Mach-E Review with Chief Engineer Donna Dickson

hey boys and girls welcome to uh monroe live again we have donna dixon here um she's in charge of the ford maki now she inherited it so she can't be blamed for everything we're going to be as kind as we can but uh but anyway what we're going to do is we're going to start out today by looking at um the ford maki um we're going to look at the good stuff and the bad stuff donna's going to be um hopefully a good sport all this stuff and and we'd like to thank you very much for coming on board donna i i've got to tell you i think that's the first time we've ever done a teardown with uh that i can think of where we had someone from the company uh basically fielding questions on the spot so uh okay yeah well we look forward to it you know i've been watching the videos so that you know it's definitely an opportunity for us to uh continuously improve the the vehicle and we we just wanted to spend some time go through it and and give a little bit of insight on our designs and and get some feedback as well you know more than maybe what we had on the video so well great look forward to it let's let's start off with something that i really love you out test lead tesla on here um and um and that's because i i really didn't care much for this thing these come out so we actually coming for uh in july we actually are um having the vehicles come out less of the dividers good idea because that really doesn't do me any favors that costs money and it adds weight and to me i can't i can't get the beer properly organization exactly and this is where i really uh when i opened that up and i saw oh you got a frank that's good better than the other two cars that we had looked at and then i looked down and i said what's that is that a drain and and i'm telling you what instantly i loved it so i think that this is this is what people should be doing they should be looking at whoever is out there already that's got something that's kind of good and then improve it so do you know anything about the or can you help us out like i like the idea that you're getting rid of that but so i mean let me just on this right i think this just goes to show you the importance that we put on the customer and really keeping the customer on the forefront right this was important we we prioritized the package in here to make sure that we could contain actually it's like um uh one luggage right it was a size luggage that we wanted to make sure that we contain and we prioritize that and and the parts around it to make sure that um that we could deliver uh that package for for the franc so uh for for maki like i said we we step it up um we have some uh automatic releases also coming when we when we took that out so you can actually now hit your your the button on your your fordpass app or you could hit it from your screen inside the vehicle and it will release it for you cool that sounds great so do you know what the reason or rationale was behind that it was uh yeah just it was limited as far as being able to have that automatic release right from from a regulatory perspective right so nobody could be in here and it would close so you had issues getting the automated release to work when the vehicle was first launched yeah it was uh came out slightly after launch right right is that something that's going to be able to be updated with cars that are out there it will be available through ota so we will make um all cars that are in in the field they'll get that one as part of the third quarter ota update and that's good ota is a customer satisfier there's no question about it and as you probably well i don't know how much uh deming is still at ford but when i was there we had to memorize the 14 points and what's the leader supposed to do create new leaders number two on the list though was um was um understand the customer so it's a priority yeah so this is quite good actually there's a lot of things that we do like about this car um i'm not gonna kid you the uh the the model y is still my all-time favorite as far as the vehicle is concerned with everything that they've done but this car so far has come in second we we have we've looked at lots of vehicles and and coming in second against tesla right now crew's been doing it for eons it's uh not a bad deal so we like this and um and now we maybe we can just drop into the battery pack so if we look at your batteries and the guys from volkswagen they come from the same guys but volkswagen is all made out of aluminum and this one is made out of plastic so what how did that happen yeah that's a hard one for me just because i i've been new new to the group right but i know the team really concentrated on weight right on just just as much as everything else we had to really make sure that weight um was looked at so i i don't know if that was some of it that went in and how they're raising that performed um but we'll have i i can't really talk too much on to the world this weighs less no question about it costs less and it should be easier to put together it's just that we almost never see like lg as the guys doing this we never really usually see a company that size changing the switch different yeah for this customer and that customer um this is better for thermal management as well so uh so anyway it would have been good to know about a little bit more about to that did you have something to jump in there with no we can skip over we'll jump back to the pack in a little bit we'll talk about body and weight and all of that stuff here in a little bit so we can look at some of the other things behind you here sandy yeah so yeah right so this is one of um this is one of the things that i really really liked um this is a very compact design for um for the window regulation [Music] operation so this brings that's where your window would your glass would mount and and goes up and down these modules uh this module is probably the best we've seen period so again two good things uh two or three good things that we've seen from ford on this and that's why um we've kind of like uh bumped uh uh the the maquis into uh into second place but any any comments yeah i would just i think you're seeing this right from you know vehicle to vehicle so we actually launched this system on a few of our 20 vehicles the explorer the escape so you're seeing where you know we have a design we're replicating that design right it gives you the quality it gives you repeatability so you know now you're starting to see it used on some of the new products for 21 so yeah the the modularity is um you know what what we're we're aiming for going forward and flexible not just flexible architectures but flexible commonality of designs to