Miles Davis interview with Carlos Santana

the very first my band had just played Woodstock so we were really big we were a big like u2 or somebody like that and so Bill Graham said who would you like to open up for you or to work with you know I said Miles Davis okay I'll call him you know and and Miles Davis and Bill Graham were supremely important in my life because Miles Davis taught me about music and Bill Graham taught me about business you know and it was funny to see them both together because they were always uh it was an experience as he bought them together yeah they both was sharp their machetes with each other you know but it was a tangled wood he drove in on a yellow Lamborghini or Ferrari one of those yes oh he came in late yes no with us he didn't he came in late at the Fillmore cos he didn't want to open up for Steve Miller but for some reason he respected you enough today it was the voice of East Harlem Miles Davis entangled with Anna and Santana I have this video it's a superb quality hopefully one of these days we'll see it miles sounds so strong because he was still boxing in his notes you know it's like Jimi Hendrix is very dynamic very powerful you know full of fire and passion that's the first time that I met him you know then he came to the rest of the cars as we play at the Fillmore East three nights in a row and he was there three nights in a row and I remember telling him my house Jack Johnson it's incredible that he goes ain't it though I said yeah it is that you know and that's the album that I believe scared Jimi Hendrix because my austerity meanders I'm gonna put one of the baddest track of all bands you know and so I was Billy Cobham and John McLaughlin Herbie Hancock and yeah like that you know Steve Grossman oh yes expect an admiration for him I mean I always knew that my favorite were for Miles Davis is that it Miles Davis it's a supreme divine rascal you know I and I know that God loves Rascals because he's he's the only one that could get away with what he got away with in New York or anywhere in the world he could say and do and be he was a rascal you know and he played by his own rules not by anybody's rules he was always very kind to me he was he I know he scratched a lot of people in interviews and especially on his biography in his book he was always very kind to me and and I'll always stress you that I know when I get to heaven he'd be the first first person I want to look up well I have a lot the ones the ones that treasure the most are an 81 when he came back and he found out that I wasn't I was in the building in Avery Fisher Hall and when he saw me I came in and and in front of all kinds of people he came right at me this close and he put his hands like this behind my neck and he hung his feet off the ground he was hanging on he's just looking at me like this and I was like hi miles and he did this again and his 60th birthday Cicely Tyson and invited my wife and I as long as with a lot of people over there at Quincy Jones and everybody was there in my house came in two hours late and he did the same thing you know it was I was in a boat and he did the same thing he picked me out out of everybody and he came straight at me and he put his face like this again and he did the same thing he went like that behind my neck and he just hung I mean his feet off the ground and I'm high my house you know and I I treasured that because I I don't know why he did that to this day you know there was Howard you know Howard Johnson Josiah I mean everybody was there you know and and I treasured that my favorite funny story it's not the one that John Lee Hooker told me jelly who could call my house and you said I could Carlos he says you know my house I said yes I know my office he says I did a novel with him I recorded with him but he wouldn't talk to nobody except me he says and the only thing he said to me was he said Charlie you're the man alive you sound like they bear you after your neck and mud and then you went you know and I said well child that's a compliment you know from my CD I could good I guess so he goes I think that but I I treasure everything all the nights I spent listening to his music the first time I met him in the times that he called me on the phone you know and I to me is a supreme angel in this century that is music is I mean who else played with Charlie Parker and Coltrane you know who I was motivated Wayne and Tony and Herbie and people like that to be at their best you know I don't know any other motivator who can make you rise up and play like you didn't know you could play you know that's that's an incredible gift to make a diamond out of charcoal you know I had to say how to concise instead of playing a million notes you know you can economy you get precise and concise you know I think we all learned that from him how you know just get to it and get to the heart of it and move on yeah yes yeah so he does guys did very well but he wasn't he was a shy person but you wouldn't know it by because he would make a lot of jokes I also went to see him in a club in New York and Richard Pryor opened up for him and miles was funnier than Richard Pryor you know I mean his sense of humor me either as Jesus died laughing you know it's that and it comes out in his music you know it I always felt that somebody who could play that beautiful couldn't that be as nasty as yes he want us to believe that he was or as or as cruel or his heart you know and I never knew that sight people say those things but I never saw that you know he never she never brought her around me you know so I only know one side of the diamond you know one facet of the diamond and and I always treasured that side of the diamond essential as important is because or Stravinsky or you know now a DaVinci to me it's always it's always nourishment for the Soul like water you know you can have caviar and champagne and coca-cola and beer sooner or later you're gonna drink water and meet miles of music is its food for the Soul you know I I also understand why he cried when Colton left you know because I can understand it you know being so sensitive that he was people told me miles cried when Coltrane said gotta do my own thing that's the only person you know that went another way from miles he came out of this school but he graduated with supreme honors you know and I treasure both them completely I mean they're in fact I listen to trainer I'm listen to my house I listen to my also listen to train there one now I'm not