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Well, I got two cough drops Well, I got two cough drops
here all perfectly in half. here all perfectly in half.
I’ll just take what I want. I’ll just take what I want.
Do you know why we’re Do you know why we’re
laughing? laughing?
Okay, you don’t know why Okay, you don’t know why
we’re laughing, huh? we’re laughing, huh?
Well, I came up here. Well, I came up here.
I don’t have water. I don’t have water.
So I said to the guard, So I said to the guard,
"I don’t have any water," "I don’t have any water,"
and he’s flying. and he’s flying.
I don’t know where he I don’t know where he
landed. landed.
(all chuckle) (all chuckle)
Anyway, we do have this Anyway, we do have this
little gadget. little gadget.
You know, I read a book that You know, I read a book that
was sent to me--I thought was sent to me--I thought
it was a gift, turned out to it was a gift, turned out to
be a mistake. be a mistake.
(all chuckle) (all chuckle)
They sent it to the They sent it to the
wrong place but anyway, wrong place but anyway,
I started to read it. I started to read it.
Oh, thank you. Oh, thank you.
I already told them I already told them
about you. about you.
You might as well come up You might as well come up
with it. with it.
(all chuckle) (all chuckle)
Thank you. Thank you.
Wooh. Wooh.
I have a thing with ice and I have a thing with ice and
that’s going to stick me that’s going to stick me
right in the nose. right in the nose.
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
(pause) (pause)
You know, you can’t even have You know, you can’t even have
a glass of water without, a glass of water without,
(group laughs) (group laughs)
without turmoil or something, without turmoil or something,
and my hand’s all wet. and my hand’s all wet.
Anyway, it’s fun. Anyway, it’s fun.
Anyway, I read this book. Anyway, I read this book.
It’s called<u> <i> Forty Dreams of</i></u> It’s called<u> <i> Forty Dreams of
St. John Bosco.</i></u> <i><u>St. John Bosco.</u></i>
Well, he called them dreams, Well, he called them dreams,
but they were vision. but they were vision.
Thank you. Thank you.
Oh boy, how’d you do that? Oh boy, how’d you do that?
They were visions, really, and I want to read it and I want to read it
to you. to you.
I just want, you know, I’m I just want, you know, I’m
always kind of hard on you, always kind of hard on you,
you know. you know.
I’m always threatening you I’m always threatening you
with Hellfire and I make with Hellfire and I make
you want to go to Confession you want to go to Confession
and I tell you how terrible and I tell you how terrible
you are and how many sins you are and how many sins
there are and you’re not there are and you’re not
doing a good job. doing a good job.
And tonight, I thought I’d And tonight, I thought I’d
be nice, to a point. be nice, to a point.
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
I’m going to be nice tonight I’m going to be nice tonight
and I am going to read you and I am going to read you
a vision of Don Bosco. a vision of Don Bosco.
Now, Don Bosco is a saint. Now, Don Bosco is a saint.
All of this is approved. All of this is approved.
So you don’t have to So you don’t have to
wonder, worry, or get wonder, worry, or get
frustrated. frustrated.
Now, this is Don Bosco, Now, this is Don Bosco,
right here, and he founded right here, and he founded
the Salesian Order. the Salesian Order.
It says, "On the night of It says, "On the night of
December 6, the following December 6, the following
happened. happened.
"It seemed to me I was "It seemed to me I was
standing on a hill looking standing on a hill looking
down on an immense plain down on an immense plain
that stretched away into the that stretched away into the
invisible distance." invisible distance."
Can you imagine that? Can you imagine that?
You got that in your mind? You got that in your mind?
That’s a pretty big place. That’s a pretty big place.
"It was as blue as the sea "It was as blue as the sea
and perfect calm." and perfect calm."
So you can see this blue So you can see this blue
expanse, and it went far as expanse, and it went far as
he could see. he could see.
"But I wasn’t looking at "But I wasn’t looking at
water. water.
"It was crystal, unblemished "It was crystal, unblemished
and sparkling." and sparkling."
How do you like that? How do you like that?
All you people going to All you people going to
Hell, you better change Hell, you better change
your mind! your mind!
(group laughs) (group laughs)
I told you I wouldn’t be I told you I wouldn’t be
totally good, but... totally good, but...
"Long and broad avenues "Long and broad avenues
divided the plain into large divided the plain into large
gardens of indescribable gardens of indescribable
beauty." beauty."
Can you image that? Can you image that?
Big gardens, ".in which were Big gardens, ".in which were
lawns, groves of ornamental lawns, groves of ornamental
trees, flowering shrubs, trees, flowering shrubs,
flower beds, everything you flower beds, everything you
see in an awesome garden." see in an awesome garden."
I saw a garden of a past I saw a garden of a past
kind, I forget who he was. kind, I forget who he was.
Everything was manicured-- Everything was manicured--
I mean, the shrubs looked I mean, the shrubs looked
like animals. like animals.
It was awesome! It was awesome!
Well, "There were trees," Well, "There were trees,"
now, listen to this, now, listen to this,
"There were trees whose "There were trees whose
leaves seemed to be of gold leaves seemed to be of gold
and branches and trunks of and branches and trunks of
these trees precious stones." these trees precious stones."
Can you imagine that? Can you imagine that?
Whew! Whew!
See what you’re going to See what you’re going to
miss if you don’t stop miss if you don’t stop
monkeying around. monkeying around.
"Scattered here and there in "Scattered here and there in
the gardens were buildings the gardens were buildings
whose appearance and whose appearance and
magnificence was something magnificence was something
to behold. to behold.
"I could not estimate what "I could not estimate what
immense sums of money even immense sums of money even
one of those would have cost one of those would have cost
to build." to build."
See, he thought he was See, he thought he was
on earth--that was on earth--that was
the whole problem. the whole problem.
"As I stood there rapt "As I stood there rapt
in wonder, the sound of in wonder, the sound of
sweet, entrancing music sweet, entrancing music
filled the air. filled the air.
"All possible instruments "All possible instruments
seemed to be combining seemed to be combining
in harmony. in harmony.
"Then I saw a great throng of "Then I saw a great throng of
people in the gardens. people in the gardens.
"Some were walking, some were "Some were walking, some were
sitting, all, all radiantly sitting, all, all radiantly
happy. happy.
"Some were playing "Some were playing
instruments but it was instruments but it was
obvious they all derived obvious they all derived
equal pleasure hearing the equal pleasure hearing the
others." others."
Now, you don’t get that Now, you don’t get that
on earth. on earth.
I have one sister practicing I have one sister practicing
on a trumpet. on a trumpet.
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
I know, I always thought if I know, I always thought if
you had a trumpet and you you had a trumpet and you
blew, something would come blew, something would come
out, and it does, but it’s not out, and it does, but it’s not
recognizable. recognizable.
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
She blows hard. She blows hard.
And so when I pass that And so when I pass that
particular room I go. particular room I go.
She’ll learn, she’ll learn. She’ll learn, she’ll learn.
But see, I don’t see this But see, I don’t see this
in the horizon, yet. in the horizon, yet.
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
I really don’t. I really don’t.
(all chuckle) (all chuckle)
Now, "They were Now, "They were
singing in Latin." singing in Latin."
How do you like that? How do you like that?
"They were singing, ’Honor "They were singing, ’Honor
and glory to God the and glory to God the
Almighty Father, Creator of Almighty Father, Creator of
the Ages Who was, Who is, the Ages Who was, Who is,
and Who will come to judge and Who will come to judge
the living and the dead.’ the living and the dead.’