to just help us as we go forward right it works really well yeah um and you don't have to you know it kind of goes with the design right so yep it's it's light waist lightweight it's a single piece yeah it's easy for manufacturing easy for manufacturing less expensive yeah but still like you said performs just as well right yeah so from a customer standpoint they're getting the same window operation with a easier to put together system right right so right this is something that i i absolutely love but i think that's gonna um so the the door handles or lack of door handles on the maki is something that we really like the push button operation the uh the presenter okay the presenter we're calling it a plunger uh we weren't real sure the presenter in the door [Laughter] that clears my toilet yeah so but it was a really it functioned really well on the vehicle i just wonder if you give us a little bit of background about going away from door handles and a company that's making been making door handles for forever 100 some years yeah so i mean again you know when you walk up to the vehicle you feel that it's something different right um it was a priority for us not to have door handles on the side right aerodynamics is key in this right because we want to get them out the most range on these vehicles so uh we did very late we didn't really want a door handle we wanted just kind of that that button but we felt like we needed it on the front but so late in the the design process we did add it right um so it did take you know a little bit for us to kind of get around it that we were going to be adding it to to the system but boy once everybody got on board you know um they were on board and came up with you know a great design because i think it as you see customers it's like okay that white light comes on they kind of look at it and then they realize when they touch it and then it's just a smooth motion right it's just a natural motion for the customers so the team did a fantastic job i'm here talking about it right like you said earlier i've kind of inherited it post launch team did a a phenomenal job executing that customer experience for the customer right and this is a much more intuitive system than what we saw on tesla when we first got out of 2018 and tried to open the door handle how do you have to get your you know get your hands in there to use it took a little bit longer to get comfortable with it but this was just push the button and i think you don't even really know that the presenter is there right it just kind of all happens just very freaking yeah right so it's just very natural it and and and that's i think what it that experience is what the customer what we're hearing why it appeals to our customers and that's one of the reasons why we've got you in in the number two place you've got you've got world-class stuff if people aren't copying this copying that copying your draining well we want to be we want to lead we're going to win it right yeah well uh these are these are good ways to make things happen okay so we talked about good stuff let's uh okay let's drop over here this uh this didn't make me happy um this is your rear motor and um i guess the number one thing that all of us want to ask ben corey myself and everybody else in the company why the park paul ah okay so because that was you know as i said this is our foundation product we want to get it out we know that we know that design we and and we chose to early on set set it up that way that we would use the park ball um so just from a customer reliability from an engineering uh we leveraged it okay going forward i can tell you um on our new bevs i think you'll you'll see that it will be more where that is pulled out and will rely on the blade brake electronics one i know i have no clue our guys are costing you right now but um but that's uh that's uh it's a definitely i forgot the uh definitely yeah yeah to go with it right to go with it hardly anything and i'm sure you can only get that's probably no more than twelve or fourteen dollars it's cost cost and weight but yeah and i think that you're going to see that throughout right it's leveraging the products that we had leveraging the designs that we knew because when we wanted to put this product out we wanted to put it out without any issues right had to be that ford built tough um and had to meet the the the our engineering requirements and this was the system that we have but going forward building on our evs you'll see you'll see a change i do know one thing um this design compared to this design let's move over here we can talk happier oh let's talk about all the goodness talk about all the goodness yeah well this is brilliant i gotta tell you flat there's very little here that i have any any grounds to throw rocks at normally i'd say i don't like this because it should be connected together but you've got the you've got the cross card beam in between and okay fine you worked around it but everything here doesn't look anything like that so i believe that this is um this is uh magna and an lg lg that came up with this and this design like i say is this is far superior to that one yeah lg magna tuborg right so board backs and a board box but yeah a lot of the board warner yeah yeah yeah okay so i don't quite understand how like at powertrain okay i came from ford uh powertrain and when we were there consistency or the thumbprint that we wanted to see was so i don't understand how the thumbprint went from well from this to that or it takes one right right as far as the um and what motor capability for the the rear box versus what the front has to say the assemblability i mean everything here is on one board that's like a tesla design that one over there uh yeah multiple not so much but uh but but uh um i'm just wondering is the were these designs done by ford or were they done outside outside outside so are you going to talk to these guys then about we definitely will take those i told you right we're all about looking for efficiencies that's what's so nice about what you guys have done right so we we want that continuous improvement so any kind of down we do want to go back with the suppliers to see right it was set up though right i mean for what we felt was the best design that we could get out and right and not have any issues with the customer but yeah we'll definitely take that back all the teams have have watched and are looking for opportunities in the different areas that you've torn down surprised the building's still standing yeah we uh when we first started tearing a tesla apart they said they were going to come and burn us down no no no no no no no anyhow that's all right it's our opportunity to grow