The story was, er,
it was just, you know, came out of me thinking back on my
own personal experiences. For whatever reason, my mind shot
back to me as a drummer with a very terrifying teacher and how I felt every day in
band rehearsal. It was probably because I still,
to this day, have monthly nightmares about it. So it's just, you know, a memory that's always been very
present in my mind. And it just occurred to me,
a few years ago, that maybe
it could actually make a movie. <font color="#00FFFF"> I'm sorry, I'm sorry. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> What's your name? </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> Andrew Neiman, sir. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> You know who I am? </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> Yes, sir. </font><font color="#FFFF00">
Then why did you stop playing? </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> Meeting Damien in person
and really getting to... </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> to have a talk about the central
themes of the film, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> and how he wanted to,
er, affect an audience. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> He was impeccably prepared, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> but also able to think on his feet
and collaborate </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> and it was just the ideal
shooting environment. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> I really didn't know what
my expectations were for Damien. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> You know,
my first kind of introduction to him</font> <font color="#00FFFF"> as a director was really, you know,
the first day on set. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> And I just remember him
being extremely efficient in how... </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> in how he was shooting the scenes. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> You know, we'd shoot from one
angle for, like, two min... </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> or for two takes, and then
he would say, "OK, moving on." </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> Then we'd go to another angle, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> and I remember thinking at the
time, like, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> either this guy's, like, really good
and did all of this prep, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> and knows exactly what he wants, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> or we're not getting
enough, you know, kind of coverage. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> There's a lot of scenes
that is just purely on me. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> You don't see JK,
or the other way around. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> And...and so, yeah, I... </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> I just... I was blown away by what
Damien did with the film. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> You're here for a reason.
You believe that, right? </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> I'm here for a reason. </font> It started with the emotion
then, from there, it becomes about
how you capture that. And so we shot it
kind of like a thriller, and sort of
it was even plotted as a thriller, and it was very much sort of
done in the style of certain '70s, kind of paranoid kind of movies, that
I just personally love and adore. Erm... But all in the interest of
kind of really mapping that sort of anxiety in a very subjective
way onto the screen. <font color="#00FFFF"> I want to be great. </font> <font color="#00FF00"> And you're not. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> I want to be one of the greats. </font> <font color="#00FF00"> And I would stop you from
doing that? </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> Yeah. </font> <font color="#00FF00"> You're right,
we should NOT be dating. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> I was just really drawn to his drive
and his ambition, and his... </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> his determination to become,
you know, one of the greats, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> and I don't think there's anything,
you know, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> wrong with kind of wanting to make
a stamp, you know, on this Earth, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> and to really kind of put
your fingerprints all over something</font> <font color="#00FFFF"> and have people, as he talks
about it, talk about you, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> kind of long after you're gone. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> Working with Miles, you know, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> we quickly developed a rapport </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> and a rhythm of working together </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> and he's such a good listener,
which is not... </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> something you always find in
especially a young actor, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> and, you know, I mean, the final
product of the film is... </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> 95%, you know,
exactly as Damien wrote it. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> That 5% that we ended up having
the freedom to kind of </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> create on our own was...was a
really joyous part of the process. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> Little trouble, there. </font> Some of the pieces of music
in the movie were pieces
I played myself as a drummer. Whiplash, Caravan, so...those were
kind of starting points in a way. So I, I... I knew what it would
sound like in those cases, and I kind of knew what
it would look like, or what I wanted it to look like... <font color="#FFFF00"> Pick it up! </font> ..that it would be this movie
that was very up close and personal, even uncomfortably so. That we'd see the blood, the sweat,
the tears, literally, you know? It's the closest that
instruments get to sports. And, er, and I did want this movie to kind of flirt with
the ideas of physical violence and the sort of physical toll in the way that boxing
movies or dance movies do. And so drumming within
the big band jazz world is
the closest you get to that. <font color="#00FFFF"> Damien and I kind of worked on,
you know, we talked about, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> there's...there's...you know, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> the way they have their shoulders,
there is kind of like a slant, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> and just kind of the way they sit,
you know, over the drum kit, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> cos every...every style of music is
kind of defined by... </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> you know, the drummer can be
defined by that era, you know? </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> If I was playing an '80s
kind of hair rock guy, you know, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> it's more theatrical
and this and that, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> and then if you got the grunge,
it's kind of the, you know, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> the headbanging,
and then, you know, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> but with jazz, it's,
you know, it's a certain posture </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> and a certain way
they kind of sit over the kit, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> that was something I really
got into because it was the most, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> you know, the most
physical, you know, training </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> that I had to do
for any character that I've done. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> Most of the shots in the film,
we were playing live, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> Miles and everybody else
in the band, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> but they also were just
so wonderfully spontaneous, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> and so much of the film... </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> of my character in the film lives
in other people's responses to him. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> It felt to me like this was a guy
who, you know, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> thrives on intimidation and using
sort of physicality </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> and these guys are, you know,
real musicians, who trained with, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> you know, some pretty serious guys, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> so I think some of them didn't have
to work too hard </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> at being intimidated by their
conductor, because, you know... </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> it's a tough world and
there are a lot of guys out there </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> that are not unlike
Terence Fletcher. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> His lack of regard for...
