Louis Theroux Attacks the Shark While Eating Spicy Wings | Hot Ones

is that the spiciest thing you've ever eaten oh yeah that's not nice why are you doing this to [Music] me hey what's going on everybody for first we Feast I'm Sean Evans and you're watching hot ones it's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings and today we're joined by Lou theu he's a baft award-winning documentarian and journalist who for decades has immersed himself in some of the most dangerous complicated and controversial aspects of The Human Experience in this he has a series of six interviews with well-known personalities coming to the BBC Lou THU welcome to the show thank you for having me how are you around spicy food before we get started I'd like to think I'm pretty good uh but that feels like I'm setting myself up to fail if I say that so I want to play things down and say average here we [Music] go nice if I was eating purely for pleasure that's pretty good I'm actually now I'm thinking about it I'm like I probably say that's fine I wouldn't want to go much over that and yet here we are so one of the unique things about your upcoming interview series is that you're meeting your guests where they are in their life you know having a sit down conversation with champion boxer Anthony Joshua immediately following a fight yeah as someone with a studio show I'm curious what do you think is gained by setting the interviews and the natural habitat of your guests okay good question I think um you know my background is documentary Making and um I started out working for documentary filmmaker called Michael Moore and he famously made a a movie called Roger and me and he came out of a ver film making tradition where you sort of fly on the wall right and you just sort of observe people in their natural habitat almost a little bit like an anthropologist would like studying a tribe or something and you just see people when they're not on right they're not performing and the idea is that as the days go by you see a more natural presentation you see someone uh coming across as themselves as opposed to sort of a curated version there's both the the behind the scenes component of you know Anthony Joshua in the dressing room but there's also a master interview component where you sort of see them in a more composed setting the garlic I like there's something reassuring about the color but you seem to be into it you must like the sauce fine I'm hungry I know me too I like it without thinking about it too hard is there a lifestyle or belief system outside of your own that you found yourself being most woed by when you spent so much time in the belly of it okay um I don't know why but my mind went to polyamory yeah you know what that is right yeah yeah you had the whipped cream like rubbed all over yeah consensual non- monogamy I I I you know I felt like I get it like when you start to analyze it uh in certain respects monogamy seems weirder you know especially if we live as we now you know we live hopefully to be 90 plus years old right all being well and now they're talking about maybe being I don't know if you're following these Tech Bros who are saying we're going to live to be 300 can you imagine being married to the same person for like 280 years um it feels like it would start you'd start craving something else on the menu figuratively speaking so it all made sense to you so there was so I sort of thought yeah that that I except for the sexual jealousy part which I think would make my head [Music] explode tasty that's the best you got come on I'll remember you said that I like Thai food mhm and a jungle Curry that they do at a restaurant in Los Angeles it became a a ritual for a while once a year and then the third year I was like why are we doing this to ourselves right you know what I mean like being married for 110 years or something you know yeah a very great B lasted but we got to go our separate ways so I've heard you discuss the influence of being a dual citizen of Britain the US and the impact that it's had on your work what superpowers do you think that grants you working on either side of the pond I think we're not seeing it threatening you know when I arrive I could go up to Idaho in fact I have gone up to Idaho Mountain Mike to meet a militia man who sort of thinks that the federal government is going to is satanic and is going to come and invade and take his guns away and and he's like uh well hello there you know well so you've come all the way from across the pond you know and it's sort of this friendly like I've arrived like a kind of visit visiting dignitary you know this sort of imposing forbidding figure is softened towards me that makes sense to me it's beautiful Los centes this says first we Feast on it which suggests it might be one of your ones yeah story checks out Yeah we actually do make this one but you know what Lou if you don't like it you can let me know it's disgusting yeah it's okay it tastes very nice mhm a little bit hotter than the last one but not overwhelming for you yeah what do you think pretty good right very good I save very good it's like me reviewing one of my own programs yeah right exactly 10 out of 10 I like the skinny guy with the glasses I want to see more of him from where you sit I'm curious what's your take on the current landscape of documentaries because on one hand there seem to be more made now than ever before but there is this sort of palpable shift towards you know true crime documentaries or documentaries about celebrities that are produced and commissioned by the celebrity mhm ethically it's more complicated because in some cases you have big stars executing their own programs um or you know producing them with their