Muhammad Ali on Phil Donahue (1977) | Super Rare

he floats like a butterfly it stings like a bee who else but Muhammad Ali the controversial colorful fighter who makes the ring ring with his rhetoric lashing out against prejudice war even taking a few potshots at Howard Cosell is he a super boxer or a superstar a black hero or is he king of the hype a political figure or an athlete join me on the next Donahue and I welcome that pugilist and poet Muhammad Ali the Donnie show number 102 6 7 Muhammad Ali ladies and gentlemen here certainly is more than an athlete he's a political figure of the 20th century I don't think you'll find too many folks will argue with that one of the most popular talked about people in the world mention his name and in some places you're in for an all-night argument maybe it's just a conversation the heavyweight champion of the world Muhammad Ali right [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] the heaviest I've ever seen you you gotta tell me there that's old style beer right yeah you are a little you weren't you - 27 someone there - 30 that's the heaviest you've ever fought isn't it no even having fun is fun yeah you all right you're kind of nervous that Yannick on the big show I'm scared if I can tell these people have some heart here is for you watch out what's this angry question hi I'm Jesse prisoner from Arlington Heights Illinois and seeing you're so good at poetry I was just wondering how you were graded by your teacher in English when you were in school bad bad really - he owned a plus umbrella godson I barely got out of school because what helped me I was the old limping chapter and they didn't want the film it's in those days schools weren't integrated central house black and Shawnee and they all had all his life schools has certain football players or higher on us and they didn't want me to look bad so they passed me but I'm not that good and read no spelling applause okay all of our premises I see I read the poems thank you I got a quick word about the show I love this show and murder style but the P SOT I will be back for a while Galgo from King of Prussia Pennsylvania no I'm a teacher and I'd like to teach you reading since you're not too good at interested I'm not really it's the hardest thing I really hate you can get by but to teach me the time that takes the studying I don't like I might one day learn all about it once your forgive me for my dress I forgot all about coming on this show until 30 minutes how could you forget about I forgot so I didn't have time to get dressed I listened to your friend Howard Cosell this morning he said Ali is getting old he's lost a step he talked about LeDoux and he said the only reason you continue to fight it she can't turn down the money and you need it why do you continue to fight well how cool cell is always talking I just felt a 15-mile five natural winded he gets the mic Muhammad you are tired you're not the same man you were ten years ago she always the limit of his intelligence who is the same there were ten years I'm as his wife is he the same hero to you why do you continue to fight well doing a lot of things nice and little nicer on the business wife where we live in a funny world if you don't have no money I have a name you nobody in this civilization way but if you been the world heavyweight champ for example I might be retired now but I won't until the first night you have about one year to fight a top contender I just thought three weeks ago so I have an I can hold this title for level months before I'm forced to fight in those nine months I'm gonna feel Donahue show us the MMA champion I can go to England I can go to Morocco I'm good other countries things I'm planning business-wise as the world champion and you have more influence you can be paid more so therefore I'm gonna Homer title so little more months I might defend it might not but I got him all in suspense so what happens I don't like is because I tell him off I talk to me like I want to I posed a threat one thing he's there about me it'll say but they don't know what I'm gonna do I might fight it might not but I haven't decided yet you are the game that's the whole point let me let me just if I was a fight promoter the worst thing that could happen to me is for you to get beat you are the whole ball game without you there's no ticket sales some who might be tempted to put some people in there to loss around with you well wish they'd give me some of the wallet because all they give me a hard one well there aren't that many talented challengers either I mean the fight you got Jimmy on the beat him was he wants the clothes there thank you my way and you got kidding Arden beating twice they think you may win Joe Frazier's coming back and you have a few that the minute you want to go out did I hear you say that there were no black heavyweight champs that retired with the crowd no what about Louis who beat Louis Rocky Marciano do yes knocked him out well let's see he retired and he came back and he had knocked out and then marsan appeared because to call off marsala and gene Tunney will all miss TV got outwit to title some undefeated champion look two fights I lost with my title ignore appraisal so I'm still undefeated as a champion and we like to go out with an image in the makes a lot of sense yeah they agree with that