M80A1 EPR & M61 AP 308 vs Russian GOST IV Armor

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thank you for tuning into an episode of in range you may notice that ian is holding a esoteric and rare piece of Russian armor plate this is a ghost for when I acquired the original ghost for plate I got two of them because if you can buy one why not buy two this one's had a whoopsie yeah that one about hit with multiple rounds of m855a1 here here and here none of which penetrated the armor if you haven't seen the video we've already done that so check that out but we proved that m855a1 the five five six round isn't gonna make it to ghost for that super armored killing new round yeah well you know I've we heard people in the comments think it's not specifically an AP round it's really supposed to replace m855 which isn't necessarily rifle play rated stuff but it is a penetrator tungsten core at a very high velocity and we wanted to see what it would do it turns out it didn't make it through so a lot of the comments were like well what about 3-way but it does break your gun it can but then the quints answer was what about three late right an ER is now an m-80 a one it's the same thing tungsten core penetrator core copper bullet this is coming out of this gun 16 inch barrel this is a Robinson Arms X erm chrono this already this stuff's coming out of this gun at twenty nine fifty oh crap 103d green bullet with a tungsten penetrator at almost three thousand feet per second that's spicy so if ma five five eighty one didn't make it through you know top tier Russian armor will the 308 equivalent that's a very interesting question that's the question we're gonna pose today I'll have to go look that up on the in tubes and see if I can find anyone oh right we're trying it we're gonna shoot it so we've got this plate we're gonna put it up against the sandbag because you don't want to shoot a plate without some support the sandbag represents a human body or just something behind it and because that would you know inappropriately displace the force if it didn't have something behind it and we're gonna put a round on this on high-speed and we're gonna find out if that mata 1e PR round is lives up to the hype all right here we go one round of mata one on a ghost four plate ready you I see bits of jacket you ready for the big reveal let's see it nope intact didn't make it did not go through not even a deformation pattern really hard to say cuz we got this textured writing in there but quite hurt although honestly I don't know that you won't even hurt if it didn't really deform yeah alright well now we know that top-tier Russian armor still defeats mata 1 why don't we go straight to 308 black tip alright mata 1 did not make it through the ghost 4 plate so now we've got 308 black tip this is true ap let's see what this does has less recoil I can tell you that let's go see what happened to the plate you the hole actually looks a little smaller ready Oh nope yep oh it did something came out no it did well black tip AP AP so what happened here if you zoom in on this what we have is like a rubberized small protective coating and so that's kind of reformed itself it's think of it as like temporary cavity like a self sealing gas tank exactly but you can see that something came through there all the way and you can see in the sandbag that there's a hole yep and there's what's interesting is there's not just a hole from the actual penetrator core of the round but there's there shrapnel damage going in there too it turns out that mata 1 did not make it through and it did turn out that black tip true ap did make it through yeah turns out AP is AP it is AP oh and apparently the ghost for plate is not sufficient to resist black tip AP so I wish I could find the little core in our sandbag but that's they have not been able to that's an Easter egg hunt of the greatest proposition yeah however so it's interesting to note that this new round you know it was designed specifically for barrier penetration better terminal ballistics which is what m855a1 was to but it is not really truly a armor-piercing round know which kind of makes me wonder what is the point and I'll be fair on this I haven't I can't say I've done enough like in depth talking to people who are involved with it find out like what was the specific intended purpose of Mata 1 I I can get better barrier predator benefit I can get better barrier penetration on the five five six like that makes sense yeah but why that that mata 1 is higher pressure clearly yes the velocity coming out of there 2950 that like which is how they did this with 855 a1 is you up the pressure to the point that it's not unsafe but is absolutely going to accelerate wear and tear on the gun and bullet construction obviously yes yes but the only way that you can get that bullet going is with more pressures true why would you want to do that when you can use standard armor-piercing 308 well being around for a long time already I'm gonna postulate and I might be wrong and I'm willing to hear the comments but here's what I think when it comes to m855a1 you definitely want to increase Baer penetration with five five six but retain the wounding capabilities sure we know that m855 did increase the barrier penetration over m193 but lost a lot of its wounding capabilities that 193 brought to the table with velocity right m855a1 actually is a better barrier penetrator than m855 but retains a lot if not better than wounding apart the possibilities of m193 at lower velocities because of the bullet construction the copper they tend to separate it does other things that's another discussion but you have essentially with m855a1 increased barrier penetration retained wounding capabilities but you're not ap that's what I'm saying five five sixes that one makes no no I said so let's go on to ya 308 3-way it's pretty much a killer pinball there doesn't appear to be a whole lot of documented problem with terminal ballistics on standard m80 ball right exactly and ap works so this is something between the two it's neither fish nor fowl right it's a higher pressure higher velocity round that probably puts wear and tear on the gun will have absolutely probably better wounding capabilities than to standard ball but standard ball is already so good and ap does this maybe vehicle maybe vehicular enter anti vehicular but then why not you safe I just want ap I don't know I don't know maybe when you made one you make the other maybe it's an interesting outstanding question to my mind after looking at this like it's kind of killed any of my interest in in trying to source Mata one there's probably a reason that doesn't come clear in just a video against one piece of armor plate I hope so yeah considering the amount of money that surely has gone into its development I hope there's a good reason I will see one other thing it's a green route okay let me lead prime lead-free primer let me project off honestly that could be given restrictions on military training and range juice that could be a rationale entirely that can stand on its own is a legitimate rationale at this point not to mention led contamination and journal even in a battlefield and I know people gonna go wait but it's a battlefield yes it is but contaminations contamination like when use depleted-uranium rounds you're leaving behind depleted uranium leaving the lid behinds a thing i've seen in the comments people say stuff like well lead comes out of the ground let's just shoot it back in but when I say that I'm like well uranium comes out of the ground let me sprinkle it around your house like I'm not saying I'm not saying for against but there is a there with lead so okay other than that it is not an AP defeating round it does not defeat an armor plate nope at least not this armor plate but good old-fashioned ap does yeah it sure does well hopefully you enjoyed watching this kind of content that ghosts war plate was not cheap not at all so its patreon supporters that made that possible that purchased both 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Channel: InRangeTV
Views: 142,764
Rating: 4.9556499 out of 5
Keywords: M80A1, M855a1, M61, 308, 7.62 NATO, Robinson Arms XCR-M, XCR, GOST, GOST IV, body armor, rifle plates, inrange, inrangetv, forgotten weapons, gun jesus
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Length: 9min 12sec (552 seconds)
Published: Fri Aug 16 2019
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