"Then suddenly, I saw an "Then suddenly, I saw an
army of boys, many of them I army of boys, many of them I
knew, many I didn’t know. knew, many I didn’t know.
"This endless line began "This endless line began
moving towards me, and ahead moving towards me, and ahead
of it was Dominic Savio." of it was Dominic Savio."
Now, Dominic Savio was one Now, Dominic Savio was one
of the boys that Don Bosco of the boys that Don Bosco
took care of, and he died, took care of, and he died,
a very saintly life. a very saintly life.
Well, "I did not know Well, "I did not know
whether I was awake or whether I was awake or
dreaming. dreaming.
"I clapped my hands together "I clapped my hands together
and felt my arms and chest and felt my arms and chest
to see if it was real, to see if it was real,
to see if I was real. to see if I was real.
"Then an intense brilliant "Then an intense brilliant
light shone around. light shone around.
"All the boys were radiant "All the boys were radiant
with happiness." with happiness."
Wouldn’t you like to walk Wouldn’t you like to walk
down a sidewalk or drive down a sidewalk or drive
your car and wait for a red your car and wait for a red
light and have the guy next light and have the guy next
to you say, "Hi!" to you say, "Hi!"
instead of going, instead of going,
"Why don’t you move? "Why don’t you move?
The light turned." The light turned."
You wouldn’t have any You wouldn’t have any
of that. of that.
Can you imagine this place Can you imagine this place
where everyone there enjoys where everyone there enjoys
one another? one another?
Listen, "This light shone in Listen, "This light shone in
all the boys’ eyes and their all the boys’ eyes and their
faces had ineffable peace faces had ineffable peace
and contentment." and contentment."
Wow! Wow!
"They smiled at me and they "They smiled at me and they
looked as if they were going looked as if they were going
to say something, but to say something, but
they didn’t. they didn’t.
"Now, Dominic walked "Now, Dominic walked
forward," you know, "on his forward," you know, "on his
own until he stood close to own until he stood close to
me, and he looks at me. me, and he looks at me.
"And oh, he had on a white "And oh, he had on a white
tunic which reached to his tunic which reached to his
feet, interwoven with golden feet, interwoven with golden
thread and sparkling jewels. thread and sparkling jewels.
"Around his waist had a broad "Around his waist had a broad
red sash that had precious red sash that had precious
stones of every color. stones of every color.
"Around his neck there was a "Around his neck there was a
necklace of wild flowers and necklace of wild flowers and
they were filled with they were filled with
precious stones. precious stones.
"The others were dressed in "The others were dressed in
various degrees of splendor, various degrees of splendor,
splendor. splendor.
"I thought to myself, "I thought to myself,
’What does this mean ’What does this mean
and where am I?’ and where am I?’
Then Dominic spoke." Then Dominic spoke."
And Dominic said to Don And Dominic said to Don
Bosco said, "Why are you Bosco said, "Why are you
standing there as if you standing there as if you
were dumb?" were dumb?"
(laughs) I thought that (laughs) I thought that
was great! was great!
(group laughs) (group laughs)
That’s the kind of way That’s the kind of way
I would have talked to him. I would have talked to him.
That’s why I like that. That’s why I like that.
"Are you not the one I knew "Are you not the one I knew
who was always so fearless, who was always so fearless,
able to sustain able to sustain
persecutions, calumnies and persecutions, calumnies and
dangers of every kind? dangers of every kind?
Have you lost your courage?" Have you lost your courage?"
(laughs) You even get (laughs) You even get
it there! it there!
"I replied, ’Are you really "I replied, ’Are you really
Dominic Savio?’ Dominic Savio?’
"’Don’t you recognize me?’ "’Don’t you recognize me?’
Dominic said. Dominic said.
"’Well, how is it you’re "’Well, how is it you’re
here?’ here?’
"’I have come to talk to "’I have come to talk to
you,’ he said. you,’ he said.
"’We spoke together when I "’We spoke together when I
was alive. was alive.
"’You were always so kind and "’You were always so kind and
generous to me. generous to me.
Ask me anything you wish.’" Ask me anything you wish.’"
Boy, I’m glad I wasn’t Boy, I’m glad I wasn’t
there. there.
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
That would be very dangerous. That would be very dangerous.
So Don Bosco said, So Don Bosco said,
"’Where am I?’ "’Where am I?’
"He said, ’You’re in a "He said, ’You’re in a
place of happiness, where place of happiness, where
all that is beautiful can be all that is beautiful can be
enjoyed.’ enjoyed.’
"’Is this Heaven?’ "’Is this Heaven?’
He said, ’No.’" He said, ’No.’"
You know what I thought? You know what I thought?
There’s nothing here that There’s nothing here that
says it--I’m wondering if says it--I’m wondering if
that was Limbo. that was Limbo.
I just got to wonder because I just got to wonder because
here, here’s what he says. here, here’s what he says.
"He says, ’No, whatever is "He says, ’No, whatever is
here is of the earth, here is of the earth,
although improved beyond although improved beyond
conception by the power conception by the power
of God.’" of God.’"
Wow! Wow!
Don’t that sound like Limbo? Don’t that sound like Limbo?
"No living person can ever "No living person can ever
see or imagine the wonders see or imagine the wonders
of eternity." of eternity."
They can’t even imagine They can’t even imagine
this vision, what this is. this vision, what this is.
"And he said, ’Would it be "And he said, ’Would it be
possible to have natural possible to have natural
light more brilliant than light more brilliant than
this?’ this?’
"And Dominic Savio said, "And Dominic Savio said,
’Oh yes, yes, yes, yes.’ ’Oh yes, yes, yes, yes.’
"He said, ’Now look in "He said, ’Now look in
distance." distance."
Poor Don Bosco’s looking, Poor Don Bosco’s looking,
and way in a distance he and way in a distance he
sees a most beautiful light, sees a most beautiful light,
way out. way out.
"I looked, and a ray of light "I looked, and a ray of light
suddenly appeared, so suddenly appeared, so
penetrating and of such penetrating and of such
brilliance that I had to brilliance that I had to
close my eyes. close my eyes.
"And I cried out in alarm so "And I cried out in alarm so
loudly I woke the priest up loudly I woke the priest up
next door. next door.
"I opened my eyes after a "I opened my eyes after a
moment and said, ’But surely, moment and said, ’But surely,
that’s divine light.’ that’s divine light.’
"And Dominic said, ’No, "And Dominic said, ’No,
even that does not give you even that does not give you
any idea of divine life. any idea of divine life.
"’In Heaven we enjoy God, "’In Heaven we enjoy God,
and that’s everything,’ and that’s everything,’
he said." he said."
I want to impress upon you, I want to impress upon you,
because this was so visual, because this was so visual,
what we could forfeit by what we could forfeit by
living a bad life. living a bad life.
And this isn’t even Heaven! And this isn’t even Heaven!
This is, (heavy sigh) This is, (heavy sigh)
I don’t know what it is. I don’t know what it is.
It’s an ante-chamber. It’s an ante-chamber.
Maybe it is. Maybe it is.
Who knows? Who knows?
We never did know We never did know
where it was. where it was.
"I had by now recovered my "I had by now recovered my
amazement and I said, ’Why amazement and I said, ’Why
are you wearing this are you wearing this
dazzling white tunic?’ dazzling white tunic?’