for anything outside of, you know, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> creating great jazz. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> His single-minded focus
and his, er, his, er... </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> He completely just doesn't
care about what collateral damage
there may be, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> and that, you know, I mean, that's
the central debate of the film, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> really, is, you know, what cost is
too great? </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> Ah. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> Ready? OK. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> Five, six, and... </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> Were you rushing
or were you dragging? </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> I...I don't know. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> If you deliberately sabotage
MY band, I will gut you like a pig. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> Oh, my dear God. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> Are you one of those
single tear people? </font> In a weird way, this movie's a love
story between, you know, these two people, and it's a very
twisted, sick love story, but it is...kind of it does
operate in that way, in a sense. In the sense that it...it hinges
on their relationship, and, um, and the ups
and downs of that relationship. And so, you know... you had to have a duo that you wanted
to watch and you wanted to see together and the movie had to hum
when they were together. So it was important to me
that the movie keep pushing
the envelope a bit, in that...in that way, and that as the movie progresses,
it gets increasingly... crazier and crazier as our character
gets crazier and crazier. <font color="#FFFF00"> Most of the guys in the band really
didn't know what was coming, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> cos most of them never
really read a script. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> They were just there cos
they could play. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> And with Miles, he's just, you know,</font> <font color="#FFFF00"> such a good combination of,
you know, a trained actor, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> but a guy who, er,
you know, who lives in the moment, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> and can be very spontaneous,
both in terms of what he's giving, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> and how he's responding,
so that was, you know, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> that was a big part of what was fun
on set, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> was just Miles and I sort of
throwing the ball back and forth. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> Even though I was throwing it
directly into his face, </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> as hard as I possibly could. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> You're done. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> I guess that's where the
acting comes in, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> because in real life, you know, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> JK and I were joking around and
we're talking about, like, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> baseball, and he's telling
these stories </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> from Broadway and stuff. And then
as soon as action happens, boom. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> Then you're this more
impressionable person, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> you're this kid,
a little more vulnerable. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> You're this person who's very much
intimidated by this figure, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> but when you get a script like this
that's so kind of complete, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> there's no really gaps in it. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> You know, for me, anyway.
Like, I've... </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> It's very clear what my character
wants, what his character wants, </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> and so from there you just
kind of let it fly on the day. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> All set? </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> One, two, mm, and... </font> FAST JAZZ BEAT <font color="#FFFF00"> Not quite my tempo. Connelly? </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> OK. Yeah, I'll take it... </font><font color="#FFFF00">Connelly? </font><font color="#00FFFF">
..right from the top. </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> I can do... </font><font color="#FFFF00">No. We'll go with
Connelly now. </font> <font color="#00FF00"> Hey, do you mind? </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> OK, man. Ready? </font><font color="#00FF00">Mm-hm. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> One and two and... </font> ARRHYTHMIC BEAT <font color="#FFFF00"> Perfect, Connelly. </font><font color="#00FFFF">(Oh, my God.) </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> See, this to me
is the beauty of studio band. </font> <font color="#FFFF00"> You walk in here an alternate,
who knows when you could be
the new core? </font> <font color="#00FFFF"> Oh, my God, are you serious? </font> I was definitely thinking about a lot
of musical films, West Side Story, things like that,
but also even silent films, you know, ironically. That sense of rhythm through
film-making, that sense of pure cinema, erm... Those moments of pure cinema
I really, really kind of love, where it just becomes
about juxtaposing image and sound and seeing what can result. I guess it's those moments where,
to me, cinema gets close to music, where really the closest art form,
er, to it is...is music, and so it made sense to me that that's where we wanted to
aspire with a lot of this film. <font color="#FFFF00"> Try practising harder, Neiman. </font> Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd