WOWZA. >> IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. OH, THIS IS SO EXCITIN. >> THAT LOOKS REALLY SCARY TO ME. >> WHAT DOES? >> WHAT DID YOU, JUMPING OFF THOSE THINGS. >> IT WAS ALL TERRIFYING, BUT REALLY, MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY, REALLY GOOD. I WALKED AWAY FROM THE SHOW FEELING SO EMPOWERED, LIKE I CAN CONQUER ANYTHING. I WAS, LIKE, WOW. >> EVEN THOUGH I THINK I WOULD RATHER JUMP OUT OF A HELICOPTER THAN DO "NAKED & AFRAID." NEVER. >> SO MEL, YOU CAME UP DURING HOT TOPICS A FEW MONTHS BACK. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AN INTERVIEW IN WHICH EMMA BUNTON, ALSO KNOWN AS -- >> BABY SPICE. >> BABY SPICE. >> YES. >> SHE SAID OF ALL THE SPICE GIRLS, YOU'RE THE WORST ONE AT KEEPING A SECRET. NOW YOU -- >> WHAT? >> HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO DEFEND YOURSELF. >> JUST BECAUSE I'M VERY OUTSPOKEN DOESN'T MEAN I CAN'T KEEP A SECRET. I'M ACTUALLY THE BEST ONE OUT OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE GROUP BECAUSE I WILL TAKE THINGS TO MY GRAVE. IF MY GIRLFRIEND SAYS TO ME, DON'T TELL A SOUL, THEN I WON'T TELL A SOUL. >> THIS IS A FALSE ACCUSATION? >> YEAH. BECAUSE PROBABLY BABY SPICE -- YOU'RE THE ONE, BABY SPICE, THAT CAN'T KEEP A SECRET. LET ME TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW, OUTING ME RIGHT THAT, THROWING ME TO THE WOLVES. JESUS. >> I AGREE WITH YOU. EVERYBODY THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T KEEP A SECRET, IT'S THEM THAT CAN'T KEEP IT. >> EXACTLY. EXACTLY. >> THAT'S A SECRET THEY TOLD, THAT YOU CAN'T KEEP A SECRET. >> I'M GOING TO TEXT HER AS SOON AS I GET OFF THIS SHOW. I SWEAR TO GOSH. >> ANA, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> YOU WORKED OUT TO THE SONG "WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE" BY THE SPICE GIRLS. >> YEAH. >> YOU RELEASED THAT IN 1997. >> WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT? I FEEL SO OLD NOW. MY KIDS SAY TO ME, OH, ACTUALLY SPICE GIRLS HAVE COME BACK AROUND IN, LIKE, COMMON NOW BECAUSE YOU'RE VINTAGE. I'M, LIKE, OKAY. >> THAT WAS VERY AGGRESSIVE. >> OKAY. >> YOU HAVE THREE DAUGHTERS, RIGHT? >> I HAVE THREE. 23-YEAR-OLD, A 15-YEAR-OLD, AND AN 11-YEAR-OLD. SO I'VE GOT THEM ON ALL LEVELS. OH, YEAH. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANTED TO DO "SPECIAL FORCES," JUST TO SHOW TO MY KIDS THAT I'M STILL THAT BADASS. >> YOU ARE. >> YOU ARE, AND THAT CLIP WE SAW OF YOU FALLING OUT OF THE HELD CO -- HELICOPTER ON PURPOSE -- >> YEAH. >> THIS IS "SPECIAL FORCES: WORLD'S TOUGHEST TEST." YOU WERE WITH A GREAT CAST OF PEOPLE INCLUDING JAMIE LYNN SPEARS, DWIGHT HOWARD, ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI. >> DR. DREW. >> JUST TO MAKE A FEW. >> DID THE MOOCH JUMP OUT OF THE PLANE TOO? >> YEAH, BUT I DON'T THINK HE LANDED VERY WELL. >> THAT'S WHY HE'S NOT WITH US TODAY. >> SYMBOLIC OF HIS CAREER. >> OH, GOSH. >> OF ALL THE SPICE GIRLS, YOU E EPITOMIZED GIRL POWER AND AS FANS, NOBODY NEEDED YOU TO DO THIS, BUT YOU HAD A PERSONAL REASON FOR WANTING TO DO THIS. >> I HAD TO DO THIS SHOW BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, I HAD A VERY ABUSIVE TEN-YEAR MARRIAGE AND I'M ABOUT FIVE YEARS OUT OF THAT. SO WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU WALK OUT OF IT FEELING SO BROKEN AND FEELING SO WORTHLESS. YOU'RE RIDDLED WITH SHAME AND WITH GUILT BECAUSE ABUSE HAPPENS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT'S AN EPIDEMIC, AND SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW, YOU'VE EITHER BEEN THROUGH ABUSE, OR YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN THROUGH IT, BE IT A NEIGHBOR OR FAMILY MEMBER, AND WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT ENOUGH. I WROTE A BOOK CALLED "BRUTALLY HONEST," IN 2015, AND NOBODY WANTED TO PUBLISH IT. THEY WERE, LIKE, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT STUFF. I'M, LIKE, WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT? IT HAPPENS. IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE, AND IF WE STAND STRONG TOGETHER AND FACE IT HEAD-ON WITH SUPPORT, THE RIGHT SUPPORT, THEN WE CAN SOMEWHAT GET IT OUT IN THE OPEN BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING. IT REALLY SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. >> IT HAPPENS MORE WHEN WE ALLOW IT TO BE SILENT. THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF SPEAKING ABOUT IT. >> FOR ME DOING THIS SHOW, I JUST WANTED TO SEE HOW FAR ALONG I'D GONE IN MY HEALING PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A LONG JOURNEY. I'M ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THE PTSD, THE FLASHBACKS. SO MY BEING CHOOSING TO PUT MYSELF ON A SHOW WHERE YOU ARE YELLED AT, YOU'RE HOODED, YOU'RE STRANGLED, YOU HAVE TO GO INTO BATTLE. IT WAS EVERYTHING THAT WAS A TRIGGER FOR ME AND I JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS MY CHOICE TO DO THIS SHOW. I WANT TO DO IT FOR MYSELF. I WANT TO TAP INTO THAT INNER STRENGTH THAT I THOUGHT I STILL HAD BEFORE MY ABUSE EVEN HAPPENED AND SEE IF THAT PERSON IS STILL THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONLY YOU CAN STOP THE ABUSE HAPPENING TO YOURSELF AGAIN IN YOUR HEAD ONCE YOU'VE LEFT. >> YEAH. >> SO IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO KIND OF REGAIN MY POWER, TAKE MY POWER BACK, AND TALK ABOUT IT ON LOVELY SHOWS LIKE THIS ONE. [ APPLAUSE ] >> I HAVE TO MAKE A QUICK LEGAL NOTE. >> YEAH, YOU DO. >> MEL B'S EX-HUSBAND HAS DENIED THESE ALLEGATIONS. FOR LEGAL REASONS WE NEED TO SAY THAT. >> AS IF AN ABUSER IS GOING TO GO, YES, I ABUSE. COME ON. >> YOU DID MAKE THE DECISION TO LEAVE THE SHOW EARLY. >> IT WASN'T EARLY. >> IT WASN'T? >> LISTEN. TO ME, IT FELT LIKE A LIFETIME BECAUSE THE MOMENT YOU STEP INTO THAT WORLD, YOU'VE GOT NO PHONE, NO HAIR AND MAKEUP. YOU'VE JUST GOT A NUMBER. YOU'RE NOT EVEN A NAME. YOU'RE NOT CALLED MELANIE. YOU'RE CALLED -- NUMBER NINE I WAS CALLED. YOU'VE GOT A UNIFORM. YOU'RE TOLD WHAT TO DO, WHAT TO WEAR, WHEN TO WAKE UP, WHEN TO SLEEP. IT IS DRAINING AND TRIGGERING. SO THREE, FOUR DAYS OF THAT, AND YOU DON'T SLEEP BECAUSE YOU'RE WOKEN UP AT 4:00 A.M. TO GO DO DRILLS WHICH I DID, AND I DISLOCATED MY KNEE, SLAMMED IT BACK IN AND KEPT ON RUNNING. I WAS G.I. JANE AFTER THAT. IT HURT AFTERWARDS. >> DON'T DO IT ANYMORE. >> YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED HOW FAR