe if that doesn't work out for you maybe approach your boss your IT manager or even go higher and say hey I'm really interested in moving up a company can i mentor anybody the last company I worked for just before I left we started a mentorship program to where everybody in engineering team if if anybody on the helpdesk wanted to learn about network engineering or system ministration or programming that we could be assigned then then they we would be their mentor so I actually did that for somebody else and it was really cool and essentially we were looking for somebody to move up because a lot of IT companies or a lot of IT departments oh you don't want to hire a firm the outside you do when you have to but really we want to find talent on the helpdesk on the on the bottom level because we can see how you work so we where we can already see if you have the social skills and you have the temperament set not freak out and lose your mind if something goes down and we can we can build you up and teach you from the ground up so that's really what people look for so yeah that's that would be what I would do provide value and if you don't have access any of the networking team talk to your manager see if he'll set up a mentorship program because hey companies they love to promote from within they love providing the type of value so that would be my advice and on that I think that's all I pretty much have for today guys thank you so much for joining me for the David bumble contest we're looking for her to add this to win you must be a subscriber of David bumble on YouTube so I'll have that my description on the on the video and everything so don't forget into that contest five entry or five people will win a subscription to David bumble comm which is a pretty killer thing and those live labs things I just sounds so stinking cool and that's about it thank you everyone who offered the super chat and I will see you guys tomorrow it's big in a mentorship I want to have this one thing I wanna call it officially I'm gonna call it officially I mentorship but with the CBT like a subscription the person who wins that tomorrow I will be checking in with you to see how you're doing and kind of provide Friday maybe not I guess I guess a mentorship and also offering that that motivation and kind of keeping you accountable so I so I can be like rat hounds you but I do want to know how you're doing so whoever ones that that'll be fun so be prepared for the that well guys that's about it any more questions let me know about down below afterwards I'll see if I can answer them if not catch me in the next livestream I'll try to do more of these because they're pretty fun how about having fun well see how tomorrow

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Length: 44min 31sec (2671 seconds)

Published: Thu Dec 20 2018