Metal Planer Restoration 69: FINALLY - The First Chips Have Been CUT!

[Music] hello keith rucker here finished machinery.org guys today i'm hoping is going to be the day we're going to try to make our very first cut our very first chip over here on the newly restored new haven manufacturing company planer from the 1880s 1890s roughly time frame not exactly sure when it was made but it was in that ballpark so i'll show you what i got set up over here i have a big plate of steel here that i have just laying around the shop and i said you know what let's see if we can uh see if we can plane it i think it'll be a good candidate the challenge was getting it mounted to the table i really can't clamp it from the top because we're going to try to plane the whole surface so what we've done let me zoom in and i'll kind of show you what we've done here and i've used some of my planer books that i've got to get some ideas on how to properly clamp this down the cutting action is going to be pushing down and toward the front here so basically what i've done is i've just put a couple of bolts down into the bed of the planer top here and that gives me some stops that this is going to put up against and to kind of clamp it in place you know i don't really have jaws that i can clamp like on a vise but we can simulate that action i put two more studs back here in the back and i've used some planer jacks to go from those to the work so we're pressing everything up toward the front and in essence what we've got here is a modified vise and i also put some clamps on the front here on the sides that will just help to keep this thing from shifting side to side or cocking out one way or the other i'll put most of it up here in the front because that's really where most of the force is going to be it's going to out it's probably going to be up here but that should prevent this from twisting on the bed the nice thing about this setup is we've pretty much got clearance on the top we can plane all the way around this and we should not hit anything so that is uh that is good that is what we want so hopefully this is going to work out just fine they they made some specialized clamps and stuff for using on a planer i need to try to source some of that stuff and find some of that stuff so that i can have more options you know obviously if you got something you can clamp down to it makes a little bit easier but because we're trying to do the entire face of the top of this like i said we can't clamp down directly on the top and we don't have any clamping surfaces around the edge to clamp down to so we're just pushing it in all directions here now let's talk about the cutter that we're going to use and uh what i've got here this is actually a planar cutter that was given to me by a viewer and the cool thing about this is that these tools that are in here are more or less indexable this is uh some examples of the different tools they're basically forged out they have serrations in the back that kind of help keep them from slipping and i've got multiple profiles of different planer tools that you can use here you can sharpen these you can come in and just kind of kiss off the fronts and the surfaces around there and right now i've just kind of got a round one in here this would just be kind of a general purpose one um but there's a whole bunch of these different types of inserts i just got an example here of some of the ones that you can plop in and out of these tools um actually these inserts don't fit this tool i've got another holder but you kind of get the idea and we're going to give that a try like i said this is dedicated planer tooling this is what they would have used on planer back in the day you can also just use high speed steel and grind custom profiles i've got a holder to hold high speed steel as well if this gives me some trouble i may switch over to that but that's the plan so with the planer you know the work's going to come into the front of this kind of like it would a lathe tool but of course um after the cut it's going to have to drag back across so like on a shaper we got a clapper box here that hinges up so when it drags back across that cutter is just going to kind of pick up it's not going to be cutting and then the gravity will feed it down and then it will just press up against the back of this during the cut so you'll see that cutter kind of moving up and down depending on what part of the stroke it's in so yeah let's uh let's see what we can do here let's see if we can make a cut i should have plenty of clearance here with my cutter head and i've got my stroke set pretty long i'm actually going to let it go beyond the extremes here i can fine-tune that later on but to start out with where we're at here should be good turn things on [Applause] i'm gonna pull my cutter over here over my work [Applause] [Applause] get all the way over to the edge here [Applause] [Music] well my belt jumped off over here and that's probably a sign that this belt is stretched needs to be tightened up i don't think i've tightened this one up since i put it on there so we're going to find our lacing and what i'll do is i'm going to cut this belt about an inch shorter and we should be good and tight then hopefully uh it'll make a good cut so let me get that done i got my belt cutter here and like i said we're just going to snip off about an inch and get that cut and then we'll put some new lacing on there that's how much i cut off right there so i've got a card of the lacing here and we'll just uh figure out how much we need to cut off looks like it needs to be right right there and we'll cut those off and then lace that belt together so we'll drop this down there's a little comb in the bottom there that properly spaces those uh little teeth we'll put a clip on the bottom that'll capture them in there take our belt put it in place [Music] a little bit more there we go and we got new lacing a little bit shorter put it back on the machine all right so i'm just going to kind of put that over the top belt we'll go ahead and go through our shifting fork here and i will put the belt back together we'll take the pin put back in there that will put it together nice and good and now what we will do is uh let me get that around a little bit and we will put this belt back on just kind of pull it around the