YOU CAN ACTUALLY MENTALLY GO, AND THAT WAS A REAL TEST FOR ME. >> I LOVE THAT YOU ARE CARRYING THE GIRL POWER LEGACY. I WAS THE BIGGEST SPICE GIRLS FAN. >> ALWAYS. >> I GREW UP DRESSING UP AS SPORTY SPICE, BUT MY OLDER SPICE DRESSED UP AS YOU. YOU WERE HER ABSOLUTE FAVORITE. WE LOVED YOU, BUT I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE ADVOCACY WORK YOU'VE DOPE DONE WITH YOUR BOOK, AND HAVING BEEN IN AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP. YOU RECEIVED AN AWARD. >> I WAS SHOCKED. BECAUSE MBE, WHEN YOU GET THIS MEDAL, YOU'RE PART OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE WHICH IS, LIKE -- I WAS, LIKE, ARE YOU SURE, THEY WERE MEANT TO SEND THAT TO ME? HAVE THEY GOT THE RIGHT PERSON? YOU'RE PART OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE, AND YOU'RE KIND OF GIVEN SO MUCH RESPECT ON THE STUFF THAT YOU HAVE DONE. SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FOR SPICE GIRLS, BUT IT WASN'T. IT WAS FOR MY CHARITY WORK AND BRINGING AWARENESS TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. VICTORIA ACTUALLY MADE THAT DRESS FOR ME AND SHE DRESSED MY MOM. AS WILLIAM WAS PUTTING THE MEDAL ON MY CHEST, MY -- WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? >> VICTORIA HAD PUT A SLIT RIGHT THERE AND I'M THINKING, OH MY GOD. HE'S LOOKING -- LOOKING RIGHT THERE AND I'M THINKING, JUST KEEP SMILING. KEEP SMILING, BUT IT WAS SUCH AN HONOR, AND THAT -- I WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THE QUEEN'S LAST RED BOX THAT SHE SIGNED. IT'S VERY SENTIMENTAL FOR ME. [ APPLAUSE ] >> YOU HAVE SUCH A HUGE FAN BASE, AND YOU KNOW THAT FROM THE STANDING OVATION THAT YOU GOT WHEN YOU WALKED IN HERE. >> YOU'RE ALL BEAUTIFUL, CAN I JUST SAY? >> SO ARE YOU. >> I DIDN'T WAKE UP LIKE THIS. >> NEITHER DID I. >> YES, I WAS AROUND IN 1997. I WAS A HUGE FAN. I WOULD ALWAYS DRESS UP AS YOU. I CAN REMEMBER WHEN THE FIRST SONG CAME OUT, AND NOT ONLY WERE YOU SUPER TALENTED. YOU WERE JUST SO COOL. IT WAS LIKE A COOL FACTOR ABOUT YOU. YES. TAKE IT, RECEIVE IT. >> I'M NOT GOOD AT TAKING COMPLIMENT. >> THIS IS WHERE I NEED YOU TO NOT KEEP A SECRET. MY FAVORITE RUMORS ARE THE ONES THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A POSSIBLE REUNION. >> OH, THERE IS. >> ANY UPDATES? >> I'M ALWAYS SAYING IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT BECAUSE COVID HAPPENED, EVERYTHING KIND OF PUT ON THE BACK BURNER. WE'RE GOING TO BE ANNOUNCING SOMETHING REALLY SOON, BUT I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. >> OH, COME ON. >> SHE KEPT A SECRET. >> EXACTLY. THANK YOU. >> I SAW YOU GUYS ALL ON A VIDEO AT ONE OF THE WEDDINGS AND YOU WERE ALL SINGING AND IT WAS MARVELOUS. WAS IT, LIKE, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO? >> THAT WAS JERRY'S 50th. I DIDN'T GO TO THAT BECAUSE JERRY KEPT MOVING THE DATE. >> DANG IT, JERRY. >> THE QUEEN DIED SO SHE HAD TO MOVE EVERYTHING. I WAS, LIKE, I'M WORKING, SO I SENT HER A VIDEO. NOBODY BELIEVES THAT SHE'S 50. >> I DON'T BELIEVE IT. >> SHE'S 75. JUST SAYING. PUTTING IT OUT THERE. >> LET'S HEAR IT FOR GIRL POWER, OKAY? OUR THANKS TO MEL B. "SPECIAL FORCES: WORLD'S TOUGHEST TEST" IS WEDNESDAY NIGHT. CHECK