so we not too anxious to do too much more gambler yes I was wondering I do you become friends with the menu fight and also when a man hits you and hurts you do you want to come back harder at him do you just like him from hurting you no I just want to get away from him shameless and though they heard no worse no you never get angry you might think that you know what I get you you forget what you're doing to be frustrating isn't bad so but when you get hurt you know feelings training though why do they hurt you don't feel then they love you it's so hard just just have little feelings you chefs a lot of stuff I've been hit hard an accidental a sudden shock and you feel nam and you don't know where yet that's when your actions are that of helplessness and that's where they stop it but you know the punches that her don't like oh maybe you may get the thumb there now you make it real or sweat and burnished on the jaw my main hitlist under your eyes from boxing do you see in that was there yeah there was a yes I've got a couple of scratches from boxing as a man but hey it's like I look scratching my heart there was a kid in your high son who had a punch you said the all-time punch if he ever hits you he just saw hard he tried he came folks in Africa yes in Europe you you'd never get up and everybody said he's gonna get you or what was that are you maker Corky Baker yeah remember those things in your small we all got my stuff you was that the last time you were scared was Corky scared you a little bit nervous never been scared I don't think I'm always thing I'm fighting over some bad airplane flights when the policy ladies everybody thanks to seatbelts it will quite click on my head light thunderstorm they're gonna try to get around well it's all about Corky what was coffees problem if he hits you that was the end of the wire picked up cars you know on all the labels you thinking they're small they better scared ugly make it bring in money in your lunch to school every day and he's just a big bad muscle guy black fella bad everybody scared and one day he start boxing I was going grouse happen and he put the gloves on and they Susan killed but we had a show up there that you're caught tomorrow's Champions and see what happened was if he had got me on the street harassment I would physically keep our killed me but when it comes to boxing muscles don't mean them yes the whoever can hit and not be hit wins and they leave this it's giving hidden long arms and real fast the muscles he know he drawback time he do that aboard ten times our gold and tiny suede so that was that typo so you fought in your own career you fought men who are stronger than you Oh much strong well so strong they use manual who's the strongest what was the strongest no the stone the strongest man just in terms of Ernie chambers really yeah man strong enjoy phrase and George Foreman he hit all he's got to hit on his record and so I don't know why I picked over him at this late in my career I didn't really believe you as as good as it was I predict his one around seven but he was good he took all I had me hit real hard Americans were short memories have got to should be reminded this is a fascination to me you didn't go to the war remember that oh the champ is what's the matter he didn't go to the war you had there was you or them or one of the most oh wait a minute stay with me uh you're in it how do I get here we're not popular you were a political change don't they now you're a cartoon on Saturday morning for kids there was a time when the name will I mean I leave it I'm joined by Islamic faith and they wouldn't announce me I went to medicine everyone says fighting you guys we never call me that name and [ __ ] name and they wouldn't I think one right but things changed think about it at one time a few days ago girls when people just crying over it was freshman and that's all fascinating came in a few days ago the world was shocked and [ __ ] news my luther king the black people did I felt that the Savior died and they couldn't make it that's all your mother's your father's your relatives people nature God blessing us whatever we soon forget and you know some of the things I did the things that happened years ago people soon forget so that's all that wasn't havoc Luca cranes arrived to the streets of the [ __ ] and Kettleman and burn about Mahina no more of that there was the time when black people who couldn't have these seats our senior show few years ago all of us is black people that are working what everybody saw happened peaceful things changed time brings about change to women summer fall season take so therefore that did happen but that's all now that means that you're gonna be the greatest for a very sure of all alternative but for a way what's the point of your story is don't take yourself too seriously and nobody's that good and the cemeteries are filled with them as one of my stories for the milestone is I don't know I bet something is tomorrow's old news and they got to keep printing newspapers Mary Jo compact named little girl who got drawn to it the sooner he's back in the sink talkin Nixon he's gone fishin ain't bad as it was you can't stay mad for so long I don't got mad you like make you oh god man she gets you just told another room stay our she didn't be better next hour and next they should be