"And Dominic didn’t answer, "And Dominic didn’t answer,
but the choir answered in but the choir answered in
Latin. Latin.
’They had their loins girt ’They had their loins girt
and had washed their tunics and had washed their tunics
in the blood of the Lamb.’ in the blood of the Lamb.’
"Then I realized the red "Then I realized the red
sash was a symbol of their sash was a symbol of their
great efforts and sacrifices great efforts and sacrifices
to be holy and pure. to be holy and pure.
"My eyes were drawn to these "My eyes were drawn to these
ranks of boys behind Dominic ranks of boys behind Dominic
and I said to him, ’Who are and I said to him, ’Who are
these boys and why are they these boys and why are they
so radiant?’ so radiant?’
"And Dominic said, ’These "And Dominic said, ’These
are like,’" are like,’"
he didn’t say they<i> were</i> he didn’t say they<i> were</i>
but, "’like the angels of but, "’like the angels of
Heaven.’ Heaven.’
And he said, ’Why do you And he said, ’Why do you
take precedence, since you’re take precedence, since you’re
not the oldest?’ not the oldest?’
"And Dominic Savio said, "And Dominic Savio said,
’I am God’s ambassador.’" ’I am God’s ambassador.’"
Now, you get the Now, you get the
impression--reminds me of impression--reminds me of
something that’s kind of something that’s kind of
funny. funny.
This old Irish woman This old Irish woman
didn’t want to die. didn’t want to die.
And the priest came over, And the priest came over,
anointed her and he said, anointed her and he said,
"You’ve got to die now. "You’ve got to die now.
"God wants you. "God wants you.
This is your time." This is your time."
"No," she said, "I can’t die. "No," she said, "I can’t die.
"They have no tay up there. "They have no tay up there.
"I’ve got to have my tay in "I’ve got to have my tay in
the, morning, in the noon the, morning, in the noon
and at night!" and at night!"
She’s talking about tea, She’s talking about tea,
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
in case my Irish accent in case my Irish accent
isn’t too good. isn’t too good.
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
And Father looked at her And Father looked at her
and he said, "Oh but they and he said, "Oh but they
do have tay up there!" do have tay up there!"
She said, "Are you sure?" She said, "Are you sure?"
"Oh yeah. "Oh yeah.
"There’s Glorificamus te "There’s Glorificamus te
and Benedicimus te, and Benedicimus te,
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
"Benedicimus te and "Benedicimus te and
Glorificamus te." Glorificamus te."
"Oh," she said, "then "Oh," she said, "then
I’ll go." I’ll go."
And she died. And she died.
Anyway, I really don’t think Anyway, I really don’t think
it’s true, but it sounds it’s true, but it sounds
good. good.
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
Now, Don Bosco was a practical Now, Don Bosco was a practical
man and he was going to man and he was going to
take advantage of take advantage of
the opportunity. the opportunity.
And he says, "’Tell me about And he says, "’Tell me about
my work.’ my work.’
"And Dominic Savio said, "And Dominic Savio said,
’In regard to the past, your ’In regard to the past, your
congregation does much good. congregation does much good.
"’Look over there. "’Look over there.
"’There is a great gathering of boys.’" of boys.’"
So Don Bosco looks in So Don Bosco looks in
that direction, oh how many that direction, oh how many
there were, hundreds and there were, hundreds and
thousands. thousands.
He said, ’Now look what’s He said, ’Now look what’s
written on the entrance of written on the entrance of
the garden.’ the garden.’
It said, ’Salesian Garden.’ It said, ’Salesian Garden.’
’Now, all those there are ’Now, all those there are
those who have been educated those who have been educated
by you or your sons.’" by you or your sons.’"
Then he said something I never Then he said something I never
forgot when I read this forgot when I read this
years and years ago. years and years ago.
"He said, Dominic Savio said "He said, Dominic Savio said
to Don Bosco, ’Count them if to Don Bosco, ’Count them if
you can. you can.
"’But they would be many, many "’But they would be many, many
more still if only you had more still if only you had
greater faith and confidence greater faith and confidence
in God.’" in God.’"
That scared me. That scared me.
I don’t know about you but I don’t know about you but
it scared me. it scared me.
And all my life--my life And all my life--my life
since I began to know Jesus since I began to know Jesus
--you know, I’ve always --you know, I’ve always
feared that, always feared. feared that, always feared.
If I think God has inspired If I think God has inspired
me to do something, I’m me to do something, I’m
going to do it right then going to do it right then
and there. and there.
Why? Why?
I’m afraid. I’m afraid.
I’m afraid to I’m afraid to
disappoint Him. disappoint Him.
I don’t know what’s I don’t know what’s
tagged on. tagged on.
In all this that’s gone In all this that’s gone
on the last 20 years here, on the last 20 years here,
sometimes the greatest sometimes the greatest
miracle was hitched onto the miracle was hitched onto the
tiniest inspiration or a tiniest inspiration or a
phone call where you could phone call where you could
just as well never made. just as well never made.
(heavy sigh) (heavy sigh)
Kind of scary to me. Kind of scary to me.
I don’t want to miss an I don’t want to miss an
opportunity. So Don Bosco was, he felt So Don Bosco was, he felt
very bad. very bad.
He determined that from then He determined that from then
on he was going to have more on he was going to have more
faith and more trust in God faith and more trust in God
and you need to do that and you need to do that
tonight. tonight.
We all do. We all do.
We need to have more trust We need to have more trust
and faith in God. and faith in God.
We need to. We need to.
You know, we have upon You know, we have upon
ourselves many gods, ourselves many gods,
many gods. many gods.
We have the god of We have the god of
computers. computers.
You say, "Well, what’s wrong You say, "Well, what’s wrong
with computers?" with computers?"
Nothing, unless it’s Nothing, unless it’s
become your god. become your god.
Everything is run by Everything is run by
computers. computers.
This whole network is run This whole network is run
by all kinds of machines, by all kinds of machines,
big machines. big machines.
If we didn’t have them, If we didn’t have them,
we couldn’t reach you. we couldn’t reach you.
We couldn’t talk to you We couldn’t talk to you
about Jesus or a place about Jesus or a place
that’s not Heaven--it’s that’s not Heaven--it’s
pretty close, though--and pretty close, though--and
it’s real and it’s there. it’s real and it’s there.
Well, you see, what’s Well, you see, what’s
happening is, I think in the happening is, I think in the
world, we can do anything. world, we can do anything.
We can accomplish almost We can accomplish almost
anything. anything.
We put a man on the moon We put a man on the moon
and then we got tired of and then we got tired of
that and we do other things. that and we do other things.
We clone sheep and now We clone sheep and now
they’re cloning, trying they’re cloning, trying
to clone a human being. to clone a human being.
And see, we’re so And see, we’re so
preoccupied with these preoccupied with these
modern wonders that they’ve modern wonders that they’ve
kind of substituted for God. kind of substituted for God.
We don’t need anything. We don’t need anything.
We have a lot of gadgets, We have a lot of gadgets,
millions of gadgets. millions of gadgets.
You push a button and this You push a button and this
happens and you push another happens and you push another
button and that happens. button and that happens.
(heavy sigh) Some are good, (heavy sigh) Some are good,
some not so good, see. some not so good, see.