own production companies you have payoffs or pay payments to dubious characters but the thing is is if I'm enjoying what I'm watching I'm a happy man yeah what does it matter you know what I mean mhm and I I get that where does it all lead and I think all those conversations need to be had like you know like if you don't want to be incentivizing a criminal to do crime so that they can then I just kill one more person I'll get my Netflix deal that was in bad taste wasn't it no no nothing anything goes on this show you blame it on the wings Blame It On the Wings Lou it's they're creeping up a bit on me you know what I mean I'm getting an after blast there's a cumulative effect too going here yeah there's a it's a sort of a low drone of um Tong tongue tongue activity warmth growing but so of the recent stream kind of ones like wild wild country the Jinx last dance this new Beckham one yeah Tinder swindler yeah those are all kind of bangers they're all kind of awesome and you're like give me more Cliffhanger rack it up next one you know what I mean that makes sense to me Lou are you ready to move on to the halfway point yeah I might need a little sip of what did you suggest like the milk yeah I think the milk is probably the best for you I'm not like you know I'm not having trouble didn't it sound like I'm in trouble I'm not just need [Music] a excuse me you can't always tell right off the bat can you don't overthink you're going back in in that you it is hot but you're you feel good about it thought I I thought I was supposed to have more than one bite no no I respect it I'm going right with you yeah it's quite hot that is quite hot mhm yeah yeah they're not lying can feel it on my lips yeah the show is like really St that's only not even halfway it is halfway you are exactly halfway well five and five yeah we are now at at the exact halfway point and you're doing great you're doing great is someone who clearly sees the value in talking to subjects with viewpoints that are different than your own what's your take on the growing backlash against platforming certain ideas or people oh my God I have to I I don't an intelligent and kind of complex question while having my that's the show the show yeah that's the show uh good question oh jeez um platforming is uh something that you should be aware of and um here's the thing there's a difference between giving someone a platform I a megaphone you know is is an audience 10 million people have at it say what you like and on that's on one hand and on the other hand you asking questions you you are attempt to impose a shape to what what takes place you know the good journalism is not necessarily like a platform and and and I think by the way like that is that is a I made a joke about but that's a good question and um something that I need to be conscious of like over the years I've made programs about neo-nazis um relig Cults you know to a great extent I think due to the internet and social media lone actors like people who would have been like Fringe voices guys who would have been out in a log cabin somewhere in in a wood somewhere um maybe kind of like writing little newsletters you know and and and sending them out in brown paper bags now those guys have um or maybe shortwave radio but now those people have uh social media accounts and and they have real uh they have real reach but I think that doesn't mean don't don't so they have power but I don't think that means don't don't speak to them I think it means speak it's in a way it's all the more important to speak to them but um with a sort of sense of intelligence and accountability is a ghost is it a reference to a ghost pepper it is actually how how far in are you going on this one I'm going as far as you go my my mouth is so scorched from the previous one it's hard to tell is it just keeping the vibe going or you know what I mean yeah I think this one has kind of a complicated flavor profile you know where I kind of catch that whiskey and then it leaves behind that ghost pepper Trail like right now my throat's pretty scratchy yeah I we're definitely up above the tree line I'm continuing the the mountaineering metaphor and we're heading into the what's the called the death zone yeah that's right marching right into the death zone here we're going into the death zone I know I know but together we got this we got this L I got a little on my yeah back of the throat good I I might leave that one there perfect nice is someone who's made documentaries for decades do you find that it's easier to get subjects to comply in this social media age where everything is always about such self-promotion uh I do but I don't know if it's for the reason the reason that you're suggesting I mean I think excuse me little bit ghost pepper coming up here we go I think um what's happened is I have more visibility now and also people in general have less anonymity and so anyone I approach can quite easily sort of Google me search me up look at my socials and in general sorry nose slightly that's the show that's it okay excuse me sorry for that oh at the risk of kind of bigging myself up I'm an award-winning I think you mentioned in your intro that I have three bafs I try not to make too much in [Music] that so far nothing too troubling right so this one I think is kind of a chill number seven we go out with the old and with the new time it's kind of like an album like track Seven's an instrumental yeah yeah right right you don't want to overlook it too to much cuz it does have kind of some late life to it oh yeah but it's a good Jam it's just um it's just not a single you know yeah yeah yeah I'm with you on that from undergoing lipo suction surgery to stripping down in your underwear