unless matter so people can just stay there all time we're in Chicago whether you've have you been talking with Joyce brothers okay bad news is about yourself on me what's the William Merritt know well what's the worst thing in having a worse thing they got nada killed death on them but us me and professionally yeah it may hurt your profession cuz they take it off to you oh gosh I can think of a couple things I don't know if I care to go into point is what the to tomorrow I'm staying in the house there for days and panels appeal that day when it's all in the papers they redid they see this paint goes yeah be shame but stay in three or four days in bill didn't you ever be weren't you ever depressed you ever get down come on I mean you know where you just good now you know emotionally depressed feeling sad blue I'm thinking in the sense I know I don't know if you will see if you'll never need a shrink way if you deeply religious off you truly believe in a God then you're gonna grieve I fear too much about too much though I've never been down I would if my daughter my son they got killed that's not happening death has never happened to no close to me yet obviously your mother just passed then will give me but nothing has happened yet I've never never really just down we're in Chicago the home of the heavyweight champion of the world and we'll be back with Muhammad Ali in just a moment [Applause] [Music] Muhammad Ali is with us I thank you for calling is the caller there yes go right ahead friend I'm not Freddie I quit fightin for the sport two years ago I'm fighting as a businessman now it'll cost 12 million all times I have improved I don't have no reason don't worry take hard fights if I can't be satisfied financially I wanna I got have 4 million dollars to take home clear it with the tax system the way there is liberal manager but he makes his share cut with expenses for me to get 4 million I need 12 million Rockefellers YouTube he's still trying to get [Applause] I don't excuse me but your rock sir your question presumes he's not gonna fight Norton he you will fight the winner of the young Norton will get 12 million dollars all right I'm to great now and I've got too much fame and I'm too pretty to be a little tough fights and I didn't pay I don't mean you didn't win your last two fights and how would your life have changed would you have protested no I wouldn't protested I knew I'd won the fight if you heard the film because they had the round by round decision and my trainer would run the dressing room sentimental dressing room and watch the fight wilds fighting life and he would come back tell me you didn't hear four rounds and going into last night if I buy round 11 if that lost every round from 11 to 15 I would one fight I was that far ahead and by the 15th round I got some strict Allah God gave me the strength where coming from had to be outlawed the fifteenth round I came on so strong and just wiped him out completely and what no doubt that I won the fight so I wasn't worried about losing but if I had lost to find naturally my life for change I wouldn't deal there's TV show we're talking on the dollar yes hang on a minute what other sports do you like beside boxing what do you do these sidewalks on one sport I've hiked a great fan of mine one of the biggest fans I have his name is Peng Lai the world's real soccer player because of him no one's gonna watch a soccer because he came to me the day of the fight came in my room I met him for the first time and stayed with a few hours and I went to see his last game and all those thing I'll watch a soccer because of him I should say that you've got a benefit upcoming for a Children's Hospital in Chicago you'll be fighting five serious rounds there's no hair protection real fight cause the last guy to the Father always speaks there's top-notch Olympic young fella I'm Scott LeDoux I'm fighting it for five rounds I don't want any better come out it's gonna be real I'm not charging no money he's not charging than what I was born as people children you want to raise several hundred couple hundred thousand dollar four hundred big as much as you can get huh you want to raise $400,000 and this would be the first time you've ever fought in Chicago first series and this what's the date on this December something December 2nd December 2nd at the auditorium ok we're happy to give you that plug you visited that hospital yesterday yeah imagine being a kid in a hospital and having this guy walk in the room how did you tell us about it I mean you walked over you saw that you saw the children and you said we're gonna fight for these kids and we're gonna have a benefit to raise money for the hospital oh just suppose other than I thought about it because we think you do your heart you don't look for credit for it so God knows what I did and healed and warmness oh I don't need man's or warts I'll rather just do it and not talk about it I'd like to know since your name is now affiliated with the Saturday morning kids show if you feel that being a fighter your image is good for kids to try to imitate me no I don't think he should try to be fighters no Adam they shouldn't take part in no sport for a livelihood they should study and get their brains and I get a per-person together get their education and in a trade do some type of something for sure