And we’re trained 1st grade, And we’re trained 1st grade,
2nd grade, 3rd grade--we’re 2nd grade, 3rd grade--we’re
trained to use computers. trained to use computers.
Well, like I said, there’s Well, like I said, there’s
nothing wrong with it, nothing wrong with it,
unless you’re so dependent unless you’re so dependent
upon things that God is not upon things that God is not
necessary in your life. necessary in your life.
That’s the problem, you see. That’s the problem, you see.
It’s true of everything It’s true of everything
really--money, position, really--money, position,
greed, ambition, honors. greed, ambition, honors.
It’s all become so much It’s all become so much
a part of our life. a part of our life.
If you’re filled, you’re If you’re filled, you’re
not hungry. not hungry.
Right? Right?
If your tummy’s full, If your tummy’s full,
you’re not hungry. you’re not hungry.
Did you ever get hungry Did you ever get hungry
with a full stomach? with a full stomach?
No, you can’t. No, you can’t.
Even looking at food Even looking at food
can be disgusting. can be disgusting.
So we’re all full today. So we’re all full today.
The whole world is full The whole world is full
of things. of things.
Yeah, and we don’t need God. Yeah, and we don’t need God.
Because that’s why on Because that’s why on
elections we’re so uptight, elections we’re so uptight,
because it’s the economy. because it’s the economy.
You got to worry about the You got to worry about the
economy and when you look at economy and when you look at
the world today. the world today.
I read a wonderful book, I read a wonderful book,
I can’t tell you what I can’t tell you what
it is ’cause then you’re it is ’cause then you’re
all going to ask for it all going to ask for it
and I don’t have it and and I don’t have it and
you’ll be mad and I’ll be you’ll be mad and I’ll be
sad cause I can’t get sad cause I can’t get
it to you. it to you.
Maybe I’ll find out Maybe I’ll find out
how I can. how I can.
But it’s a rendition of all But it’s a rendition of all
the chastisements that have the chastisements that have
happened since Abraham. happened since Abraham.
And they all happened for And they all happened for
one reason--they didn’t one reason--they didn’t
need God anymore. need God anymore.
They were sufficient unto They were sufficient unto
themselves and little by themselves and little by
little the Lord took little the Lord took
this away and then He took this away and then He took
that away and then He that away and then He
took that away. took that away.
Why? Why?
Because He loves you. Because He loves you.
He loves us all. He loves us all.
He loves every one of us. He loves every one of us.
He wants you to go to this He wants you to go to this
place--beyond this place place--beyond this place
because this wasn’t even because this wasn’t even
Heaven. Heaven.
Well, let’s go on and Well, let’s go on and
see what happens. see what happens.
"He said, ’These flowers are "He said, ’These flowers are
virtues and qualities that virtues and qualities that
all these boys had.’" all these boys had.’"
See, they’re virtues, See, they’re virtues,
quality of soul that all quality of soul that all
of these... of these...
Now, here’s what it says, Now, here’s what it says,
"The rose is a symbol of "The rose is a symbol of
their love, the violet a their love, the violet a
symbol of their humility, symbol of their humility,
the sunflowers are of the sunflowers are of
obedience, Gentium of obedience, Gentium of
penance, the ears of corn, penance, the ears of corn,
frequent Communion." frequent Communion."
See, what happens here, See, what happens here,
you and I can practice you and I can practice
virtue. virtue.
We can say "yes" to God We can say "yes" to God
when it’s hard to say when it’s hard to say
"yes" to God. "yes" to God.
We can give Him everything We can give Him everything
we have. we have.
We can love our neighbor We can love our neighbor
and do good to our neighbor. and do good to our neighbor.
We want to imitate Jesus. We want to imitate Jesus.
But when we get there But when we get there
everybody will know in everybody will know in
what you excelled. what you excelled.
They’ll look at you and all They’ll look at you and all
the glory and splendor of the glory and splendor of
your garments, of your face, your garments, of your face,
of your whole being and they of your whole being and they
will know, "This man was so will know, "This man was so
humble." humble."
See, the sacrifices we See, the sacrifices we
make here turn into awesome make here turn into awesome
jewels there. jewels there.
Now, you say, "You’re Now, you say, "You’re
pulling my leg." pulling my leg."
Look, I’m going to pull Look, I’m going to pull
your leg! your leg!
It’s about time you’ll It’s about time you’ll
catch on catch on
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
to why you’re here! to why you’re here!
It’s ridiculous not to know It’s ridiculous not to know
these things. these things.
See, we go around suffering See, we go around suffering
and we offer this up and we and we offer this up and we
offer that up and we say, offer that up and we say,
"What’s the use? "What’s the use?
"Look at so and so. "Look at so and so.
"He’s a liar, he’s a cheat, "He’s a liar, he’s a cheat,
he’s a deceiver and he’s an he’s a deceiver and he’s an
adulterer and rides around adulterer and rides around
in a Rolls Royce." in a Rolls Royce."
I can tell you where that I can tell you where that
Rolls Royce is going Rolls Royce is going
to end up. to end up.
He’s not taking it with him. He’s not taking it with him.
This poor beggar on the This poor beggar on the
street may die and have street may die and have
the most awesome garments the most awesome garments
because he was humble and because he was humble and
loving and patient and loving and patient and
accepted God’s Will accepted God’s Will
in his life. in his life.
That’s the way it is! That’s the way it is!
That’s the way it is! That’s the way it is!
Now, isn’t it good? Now, isn’t it good?
Isn’t that good? Isn’t that good?
"And then Don Bosco asked "And then Don Bosco asked
Dominic Savio, ’What was the Dominic Savio, ’What was the
greatest consolation you had greatest consolation you had
when you died?’" when you died?’"
Do you know what he said? Do you know what he said?
"The greatest consolation "The greatest consolation
was the loving care and help was the loving care and help
of the Mother of God." of the Mother of God."
Oh, all of you that Oh, all of you that
kind of dumped Our Lady, kind of dumped Our Lady,
you better get straight. you better get straight.
You better shape up. You better shape up.
She’ll be there but you’ve She’ll be there but you’ve
got to bring Her back in got to bring Her back in
your life. your life.
She’s Our Great Intercessor. She’s Our Great Intercessor.
"Then Don Bosco asked about "Then Don Bosco asked about
the future." the future."
And he got it! And he got it!
"Dominic Savio said, ’In "Dominic Savio said, ’In
this coming year, you will this coming year, you will
have great sorrows to bear. have great sorrows to bear.
"’All together, eight of your "’All together, eight of your
sons will die, but be of sons will die, but be of
good health. good health.
"’They will all go to Heaven. "’They will all go to Heaven.
"’God is with you and with "’God is with you and with
your sons.’" your sons.’"
Well, this kind of Well, this kind of
goes on. goes on.
Don Bosco asked about Don Bosco asked about
Pius IX and Dominic Savio Pius IX and Dominic Savio
said, "He won’t be said, "He won’t be
here long." here long."
Then the funny part of it Then the funny part of it
is, Dominic Savio is going is, Dominic Savio is going
to start to leave. to start to leave.
He said, "My time is up." He said, "My time is up."
(chuckles) I thought (chuckles) I thought
that’s kind of cute. that’s kind of cute.
God gave him so much time God gave him so much time
and he’s losing it. and he’s losing it.
His time is up. His time is up.
So what does Dominic-- So what does Dominic--
what does Don Bosco do? what does Don Bosco do?
He tries to grab hold He tries to grab hold
of him! (laughs) of him! (laughs)
That was a mistake! That was a mistake!
and, "Dominic Savio said, and, "Dominic Savio said,
’What are you trying to do?’ ’What are you trying to do?’
"He said, ’I don’t want to "He said, ’I don’t want to
let you go. let you go.
"’Are you bodily here? "’Are you bodily here?
"’Are you really my son "’Are you really my son
Dominic?’ Dominic?’
"’Well,’ Dominic said, "’Well,’ Dominic said,
’this is how things are. ’this is how things are.
"’In God’s providence, if "’In God’s providence, if
someone who is dead has to someone who is dead has to
appear to someone still appear to someone still
alive, he is seen as a alive, he is seen as a
normal body but you cannot normal body but you cannot
touch him.’" touch him.’"
You know, Our Lady of You know, Our Lady of
Fatima--or La Salette, I Fatima--or La Salette, I
forget--Our Lady promised forget--Our Lady promised
that after the warning or that after the warning or
whatever comes, whatever comes,
purification, whatever you purification, whatever you
want to call it, Our Lord want to call it, Our Lord
and Our Lady will leave a and Our Lady will leave a
sign that you can televise-- sign that you can televise--
we’ll be there--that you we’ll be there--that you
can see but you can’t touch. can see but you can’t touch.
And I’ll make a bet-- And I’ll make a bet--
I’m making all kind of bets I’m making all kind of bets
tonight--I’ll make a bet tonight--I’ll make a bet
that this is what’s going that this is what’s going
to happen. to happen.
You’re going to reach for You’re going to reach for
it, it’s going to be like it, it’s going to be like
air, but when you come back, air, but when you come back,
there it is again. there it is again.
Oh, I think wonderful things Oh, I think wonderful things
are going to happen!! are going to happen!!
I’m getting excited because I’m getting excited because
I think finally (heavy sigh) I think finally (heavy sigh)
the Lord will deliver us the Lord will deliver us
from the power of satan. from the power of satan.
He will. He will.
Be of good cheer. Be of good cheer.
This, that I read you, This, that I read you,
wasn’t even Heaven. wasn’t even Heaven.
I think it was Limbo but I I think it was Limbo but I
can’t prove it. can’t prove it.
All you theologians out All you theologians out
there, don’t jump up and there, don’t jump up and
down. down.
You can’t prove it either. You can’t prove it either.
That’s the way it is. That’s the way it is.
Heaven is of such beauty and Heaven is of such beauty and
it’s right and just that you it’s right and just that you
and I work for it. and I work for it.
From nothing comes more From nothing comes more
nothing. nothing.
It’s right that we work It’s right that we work
for it. for it.
It’s right, it’s right It’s right, it’s right
that we’re purified. that we’re purified.
It’s right that you and I It’s right that you and I
have to suffer many, many have to suffer many, many
things because He did. things because He did.
It’s all right and it’s just It’s all right and it’s just
because of what you’re going because of what you’re going
to see because of what to see because of what
you’re going to look at, you’re going to look at,
what you’re going to hear, what you’re going to hear,
what you’re going to know. what you’re going to know.
And the love there is so And the love there is so
awesome--you can’t even awesome--you can’t even
imagine being loved by imagine being loved by
everybody. everybody.
Don’t you all have somebody Don’t you all have somebody
that don’t love you, thinks that don’t love you, thinks
you’re a pill? you’re a pill?
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
I got a lot of people I got a lot of people
that think I’m a pill! that think I’m a pill!
I don’t care. I don’t care.
It doesn’t bother me any. It doesn’t bother me any.
But see, all of these But see, all of these
things.. You know, Our Lord things.. You know, Our Lord
said, "If you suffer said, "If you suffer
persecution for the love of persecution for the love of
Him you’d get brothers, Him you’d get brothers,
sisters, mothers, fathers, sisters, mothers, fathers,
homes and land and homes and land and
everything, double, double, everything, double, double,
double." double."
We don’t know what that We don’t know what that
means. means.
We look at it and say, We look at it and say,
"Yeah, yeah, yeah. "Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Give it to me here." Give it to me here."
(heavy sigh) All of you (heavy sigh) All of you
who have had cancer, who have had cancer,
suffered so much, oh, suffered so much, oh,
you can’t believe the you can’t believe the
beauty in Heaven. beauty in Heaven.
You can’t believe the You can’t believe the
feeling of being totally feeling of being totally
loved and seeing that you’re loved and seeing that you’re
loved by God and everybody loved by God and everybody
around you. around you.
Those of you that are Those of you that are
lonely, when you get there, lonely, when you get there,
everybody will come everybody will come
running up to you and say, running up to you and say,
"Oh welcome!" "Oh welcome!"
And one or two may say, And one or two may say,
"I’ve been waiting for you," "I’ve been waiting for you,"
and you’ll say, "Really? and you’ll say, "Really?
Who are you?" Who are you?"
"I was praying for poor "I was praying for poor
sinners and there you were." sinners and there you were."
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
That’s what’s going to happen. That’s what’s going to happen.
I’m not making it up. I’m not making it up.
And then for the first time, And then for the first time,
you’ll see your guardian you’ll see your guardian
angel. angel.
If we could see our guardian If we could see our guardian
angel, we wouldn’t move. angel, we wouldn’t move.
We’d just sit there and We’d just sit there and
look at him. look at him.
That’s what we’d do. That’s what we’d do.
Why? Why?
Because he’s there, Because he’s there,
that’s why! that’s why!
He’s there! He’s there!
Oh. Oh.
Could you imagine the first Could you imagine the first
hour you’re dead? hour you’re dead?
Everybody is rummaging Everybody is rummaging
through your drawers through your drawers
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
and your, all of your and your, all of your
hidden places in your hidden places in your
closets and they’re going closets and they’re going
through everything, over through everything, over
this trash you left. this trash you left.
But up there you’re going But up there you’re going
to look down and say, "Oh! to look down and say, "Oh!
Pshew!" Pshew!"
You may have a garment on You may have a garment on
that has the same jewels. that has the same jewels.
On earth you may have sold On earth you may have sold
your body for a diamond. your body for a diamond.
Think about it. Think about it.
But if you lost that soul But if you lost that soul
for that diamond, you’d for that diamond, you’d
never see anything beautiful never see anything beautiful
again. again.
But if you were But if you were
virtuous and pure, your virtuous and pure, your
whole garment would be made whole garment would be made
out of the most precious out of the most precious
jewels and jewels you never jewels and jewels you never
saw in your life down here. saw in your life down here.
(heavy sigh) Heaven! (heavy sigh) Heaven!
Heaven! Heaven!
And I think when the Lord And I think when the Lord
gets done with all of us, gets done with all of us,
the earth will be like the earth will be like
Heaven. Heaven.
Can you imagine when Our Can you imagine when Our
Lady ties up that demon in Lady ties up that demon in
Hell and you won’t have Hell and you won’t have
anymore temptations, you anymore temptations, you
won’t have anymore bad won’t have anymore bad
thought, you won’t have thought, you won’t have
anymore angry thoughts, you anymore angry thoughts, you
won’t have anymore jealousy won’t have anymore jealousy
or greed--you won’t have or greed--you won’t have
any of that. any of that.
You may not have many things, You may not have many things,
but who needs them, really? Happiness comes from here. Happiness comes from here.