right this this is an area this is our future right um like i said i keep saying the maki is the foundation that ford's going to build from and um and it's all about learning and how we do it better right because you you just put it pointed it on these vehicles it's all about weight right we have to get weight out of the vehicle we know that so where there's opportunity we'll definitely investigate it well weight is one thing arrow is the second one now you've done a good job with the door handles why have you still got when are we going to get rid of um wing mirrors side mirrors whatever you want yeah i know i mean these are just stupid yeah um i was take i took a ride in um in a faraday future uh 91 ff 91 okay so um they their rear view mirror is actually a camera okay they just put a rear view mirror looking thing there but it's a camera so i asked them well if you can get that long skinny why don't you just take and put two more cameras um you know in the tail lights or something like that and uh and make the mirror that long and uh and now i can see all the way around me why why were you doing that and because quite frankly the the worst part of the whole drive was the stupid wind noise off of the off the mirror and it's always the same i don't understand why it is we're still stuck in that uh yeah i mean we got rid of door handles i mean i can i can i think you're going to see it there's an issue i think you're going to see it evolve we've been talking about that for a long time could you you know could you do cameras on on the sides of cars right instead of mirrors so i think that's something that we're seeing a change to the industry right so i think you'll see that as as we go forward so how do you do the lobbying that you need to in order to get the old guys in um in dc to change their mind yeah i mean and we're pretty active with that right i mean you see uh not just our our leaders at ford but the other leaders going and really kind of joining with as partners on what we need to to change but i it will take that right because it is our regulations that that that that forces us kind of into what we have to design and develop for that mirror well i'll tell you this is something that i really think there has to be some folks there has to be some folks awakened um in dc and and they have to be told hey you know what it's a new day yeah and wing mirrors um it's a lot easier to get a wing near torn off when you're trying to park your car in your garage than it would be to get rid of cameras and whatnot it's uh yeah i think it's i think just like i think eight asses should be brought on faster instead of slower because quite frankly i i looked at the data for um auto drive for tesla and equalizing everything it's like it seems to be about um i think it's 90 something percent uh safer than uh than just somebody driving along so i i'm well you ford is committed to that right i mean we we took a stop and gosh i don't know what model if it was 22 right where we were making it we're making that standard yeah so it's it is critical to our our safety and we again looking you know to just make the keep the customer safe right and do what you can to keep it safe and that's that's what's in the maki and you can see that across all of our vehicles yeah um like i said we're uh we're fairly impressed with uh with what you've come up with um i still think that there's some stuff that uh that you can um you could probably either learn from from other car companies or uh or maybe just go back and and tickle that design and by the way i'm not going to be shy on this yeah if we had that thing to read we do a lot of redesign work for different oems that that's like shooting fish in a bucket so um if you if you're not happy with the numbers that you get out of that we'd be happy to quote on on redesigning it okay so last on the list cooling i was kind of hoping you were okay because i saw you fell on this one i i i i think we have to kind of bring this up um so what what are you gonna do here okay so as you saw right a lot of our hosing right we're in the front page we're in the front package we didn't really send too much to the rear because i think some of our competitors kind of set up towards the rear and right drive the lines back so when when we looked at the the front compartment um you know we have modules we utilize modules from our p hub right so we didn't redesign a kind of a one all of our ep modules um were from our phabs we placed them um and prioritize those right uh we also pulled from the escape off the c2 architecture the hvac so a lot of the can you know the the hosing in that were really based on where we packaged our modules and also utilizing that hvac right so um probably not ideal when when you pull out that frunk right front kind of hides it the customer usually never sees that as far as the routing but we're definitely looking at advancing it right and taking efficiencies i can tell you we have two pumps to the the motor one pump's coming out early early modeling um showed that we would need it now we're into actual data and we don't need it you know the rates are performing at a level that we don't need that pump so we are learning from there um a three valve five valve we're gonna earth i think it's three valve four valve we're actually looking at combining so going from two to one and making it a five valve so you know that's that's again setting you know getting the vehicle out based on trying to like use the bits and pieces that we had to you know lower our engineering costs lower our our development right um prove out on the system so a lot of that drove into the maquis i from uh a material you know this is what we know the design it works well it has no issues in the field and and this is what we launched with i i wanted to see if you had it we have one line that goes back to the rear rear motor that's plastic yeah so that was really our first okay let's get it out see what you can do smaller diameter lower weight you and that was our first application of it so you'll start seeing seeing us build from that right and start driving it into these because we know we these are kind of you know very over designed for what a ev really needs right you know we have lower temperatures we have lower pressure so we can go down on the diameter so you can see in our design that there's a little bit there that we're going to build off of for the next ebs yeah so this compared to any uh any of the teslas it's kind of like really heavy and a lot of a lot of connecting and whatnot yeah have you guys are you guys going to be benchmarking or have you benchmarked the uh the octo valve or the um actually even the super we actually did the