New AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 5800X3D & More

[Music] the year is 2024 and we're reviewing a new am4 CPU we thought they were done with the 5600 x2d last year but they're not so there's a 5700 x3d we're looking at today this is like a slower 5800 x3d basically easiest way to think about it it's a $250 part the 58x 3D is a little more expensive it has to be 300 315 or so so it's just a cheaper lower frequency 5800 X 3D uh and this is alongside a couple am4 parts that AMD is making for 2024 probably this is the actual last time they're launching any we thought that last time too we were proven to be wrong okay so the current CPU pricing landscape looks like this the r 75700 x2d is again 250 bucks or so on new EG the 5800 x2d is 308 to 3155 depending on if you're looking at new EG or Amazon new EG notes quote free ddr4 uh we're not really counting that today as as value because we're not sure how long it'll last and it's not available everywhere the 14600 K is about $300 these days as well the KF is around 290 and a new am5 platform of course would cost more but the 7800 x3d alone would run you about 390 bucks or so so that's the setup for the testing today let's get into a a simple and straightforward review before that this video is brought to you by Squarespace and visiting squarespace.com Gamers Nexus will give you 10% off your first purchase with them we've built a number of our own websites of Squarespace where we list catastrophic PC Hardware failures to inform subscribers of those failures we also built our store website with Squarespace using its built-in e-commerce tools and of course we built a website for our CEO snowflake because she demanded our audience know who really runs the show get to the core of your idea and spend less time on web design by signing up at squarespace.com Gamers access or click the link below the objectives of our review today are mostly focused on comparing it against the 5800 x3d uh that's because we figure most people who are considering a 57 it's probably between the 57 and 58 for you that's our primary subject that we're going to be looking at and then you all know we've been good with recommending the 5800 x3d basically since it launched at this point it's been one of the most Competitive Gaming chips of course it faces competition from brand new builds though and for brand new builds it has lost some viability to new platforms the main reason for that is simply because for people who don't already own an am4 motherboard and if you want new like you're not going to try and get something cheap from Facebook Marketplace or something then am5 gives you the same forward looking upgradeability that existing am4 owners are benefiting from today with this launch so for brand new builds a little bit of a different story where it really is worth some extremely careful consideration uh of building on new platforms because you will get marooned on am4 if you buy into it there's still reasons to do to to buy into it we'll talk about that later but this is particularly interesting for existing am4 owners for that reason a lot of these charts have things like 2600 2700x 3600 I think the 5600x make some appearances so there's a lot of older Parts um not every chart contains the same CPUs so you skim through them and see if the one you're on uh is there and then you can start figuring out how much better 57 or 58 would be for you in the x3d class okay the specs will help us understand where to look for performance differences they are both 8 core 16 thread Parts they both have 96 megab of L3 cache TDP is 105 Watts on both so they're mostly the same here the clock is where it's different the 5700 x2d has a maximum 4.1 GHz advertised boost Glock and 3.0 for base the 5800 xpd is at 4.5 and 3.4 for base this is a huge Sway and frequency and it's where most of the differences will manifest however it's possible the equalized and high cach will still give the 5700 x3d an advantage in some gaming scenarios over otherwise would be direct price competitors to it not over the 5800 XP that's always going to be better but that's just because the cash can help make up for things uh in some applications depends on what you're looking at we've seen games where it's significantly more useful than in uh certain applications like production workloads so production testing today will be extremely short we have blender uh code compile and compression and decompression for file workloads however the focus is really not there it's going to be on gaming that's because x3d CPUs generally speaking for the production test that we run at least they don't tend to show a particularly strong benefit from that additional cash there are workloads where probably would show up that are non-gaming uh but they're not in any of our current test Suite so what that means is a 5700 x3d is going to be worse than a 5800 X non-3d just like the 5800 X 3D is normally worse than the non-3d or very close to it so it's very rare that uh in our production testing the extra cash actually matters and so that's where we're going to focus on the gaming perspective today all right as for why these exist just if you're curious uh we think it's related to the same answer as the 56 00 x2d which was a micer exclusive launch so it is likely that since the 5800 x2d has remained a successful seller it's still in the market people are still buying it uh it's likely that the only reason you would make a cheaper version of that as AMD at this point in am for's life cycle is if you're still sitting on a bunch of silicon that doesn't quite clear the specification requirements to hit that say 4 point what or five GHz advertised boost clock and the higher base clock and