Making stuff from scrap rail.

gentlemen welcome back to the shop today we make a thing out of a beloved materiel a new ingredient and as any chef will tell you new ingredients require new recipes you remember this guy being in my bloody existence grinding up the learning curve we got to get this thing hotted up and always a surprise if you don't add the virgil it uh thinks that's milliseconds we're just gonna warm this up on account of it being cold as a bronze bidet in here now this rail 127 pound dudley 127 pounds per yard i had to look that up i didn't know from the canadian national railroad they got every plug nickel out of her not to worry bill gates ain't hurting anyway i have it on the utmost authority that is blacksmithing forum posts decades old mind that this is 1084 carbon steel a proper greatest deal real popular with the knife makers however chalk a block right full of the molybdenum which makes it work harden and as you can tell by the cam and over here work this rail has it's like a divorcee's bed frame the thing it's got hard nuggets and soft nuggets and it's just chewing chewing through the carbide going in real soft and easy and just kissing it i'm breaking the thing right off often two what we want to end up making now this this this was say the third try or so fourth try fifth try one loses count trying to make some decorative bookends when you can't make something useful at least you can make some art out of it it's sort of a when somebody retires you know i give them something from so what i was gonna do and here's the thing we could very easily anneal these but there's a reason i don't want to anneal them one challenge two it disrupts the lee the western european that is a teutonic ideal of organization it's very rectangular very regular very a place for everything and everything in its place it's wholly unnatural you look at a tree and it is fighting with the entirety of its being against entropy it is organized and yet it is not square it is not always nulled that is the concept of lee which is a natural organization what would seem to an outsider is utter chaos is completely organized for instance if i wanted to find a bulging dangerous nightclub battery i would find it on the very periphery of the pile if i wanted to find my torx handy dandy little doodads i would find them under a strata of tools of course because i used these in order to get the tool apart and the carcass lays on top so we're in a three-dimensional style of organization that is lee taking the shortcut of annealing this would destroy the inner lee which was forged over decades and tens of millions of pounds of cargo what clothed and fed and heated people's lives there is a soul to this rail which would be but destroyed destroyed by annealing it and also we'd need to plug in the kiln as witnessed by the proper blue chips man glitter i had had a proper pick at the pogue here i stopped short who knew fixturing was so important so we got a little bit better fixturing and we've changed some of the parameters just lowered the feed down a little bit increase the speed and we are using that spindle speed variation which changed you could hear it while it was running it changes the speed of the tool up and down so it's always accelerating or decelerating if you get the parameters right it doesn't allow a vibration a resonant vibration to set up in the machine tool as you can see we're using quite a girthy tool 20 millimeters this these i think these are from the usual scumbags just el chipos from the big rock candy mountain spanking she is 20 millimeter end mill we're just going to make sure that the confuser knows how long it is oh crunchy you know me mr gumdrops and lollipops if there's one thing that separates humans from the miserable lot of their existence it's aiming and throwing so you got to be careful as a human that you're not always aiming at the negative because you will hit that target every time but son of a beach and thing the sneaker net doesn't work on 3.0 it won't recognize 128 gig drive so i got to go back to the confuser put it on a shitty old drive instead it never ends all right there we go usb the memory graphics will run the program just in graphics and we're going to have a bunch of air cutting [Music] [Applause] [Music] you see there's a little ridge a corn cob cutter must have lost a inch a little more than a edge at lost there's two there and now we're we're getting her we're getting there let i just want to reiterate no one in their right mind would be so dumb as to try and machine as hard as woodpecker lips invariably you get into industry you will see this somebody come over called you over hey this thing this band saw cutting like a hot damn and now it's all cattywompus it ain't working it's squealing and you get up from behind your clipboard and you kind of walk over through the haze of welding spatter and twisted steel and sex appeal to discern from a distance is that what i think it is in the vice of the bandsaw you get a little closer some what brought in an old scabby piece of rail is trying to cut it in the company bandsaw and making dollies or this that the other thing for bodywork or anvils or some brainiac idea and stripped all the teeth off the one side of the rake on the bandsaw and now it ain't cutting so do not cut rail in the bandsaw you got to do it it's a fantastic job for somebody else it's horrific to cut it in the abrasive saw but that's the only way you're gonna get any kind of mileage is abrasive cut it's noisy horrific horrific good job for somebody else but being is how we wiped this edge off right off the hop we got to be either not fixtured well enough it vibrating or we come in well i mean the simple thing is if you got a microscopic chip you took too much of a bite and very likely on the lead in we took too much of a bite so what i did i dialed it back from 22 inches per minute to 19 on the regular feed and then the lead in that is when it starts its cut i dialed it back to 15 inches per minute we'll see now if this pre-damaged end mill will get through an entire book end fingers crossed [Music] pertinent to our far eastern take on organization elite and so forth i have another very interesting concept i want to face and i learned long ago that when there's a big huge obvious up everybody knows it there is no need to even mention it the dicky vice just about got us to destination fact we'll fix that way more affixation points unfortunately the microphone phone did not survive the onslaught something so you'll have to put up with the onboard microphone on huh and background noise apologize and so forth now we gotta tell the confuser where we're to fix my shawl mill fix my g54 work off set oh it never ends [Music] [Music] [Music] cycle complete now she may look like a secondhand prom dress you made her full pull like i said partner sometimes if we didn't have bad luck we wouldn't have any luck at all we're just about ready to go logging with that squeeze every plug nickel out of her i wouldn't touch that with your dick that is what we call gravitas right there means i got gravity in them oh to be a fly on the wall in a hundred years at the estate sale and the young fella asked what even are these i don't know but i'll take two bucks for them thanks for watching keep your deck in the vice

Channel: AvE

Views: 536,828

Rating: 4.868731 out of 5

Keywords: machining, carbide, feeds, speeds, haas, rail, forge, tool

Id: q-PUu509LME

Length: 12min 29sec (749 seconds)

Published: Fri Apr 02 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/PsychologyWise1490]

Not only work hardening but also hardening of the top of the rail during production, have I missed that part?

[u/prisonbird]

Ave and This Old Tony are really funny in a different way. And they slowly made me love machines. im planning to buy a mini lathe with my non-existent money. i hope some day i can thank them face to face

[u/Allah_Shakur]

should anneal it, no?

[u/theatxrunner]

My grandfather tells a story about watching a section of rail cut with cold water. He claims the guy scored a line in it with a hand held scribe then heated it a little and poured cold water on it. I haven’t been able to find any references to this technique on the internet, but grandpa isn’t really one to lie about things. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/BenEsq]

Dumb question: wouldn't coolant help with this?

[u/zdiggler]

There are different grades of rails too.

Yard and low traffic ones are softer than main line ones.

[u/forkandbowl]

Wished i had seen this before i destroyed a shit pile of inserts trying to machine my rail flat for an anvil.

[u/Hartifuil]

Interesting! I've been thinking about getting rail as anvils are insane amounts of money. I guess now I know I need to get it at the size I want it since I have no hope of cutting it with the tooling I have available to me.