to have whipped cream spread all over you at the uh polyamorous sensual dinner what do you think's the most you've ever suffered for your art thank you for actually watching some programs or someone watch something I like your work I like I'm a fan of your work Lou thank you man um in terms of suffering there's different kinds of suffering uh there's acute embarrassment I've had that a few times once stripping off for a porn uh for to get basically on the books of a porn agent it was called Jim South this was in the late '90s you had you had the black couch audition yeah I basically it wasn't really a casting couch it was more of a stand naked and just wiggle it around you were supposed to have wood for the um for the it wasn't you know in order like they basic they had these books of of male talent in which the male Talent is standing there and really to be fully true to life you should be in a state of arousal right because the director who comes in to book the talent the male Talent wants to see what kind of wood you're working with naturally but I'm like that's you know I have limits it's a bridge too far it is a bridge too far so I'm like I I think it'd be kind of funny to see me naked having my PO Polaroid taken for the porn agent I'm not going to uh get the wood they can basically go with the the the uh the non try to find them sa just the the natural the Natural State Natural State the wood is in its natural state but it was like yeah so like moments like that yeah right part of the job I guess that is that is when you put yourself in these worlds you know yeah and you know what speaking of maybe not being safe putting yourself in a world here you are in my world yes and next sauce is the bomb Beyond Insanity okay they clue may be in the name Beyond Insanity yeah yeah they they kind of give it away okay here cheers ready Down the [Music] Hatch something's happening oh wow is that the spiciest thing you've ever eaten oh yeah that's not nice why are you doing this to me just it has to be this way do are these do we have to be nice about the sauce I don't even don't you can say whatever want I don't even like the flavor no it's awful you can say whatever you want it just tastes like uh poison it has like a metal taste to it almost oh that's not nice oh that's bad yeah it's building I'm in trouble right and there's more milk we do have some extra milk here for you and the key here is there is like a a tight walk where you don't want to drink too much milk really yeah yeah yeah oh does this help I think what you're finding is that nothing actually helps you know like once you're in this thing there's nothing that truly saves you you know is is it like um you know oh I'm crying is it like uh oh it's just oh it's that thing where it just keeps going up yeah and you just got to it's just getting worse and worse yeah and when I thought you said like oh it gets you from I was like it's not too bad but remember early on when you were like very that's all you got you know like uh it's happened to that gu I know I know this it's an ego death every time on this show my tongue feels like a stranger you're right yeah for an object in there yeah uh it's like it's glowing it's like it's playing music but it's you know what I think it's getting stronger all right stepping out of this studio stronger Lou pain is weakness leaving the body body right I played you know High School football in America you get you picked up on all those is that one of the things I saw that once for like a bodybuilding convention and I was like I like that what if anything did the explosion of your my money don't jiggle jiggle track what did it teach you if anything thing about virality on the internet um almost nothing yeah right because I I didn't understand it then and I still don't really understand it I just know that um one minute I had uh just you know done an interview with Amelia de molenberg was a rep written with a couple of guys in Jackson Mississippi for an episode of Weird Weekends the rap's pretty good I think as a sort of novelty rap but it still doesn't really really explain why it caught on and and and naturally as much of as I've said oh wow it's just a brilliant thing and it was once in a lifetime there's a little voice saying hey do it again you know what about a Christmas hit like my my sleigh bells don't jingle jingle do you know what I mean like I can hear it now and and and what you know what would be wrong with that it would make me I'd be I'd have that beautiful relevance all over again and then Good Sense prevails and I'm like don't be that guy my wife said early on don't touch it don't chase it let it be good advice so uh I've by and large done that other than re-recording a remix and doing a video and promoting [Laughter] it I took a big a bite I saw that did you I'll join you like like I might have been shot you know that they say when you're bit by a shark you know what it feels like you don't maybe you don't feel it at first right a tug it's a tug apparently did you know and it's taking your leg off and then you look down and like that's weird there's blood in the water and then it's that weird I'm going in circles yeah and there's a shark with a leg you start to connect the dots and then maybe you get some pain and after that I think it gets worse yeah do you get my metaphor I think I know what happened I'm immune because of that cuz that one because pain was weakness leaving the body and you entered this next sauce a stronger Louis that's what happened I did I had to die in order to be reborn yeah that's exactly what happened did they say that in high school football no but that would be awesome if a Coach did if he went like that deep do you have a Mount