depending on your body or spoon you might not make it then when you find out you're not gonna make it too late to go back and start over so obviously if I sure get educated and get your mind together who do you predict will be some of the better bigger and better hopefuls to succeed your championship well alone if Kendall was young once he's 33 years old he's too old now there'd be a champion hold it how do you how old are you I'm 35 I say to be a champion and hold it he's too old to being a champion is only 15 years you didn't know I've won the title 22 I'm hailing now so I was 22 years old I'm 35 uh-huh so pretty a while using the girl back there that's 64 and so if Norton's too old then who about Leon Leon Spinks gonna be the man right now from what I see you never can tell they come from nowhere like I did I came from nowhere they thought I was just a lot of mouths and now people listening I was just wondering if ever in the beginning of a fight if you acted like you were hurt just to get like a psychological advantage over the other guy like in the show all the time to do that all the time it's that's how are you hit on my go watch it I decide he comes in drinkin so I think he'll be fighting Norton sure it'll be the same I'll tell you now I'll beat Norton but about one or two rounds there'd be the same old drag always his style of my style of the class three times why you gotta just fought the best one Earnie Shavers Norton you're unwrapped Norton don't shape us the Madison Square Garden all promoters told me and not in a minute but he don't want no parts of any shapeless DeGeorge feel like did you know George form if he come back he would not Norton out again I'm glad you called and I hope you have a nice day we'll be back with Muhammad Ali in just a moment [Applause] [Music] [Music] what is that somebody's guys somebody brought some boxing gloves in that's wonderful really they for you I know they're 8-inch they're 8 ounce - those are dangerous let me put hi is the caller there go right ahead would you take the mat listen I was supposed to fight that Japanese rasuluh and some certain people got me in a room and told me we gonna rehearse the whole thing that's after I sign the contract I said rehearse it and then we can I went to room and they did a few flips they showed an irrational state and then I was supposed to getting bleep and this hadn't happened and I'm even whatever the reason at the time there was wrong but later the people found out that the whole thing was bad man who got the people killed senator was wrong and later they pulled out amid their loss so in the end I was judged as sincere my religious beliefs about the law of the land the Supreme Court the overview of a case is telephone they follow me and they said I was sincere and they did they took all the crime off on that they said I had committed nothing like judge of the land the government finally admitted these are the white people who in the Supreme Court they all said you write the have a hard you might want to get him about it I was I was crucified before the judge me God declares holy wars that is part of the Islamic bloom all through the Bible across if you're reading good you find out how [ __ ] my god yep that makes me nervous Mohammed because I you know I want to know who's gonna be doing the interpreting you know I mean I mean how do you know that it's I can't I have as an egomaniac say uh you know Hitler said boy God wants me I'm sure he had something like that he probably believed that himself but you worry about some messianic no God no but all right maybe you're right but the history of man is is replete with instances of somebody deciding that God wants me to punch you in the nose God what not don't you know what I mean I'm not worried about that polls huh yes my name is Mary Murphy from fosston Minnesota were you an athlete as a child and what advice would you have for children I wouldn't athlete as a child but I think I was a little children for the health but I make a ladder that no no other sport I'd started boxing 12 and today I don't follow sports I don't watch that less alcohol hi I'm Matt Linville petaa from Semien Illinois and I want to know if you're afraid to fight me at Italian fighter you might fade out like Joe Lewis did you know you should be afraid you how about Righetti what does the name I'm not fair you're suggesting that he's afraid of the attack yeah I mean you know Hollywood it's faded out you're talking hey sister how you feeling fine brother no conscience of going out loser after doing so much a little bit I don't worry too much about it I mean that Jermaine from Sheldon and I my son said if I didn't ask you this question I couldn't come home so I have to he'd like to see your muscles I'm excited assalamualaikum father goes alone I'd like to know if you're serious about your movie career and if you have a message in the roles that you do know movies about doing would like to something that's good manager and this is why long taken the roles I've been off of so many they want to always talk about sex and taking off clothes and certain gestures to make you think things and it's my long doing it with the terrific fighting in the pounding that you get aren't you worried about your health in the future that's right this is why after each fight I'm run right to the mirror solar