so one option would be to basically do a down bin a lower spec where you get most of the way there uh still has the extra cash on it and that's how a 5700 x3d might be born it's also possible that they're just from a marketing perspective trying to breathe some additional life into one last push to try and Purge the market of all of these am4 chips that are still out there including the 5800 XD so now they get another kind of marketing round behind it so either one but uh we think it's likely that there is a uh some amount of Supply that just couldn't hit the original spec for the 58 x3d and hence we have the 57 and regardless it exists doesn't really matter why we're testing it we're going to tell you if it's worth it or not so we'll start with the summary charts to get you a rapid recap of all of the data as quickly as possible and this is going to primarily focus on the 57 vers 58 x3d just to establish the Baseline since probably a lot of you are familiar with the 5800 x3ds performance in general so we're just going to give you the quick percent differences and new buyers likely will be choosing between these two as well uh especially people who are still on am4 all right let's look at some charts here's a simplified summary chart of the 5700 x2d versus the 5800 x2d this chart shows percent change in the direction of improvement for time-based benchmarks we're showing the time reduction as a percent Improvement here that's because less time is better here it's Improvement overall in gaming especially the change generally hovers around the 6 to 10% range call it about 6 to 8% on average some of the lower figures like F1 at 1440p are capped by other components star field remains CPU bound though it just shows less scaling than other titles between these two likely due to less Reliance on pure frequency larger gains appear in games where the frequency is more relevant with Final Fantasy being a great example of that this chart is the relative value comparison our recent 480 super review goes into some of the thought process and methodology Behind These it contained a huge discussion of this style of chart the short version is that we have a lot of reservations about these there are limitations to their usefulness plus they abstract away from the Nuance but for a head-to-head they start to make sense and the audience has really shown that you all want them a number towards the left is indicating a reduction in the amount of money you're spending for the FPS you're getting with the 5700 x3d as compared to the 5800 x3d larger reductions are better for Value boiling it all down the relative huge cost reduction of the 57 x3d despite slightly lower performance allows for a significant benefit in value we're seeing a range of 10 to 17% reduction in USD per FPS against the 58 x3d we're still experimenting with these charts we'll be changing the style constantly as we seek discovery of something that we feel represents the whole picture and we make no claims as to it being perfect and in fact we don't think it is but it gives you a pretty good quick snapshot our full performance charts give the Fuller picture so let's get into some of those we'll quickly look at frequency validation of the two parts our recent 8,000 series AP reviews proved exactly why these are necessary as part of the reviews process to ensure company's components are running properly here's an all core frequency chart of the 5700 x3d and 5800 x3d using blender on all threads the 57 x3d boosts to 4 GHz and Hold Steady for the duration of the test it's expected behavior that these CPUs won't hit Peak boost clocks and all core workloads the 5800 x2d ran 300 MHz faster here at 4,300 for the test duration that'll be the main reason for performance differences between them in single-threaded workloads the maximum frequency we measured here of Any Given core for the 5700 x2d was commonly 4150 MHz that that's about 50 MHz over advertised that's great to see the 5800 x2d was about 4450 MHz Stellaris is up now this test looks at simulation time rather than frame rate so the differen is in real world time and definitely feels noticeable when waiting for longer simulation processing this is one of the tests that you might notice more than frame rate in a lot of situations the R7 5700 x3d completed simulation in 36.4 seconds on average and that's against the 58 x3ds 33 1/2 seconds the result is an 8% time reduction favor in the 5800 x3d here which aligns with the frequency Advantage this game tends to favor higher frequencies more than some other games and we're seeing that here considering the 20 to 21% price reduction against the new EG's current $315 pricing and ignoring the free ddr4 promo for the 58 x2d since we doubt that'll last that's not a bad tradeoff this is actually good value in relation to the 5800 x2d which itself has historically been good value if you went am5 instead the 7800 x2d gives some perspective on the potential ceiling at 29 seconds its time reduction against the 5800 x3d is 133% in this test and 20% against the 5700 x3d the 14600 K completes the simulation in 16% less time than the 5700 x3d so untils 14600 K can definitely compete in some of these titles but the pricing is different we also have some older Parts present you can pause here if you'd like to look at them longer the 2600 the 2700 the 3600 and the 3700x all make appearances so that may be useful if you want to do an in socket upgrade our Starfield results are pretty Barren because the game just got a massive update generally speaking we don't have a chart for this but we did plot it and we saw about a 30% change in performance between the prior game versions We were testing and the brand new game version that just came