fooled say if they would Wayne you know or Herbie no matter what they play I always hear miles Tony Williams Brian Carter even with it when they do their own albums I always hear and my fingerprints and their music and in our brains he he that he left some very powerful fingerprints which is uniqueness and individuality you know I'm sorry it's fingerprints he taught us all of us you know I thought it was just a Blues player but he he told me you're more than you can do more than black magic woman a man I said okay now you know no because I knew he had that kind of heart I think only ignorant people are like cows that regurgitate and eat the same thing I always knew that my us was a person who had a big heart and he he wanted his finger wanted to be it what's happening now in the polls you know I we love him for that because he was always pushing forward you know I saw the influence of Santana on my house you know after he saw Santana next in unity say a Congress and you know so we also he touches but we also touch him I mean I could say that you know because I could say it's true you know but he he taught us all of us how to do what we want to not what accountants or lawyers or or CBS or Sony or Warner Brothers do what your soul tells you to do then the rules is the feeling the talents you know kind of thing as a springless and to teach anybody you know execute your heart's convictions I nervous when I asked Bill Graham Amnesty International will not be complete unless Miles Davis is there Bill Graham said okay I'll call him so then Bill Graham called me like around three o'clock in the morning San Francisco time and he says I know it's late I'm sorry to wake you up but he said yes who said yes Miles Davis he says he's gonna play up there I'm just the International and I see Bill Graham is the first person who said to Tommy if it was only one record that I could have and I was stuck in an island it will be sketches of Spain yeah so that's how much he adore miles even though miles always like picked on him the first thing miles would say to Bill Graham is hide you boy how you doing Jew boy it's not like me no so I knew they had a special relationship by the way they talked to each other he was more tender with me so I guess he left me off the hook but when we played a mouse was really cranky when I went backstage bill says my house is here he's gonna play you know I didn't bring my band that day I jam with Miller brothers and ruin blades fitted my office and all in one day I told my listen I don't have to jam you know I just wanted you to play here you know because yeah right no no I'm serious man I don't you know I don't care what bill says I to me I'm just happy that you're here and that you're gonna be your music's gonna be presented you know like that okay you know and then he grabbed my pants then he goes get out of my man don't be wearing my you know like cuz I have some really nice pants you know if I okay after we played he was very kind after we play it was a different person he said that Carlos said yeah come here how was it for you could you hear out there says yeah I could hear pretty good man plus I can move around you know yeah me too yeah some of the guys sitting down I feel sorry for them because they you know the monitors were not right but I move around so I make my own sound stuff like that because he knew that America America is not as refined as Europe in America is McDonald's and Madonna you know and unfortunately the mentality in America is which is not really justifiable because I now can call and Natalie Cole had a hit number one in America everywhere so America's is ready for a five-star restaurant you know it's just that unfortunately they keep making cheap food for lazy people McDonald's so miles knew that Adam in Europe people were more refined and they would understand everything about him how he dress how he talks how he things how he feels in his music he always I'm pretty sure that he always thought about his music last you know cuz he I felt that he knew that that was natural to him so people say man you play beautiful so what how do I look you know and I understand that now before I didn't understand it no Miles Davis like Martin Luther King he was for all people now an angel is one that sits for the highest good of all people I never saw Miles Davis come black magazines I saw an interview like this in an in in Baltimore I have this video with this black person ask Miles Davis first question he has Miles Davis mr. Davis did you ever meet Charlie Parker and Myles just lost it he just he said if I was blind and my eyes were blue you know what kind of Dior and I wear but since I'm black just like you you don't know a goddamn thing about me so no mass was not for black people he was for all people you know in fact you never saw miles an M&E magazine in front you saw him in the back when he died I'll never forget those magazines for that you know so no he wasn't for black people he knows a lot he said it's a lot of black people I can't stand you know my house was like water he had no collar if you play some of the blackness just to put certain white people in their place but I know I know from his music and from the way he acted around me that he wasn't black or white he was transparent like a diamond you know like water that's why I love him you know that's why if you know he never true blackness on my face some people did but he never do blackness on my face never neither is Wayne or Herbie or Tony you know there there are persons first a unique person I think people shy and we understood it miles like during our burns thing the first priority is to make the band one band I mean if they're like this it's like that you know miles knew how to play one note there has Earth's time galactic time so lest your time OneNote you know so if people misunderstand my house is because they they they rationalize miles with their mind now with their heart if you if you see miles from your heart he's right on the most important priority is to arouse your band not the people you know once you arouse the band and you and you get the bass play with the drummer to be one heart not ten different heart beats the one heartbeat no flames no just want not what are you totally there's a video where he tells us is nephew Vince was just playing I'm the one my one you know so I understand what my was there dad you know cuz I'm trying to do the same thing myself I'm trying to make six people or eight people be one beat one