pulley here it's going to be real tight because i've cut a whole inch out made that belt an inch shorter but that's what we want we want to be good and tight there we go and that looks good all right so i think we are ready to fire back up again let me clean my table off first so let's fire it back up [Laughter] and now that belt comes off so we're gonna do the same thing over here well guys part of the joy of working with flat belt machinery is uh just this having to deal with these belts especially when you have new belts like these they haven't been really ran very much they tend to stretch a lot at first they get looser so i'm not surprised we're having to do this but hopefully this will resolve our problems get back out of here [Applause] let's see what happens [Applause] all right guys we are cutting steel here [Applause] taking a little light pass uh playing with things kind of learning this and feet as i go [Applause] this uh it's working [Applause] shortening up my stroke just a little bit [Applause] [Applause] hmm all right i've been playing with some adjustments here and uh i've shortened my stroke a little more timely and i've also increased the amount that it moves over in each pass so the depth of touch is the same as it was before but we are uh taking a little bit wider cut now and uh that seems to be cutting just fine so i think what i'm gonna do is just let this cut all the way across and uh i'm gonna be just kind of playing around with things and doing some tinkering and just see how things go i may get some oil and put on there too a little cutting oil that'll probably help get that rust off the top it's going to help as well let's turn in a nice tip though there fine [Applause] well guys this is the results of the very first pass and i'm gonna be honest with you uh that's a little rough um i'm fine-tuning this as i go and there was a lot of rust on there the oil kind of stained it a little bit but uh i'm thinking that uh this cutter probably just needs to be sharpened and it will probably cut a little bit better than that that's what i'm thinking anyway i did not even touch up that cutter i just put it in there and let it run so i think what i'm going to do is change cutters all together put a different one on here and now that i've got a roughed flat surface across here i think i'm gonna do is put a planing tool on here that makes a fairly wide flat cut and see if we can kind of clean that up a little bit ah ain't gonna hurt to try so let's uh let's see what we can do i'm gonna go grab a different cutter and probably go ahead and touch it up and sharpen it and we'll stick it on here and see what we can do so i've got another piece over here we're gonna try out on the planer this is more of a real world job and we're gonna give it a try change my setup completely basically what this is is one of my 12 inch straight edge castings that uh my buddy clark easterly over wendy hill foundry has been uh casting for me we're going to have these for sale hopefully real soon when he gets a little bit more of these in inventory where we'll have enough to sell right now we're just kind of building those up but regardless this is one of the castings and i want to machine it i want to go ahead and get it cut so that we can grind it and turn it into a usable tool and to do it i'm going to be using the metal planer i actually did one of these on a metal planer back last january i think it was on lance boxley's little uh hydraulics planer that he had and before we tore it down it's actually been being restored right now but uh we did try it out and we're gonna try to do basically the same thing we did before so i got my straight edge clamped down on a block of steel here that just kind of picks it up now instead of planing across on this we're going to basically plane up and down so instead of my feed feeding this carriage across we can also feed it up and down right here pull this gear out right go back the other way there we go and uh we're basically just going to lock the piece left to right in one spot and we're just going to plane straight down the other side is a 45 degree angle and what we can do is we can actually rotate the cutter or this whole head 45 degrees and feed it that angle going down we'll do that as a second step after we do this so i've gone to just using a high speed steel cutter and we're using one of these big armstrong uh planer tool holders it's just using uh this tool holder down here i think this is 5 8 inch square high speed steel that i just quickly ground a cutter out of so anyway we're going to try it out see what she does on some cast iron and yeah we'll go for along for the ride let's fire up [Applause] [Applause] all right it's cutting so we're taking a fairly coarse down feed here but it's cutting real nice uh heavier on this end and down here we're gonna have to make another pass to get it cleaned up straight but uh [Applause] all right i think we're about to the bottom [Applause] back up to the top [Applause] i'm going to stop it right there and what i want to do is i want to move in a little bit deeper now and so i'm going to just move the cutter head over i think i'm going to put a dial indicator on here so that i can see how far i'm moving i don't want to take too much of a cut i did as we got toward the bottom of that cut i i made the step down where it wasn't quite as coarse and i'm probably going to roll it down a little bit more just to get a little bit nicer finish there that roughing finish is fine right now but as we get closer and i want to get a better finish than that so let me make some adjustments and we'll do another pass i'm going to loosen this up i have it tightened up on the back and i want to i think i'm going to just move it about 25 thousandths i really don't know what the right number is for this i see that's coming toward me i want to go the other way but i think that'll be good and i'm going to clamp this back down it's going to take a little a couple extra thou there no big deal all right let's fire back up [Applause] take her for another ride all right so we're uh i've shortened that stroke up considerably it's making a much smoother finish in there now and uh still not cleaning up all the way out but uh probably could take a little bit deeper than 25 but that's actually leaving a nice finish so