Well, we have some phone Well, we have some phone
calls coming. calls coming.
We have a call. We have a call.
Hello? Hello?
Female Caller #1: Hello. Female Caller #1: Hello.
Mother? Mother?
Mother Angelica: Yeah, where Mother Angelica: Yeah, where
are you from? are you from?
Female Caller #1: From Female Caller #1: From
Michigan. Michigan.
Mother Angelica: Wonderful. Mother Angelica: Wonderful.
Female Caller #1: First, I Female Caller #1: First, I
have to say this is great to have to say this is great to
talk to you. talk to you.
I think you’re wonderful. I think you’re wonderful.
Mother: (chuckles) Thank you. Mother: (chuckles) Thank you.
Female Caller #1: And I Female Caller #1: And I
would like to know what would like to know what
Limbo is and what purpose it Limbo is and what purpose it
serves? serves?
Mother Angelica: Well, I Mother Angelica: Well, I
guess it’s a place we put guess it’s a place we put
everybody that wasn’t everybody that wasn’t
baptized. baptized.
And the reason they do that And the reason they do that
is because the Lord said, is because the Lord said,
"Unless you are baptized "Unless you are baptized
with the Spirit and water with the Spirit and water
you cannot enter the you cannot enter the
Kingdom." Kingdom."
In other words, you cannot In other words, you cannot
get to Heaven unless the get to Heaven unless the
Divine Indwelling is within Divine Indwelling is within
you--that’s Father, Son and you--that’s Father, Son and
Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit.
That’s Baptism. That’s Baptism.
So in view of what Our Lord So in view of what Our Lord
said, the Church never did said, the Church never did
quite know what to do. quite know what to do.
Children, I think all Children, I think all
aborted children are aborted children are
baptized in their own blood. baptized in their own blood.
They’re baptized. They’re baptized.
Of all the people in the Of all the people in the
world, they’re baptized. world, they’re baptized.
They die unjustly but They die unjustly but
they’re baptized. they’re baptized.
I’d make a bet. I’d make a bet.
But there are that element But there are that element
of people--maybe good of people--maybe good
people, I’m sure--people people, I’m sure--people
who lived good lives, or who lived good lives, or
died young, died before they died young, died before they
even knew the name of God, even knew the name of God,
and so we kind of put them and so we kind of put them
in Limbo. in Limbo.
But I got--’cause I But I got--’cause I
never know, I never knew, never know, I never knew,
nobody ever explained nobody ever explained
Limbo to me. Limbo to me.
What do you explain? What do you explain?
Here’s Heaven. Here’s Heaven.
You’ve got to be baptized to You’ve got to be baptized to
get into Heaven or have the get into Heaven or have the
"Baptism of Desire." "Baptism of Desire."
See, for example, if a See, for example, if a
person is on his way being person is on his way being
baptized, he’s killed in an baptized, he’s killed in an
automobile accident, the automobile accident, the
Church considers that Church considers that
Baptism because he’s, he was Baptism because he’s, he was
on his way to be baptized. It’s call the "Baptism of It’s call the "Baptism of
Desire." Desire."
Martyrs, a lot of the Martyrs, a lot of the
martyrs, the first 100, 200, martyrs, the first 100, 200,
300 years, perhaps they were 300 years, perhaps they were
on their way to be baptized on their way to be baptized
and they martyred for Jesus. and they martyred for Jesus.
But Limbo is always there But Limbo is always there
and I don’t know about you and I don’t know about you
and you know, it’s not a and you know, it’s not a
doctrine of the Church but doctrine of the Church but
I found great comfort in I found great comfort in
reading that because Dominic reading that because Dominic
Savio said to Don Bosco, Savio said to Don Bosco,
"This is a place of earth." "This is a place of earth."
I’d sure like to find that I’d sure like to find that
one for a few minutes. one for a few minutes.
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
Knowing me as I do, I’d Knowing me as I do, I’d
probably snitch a few leaves. probably snitch a few leaves.
(all chuckle) (all chuckle)
That’s why the Lord don’t That’s why the Lord don’t
show it to me. show it to me.
(group laughs) (group laughs)
He’ll say, "We can’t trust He’ll say, "We can’t trust
her in this garden. her in this garden.
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
"She’ll take all the "She’ll take all the
jewels and put them on jewels and put them on
the Blessed Sacrament." the Blessed Sacrament."
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
Anyway, I think, honey, Anyway, I think, honey,
that that, to me it gives that that, to me it gives
me a place to look at. me a place to look at.
It may not be there at all-- It may not be there at all--
I don’t know. I don’t know.
I’m not making a I’m not making a
Church statement. Church statement.
But that little place that But that little place that
Dominic, Don Bosco was, Dominic, Don Bosco was,
it just seemed to me it it just seemed to me it
had a human element to it. had a human element to it.
There were trees and leaves, There were trees and leaves,
nothing like ours here, nothing like ours here,
nothing. nothing.
I don’t know what I’d do I don’t know what I’d do
if I found a solid crystal if I found a solid crystal
garden or something and all garden or something and all
of the flowers had jewels. of the flowers had jewels.
Now imagine what Heaven Now imagine what Heaven
must be like. must be like.
And you know what makes me And you know what makes me
wonder about Heaven and wonder about Heaven and
just can’t even imagine. just can’t even imagine.
St. Paul said, "Eye has not St. Paul said, "Eye has not
seen, nor ear heard what seen, nor ear heard what
it’s like up there." it’s like up there."
Please, don’t throw it Please, don’t throw it
away. away.
Don’t throw it away. Don’t throw it away.
There’s nothing but misery There’s nothing but misery
if you do, nothing but if you do, nothing but
misery forever. misery forever.
Think about it. Think about it.
But I think that’s what But I think that’s what
Limbo, honey, a beautiful Limbo, honey, a beautiful
place of total, total place of total, total
happiness. happiness.
The difference is they The difference is they
will never see God. will never see God.
They will know God. They will know God.
They will praise God. They will praise God.
They will sing songs to Him They will sing songs to Him
and they will enjoy the and they will enjoy the
fruits of where they are. fruits of where they are.
But only in Heaven can you But only in Heaven can you
see Him face-to-face, see Him face-to-face,
forever. forever.
We have another call. We have another call.
Hello? Hello?
Male Caller #1: Yes. Male Caller #1: Yes.
Thank you, Mother, for Thank you, Mother, for
taking my call. I wanted to ask, does God I wanted to ask, does God
still communicate to people still communicate to people
through dreams? through dreams?
Mother Angelica: Well, Mother Angelica: Well,
He can. He can.
I don’t know if He does. I don’t know if He does.
He appeared to Joseph a He appeared to Joseph a
couple of times in a dream. couple of times in a dream.
Who else? Who else?
Ah, Francis Xavier Cabrini, Ah, Francis Xavier Cabrini,
right, yeah, she used to right, yeah, she used to
dream. dream.
But, you know, I think these But, you know, I think these
people are just humble. people are just humble.
You know, they saw You know, they saw
something, they felt something, they felt
something. something.
I know one of Don Bosco’s I know one of Don Bosco’s
boys died, and he said to boys died, and he said to
him before he died, "Show me him before he died, "Show me
whether or not, you know, whether or not, you know,
tell me whether you went to tell me whether you went to
Heaven." Heaven."