heartbeat so no is there's no misconception people are just misunderstanding it's because they're not thinking right it's fine who played with Charlie Mingus and our Tatum and Billie Holiday and Leo right people like that he said that his favorite period was like miles with red Garland and Philly Joe Jones and Coltrane my favorite is all of it from beginning to an end I'm very very fortunate that I can I can see miles with prints I can see miles with everybody and adore it I mean literally adore all of it you know I don't some people just get hung up all you know miles and miles neither I feel sorry for them they miss out even musicians who play with him they say this oh you know miles ain't doing now he's just playing this rock'n'roll music I don't see you playing it now you couldn't play it if he wanted to because there's not easy to articulate what he was doing time after time or human nature I mean you always play my favorite things anyway in my fanny Valentine or what's that song from the movie Snow White in the seventh floor if you know someday my prince will come no I am very grateful that I can really say I loved all of it you know I'm not hung up yes some of it could have been left out i but he said you know i never read it he said I haven't read it yet you know in his very very typical of miles you know I don't think he was sent to miles he was into the world anyway you know he was into the spirit in the world I don't I don't I won't see my off looking at himself in the mirror either than just you know I mean I was pretty accurate in a lot of ways and I'm grateful that he was very kind to me and in his autobiography I missed him terribly I send him letters and I found out that he read him and he somebody somebody said that he said David Rosen Herbie Hancock said it my house received your letter could I send him a letter from Osaka Japan and I said wow I said Carlos loves me I said yes right we all love you miles you know in fact what the first time that he came back he came to see me and my band at the Savoy in New York and they left me alone with him before I went onstage and I always meditate and he was I had this medal which is really funny because he kept looking at it and I said you want it he said I'll live you put it on me so I took it off and put her around him you know looking at his eyes and at that time he was still very kind of negative but life you know that kind of and so I weighed always I always wait for him to finish talking you know and then I said miles there's a lot of people like myself in the in the Bay Area San Francisco Oakland you know we just love you and we don't care if you don't want to play anymore we just want you to be happy and healthy so he says something like I can never be happy and I said why I said you're not one of those people that you're not happy unless you're miserable are you and when I said I got really afraid because I said me I'm talking to my house you know two months later I play with a Max Roach and Max Lord said to me he grabbed my hand and he says I want to thank you because miles came to see me the afternoon before he saw you and then I saw him the next morning and he said I don't know what you told him but it's working and so then I had to play my Betamax back why did I say to my house I just said you're not one of those people that you're not happy unless you're miserable are you you have a choice and I was my only contribution to miles of psyche you know which is something my mother would say to me or your mother will say to you you know it wasn't about an ego or anything it's just about you know I love you to be happy and healthy that's thus my best intentions at heart you know you're already given us enough music and I treasured that story you know because it's the only impact that I had at this aunt had on the mountain you know and it was sad since then he called me a lot more he would call me a lot and he called me from the road he called me from his house what'd you tell him I'm just learning he says you will always be learning cuz you got that kind of mine anyway thanks miles well the best thing you can say is that when at the peak of Muhammad Ali and Madison Square Garden everybody stopped when miles came in they ignore Muhammad Ali and ignored your Fraser miles came in and he the way he was dressed out people just started screaming what else can you say you know drugs I know he took some mescaline and some LSD because when I first got into this music it was still very much mouse in the sky and my all smiles in that era but I grew up in San Francisco where Ravi Shankar and Charles Lloyd and John handy experimented with LSD and then all of a sudden you could see Jimi Hendrix and Sly Stone and everybody changing and so that miles change snakeskin shoes boots bandanas and if the music started changing like brew because to Kevin's D not only that Tony Williams was there no more and wasn't Ron Carter or Herbie or Wayne he went after Jack the Jeanette who was playing acid music and Keith Jarrett you know so I know when miles took it because I can hear it in the music you know and the best thing you can say about drugs is that people must know the difference between self-expansion and self-deception also medicine grows from the ground drugs men makes it in a laboratory so there's the big difference I know Mouse was crazy by Bob Marley and you know okay having the kind of mind that he had I know he didn't like to smoke pop too much but he did someone once in a while you could tell him this music you know I could just tell you for what album to what album there's there's the corner you turn the corner in there why because he was hanging around Jimmy Jimmy is girls Devin Carla let Monica and they all hang around Betty Davis okay so that's where it is I mean it sooner or later they say well you know cuz Myles was fascinated with Jimi Hendrix and he want no Hawking his mother if I could play like this even though it's just the Blues where are you consciousness expansion you know LSD mescaline will make you see yourself different in the mirror and I can hear it in his music and I'm happy he did because his music became CinemaScope instead of like this I became like that you know I mean I don't recommend it for a lot of people who are not happy don't take it but if you're happy with yourself you're gonna have a good time

Channel: The Ukrainian Sector

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Length: 27min 51sec (1671 seconds)

Published: Thu Aug 24 2017