bottle we actually did an oce and active album and we're pretty comparable from a cost perspective just on on that right but yeah no from a housing perspective if you also you need to take in the teslas that it the the hosing that goes back to uh back to that right because i'm not sure that that was accounted for when we kind of did a comparison we did the engine bay comparison right yeah so this would be everything and then you would have to also take their lines in right but from a um from a hose length yet we're a little bit longer from a you know a fluid um we're about we're pretty comparable from a fluid perspective just from our numbers on what i can fill at max at the plant versus kind of for production pretty comparable you were a little bit higher on on the numbers uh in the tear down so we could we could get that all we did was uh weigh it yeah but the bottles go to one yeah bottles bottles are going to be going to one and so it's kind of going to be like a super bottle yeah type this final idea was really really brilliant we thought that was something that everybody would kind of like dive into um if they had ptc heaters or whatever but um we were surprised yeah we went with two identical right um so we do get the benefit that it's a common part right but yeah our goal is to get it to to get it to one well one of the things that uh one of the things that we were hoping to see was something that would be changing this around um quickly so it sounds like you're dumping one of the bottles dumping one of the pumps so right off the bat that's weight and cost taking some efficiencies as well with the valves right and if there's some way of um maybe turning this into a manifold uh that's kind of like where if i was in your shoes i would i would be really looking hard at i want to i want a chunk of aluminum that's got a very very little in the way of hosing and what not because pulling this apart or putting it together on the line is a bugger i uh um i uh i can tell you we had we had her more than our fair share of uh issues just trying to disassemble and usually disassemble is faster and easier than assembly especially with these pinch clips yeah so and we do we have a lot of a lot of it is done at our supplier we have 18 uh end item part numbers right that the the plant has to to deal with five because we have an extra loop right we do have an extra loop in our system versus what some of the competitors have that can go back back and forth and heat more to the the cabin or to the battery right so we so that is a little bit of a difference that we that we launched with as well well like i say um this and that have a lot of opportunity for uh for cost and weight reduction and that's only going to be good for ford that's right that's right and like i said we're always into continuous improvement in efficiencies we do a lot of benchmark um you know we do a lot of internal and we are using some external suppliers to to kind of compare to rev against a couple of other evs well good um are we we've got a few things few other things i wanted to talk about okay you have anything else on the thermal system before we move on or uh i think i'm good all right all right we can hop over here just wanted to go through a few yeah a few numbers comparisons of where the maki sits in the in the landscape today of evs so we you know we always look at numbers we're we're engineers everybody everybody likes numbers so we tore down the maki select so that's up at the top in bold and i also put in the premium extended range that you offer both of them all wheel drive compared to the all-wheel drive vehicles that the the competitors are out there in the same same uh same market so from a cost standpoint what we tore down the select is really it's on the lower end which is you know it's not it's not a cheap vehicle by any stretch but it's a lower cost ev performs pretty well from a efficiency standpoint it's there's a there's kind of as we look over here where tesla's way out ahead of everybody else at 125. then he gets into a ford volkswagen pole star kind of a group in the middle is uh is where it's at right now and then there was a couple of europeans the audi the volvo and the jaguar that were in the 70s and not doing real well at all than that like saying you said we don't don't really haven't really had interest in these they're not they're not an efficient vehicle but when you were in the design process what were kind of the the goals that you were looking for from a from a range standpoint from an efficiency standpoint um what were the the targets there yeah i could just tell you what we are where we're at now right um that's probably the best we know it's the number one concern it's the first question i get what's the range on your vehicle right so as people transition right it's critical to them for range so for us these are the numbers that were we're at but we have actions planned right it's year over year improvement so we'll we'll go and get additional range improvements actions coming in for 22. we have more coming in for 23 and more coming in for 24. so we're constantly working that right we know we have to get some weight out um to better those but better those numbers um and take other actions like better you know battery efficiency numbers right um and so it's on the forefront right because we know how critical it is to our customer all right well this is where this is where we uh kind of um we're continuously trying to get people to understand that battery size has nothing to do with range right um and quite frankly the extra uh almost 200 pounds that you've got here between you and each other and tesla that that's something that's got to get you know addressed but the other thing is um it's not just it's not just batteries and it's not just weight it's the efficiency that you can move things around and and that's what tesla is doing so remarkably well right the the control modules in one that they've got are are really uh really efficient so that's why i'd like to see uh maybe in in the near future um if these guys are getting 326 and you're getting 270 at a bigger with a bigger battery there's got to be something that you can do to make that all happen yeah yeah so like i said uh we we have actions coming that number's going to grow um and but it it will be in the next you know this year we have actions and next year we have actions that we're we're targeting to get to that three that 300 level so that will be every model year there's going to be some some updates coming out with it not a traditional mid-cycle action for these big changes and it's learning for us too right because you know what what you have to do from epa certification is