Rushmore of documentaries four films off the top of your head without overthinking it that you think are like the best foundational examples of technical excellence in the genre uh I would go uh Thin Blue Lon Errol Morris's would be would be in there I think non-fiction storytelling very pure it was one of the films that got me interested in documentary Making i' I'd probably have to shout out Roger and me because Michael Moore was something of a mentor to me and as a first person piece of Storytelling and using humor and taking a social issue in a quirky way oh you know exit through the gift shop it's bank's film and I just thought it was um he's kind of in it but not in it and it's about street art it's about self-promotion it's a great watch and then the last one I would say maybe is the act of killing which is by Joshua Oppenheimer and a very heavy subject a set of atrocities in Indonesia in which thousands of people were killed Oppenheimer approaches them as almost as if they are to be celebrated and gets them to reenact what they did because they're proud they proud of they're proud of these crimes and in the course of making so he's making a movie within a movie and in the course of following them doing the that doing sort of these reenact ments they start to get some insight into what they did it's very heavy but very very powerful all right Lou nice [Laughter] segue no no come on if you're doing it there we go I've put quite a lot on yeah that's a little wild too much possibly yeah there we go cheers Lou what a ride we're in the death zone this Summit let's get to the summit see you on the other side now yeah nothing fun about it but the good news it looks you have a contemplative look on your face you know what I think just happened what I attacked the shark you I think I just killed the shark I think you did too are you okay yes I'm fine you need help buddy if you're okay I'm okay that's all the strength that's all the strength that I need and the good news is Lou the wings of death they're behind us thank you to close things out yeah you know as an occupation you've entered all of these worlds some of them unseen some of them outcasted some of them weird and bizarre and then you've been doing it for so long in this everchanging time what do you see as the importance of empathy in an increasingly fractured world I love that question I'm getting more heat now I might is there like maybe I've got a time delay are you getting more now yeah that's I I knew I took what I did is I inhaled and so I caught it all back a throat so then I knew and then I know it grows and has that time bomb thing so I knew I kind of crashed right into the brick wall here at the end but still have my feet I'm fine so to take that step of reaching out and attempting to see things uh I think it's crucial I I honestly take the approach in my films and this is more by Instinct than design that I assume a level of good faith I assume that people out there for the most part are doing the best they can like very very few people get up in the morning thinking how can I [ __ ] things up how can I be a bad person the things that people do that do end up being destructive either it's just selfishness which is you know very human or it's idealism run a mck right it's this feeling of being locked into a sense of your own virtue that means that you are you're failing to see the bigger picture and you're kind of being programmatic and and actually using people as roadkill on your own journey of kind of idealism does that make any kind of sense like you think about atrocities that are committed in the name of Communism or fascism or ECOT terrorism whatever it may be those are people attempting to usher in a Golden Dawn but nevertheless in many cases killing hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands or millions of people right um so that's you know the empathy is sort of um I think the Bedrock to to to to to sort of preventing that and attempting to not lose sight of the greater Humanity I don't know I feel like I maybe got a bit grandiose there for a second but but that's you know that's how I feel INF fueled by the wings Lou taking them on yeah killing the shark and living to tell the tale and now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you this camera this camera this camera let the people know what you have going on in your life uh uh I have a series on BBC series of interviews that is coming up depending on when you're watching this I have loads of I have 25 years of documentaries that are out there I'm really proud of my documentaries have made 50 6070 on all kinds of subjects in prisons in the adult industry about religious groups Cults whatnot and uh I think they're all pretty good I agree with you I agree with you that was nice man you had a good time yeah I'm glad we peaked with that one and then the last two we were kind of not coasting out of it but it felt um like a story arc yeah yeah it felt like okay here we are and actually um this is this is dealable with it was nice to see you suffering a bit hey what's going on hot ones fans this is Sean Evans with an announcement truth or dab the game now has a brand new refresh Edition that's right if you already had the original truth or dab game you can now get even more hotter questions with the refresh Edition the game is simple answer deeply personal and potentially awkward questions or face the Wrath of the last app that's right both additions of the game feature a mini bottle of the last dab hot sauce check out the description below to see where you can pick up hot ones truth or dab the game or visit wildertools [Music]

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Published: Thu Nov 09 2023