garden but you know if you take too many punches are your kidneys gonna be better yeah brains can be off some fighters it's like they're very few fighters today right now these kid nuns and people you talking about the freighters and for months they can't come on this show and talk like it's mostly I won't say those names exactly but not naming nobody but there is Fido - talk about surgeon most I'm Thomas Bach so they can lecture Harvey University Oxford University two years ago certain papers they offered me a professorship to teach philosophy and portrait Oxford and I'm about 182 colleges now my scholars agent overweight and demand America to let you all type subject so very few people I was in blissful God have a talent of speaking I think and I'm not just a box of this is what carries me on over here champ you've been boxing for 35 on that for that if I use been boxing for more than 23 no dick is about time to quit every 35 years our old man if I if I had a lower IQ I can enjoy your question no no I think that my manager Herbert Muhammad and me we have we have more sense than you about Who I am or what I got there we are wise enough to Mastercraft myself up to here and I don't need you or nobody now to come in to guide me I know how to leave the same God took me where I'm at now the same Muhammad Ali the same Muhammad - Mohammed the same lawyers we can set amount and plan my life much so wise until you can't understand it we know what we're doing the second question has two years ago they made a record I'll call Muhammad Ali I wonder did you promote that and any when 12 records out on me and all over kept off the charts for some reason I got a cartoon it comes on television now and the white producers of NBC tell me the reason it's not doing too good is because it's a good movie the cartoon is good but the white population of a hold of you but not yet ready for black heroes that's what they told me NBC the wonder big metal show because I come off good I'm always beating alligators or crocodiles and then Tarzan is the ski mode in America then white the spider-man Superman these are white images Jesus Lloris up all the angels everything this country is based on white so therefore we thank you this won't be in a while before they start to recognize and no children so another like images so this is why the cartoon don't do the things I should do yes hi I'm barb Oldenburg from Walmart Wisconsin and I was wondering you said you were into a lot of businesses is that the line you're gonna follow like the rest of your life or I don't think I said what do you do when you're not fighting well shows TV shows like now sit at home phone my phone rings when I get home I'll have about I got a call today from Johannesburg South Africa from the black leaders of South Africa I want to know if I could come over and give the people in morale what can I tell and I've been offered so many times go but I'm being protested by claiming African countries not to go but I have so many calls at home I'm always on the phone going places to speak I'm always doing something I got some state bids I've never hold I'm giving to go to a place called Benghazi and Tripoli Libya Colonel Qaddafi the leader of Libya has invited me and my family to be in his palace but we just as visi the country I'm always doing something I don't know what it's gonna be with us babe is high as the collar there go right ahead okay not much time okay I've been watching your fights and I see in a lot of rounds that you have your super good in another round you seem to play a looser style though why don't you concentrate on your better fighting ability I don't know maybe you should be my manager well see I tell you over friends I do a lot of things you might not understand one round of my wind around my fight a good fight next not on my knee on the ropes because I burned so much energy that round miscalculated built in the size telling me that you cannot fight on this whole fight you put everything you had on the man he didn't I he didn't hurt him and at this pace I'm in myself I cannot keep it up so you better rest the next round this is why I fight like I do because I know myself I'm number condition I know the man I'm fighting you can't understand them but I know like I heard something once it says our knowledge is too limited to judge the actions of God people say why all these kids that pollute if there's a god why that plane crash and kill all the people in Canary Islands probably some miles on the planes but trying to be worse than Hitler I don't know I don't know why God killed him we came with questions on you can't question look like a question me why I'll fight like a party and I got a break we'll be back in just a moment [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] we're just gonna show you that it's not size that counts it's how it's how fast you are we could charge what could we get for just this fight alright just alright I'm serious now I mean it alright [Applause] [Music] [Applause] services provided and promotional fees paid by the new ford fairmont a car built for today but designed for the years ahead the Ford in your future test drive it now Fairmont the newest better idea from Ford [Music]

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Length: 35min 56sec (2156 seconds)

Published: Fri Jun 26 2020