different on the eds than what we've been through yeah you know with the gas engines so but yeah that that that is our priority because we know how critical it is to the customer okay so um i have uh another little question actually it's a huge question it's the elephant in the room how much market share do you think you're going to lose to the chinese when they start importing oh i i don't know i can only control what what we have out there right and i know our customer the customer loves this vehicle and we just have to keep making the vehicle great right and keep them happy we have 70 percent new customers to ford buying this vehicle so we we have to make our products better you know we have to launch strong and then all of our modules are becoming over there update capable so a lot of the actions we can bring in new features we can to make that the vehicle better than you know when they when they bought it we can put new features available to the customer and then also fix things right if we we encounter some conditions in that so i'm about we had to make this product better and and build on it right and it will it will you know stand for itself against against those competitors well if you've got 70 percent new customers that means somebody else lost who was it do you know yeah i don't i don't know all i i don't know who but we are getting a lot of conversions from you know some of the key ev oems okay i'm going to try this in a different way all right so let's take this guy out of the equation okay take him out what do you think of this versus that versus this versus that versus this and we didn't even put gm up because the bulk doesn't really it doesn't work yeah so uh where do you think your new new who's who's that who's the next big competitor after those guys oh that's i mean we're watching them all right kia is coming out right and they've done some really great things on their gas products and we're getting one right so you know we're watching them we're watching them all right um toyota is going to be coming out as well so yeah i'm hearing i'm hearing so we oh okay so uh and that and and i just heard that from uh i was at a conference a couple weeks ago and somebody was mentioning that so we we were told that they're going back trying to get the government to change back to trump's rules so it's very interesting because you know i i haven't been on a product you know too much at ford where you're not they're not right there all the time right you're like well what are they doing and and i made that statement and and and an individual was saying well kind of watch they have something in the work so i think you got to watch them all right and learn and learn from them all right the ones that frighten me um aren't on that list well pole star is because that's really a g car but uh but let's move over here up here this is um this is a little chart that's showing who's doing what let me go over here because these guys don't like to take a picture of the back of my head but this is what's kind of going on in china and you can see that these numbers are astronomical uh year-to-date numbers this is good to july so this is the second half or first half of the year and you can see who's who's up here i mean and toyota right now is up there but yeah this is this is uh this may change pretty dramatically um i don't know if you saw the little video that we did and i said that my speech was preempted by a little uh a little blurb by chairman she so in china and he said you guys got to stand on your own you guys got to learn how to export and on and on so i'm thinking that this is maybe a reflection of what's going to happen around here this a lot of car companies i mean we have uh we have three here in the u.s and uh and a few imports but nothing nothing like the and by the way everybody is in that market right this one this one here this is only for evs hevs and uh peds and um but if we had the whole list it's a it's like 380 car companies that are eager to get into new markets this is something that i think uh i would if i was at four if i hit the job that i had before at finance this would be scaring the daylights out of me yeah we've done a lot of benchmarking just my old job right i know we've had you know the chain on um the great wall so we've uh i'm trying to see some of the other ones that we've had but we we did a lot of benchmarking of those vehicles last year yeah so and just you know learning what we can um these guys are these guys are really aggressive and like i said these numbers are pretty astronomical and over there i i where is four 23 oh 23. okay so um um that's a you you should be a lot higher you should at least beat renault maybe anyways uh so at the end of the day this um this is going to be a challenging market and efficiency and loyalty and everything like that that's going to be uh something you can um you're going to hope for but brand loyalty lately with what we've seen from uh from our little investigations you know kids basically the guys that are going to be buying the cars in five years um they absolutely flat out do not like the idea of buying any gm product or ford product or chrysler product or bmw product even because they want to have nothing but an ev they want to save the planet they get it every day and we get it yeah it's all i mean and you see it in here right i mean you see it in you know making this green zero emissions you know this was all about sustainability in this vehicle as well right we use a lot of recycled materials you know no animal pro you know products in this vehicle that's what the customer those are those are the the interest in what people want to you know they're it's their mantra it's their beliefs right so um again started here and you're gonna see four just kind of build on it well that's uh sounds like uh maybe a good uh a good ending uh to start uh to finish off with um we're also gonna be uh um gonna be taking a ride on the uh uh on the new adas system from ford so uh stay tuned but for right now again donna thank you very much thank you thanks for inviting me i love it and hopefully we'll come back i'd love to do the body structure as well we want to do the body structure this was uh this was going to be kind of like about 10 or 15 minutes just on that so so anyway uh thanks again thanks ben thanks film crew thank you everybody and uh keep tipping those uh those uh cashiers um things are starting to rise again so um they're uh they're risking uh a lot for you to buy a can of beans so anyways thanks very much for watching and uh cory's standing over there again so um click subscribe if you haven't subscribed and make uh make corey happy alright say hi bye [Music] you