out so we've wiped the data and all the data on the upcoming chart is brand new as a result and the results are spars but still useful the 5800 x3d roughly equated the 5700 x3d here as evident as well well from the 14900 K and the 7800 x3d there's definitely CPU scaling Headroom so we're not limited on the prior generation x3d CPUs by other components it's it's the CPUs specifically that are limiting us the similarity and performance relates back to a reduction in frequency dependency in this game at least with these updates and given the equivalence of cor specs for the CPUs the difference is only a 3% lead for the 5800 x3d as for the 14600 K that leads the 5700 x3d by about 14% or 11% over the 800 x3d at 1080p High the 4900 K and 7800 x3d become constrained by GP requirements despite the 490 the 5800 xud is about a 3% better performance than the 5700 X and neither of them hits the GPU ceiling the 14600 K maintains its 133% lead over the new R7 5700 x3d CPU Final Fantasy 14's up now in Final Fantasy at 1080p the 5800 x3d ran at 218 FPS average leading the 5700 x2d by 11% the 7800 x2d gets bound up and this is due to something we've discussed in the past with this specific benchmark and approach which is that there's a GPU driver overhead limitation this particular game where there are differences that emerge between Intel and AMD when handling Nvidia GPU specifically in F1 2023 at 1080p we don't have that problem the r 75700 x2d ran at 410 FPS average establishing about a 40 FPS gap between it and the r 75800 x2d however that 40 FPS Gap amounts to about 10% Advantage for the 5800 xvd here the 7800 xvd on am5 leads by 24% and the 5700 x2d ends up surrounded by some of Intel's newer Parts with the 14900 K and the 14700 K flanking it outperforms the 14600 K meaningfully while being cheaper at the time of writing again at $250 to $300 between the two at 144p the top results get truncated due to the resolution increase this is expected Behavior the 5800 x2d now ties with the 7800 x2d with both being limited by other elements of the platform and by the increase in GP workload the 5700 x3d doesn't reach the same Heights but closes the Gap 3% as a result of external limitations this is a good reminder that scenarios not exclusively bound on the CPU will show limited scaling between the high-end CPUs shadow of the Tomb Raider at 1080p the 5700 x2d landed at 301 FPS average allowing the 5800 x2d about a 9% lead that's in line with some of the prior results the 7800 x2d leads at 350 FPS average with the 14900 K trailing the 5700 x3d and the 5800 x3d CPUs here their cash is benefiting them in this game balers Gate 3 has also received multiple massive patches since our October data set and we're really happy with what the team at Lan's doing for this because the patches are improving not just the game but the performance we found that the CPU performance was typically around 5% different from previously at the upper bound of the range or it was 1 to 3% of and 2% at the lower it just depended on which CPU it was because of the 5% swing and some relevant scenarios for this test this chart contains only only directly comparable data that has been run on the newest game version and so the data set is very limited as it was only collected this week but it contains the most interesting comparison the 5700 x3d is 105 FPS average yields to the 5800 x3d which itself is at 115 FPS that's about a 9% lead over the new r s that has the 5700 x3d ahead of the 7600 X for performance and about tied with the 14600 K 7800 x3d leads the 5700 x3d by 23% of this test with the 14900 K 11% ahead at 40p in medium settings we remain Bound by components other than the GPU this is good news for CPU scaling and means that you'd still see benefit even in this particular workload keep in mind that our balers Gate 3 testing is an act3 and it's in a densely populated market area of the city which increases simulation load on the CPU the 7800 x3d is at 130 FPS leads this chart with the 5800 x3d at 111 this leads the 5700 x2d by about 11% and the hierarchy Remains the Same as before Rainbow Six Siege validated as similar on on our AMD rise and passes for the most part but had changed outside of our acceptable tolerances for some Intel CPUs following recent patches and updates since October we're removing the old Intel data as a result of this so Intel is in limited Supply on this particular chart in Rainbow Six Siege at 1080p the 5700 x2d held at 66 FPS average with a 58 x3d 7% ahead at 649 the 5700 x3d ends up below the 7600 X and this one and just behind the freshly retested 14600 K but not noticeably for any human we'll quickly look at a few production benchmarks this section will be kept short since it doesn't change as much in blender the 57 x3d completed our frame render 19 minutes meaning that the 5800 X reduces the time to render by 4% X CPUs in general don't provide additional value in this test and in fact they typically perform slightly worse than the non x3d counterparts as the frequency is more useful in this test after the core count and the thread count you can see that in the 5800 X result versus the 58x 3D and in the 7700x versus the 7800 x3d 7zip file compression is measured in millions of instructions per second the 5700 x3d completed 90k mips with the 58 x3d about 5% ahead of this result the Gap here is smaller than what we saw in most the gaming tests earlier and is within a range where functionally speaking you can think of the 5800 x2d and 5700 x2d as the same performance and file compression work file decompression benchmarking the 5700 x2d completed 109,000 mips giving the 58 x3d a lead of 5.7% the 7800 x3d pulls 20% ahead here here with the 7700x further still and benefited from