we'll just continue on with this as we go [Applause] all right we are uh making another pass here on the bottom and i've got a 50 000 of an inch depth of cut i haven't really measured what my down step is uh my feed rate but i've got it fairly fairly small per pass leaving a really nice finish i'm uh i'm actually really happy with how this is turning out of this cast iron it's looking pretty good so this will probably be my last pass on the bottom and then we'll set it up and cut that 45 degree angle going down the other side so far so good i'm happy with it [Applause] the bottom is done now i want to come down and do this 45 degree angle on the front you can see i've got my whole head tilted back to 45 degrees so that it's moving in a 45 degree angle going in i've got my cutter head tilted a little bit to give me good clearance when i come out so all that looks good yeah let's give it a try and see what happens here um should work just fine let's uh i'm going to start by just taking a real light pass i don't i'm always nervous on a first cut you know you might start off barely taking the cut over here but by the time you get down here you may be hogging it out so i really just kind of like to do a first pass and then i can make an adjustment and know where i'm going and know that i'm not taking too much of a bite out of there so let's uh let's fire up and let it roll [Applause] yeah it's gonna be fine taking a pretty hefty pass in there right on this end but uh please be handling it just fine [Applause] i am getting a little bit heavier on this end than what i want i think i'll move my cutter out a little bit just going to come back up to the top and we'll just move the cutter away from me it's really hogging it off down there a lot more than what i need let's see wrong way [Applause] all right let's um come up and we're going to come in 50 000 so we should be good to make that cut i believe tell you what all right let's go in 50 000 right there and we'll take another pass [Applause] all right we're taking a fifty thousandths cut on this coming on down it's pretty much cleaning up all the way across although probably gonna take another pass just to make sure i get it down below uh any hard surfaces there the finish on this side going down over here is not quite as good as the finish was on the front side but i think it has to do with the orientation of my cutter gonna be fine though for what we're gonna be doing [Applause] all right so that did not quite clean up down here we're gonna come back and finish that up all right we're going to make one more final pass on this i think this will be the last pass anyway and i think we'll be pretty much where we want to be i don't know i may take a light pass see if i can get a better perfect finish but this is another 50 000 step it's that nice [Applause] so [Applause] all right so we've got our part off the machine now and um you know my surface finish is not quite what i want it to be i really think a lot of that has to do with my cutter this surface actually turned out pretty good still i think if i have a little bit larger radius on that cutter i think it'll work a little bit better i've obviously got some fine tuning to do i've noticed working on the machine that there's a few little odds and ends that i need to just kind of do a little bit of work on i noticed my little ratchet pile over there's not quite working right just some tweaks but uh all in all guys i'm gonna call this a success uh we have made our first ships and uh i'm happy with the results i mean i think it's good again coming right off the machine with no fine-tuning or adjusting we have got a working machine so again i think we have shown that the machine is working i think we're successful in the restoration uh things are not quite finished yet like i said we got some fine-tuning probably the biggest thing i've noticed is there's a little spring-loaded ratchet pawl right here and it's not the spring that's in there right now is a little bit too strong and it's not wanting to always ratchet back which i was having to give it a little bit of help over here i need to source me a little bit uh lighter spring to go in there and hopefully we'll get that taken care of a few other other odds and ends i need to get my adapter up here made we talked about it in the video before to raise and lower the cross head uh there's some whey wipers that go on the end of this and i need to get those out i've actually got them i need to get them cleaned up put felts in them get those installed there's actually some oil cups that hang on the ends of this thing to catch oil right now the oil that's coming out of the way just dripping down the floor i'm going to have to have those remade recast clark uh my foundry guys got those at the moment and [Music] i don't know i can't think of anything else right now i'm sure there's a few little other small odds and ends that need to be done but all in all i am stoked i'm real happy like i said i've got some practicing to do with this machine just getting to know it work on some cutter grinds and just try to play around with some stuff and i'm going to be doing that you know off and on over the next month or two i know i've already had some people asking hey i got a southern lathe bed i want to send you to redo on the planer let's let me get to know this machine a little bit better let me get to kind of work the kinks out of it before i try to do a job like that but i think at some point in the foreseeable future it's very definite that we could potentially bring some jobs like that into the shop and use this machine on it yeah it seems to be working pretty good so there you go guys uh that's gonna be a wrap on this episode finally after almost a little over two years we've made our first cuts uh and we've shown this machine is back up and running and i like i said i'm tickled to death guys uh that is gonna be a wrap as always thanks for watching please do subscribe to my channel if you haven't already thumbs up comments are appreciated hit the bell icon up yonder to get that notifications hopefully when new videos are posted youtube's not always the greatest about doing that but anything you can do to help make sure you get 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Length: 28min 9sec (1689 seconds)

Published: Fri Oct 01 2021