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Length: 38min 32sec (2312 seconds)

Published: Fri Aug 20 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/Repentant_Revenant]

I was pleasantly surprised by how willing Ford was to subject themselves to criticism and take feedback. There were also a number of really positive things that Munro remarked on, including some things that Ford was doing better than Tesla. He said that the Mach E was his second favorite car after the Model Y, which is insanely high praise.

There were some big problems that Munro pointed out, which Ford seemed to be aware of and had plans to address in 2022, 2023, and beyond.

The problem is that Tesla also has plans for the coming years. We know they’ll be implementing new technology, increasing in scale, increasing in performance, and decreasing cost dramatically. They’re really going to benefit from economies of scale once all the Gigafactories are online, and they’ll be manufacturing 4680 structural batteries, fully casted bodies, etc.

All in all, I’m more confident in Ford not going bankrupt after watching this video. But they’d really need to pick up the pace if they want to be a major player, and even then there’s not much comparison with Tesla. As others noted, the fact that Tesla is vertically integrated and Ford is not is going to be a massive factor. And AI day yesterday really cemented the difference between the two companies. Ford is just an auto maker. Tesla is not.

[u/Available-Pin-2744]

Tesla is at least a decade ahead

[u/stevehockey4]

An absolute must watch. Gives a great idea of how OEM's are thinking and how far ahead Tesla truly is.

[u/Baoty]

I feel like she uses so many words but says so little of substance. Had enough at the 10min mark..

[u/deugeu]

someone give a TL;DR I can't watch this nonsense

[u/Available-Pin-2744]

2ndly, ford is good to take feedback but they won't improve much because of oem. If they really wanna improve they should learn tesla DIY. But the problem is they don't have the manpower and tech. I have a Ford , that mf breakdownssss , a lot

[u/lowspeed]

33:39 mark shows you why Ford is not trying hard enough. She couldn't answer a pretty basic question, that every engineer working on the car should know.