the frequency change the 5800 X non-3d leads its x3d counterpart as well finally in chromium code compile the 5700 x3d required 181 minutes to complete the compile the 58 x3d used about 5% less time at 172 minutes and the 14600 K it leads both of these massively with a 106 minute result and 41% time reduction from the 5700 x3ds result predictably the conclusion is that it's a 5800 x3d but a little bit slower almost like the spec sheeet tells us that the way the difference manifests itself tends to be to the tune of about a six to 10% swing between them uh and the price difference is much larger it's uh choose your choose your retailer but at the sort of low end of the price wi it's 20% increase to go from a 5700 x3d at 250 bucks to say about a $300 so 5800 x3d if you're looking at higher price stuff like 315 then obviously the Gap is adjusted for that it's not bad for value for the 5700 x2d now that said if this is truly going to be a last harah for am4 then and if you want to stretch it as lawn as CPU possible even though the 5800 x2d is sort of disproportionately expensive I guess kind of lightly used there but compared to the 57 it's still worth considering it if you have an am4 build say you have 2600 3600 you're trying to get one last push out of it you know if your options are going to be limited to the 5,000 series which they will be almost certainly pretty confident in that uh and it's basically going to be 58 57 for your best choices the 58 might be still worth some consideration unless you are uh more budget constrained in which case that's kind of why this is just a some behind the scenes for you this isn't actually the box with that CPU but we're pretending it is because that we didn't get a box with it but that's where something like this comes in with a 5700 x3d for the budget constrainted user what's less clear to us is whether it' make any sense to build a brand new am4 machine with all new parts uh we would lean against it generally speaking and the reasoning is just that if you want all new you're not willing to buy a used motherboard for example you're going to pay all new prices and the price is going to put you under still an am5 platform because am5 plus ddr5 it's an expensive combination but you will get stuck on am4 and remember number two that all the people watching this video who are on am4 and who are considering buying one of these for their last upgrade you're you're going to be the one stuck on it as opposed to the one making the same decision as they're making except on am5 in a couple years hopefully if am5 works out the way I'm for it Additionally the 7800 X the 14600 K CPUs like this uh they are strong strong performers and they're competitive with these x3d CPUs especially depending on which application you're looking at and so while we wouldn't NE necessarily recommend someone with an am4 machine that's good go out and buy a all brand new system we would strongly recommend that for those of you who don't have a machine right now so that's kind of where we see it and the 14600 K uh although it's a price sort of alternative to the 57 5800 x3d we're not considering it too much in this head-to-head comparison of the two just CU you can't sock at a 146 and an am4 board so we're a different discussion at that point where uh an upgrade we're just talking the cost of the CPU and that's it you know versus a new buildup obviously it's everything or most of everything at least on the platform side so uh as for the 5700 X3 it's really pretty straightforward we are ultimately happy with the fact that there are still CPUs being launched for a platform that remains valid and usable especially in parts of the world where getting some of the the components kind of handed down we'll say allows for higher-end machines at hopefully more affordable cost um but even for people who are pretty happy with their build right now it gives you one last option to upgrade so it's nice to see a platform being supported for eight years they do need to go away at some point because you need new technologies to come in um but am4 this this lifespan feels pretty good for it so uh that's about seven years of rizon CPUs and they've got the extra year of of the original am4 launch so great for reducing e-w and great for keeping PCS affordable in a market with extremely expensive gpus uh but our conclusion is pretty straightforward so uh the 5800 X3 we think still makes sense it is not invalidated entirely by this this takes a a good chunk out of the um potential sales for people who are really sensitive to the price and that extra 50 to $65 matters to you um however we think the 58 XP mostly still makes sense as an option because uh if you really are just trying to get one last drop in it then squeezing everything as possible out of that motherboard is probably worth considering with that price Gap however the 5700x is a better value strictly in the sense that uh it's a lot cheaper and the performance Gap is really not that wide so um other than that aspect of the discussion the only thing to really think about is new builds and we've kind of covered that so that's it for this one thanks for watching as always hopefully that helps you make a decision and go check out some more videos the past go weeks have been insane for reviews and we experimented with some really cool new data and charts we'd recommend checking out the AMD Apu reviews if this topic interests you because we've got some cool stuff some discoveries in there uh and AMD is making some changes so that's it for this one thanks for watching as always subscribe for more go to store. 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Length: 22min 9sec (1329 seconds)

Published: Sat Feb 03 2024