So it was the night of So it was the night of
the funeral and all the men, the funeral and all the men,
the boys were in this great the boys were in this great
big room and all of a sudden big room and all of a sudden
it was like a hurricane--or it was like a hurricane--or
not a hurricane, a tornado not a hurricane, a tornado
inside the room and the inside the room and the
chandelier was going... chandelier was going...
(makes noise) (makes noise)
They said, "He went to They said, "He went to
Heaven." Heaven."
I thought, "Boy, if you’re I thought, "Boy, if you’re
coming to me, don’t show me coming to me, don’t show me
that way." that way."
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
God can communicate with God can communicate with
people in a million ways. people in a million ways.
He can use your angel, He He can use your angel, He
can, it could be Our Lady, can, it could be Our Lady,
Mother Cabrini, Don Bosco Mother Cabrini, Don Bosco
took on dreams. took on dreams.
You see, I do have a little You see, I do have a little
hard time with the dream hard time with the dream
part because there was a part because there was a
piece of land--and I’m not piece of land--and I’m not
too sure, somewhere in New too sure, somewhere in New
York, New York on an island York, New York on an island
or something--that nobody or something--that nobody
wanted ’cause there was wanted ’cause there was
no water. no water.
Well, in one of these "dreams," Well, in one of these "dreams,"
St. Francis Cabrini saw St. Francis Cabrini saw
exactly where the water was, exactly where the water was,
and so she went and and so she went and
bought it. bought it.
And the Jesuits said to And the Jesuits said to
her, "Don’t buy it. her, "Don’t buy it.
"It’s no good. "It’s no good.
There’s no water." There’s no water."
"That’s all right, I’ll use it." I’ll use it."
(laughs) As soon as she (laughs) As soon as she
bought it she went right to bought it she went right to
that spot and dug and the that spot and dug and the
water just went, water just went,
(makes noise,) (makes noise,)
and they were mad. and they were mad.
"It’s not fair," they said, "It’s not fair," they said,
God told you where it was." God told you where it was."
(all laugh) (all laugh)
And He did, too. And He did, too.
So I would say yes. So I would say yes.
I would say, if you have I would say, if you have
a dream and Our Lord speaks a dream and Our Lord speaks
to you, watch the fruit. to you, watch the fruit.
Be careful, watch the fruit. Be careful, watch the fruit.
If what He says comes true, If what He says comes true,
then it was good. then it was good.
Like the man, you know, Like the man, you know,
during the Charismatic during the Charismatic
Movement, this man went to Movement, this man went to
this other man who just this other man who just
bought a big boat. bought a big boat.
He rapped on the door--this He rapped on the door--this
really happened. really happened.
He rapped on the door and he He rapped on the door and he
said, "The Lord told me this said, "The Lord told me this
morning that you’re supposed morning that you’re supposed
to give me your boat." to give me your boat."
"Oh, yeah?" "Oh, yeah?"
"Yeah." "Yeah."
"Well, when the Lord tells "Well, when the Lord tells
me I should give you my me I should give you my
boat..." boat..."
(group laughs) (group laughs)
We have another call. Hello! Hello!
Female Caller #2: Hello. Female Caller #2: Hello.
Mother Angelica: Hi. Mother Angelica: Hi.
Hi. Hi.
Female Caller #2: I want to Female Caller #2: I want to
tell you how wonderful you tell you how wonderful you
are. are.
Mother Angelica: Oh, thank Mother Angelica: Oh, thank
you. you.
Female Caller #2: Mother, Female Caller #2: Mother,
I’ve had dreams about Jesus I’ve had dreams about Jesus
and talking with Him and and talking with Him and
I’ve been wondering if I’ve been wondering if
you’ve been giving some kind you’ve been giving some kind
of signal. of signal.
All my life I’ve had trouble All my life I’ve had trouble
finding a way, to find a finding a way, to find a
different direction of going different direction of going
as far as a career. as far as a career.
But I have no idea which But I have no idea which
direction I’m suppose to go direction I’m suppose to go
and I think He’s trying to and I think He’s trying to
tell me a direction to go. tell me a direction to go.
Can you tell me if that’s Can you tell me if that’s
true? true?
Could that be possible? Could that be possible?
Mother Angelica: Well, Mother Angelica: Well,
whenever Our Lord gives us whenever Our Lord gives us
anything, it’s always for anything, it’s always for
our growing in holiness. our growing in holiness.
It doesn’t always mean He It doesn’t always mean He
has a mission. has a mission.
Our mission--we all have a Our mission--we all have a
mission--our mission in mission--our mission in
life, everyone born, life, everyone born,
everyone created, their everyone created, their
mission in life is to mission in life is to
become holy. become holy.
And sometimes Our Dear Lord And sometimes Our Dear Lord
will give people dreams or will give people dreams or
appear to them or we call, appear to them or we call,
or talk to them--we call or talk to them--we call
that locutions--just to that locutions--just to
give you courage to go on, give you courage to go on,
see. see.
If He has a special plan for If He has a special plan for
you, He’ll let you know. you, He’ll let you know.
Don’t worry about that. Don’t worry about that.
But these kinds of things. But these kinds of things.
Let me tell you about Let me tell you about
my mother. my mother.
One time, my mother was One time, my mother was
always sick--she was always sick--she was
13 years in a wheelchair. 13 years in a wheelchair.
And she was worried and And she was worried and
frustrated and she used to frustrated and she used to
cry a lot, and sometimes from cry a lot, and sometimes from
pain, and sometimes from what pain, and sometimes from what
reason really nobody ever reason really nobody ever
found out. found out.
But one night she was in bed But one night she was in bed
and she told me the next and she told me the next
morning--she was all morning--she was all
excited. excited.
She said the entire wall She said the entire wall
disappeared and all of a disappeared and all of a
sudden she saw three people sudden she saw three people
standing there. One of them had a green veil One of them had a green veil
over his face, the other one over his face, the other one
was Jesus and the third one was Jesus and the third one
she said, looked like Jesus she said, looked like Jesus
exactly, but He didn’t have exactly, but He didn’t have
a beard. a beard.
Wow! Wow!
I thought it was the I thought it was the
Trinity, the Father, cause no Trinity, the Father, cause no
one can look at the Father one can look at the Father
and live in a human life. and live in a human life.
You have to be in Heaven You have to be in Heaven
to see God face-to-face. to see God face-to-face.
She recognized Jesus. She recognized Jesus.
And you say, "Well, a spirit And you say, "Well, a spirit
doesn’t have a beard because doesn’t have a beard because
he’s a spirit." he’s a spirit."
Oh I know that. Oh I know that.
For goodness sakes, For goodness sakes,
we’re not stupid! we’re not stupid!
Everybody knows that. Everybody knows that.
But we have eyes and ears But we have eyes and ears
and we have to use these and we have to use these
eyes and ears. eyes and ears.
We’re human. We’re human.
God treats us like God treats us like
human beings. human beings.
He respects the dignity He respects the dignity
He gave us. He gave us.
And so I knew, I knew who And so I knew, I knew who
she saw. she saw.
Now, what was that all Now, what was that all
about? about?
Did she have a mission? Did she have a mission?
I think she did. I think she did.
Her mission was suffering. Her mission was suffering.
Her mission was to suffer. Her mission was to suffer.
We can’t say why--maybe We can’t say why--maybe
just to be like Jesus. just to be like Jesus.
But we all have a mission, But we all have a mission,
all of us. all of us.
"Well, I don’t know any "Well, I don’t know any
mission." mission."
Well, the fact you’re Well, the fact you’re
alive, that’s a mission, the alive, that’s a mission, the
fact that you can pray for fact that you can pray for
people. people.
(heavy sigh) (heavy sigh)
I just wish I could share I just wish I could share
some things with you but some things with you but
I can’t, or I won’t, I can’t, or I won’t,
but please pray. but please pray.
Pray for priests. Pray for priests.
Pray for religious. Pray for religious.
Pray for poor sinners, Pray for poor sinners,
poor sinners, that they, poor sinners, that they,
that they get their wits that they get their wits
together. together.
I think we have time for I think we have time for
another call. Hello. Hello.
We don’t? We don’t?
It says, "Caller ready." It says, "Caller ready."
No. No.
Oh well, whatever. Oh well, whatever.
(heavy sigh) I love you, (heavy sigh) I love you,
all of you and I want you all of you and I want you
all to go to Heaven. all to go to Heaven.
I want us all, all of us I want us all, all of us
in the whole wide world to in the whole wide world to
enjoy that awesomeness of enjoy that awesomeness of
Heaven and the Father and Heaven and the Father and
Jesus. Jesus.
Can you imagine yourself Can you imagine yourself
when you’re there looking at when you’re there looking at
Our Lady face-to-face and Our Lady face-to-face and
talking to Her as much as talking to Her as much as
you want to for the first you want to for the first
time? time?
(chuckles) There’s so much (chuckles) There’s so much
up there, so much that God up there, so much that God
wants us to give us wants us to give us
generously, generously, generously, generously,
so much. so much.
And since we don’t want it, And since we don’t want it,
so many don’t want it, so many don’t want it,
He’s going to purify us. He’s going to purify us.
I think He is. I think He is.
It may not be a big star It may not be a big star
fall in your back yard. fall in your back yard.
(heavy sigh) (heavy sigh)
California’s a good example. California’s a good example.
It must be hard not to It must be hard not to
have electricity. have electricity.
We can’t get out of bed We can’t get out of bed
without putting a light on. without putting a light on.
You can’t do a thing without You can’t do a thing without
electricity. electricity.
Oh, is that a god? Oh, is that a god?
We don’t know. We don’t know.
It certainly is a It certainly is a
dependence. dependence.
We do it automatic. We do it automatic.
You go in a room, You go in a room,
(makes noise) (makes noise)
You go in a room where You go in a room where
there’s daylight, there’s daylight,
(makes noise) (makes noise)
You can’t iron, you can’t You can’t iron, you can’t
wash, you can’t make toast, wash, you can’t make toast,
you can’t get out of bed. you can’t get out of bed.
You get in bed, turn the You get in bed, turn the
light off. I use oxygen all night and I use oxygen all night and
I had the machine running. I had the machine running.
And I got in bed and I And I got in bed and I
thought, "Gee, it’s thought, "Gee, it’s
comfortable." comfortable."
And then I thought, And then I thought,
"Yeah, you don’t have "Yeah, you don’t have
your oxygen on." your oxygen on."
Well, before I could get Well, before I could get
out of bed I had to put out of bed I had to put
the light on. the light on.
So I put the light on, So I put the light on,
I put the oxygen on my side, I put the oxygen on my side,
I went to be, the light I went to be, the light
was on. was on.
I had to get up I had to get up
(group chuckles) (group chuckles)
and turn the light off. and turn the light off.
That’s how dependent we are, That’s how dependent we are,
you know. you know.
We can’t even make a fire. We can’t even make a fire.
You don’t know how to You don’t know how to
make a fire. make a fire.
You know how to make a fire? You know how to make a fire?
Well, you get a match, Well, you get a match,
(laughs,) but then you only (laughs,) but then you only
have a fire. have a fire.
You don’t have much light. You don’t have much light.
See how dependent we are. See how dependent we are.
Well, maybe, I don’t know. Well, maybe, I don’t know.
(heavy sigh) I only know one (heavy sigh) I only know one
thing, God loves us. thing, God loves us.
He’s going to do everything He’s going to do everything
in His power to see that you in His power to see that you
and I get to Heaven. and I get to Heaven.
Ah, that’s what you want, Ah, that’s what you want,
hah? hah?
You want to know the book. You want to know the book.
Boy, am I going to get in Boy, am I going to get in
trouble tomorrow with the Catalogue department. Catalogue department.
It’s called<u> <i> 40 Dreams of</i></u> It’s called<u> <i> 40 Dreams of
St. John Bosco</i></u> , 40 Dreams. <i><u>St. John Bosco</u></i> , 40 Dreams.
They’re all dreams. They’re all dreams.
Well, I think they’re Well, I think they’re
visions but nobody asked visions but nobody asked
my opinion. my opinion.
Oh, they’re wonderful. Oh, they’re wonderful.<i>
How Two Boys Were Attacked by</i> <i>How Two Boys Were Attacked by
a Monster and a Partridge</i> <i>a Monster and a Partridge
and a Quail.</i> <i>and a Quail.</i>
I don’t know what that is. I don’t know what that is.<i>
A Precious Handkerchief for</i> <i>A Precious Handkerchief for
Purity.</i> Oh there are just all kinds. Oh there are just all kinds.
There are 40 of them here There are 40 of them here
and you know, the Lord sent and you know, the Lord sent
an angel who was in the an angel who was in the
form on a dog, a big dog. form on a dog, a big dog.
And one night Don Bosco And one night Don Bosco
wanted to leave and go wanted to leave and go
somewhere and that dog somewhere and that dog
stood in front of the door. stood in front of the door.
He wouldn’t let him go. He wouldn’t let him go.
He would appear every time He would appear every time
his life was in danger. his life was in danger.
Go, buy some books on Go, buy some books on
the saints. the saints.
Read about Heaven. Read about Heaven.
Read about these holy men Read about these holy men
and women. and women.
I can tell you, the news is, I can tell you, the news is,
I guess it’s okay but that I guess it’s okay but that
won’t get you to Heaven. won’t get you to Heaven.
I would look and see where I would look and see where
you’re going--it’s what you’re going--it’s what
I’d do. I’d do.
You can’t get in the car You can’t get in the car
and start to move. and start to move.
You got to say, "Where are You got to say, "Where are
you going?" you going?"
I don’t know. I don’t know.
Well, you’re going to go Well, you’re going to go
around in a circle. around in a circle.
Okay, try that. Okay, try that.
We are all destined to We are all destined to
go to Heaven. go to Heaven.
If you don’t keep the If you don’t keep the
Commandments, you’re doing Commandments, you’re doing
everything that’s terrible, everything that’s terrible,
impure, lying, cheating, impure, lying, cheating,
deceiving--if you live deceiving--if you live
your whole life that way, your whole life that way,
you got a chance. you got a chance.
But for goodness sake, go to But for goodness sake, go to
Confession because when He Confession because when He
comes it may be very sudden comes it may be very sudden
and then what? and then what?
Well, time is really short, Well, time is really short,
isn’t it? isn’t it?
We’re about finished. We’re about finished.
We’ve got about 10 seconds, We’ve got about 10 seconds,
5 seconds. 5 seconds.
Those fingers are going to Those fingers are going to
start going down, 1, 2, 3. start going down, 1, 2, 3.
I love you and God loves I love you and God loves
you infinitely. you infinitely.
Do all you can to live Do all you can to live
with Him eternally. with Him eternally.
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